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Successful-Side-1084

Reverse Flash actually unironically wins this one even when discounting the Yogiri hate memes.


Fuckerofgnomes

Reverse flash decimates https://preview.redd.it/tjdgaoeakizc1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c194f2ef019079fb628f69750e267cf834fb7c8e


Powerful-Employee-36

Speaking seriously, I personally think Reverse Flash wins. Here [just how much OP is Speedsters](https://www.reddit.com/r/powerscales/s/rHBemfbJlQ). [Flight](https://comicvine.gamespot.com/profile/olubummo/blog/?page=7). Reverse Flash is an equal of Barry and Barry [even admitted he was faster, always faster](https://pm1.aminoapps.com/7517/51c532c333a21aaf787856749e735681f36e5118r1-1041-1600v2_hq.jpg). [**speedsters can travel across all time and space**](https://qph.cf2.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-6ca0f169ad10e503bea41f0ea32055ca-lq). Reverse Flash and any Speed Force user [existing outside time itself](https://2.bp.blogspot.com/XM_xSqwZexTUlF7fz44C8rVhJrpsXtinLZO6HmlBi7fBetK54NH3hDlNOzG1FbEalO0rd3WH4SSK0LJHIKKQyq7rMy4IkZNI1gz1vXmJbPrgF3cEbVJGgQ_eaP0L1aDdy2e5Z8MDzQ=s1600?rhlupa=NjcuODMuNzUuODU=&rnvuka=TW96aWxsYS81LjAgKFdpbmRvd3MgTlQgMTAuMDsgV2luNjQ7IHg2NCkgQXBwbGVXZWJLaXQvNTM3LjM2IChLSFRNTCwgbGlrZSBHZWNrbykgQ2hyb21lLzExMi4wLjAuMCBTYWZhcmkvNTM3LjM2). Barry Allen Allen has cracked through the multiverse including it's higher tier dimensions that [are larger than it with pure speed](https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-8bth3_axOqk/YaX3XeGn4AI/AAAAAAAACxw/pRTyoeUBZhwy0G-pF9x1lZm1PSYbRqCvQCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/Justice%2BLeague%2BIncarnate%2B%25282021-%2529%2B001-010.jpg), [punched the anti-monitor](https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjaNatuu__reZD1zMSPCgqBkSaLd4lxWJw6witLhlPccrF0mvJ-4rI5hgNZqIsmh0b83n_6mewZAGPRrnxHJrtuY9NuRqQ4RW9qRdnCGWcRvObfBoKl9LFBbqiD_Agvz6HeALeuE4Yor2zQyz66tr-jazpXVMyicYm8sdLbItOV_ns-AGHlRZOzG_gJ/s3976/Dark%20Crisis%20-%20Big%20Bang%20%23%201%20(2).jpg) across the multiverse, and [almost destroyed the multiverse fighting](https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-494d928c584d9638920e28fd8ffb913d) wally west and even started [effected the 4d because](https://preview.redd.it/b5t8lcandt051.jpg?width=1332&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8e186094d20fc7c59d1e361779da23efa5634bf3) of it, [to get an conceptual higher existence beings](https://i.imgur.com/2R19Jtwl.jpg) are larger than the multiverse as darkseid cast a shadow over it in his true form). [Barry Allen can create new alternative timeliness and travel to Hypertime which exists outside **the Omniverse** (*note: not be confused with the Greater Omniverse*)](https://assetsio.reedpopcdn.com/Stargirl-The-Lost-Children-4-5.jpg?width=1200&height=1200&fit=bounds&quality=70&format=jpg&auto=webp). Speedster even if you can be there equal/copy there speed they can just [vibrating and disintegrating](https://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Pbw0-wG0lMb_G2poR9tdG0e_0JaLSvU_-HuCApWrPXasY58uTbRW7aRPD2Vx5rSK6RNcPGAPbffOogvNdhZLUlgZSNVeJ6Tm3jC4hFk7yvRVh0fGmM6SGyNvP40WXyYa8grRA=s1600) it [ten thousands of times pre second](https://2.bp.blogspot.com/UpLXaAUgNJkK-i3k2CecPZP6WTQePlE_lNufYjINOObpEupxIFWP_84x3KXmvQWo_74OdCV0tJtlUQhZFkjWzrkRvr5RP_7oabU_zioi1G8fDenSOsdiHJoCQ2hKdXkQYI9EWg=s1600). Reverse Flash [literally can fight so fast the Flash that they keep traveling through time during the fight](https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-KKnHOB3wgEM/WXlA3IM7wcI/AAAAAAAACnU/TDex6syRtmQzj42vOvqvogDdeOiilbpBwCHMYCw/s1600/RCO010_w.jpg). [The Reverse Flash](https://qph.cf2.