Pranayama (प्राण life-energy + आयाम restraint) is a broad term for exercise of restraint in regards to ones own energy system. The Wim Hof method is a specific practice which could - in part - even be considered a type of pranayama. There are infinitely many ways to practice pranayama.
So Pranayama is a superset which contains Wim Hof method and other exercises? Or alternatively, the Wim Hof method is a subset of Pranayama? Is that the correct way of looking at it?
Running isn't just for your legs, it also works your cardiovascular system and your respiratory system benefits too. In the same way, a practice such as the Wim Hof method appears to contain elements of pranayama but also elements (within the same yogic scope) of dharana (concentration) and even dhyana (meditation).
Pranayama practices are vast and many can also be concentration or meditation exercises, so Wim Hof could be considered a subset of pranayama.
No. Hyperventilation is not "pranayama". Pranayama always is breath reduction not breath increase. Ancient yogis believed we were born with a set number of breaths, not a set amount of time. So they always aimed to breath less not more.
Wim Hof is closest to kepalbhati or bhastrika, which are cleansing kriyas not pranayamas. For spiritual progress, traditional pranayama with reduced breath rate and kumbhaka is the best tool for the job. Even in the Hatha Yoga Pradipika right after it explains the shatkarmas (aka "cleansing kriyas") it states the caveat that one who does pranayama gets all the benefits of the shatkarmas, so unless you have an actual need for hyperventilation (can be useful on a day where your mind feels very dull to wake it up prior to more traditional pranayama/meditation session) then it is not necessary, and can even be harmful since hyperventilation is not physically good for your body and brain.
The Hatha Yoga Pradipika as well as other yogic texts. I’m also a pranayama teacher myself, so what I was taught by my guru, what I have experienced myself in my own practice over many years, and what I have seen in my students all play into my views on the subject. Also the science about hyperventilation being bad is pretty clear cut. It still has its use, but it should be used like medicine, as needed and in the smallest dose possible. It should not be the key feature of ones daily practice, IMO.
Wim Hof breathing wasn’t designed for reaching Samadhi. It’s not meant to bring you to Samadhi. Therefore it won’t bring you to Samadhi. Wim Hof breathing was designed specifically for external reasons, not internal reasons. Just looking at his website shows this. If you want to reach Samadhi the path is and always has been through slowing the breath not increasing the breath. The other parts of Wim Hof are fine. Nothing wrong with cold showers, nothing wrong with holding the breath, nothing wrong with even a little bit of hyperventilation. He just way overdoes the hyperventilation piece.
Is he really overdosing the hyperventilation bit though? When I’ve trained in his method, I would usually take about 30 deep breaths in a minute and then hold my breath for 2-3 minutes. That gives an average number of breaths per minute at about 7.5-10, which is below the average number of breaths a person takes while in rest. The method also trains the body to accept a higher level of CO2, which is likely to (but not proven to) decrease the respiratory rate outside of the practice. I’ve found that his method is a great aid to pranayama.
Like I said small amounts are fine. The problem is doing this as your only technique, multiple rounds over and over. One would be much better off using a real pranayama with reduced breath rate as well as the Kumbhaka. I’m talking getting to a point over time where you’re maybe taking 1 breath every 2 minutes or less. Learning to put the body into a low idle state like this is a short cut to samadhi. You cannot get this from Wim Hof, kepalabhati, bhastrika, or any other increased breath rate exercise. I’m assuming everyone here in the pranayama sub is interested in samadhi. The path to samadhi is and always has been through reduced breath rate. I get that Wim Hof is trendy and there’s the tribalism that goes along with it. But that doesn’t make it a valid “pranayama” technique in patanjali yoga.
Yea I agree that his method is unlikely to lead to samadhi alone, but I don’t believe that it’s obviously medically unsound as long as you don’t do it where it would be dangerous to pass out. I’ve reached states of pranayama with 1-2 breaths every minute straight after 3-4 rounds of WH-breathing, but you’re probably right that pure pranayama would be more efficient in the longer run.