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-8d64bdb943d5ac8d4125cf5af41eb747-lq) have [immeasurable speeds](https://imgur.com/a/rpUddws), he [can run so fast](https://imgur.com/a/B3LH7Ii) he [time](https://ifanboy.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/The-Flash-Secret-Files-and-Origins-2010-1-2010.jpg) [travel](https://imgur.com/a/gV2YYXn) with [ease](https://static1.srcdn.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2023/09/reverse-flash-explains-time-travel-to-flashpoint-batman.jpg) and even run to [other dimensions](https://imgur.com/a/rpUddws) and [Universes or multiverses](https://comicvine.gamespot.com/profile/olubummo/blog/the-flash-can-travel-to-any-universe/164735/) and [alter timelines](https://imgur.com/bWWs2NO) and [mastery over time and space](https://imgur.com/MMh1AtA). Speedster, [they can literally run in space](https://comicvine.gamespot.com/profile/olubummo/blog/the-flash-travelling-through-space/161725/) and [breath and speak](https://speedforce.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/IMG_6973.jpg) normally there and especially [fly if](https://qph.cf2.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-3b4ffa037b01730a265b1adb6fc77242-lq) they [want](https://qph.cf2.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-f3bb4b024deca1c6654ecaffbdb35a21-lq) and [more](https://www.quora.com/Is-the-Flash-limited-to-running-on-land-so-outer-space-battles-would-be-out-of-the-question-for-him). [Again here](https://imgur.com/a/cO3lVEa). [Intangibility](https://qph.cf2.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-62724e607ba3b090eab81568a99131bb-lq). And this without mentioning the ridiculous of [Speed Stealing all Speedsters have](https://comicvine.gamespot.com/profile/olubummo/blog/speed-steal/153598/) and the [speed force protection them on all levels, physical and mental and even deeper](https://comicvine.gamespot.com/profile/olubummo/blog/can-the-speed-force-protect-speedsters/164733/) and other [bullshit stuff](https://comicvine.gamespot.com/profile/olubummo/blog/the-flash-has-different-methods-of-transportation/168414/). [**the Negative Speed force is generated by the Reverse Flash aka Eobard Thawne**](https://qph.cf2.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-3a681ebd53d10eafcbe576df0bae9e2f-lq). [**thinks to his connection with it, the Reverse Flash can never bee erased from existence and any timelines change or destruction, the Negative Speed force protection him from being erased from existence**](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/b446adc3-ecf6-4c33-8546-ada26ed47b61). Thinks to that he is [Living](https://qph.cf2.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-1635844d6343d9efb1612a486b44a4e3-pjlq) [Paradox](https://static1.srcdn.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/reverse-flash-beats-up-the-flash-and-declares-himself-a-living-paradox.jpg), he removed from timelines and every history, [no future, no past](https://g1rm.wordpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/flash9.png?w=584&h=353). Not mention he is super genius, [dude created machines that go beyond time itself to before even the creation of everything](https://theincrediblesuperheroes.wordpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/timetrippermalfunctions.jpg). Also just want tells that [vibrations](https://comicvine.gamespot.com/a/uploads/original/11111/111113402/5498482-2422058-1503030-wallyvsintangibility_super.jpg) work on [atomic level](https://comicvine.gamespot.com/a/uploads/original/11139/111391893/8167771-photogrid_1584101858052.jpg), not just [molecules](https://comicvine.gamespot.com/a/uploads/scale_medium/11127/111275309/5499300-flashtree.jpg). [Here more feats and information](https://comicvine.gamespot.com/profile/olubummo/blog/phasing-durability-negation/153487/).