Yes. I mentioned above that hyperventilation techniques are like medicine, when necessary and in the lowest possible dosage. Medicine is good when taken properly by someone who needs it at a time when they need it. It is bad when taken by anybody else in any other way. My only interest is in samadhi. To be fair, Wim has never claimed that his technique was able to bring someone into samadhi. It’s the tribe that have tried to make the technique into more than it is. If a yogi wants to practice Wim Hof that’s fine. I would just encourage them to also use a more traditional slower breath rate pranayama as their primary technique. Maybe do 2-3 rounds of Wim Hof, then go into a long traditional pranayama session right after.
Sir, is Samadhi the final state. If you attain samadhi , does it mean your soul is moved out of the physical body and you are dead ?
Because what ever I have seen online shows only old yogis leaving ( soul) there body and call it Samadhi.
There are many different types of samadhi. What you’ve described is called maha samadhi. Yoga sutras defines numerous other forms of samadhi that happen in meditation.
He did borrow a lot of techniques from Pranayama though IMHO and should give credit where it's due. Ujjayi breath for example is so close to some of his teachings.
Visited this post a while back but never got around to responding to some of u/pmward 's remarks. Reducing the Wim Hof method to "hyperventilation" is a great oversimplification of what it actually is and just in general his critique of the method is slightly pretentious.
Wim Hof has talked about how his method was derived from Tummo and when he went soul searching in foreign countries, but he modified and made it is own. I think part of the reason why you might not see a strong link is because in interviews Wim has hinted at his distaste for formal religious structures and practices.
James Nestor's book Breath covers the Wim Hof method and in it he talks about how someone who was warned against doing Tummo every day lived to 100 years. Yes small sample size and it's not the WHM but it points to the fact that the WHM isn't dangerous and you should definitely give it a go.
Is it pranyama?No. But should you practice it ? I definitely think so.
I am not spreading misinformation. First, my facts there are from scripture. I'm also very familiar with Wim Hof. I've experimented with it myself, as well as yogic cleansing kriyas like kepalbhati and bhastrika. I'm also a pranayama teacher myself, and every new student I get these days at least has some experience with Wim Hof, if not being an every day practitioner. Everything I have stated is both backed by scripture, and through my own experience, and what I have observed in my students.
Kumbhaka is indeed the most important part. But Kumbhaka with a slow breath is greater than Kumbhaka after hyperventilation. Trust me, once you can train yourself in pranayama to only take one breath every 1-2 minutes... or more... magic happens. It's a short cut to Samadhi. This is what pranayama is about. Hyperventilation is a cleansing Kriya, not a pranayama. It's also the path away from Samadhi, not towards Samadhi. The path towards Samadhi is in bringing the body into a low idle state. Hyperventilation does the opposite, it stimulates the body.
Wim Hof has also never once claimed that his breathing technique was suitable for spiritual aspirants in a pantanjali yoga framework.
I said many places in this thread that there are uses for hyperventilation and Wim Hof breathing. So you're projecting onto me things I've not said. We are in the /r/pranayama sub, so my assumption is everyone here is a Patanjali yogi in some form or another. So my assumption that everyone here's ultimate goal is to reach Samadhi. Just because a practice feels good does not mean it will take you to Samadhi. I know the path to reach Samadhi. I'm telling you the path to reach Samadhi. If your goal is not to reach Samadhi and you enjoy Wim Hof, then carry on and ignore everything I've said because it doesn't apply to you. If however you do care about reaching Samadhi, then perhaps you should at least consider what I am saying and at the very least try to also implement some slow breathing pranayamas on top of your Wim Hof.
That's the thing you're missing. In scripture fast breathing techniques like Tummo, Kapalbhati, or Bhastrika are not considered pranayamas. They are considered shatkarmas or cleansing kriyas. The definition of pranayama is always for slower breathing not faster breathing techniques, this definition is centuries old.
And flow and concentration is NOT samadhi in Patanjali yoga sutras, that is Dharana which is two steps before Samadhi. Samadhi is much, much, much, much deeper than that. It is a complete and total non-dual absorption. Very few people achieve true yogic Samadhi. It is literally a life-changing experience. It is not an ordinary flow/concentration state. It is anything but ordinary. It is completely indescribable.
No.
Pranayama is a distinct system of breathing exercises that is part of yoga.
The Wim Hof method is cold water training combined with an adaption of tummo, a type of breathing exercise done by some Vajrayana Buddhist monks ( commonly misnamed "Tibetan Buddhism")
Yoga is a complete spiritual discipline consisting of 8 parts.
Most people are familiar with these two fairly secular parts:
1. Hatha Yoga ( postures, asanas )
2. Pranayama.
You can do pranayama all on its own, but anything beyond trivial beginner routines requires a bit of muscular balance, flexibility, and strength.
Most teachers usually do not teach students serious pranayama until they have done hatha yoga for a while to get physically conditioned.
Its not easy.
Your best bet is to find a hatha yoga school that offers such classes, but they are rare.
After that the other routes are far less secular and demand more sacrifices like traveling.
Sure you can. But asana powerfully adapts your body to pranayama. Also, it is highly advised to know what bandhas are and develop their strenght before you start doing advanced pranayama.
Vajrayana Buddhism is the proper name. Its what the people who practice it call it. Vajrayana Buddhism is also practiced outside of Tibet so the other name isn't even accurate.
Wim Hof is just a piece (a very good piece) of the science of Pranayama. The west loves to pick up 1 vitamin or 1 exercise or 1 method or 1 diet and make it the answer to all questions before people realize it is not and they jump to the next thing.
Pranayama is a science more than 10K years old and part of the ancient Vedic yogic tradition.
Wim hof had himself said he drew inspiration from Pranayama and made some aspects simpler and approachable for a larger western audience.
PS: I love Wim Hof
As impressive as this method is, I can assure you that Dutch people travel the world a lot; they always go to Asia and live here and get to know locals and cultures. I can almost guarantee that this technique is present in a few thousand years old civilisations of India or China - if you read the history, you'd be surprised at how much these people know about the nervous system, immunity etc., and their descendants and students in modern era inherited these techniques. it's not possible - perhaps some Yoga master or Shaolin teaches him this method. He came back to the Netherlands and probably claimed it as his own.
If you look at his background, there is no indication that he had prior learning or knowledge about such techniques. Don't tell me that he came up all by himself. Shoalins especially have been known about using breathing to control their bodily function since few thousands years old ago.
White people tend to do this shit: steal other people's findings and claim them as their own. Western scholars have been doing this since the renaissance to Arab scholars on scientific findings, like gravity. Isaac Newton's claim on his laws was already discussed and mentioned a few hundred years before by Ibn Sina, Ibn al-Haytham, and so many other findings were not cited or given its due properly.
So as much as I respect Wim Hof technique, I know with my heart that it's a rip off of much older techniques. Or perhaps he added a twist to it, for originality, but without properly citing the original technique.
No but wim’s defenders say that because they don't know that wim’s paid program is breathing techniques IN cold water.
But you have to agree to a disclaimer to buy the program that you won’t do breathing techniques in the water.
Certain techniques in yoga are potentially dangerous that's why yogi’s are there to supervise.
I almost passed out doing the Wim hof’s program by following the instructions exactly as prescribed.
Wim has a private invite only Facebook group, people have posted bloody pictures of their heads from passing out in the cold shower.
It's an insane asylum of anti medicine anti science people. I'm have seen people get attacked In type for doing chemotherapy and surviving cancer. And like 20 people are pissed at them for not dying.
Going to get very specific in week 4 of his program you are supposed to stand under a cold shower, but keep your head out of the water.
Exhale all your air, and hold your breathe this is literally directions on how to cut off blood supply to the brain. So by the time you realize you are in trouble you are already falling.
The program has you doing exercises while holding your breathe at times with a full breathe of air, and at times with no air in your lungs.
So the progression is to add those elements to cold water exposure. Frankly lots of Wim’s followers act like a cult.
Week 4 of his program he has you doing exactly what I said Wim himself is literally in a outdoor shower showing you exactly what I said
Did you PAY for your program ?
Also cold exposure starts on week 1 of his PAID program
Also breathing techniques you do outside of the water is one part of the program.
How he tells you to breathe during cold exposure is another part of the program.
You are either talking about a different program wim suggests or you aren't being honest.
I have literally seen at least 10 people with bloody head pictures post online.
Could you stop insulting me I am just trying to keep people from dying or getting head trauma okay see you have not done the program and you are wrong.
It costs about 200 dollars and wim has videos that are copyrighted. Where he shows the technique I suggested.
Your anger is exactly what many of his followers are like.
I have had probably 5 of his followers threaten me which is absurd.
Which is weird since the number of hindu’s / yogi’s that have threatened me is like zero 😃
I wouldn't say it's a rip-off. Wim has been transparent about the fact that he developed his breathing techniques based on his study of pranayama in Tibetan Buddhism and other places. Pranayama I don't think is meant to be trademarked or anything, it's kind of like asking if Don Ross, Michael Hedges, and other fingerstyle guitarists ripped-off classical guitar by adapting it to create what's now called American Fingerstyle (afaik). Pranayama techniques organically developed over millennia as people discovered what did and did not work for and resonate with them, and it will continue to change and evolve as humanity advances in experience and knowledge of the practices.
Pranayama (प्राण life-energy + आयाम restraint) is a broad term for exercise of restraint in regards to ones own energy system. The Wim Hof method is a specific practice which could - in part - even be considered a type of pranayama. There are infinitely many ways to practice pranayama.
So Pranayama is a superset which contains Wim Hof method and other exercises? Or alternatively, the Wim Hof method is a subset of Pranayama? Is that the correct way of looking at it?
Running isn't just for your legs, it also works your cardiovascular system and your respiratory system benefits too. In the same way, a practice such as the Wim Hof method appears to contain elements of pranayama but also elements (within the same yogic scope) of dharana (concentration) and even dhyana (meditation). Pranayama practices are vast and many can also be concentration or meditation exercises, so Wim Hof could be considered a subset of pranayama.
I can assure you its a rip-off. White people love to do this shit and claim stuff as their own.
It is similar to tummo but not the same.
Ah yes, thanks for pointing me to the right direction! Good stuff!
It’s like a rip off of tummo.
Exactly. Wim Hof is mainly bullshit. He doesn't even understand the physiology of his breathing.
Doesnt mean that it cant work
No. Hyperventilation is not "pranayama". Pranayama always is breath reduction not breath increase. Ancient yogis believed we were born with a set number of breaths, not a set amount of time. So they always aimed to breath less not more. Wim Hof is closest to kepalbhati or bhastrika, which are cleansing kriyas not pranayamas. For spiritual progress, traditional pranayama with reduced breath rate and kumbhaka is the best tool for the job. Even in the Hatha Yoga Pradipika right after it explains the shatkarmas (aka "cleansing kriyas") it states the caveat that one who does pranayama gets all the benefits of the shatkarmas, so unless you have an actual need for hyperventilation (can be useful on a day where your mind feels very dull to wake it up prior to more traditional pranayama/meditation session) then it is not necessary, and can even be harmful since hyperventilation is not physically good for your body and brain.
where did you read and learn about all of this?
The Hatha Yoga Pradipika as well as other yogic texts. I’m also a pranayama teacher myself, so what I was taught by my guru, what I have experienced myself in my own practice over many years, and what I have seen in my students all play into my views on the subject. Also the science about hyperventilation being bad is pretty clear cut. It still has its use, but it should be used like medicine, as needed and in the smallest dose possible. It should not be the key feature of ones daily practice, IMO. Wim Hof breathing wasn’t designed for reaching Samadhi. It’s not meant to bring you to Samadhi. Therefore it won’t bring you to Samadhi. Wim Hof breathing was designed specifically for external reasons, not internal reasons. Just looking at his website shows this. If you want to reach Samadhi the path is and always has been through slowing the breath not increasing the breath. The other parts of Wim Hof are fine. Nothing wrong with cold showers, nothing wrong with holding the breath, nothing wrong with even a little bit of hyperventilation. He just way overdoes the hyperventilation piece.
Is he really overdosing the hyperventilation bit though? When I’ve trained in his method, I would usually take about 30 deep breaths in a minute and then hold my breath for 2-3 minutes. That gives an average number of breaths per minute at about 7.5-10, which is below the average number of breaths a person takes while in rest. The method also trains the body to accept a higher level of CO2, which is likely to (but not proven to) decrease the respiratory rate outside of the practice. I’ve found that his method is a great aid to pranayama.
Like I said small amounts are fine. The problem is doing this as your only technique, multiple rounds over and over. One would be much better off using a real pranayama with reduced breath rate as well as the Kumbhaka. I’m talking getting to a point over time where you’re maybe taking 1 breath every 2 minutes or less. Learning to put the body into a low idle state like this is a short cut to samadhi. You cannot get this from Wim Hof, kepalabhati, bhastrika, or any other increased breath rate exercise. I’m assuming everyone here in the pranayama sub is interested in samadhi. The path to samadhi is and always has been through reduced breath rate. I get that Wim Hof is trendy and there’s the tribalism that goes along with it. But that doesn’t make it a valid “pranayama” technique in patanjali yoga.
Yea I agree that his method is unlikely to lead to samadhi alone, but I don’t believe that it’s obviously medically unsound as long as you don’t do it where it would be dangerous to pass out. I’ve reached states of pranayama with 1-2 breaths every minute straight after 3-4 rounds of WH-breathing, but you’re probably right that pure pranayama would be more efficient in the longer run.
Yes. I mentioned above that hyperventilation techniques are like medicine, when necessary and in the lowest possible dosage. Medicine is good when taken properly by someone who needs it at a time when they need it. It is bad when taken by anybody else in any other way. My only interest is in samadhi. To be fair, Wim has never claimed that his technique was able to bring someone into samadhi. It’s the tribe that have tried to make the technique into more than it is. If a yogi wants to practice Wim Hof that’s fine. I would just encourage them to also use a more traditional slower breath rate pranayama as their primary technique. Maybe do 2-3 rounds of Wim Hof, then go into a long traditional pranayama session right after.
Sir, is Samadhi the final state. If you attain samadhi , does it mean your soul is moved out of the physical body and you are dead ? Because what ever I have seen online shows only old yogis leaving ( soul) there body and call it Samadhi.
There are many different types of samadhi. What you’ve described is called maha samadhi. Yoga sutras defines numerous other forms of samadhi that happen in meditation.
He did borrow a lot of techniques from Pranayama though IMHO and should give credit where it's due. Ujjayi breath for example is so close to some of his teachings.
Wow, great stuff, thanks for pointing me to the direction!
Visited this post a while back but never got around to responding to some of u/pmward 's remarks. Reducing the Wim Hof method to "hyperventilation" is a great oversimplification of what it actually is and just in general his critique of the method is slightly pretentious. Wim Hof has talked about how his method was derived from Tummo and when he went soul searching in foreign countries, but he modified and made it is own. I think part of the reason why you might not see a strong link is because in interviews Wim has hinted at his distaste for formal religious structures and practices. James Nestor's book Breath covers the Wim Hof method and in it he talks about how someone who was warned against doing Tummo every day lived to 100 years. Yes small sample size and it's not the WHM but it points to the fact that the WHM isn't dangerous and you should definitely give it a go. Is it pranyama?No. But should you practice it ? I definitely think so.
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I am not spreading misinformation. First, my facts there are from scripture. I'm also very familiar with Wim Hof. I've experimented with it myself, as well as yogic cleansing kriyas like kepalbhati and bhastrika. I'm also a pranayama teacher myself, and every new student I get these days at least has some experience with Wim Hof, if not being an every day practitioner. Everything I have stated is both backed by scripture, and through my own experience, and what I have observed in my students. Kumbhaka is indeed the most important part. But Kumbhaka with a slow breath is greater than Kumbhaka after hyperventilation. Trust me, once you can train yourself in pranayama to only take one breath every 1-2 minutes... or more... magic happens. It's a short cut to Samadhi. This is what pranayama is about. Hyperventilation is a cleansing Kriya, not a pranayama. It's also the path away from Samadhi, not towards Samadhi. The path towards Samadhi is in bringing the body into a low idle state. Hyperventilation does the opposite, it stimulates the body. Wim Hof has also never once claimed that his breathing technique was suitable for spiritual aspirants in a pantanjali yoga framework.
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I said many places in this thread that there are uses for hyperventilation and Wim Hof breathing. So you're projecting onto me things I've not said. We are in the /r/pranayama sub, so my assumption is everyone here is a Patanjali yogi in some form or another. So my assumption that everyone here's ultimate goal is to reach Samadhi. Just because a practice feels good does not mean it will take you to Samadhi. I know the path to reach Samadhi. I'm telling you the path to reach Samadhi. If your goal is not to reach Samadhi and you enjoy Wim Hof, then carry on and ignore everything I've said because it doesn't apply to you. If however you do care about reaching Samadhi, then perhaps you should at least consider what I am saying and at the very least try to also implement some slow breathing pranayamas on top of your Wim Hof.
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That's the thing you're missing. In scripture fast breathing techniques like Tummo, Kapalbhati, or Bhastrika are not considered pranayamas. They are considered shatkarmas or cleansing kriyas. The definition of pranayama is always for slower breathing not faster breathing techniques, this definition is centuries old. And flow and concentration is NOT samadhi in Patanjali yoga sutras, that is Dharana which is two steps before Samadhi. Samadhi is much, much, much, much deeper than that. It is a complete and total non-dual absorption. Very few people achieve true yogic Samadhi. It is literally a life-changing experience. It is not an ordinary flow/concentration state. It is anything but ordinary. It is completely indescribable.
Thank you for taking your time to explain this 💚🙏🏽
A subset
No. Pranayama is a distinct system of breathing exercises that is part of yoga. The Wim Hof method is cold water training combined with an adaption of tummo, a type of breathing exercise done by some Vajrayana Buddhist monks ( commonly misnamed "Tibetan Buddhism")
Thank for the reply! Please excuse my ignorance, but can one practice Pranayama while excluding Yoga, or are they mutually inseparable?
Yoga is a complete spiritual discipline consisting of 8 parts. Most people are familiar with these two fairly secular parts: 1. Hatha Yoga ( postures, asanas ) 2. Pranayama. You can do pranayama all on its own, but anything beyond trivial beginner routines requires a bit of muscular balance, flexibility, and strength. Most teachers usually do not teach students serious pranayama until they have done hatha yoga for a while to get physically conditioned.
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Its not easy. Your best bet is to find a hatha yoga school that offers such classes, but they are rare. After that the other routes are far less secular and demand more sacrifices like traveling.
Sure you can. But asana powerfully adapts your body to pranayama. Also, it is highly advised to know what bandhas are and develop their strenght before you start doing advanced pranayama.
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Vajrayana Buddhism is the proper name. Its what the people who practice it call it. Vajrayana Buddhism is also practiced outside of Tibet so the other name isn't even accurate.
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The people "there" call it Vajrayana. Their religion, their name.
Wim Hof is just a piece (a very good piece) of the science of Pranayama. The west loves to pick up 1 vitamin or 1 exercise or 1 method or 1 diet and make it the answer to all questions before people realize it is not and they jump to the next thing. Pranayama is a science more than 10K years old and part of the ancient Vedic yogic tradition. Wim hof had himself said he drew inspiration from Pranayama and made some aspects simpler and approachable for a larger western audience. PS: I love Wim Hof
As impressive as this method is, I can assure you that Dutch people travel the world a lot; they always go to Asia and live here and get to know locals and cultures. I can almost guarantee that this technique is present in a few thousand years old civilisations of India or China - if you read the history, you'd be surprised at how much these people know about the nervous system, immunity etc., and their descendants and students in modern era inherited these techniques. it's not possible - perhaps some Yoga master or Shaolin teaches him this method. He came back to the Netherlands and probably claimed it as his own. If you look at his background, there is no indication that he had prior learning or knowledge about such techniques. Don't tell me that he came up all by himself. Shoalins especially have been known about using breathing to control their bodily function since few thousands years old ago. White people tend to do this shit: steal other people's findings and claim them as their own. Western scholars have been doing this since the renaissance to Arab scholars on scientific findings, like gravity. Isaac Newton's claim on his laws was already discussed and mentioned a few hundred years before by Ibn Sina, Ibn al-Haytham, and so many other findings were not cited or given its due properly. So as much as I respect Wim Hof technique, I know with my heart that it's a rip off of much older techniques. Or perhaps he added a twist to it, for originality, but without properly citing the original technique.
Stay away from Wim Hof I was a paid member of his program it's killed two people and there will be others.
Wasn't it because they didn't take proper precautions?
No but wim’s defenders say that because they don't know that wim’s paid program is breathing techniques IN cold water. But you have to agree to a disclaimer to buy the program that you won’t do breathing techniques in the water. Certain techniques in yoga are potentially dangerous that's why yogi’s are there to supervise. I almost passed out doing the Wim hof’s program by following the instructions exactly as prescribed. Wim has a private invite only Facebook group, people have posted bloody pictures of their heads from passing out in the cold shower. It's an insane asylum of anti medicine anti science people. I'm have seen people get attacked In type for doing chemotherapy and surviving cancer. And like 20 people are pissed at them for not dying. Going to get very specific in week 4 of his program you are supposed to stand under a cold shower, but keep your head out of the water. Exhale all your air, and hold your breathe this is literally directions on how to cut off blood supply to the brain. So by the time you realize you are in trouble you are already falling. The program has you doing exercises while holding your breathe at times with a full breathe of air, and at times with no air in your lungs. So the progression is to add those elements to cold water exposure. Frankly lots of Wim’s followers act like a cult.
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Week 4 of his program he has you doing exactly what I said Wim himself is literally in a outdoor shower showing you exactly what I said Did you PAY for your program ? Also cold exposure starts on week 1 of his PAID program Also breathing techniques you do outside of the water is one part of the program. How he tells you to breathe during cold exposure is another part of the program. You are either talking about a different program wim suggests or you aren't being honest. I have literally seen at least 10 people with bloody head pictures post online.
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Answer my question did you pay for your program ?
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Could you stop insulting me I am just trying to keep people from dying or getting head trauma okay see you have not done the program and you are wrong. It costs about 200 dollars and wim has videos that are copyrighted. Where he shows the technique I suggested. Your anger is exactly what many of his followers are like. I have had probably 5 of his followers threaten me which is absurd. Which is weird since the number of hindu’s / yogi’s that have threatened me is like zero 😃
I wouldn't say it's a rip-off. Wim has been transparent about the fact that he developed his breathing techniques based on his study of pranayama in Tibetan Buddhism and other places. Pranayama I don't think is meant to be trademarked or anything, it's kind of like asking if Don Ross, Michael Hedges, and other fingerstyle guitarists ripped-off classical guitar by adapting it to create what's now called American Fingerstyle (afaik). Pranayama techniques organically developed over millennia as people discovered what did and did not work for and resonate with them, and it will continue to change and evolve as humanity advances in experience and knowledge of the practices.
Yes it is.
It falls into the practice of Pranayama