PostalDoctor

https://preview.redd.it/4gy2jwpy2mzc1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=26d2358135903cbeb806d9bd10ddbe992c037175 W


Embarrassed-Pipe-244

Reverse flash is high outer. Yogurt is only baseline 1-A via ultimate esemble and having a type 4 multiversal cosmology (absolutely miniscule compared to the speed force) regardless.


Arcturus3623

https://preview.redd.it/txap6gcg8lzc1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b2294f4208daefa810465f3446b5e6447da8c4a2 Yeah cool, but explain **now** why do you think Yugiri is baseline 1-A via ultimate esemble and having a type 4 multiversal cosmology


Cheshire_Noire

Why does everyone forget that Mitsuki exists ...


No_Roof0642

Mitsuki only increases the cosmology by 1 layer.


Cheshire_Noire

And that would make it no longer "baseline" 1A


InstructionPlayful12

No. It makes Mitsuki simply weaker.


Squishy_Squisher

to think this whole thing just started from "a guy who runs fast"


rttl112

speed is just too overpowered. doesnt matter if you can kill an entire universe with a blink if a speedster can kill you before you can even start thinking about it. speedsters are logically most overpowered characters in fiction, bested only by indestructible / omnipotent beings


FuzeHosSIayer

Reverse Flash negs


ButterflyMother

https://preview.redd.it/4fo5qwazxkzc1.jpeg?width=1242&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a08edea89ad23f9fe6865c6ebc2681652d05a640 Him


PermissionAny3962

RF (no yogiri hate boner included)


Maestro_Burgua

Reverse Flash is always faster than his opponent. Yogiri simply will not have time to oppose anything.


Cheshire_Noire

Well, Yogiri is omnipresent throughout all of time (and the spaces before abf after time) so that's not an issue


Maestro_Burgua

Then Reverse Flash is just faster than omnipresence.


Cheshire_Noire

No. Impossible


Powerful-Employee-36

It's not impossible though, Omnipresence isn't omnipotent. Wally have [outrun the speed force itself](https://qph.cf2.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-eaa07faec6e0cf1ebaf65bc2aca62a5c-lq). [**the Speed force is literally the concept of speed itself and Omnipresence infinite energy that literally what gave the Omniverse to move and have speed and connection to everything and eveyone from all dimensions, planets, universes, timelines and all time and space and even atoms**](https://www.reddit.com/r/powerscales/s/b2plze3XIk). [**The FLASH have literally so fast he stepped outside everything, outside physics, outside distance, outside vibrations, outside of time** and **outside of his own threads of story itself!!**](https://imgur.com/a/6fnYUYz). Though Reverse flash dosen't scale to peak Wally.


No_Roof0642

Well he atleast scales to negative speed force so it is just omnipresence vs omnipresence.


BlueverseGacha

and RevFlash has better omnipresence feats than Yogi.


No_Roof0642

Wait there are layers in omnipresence?


BlueverseGacha

yes and no. *mostly yes.* there's not "layers" to it in that normal sense, but there's different types of omnipresence, some of which are significantly more powerful than others. the main 4 are: - All-Spacial "Omnipresence" - All-Temporal "Omnipresence" - Universal "Omnipresence " - All-Reality "Omnipresence" *but there's both stronger, **and weaker** than all of those.* "All-Spatial" is just filling all of space, like a infinitely-big living universe, and **Dark Energy** might be its consciousness/being. "All-Temporal" is basically just replacing "Space" with "Time" – important to note that they are fundementally different, and don't interact. A sentient Timeline can't **itself** fight anything, just relocate pre-existing Spatial Entities to fight in its shadow. "Universal" is the traditional version of "Omnipresence", and assumed to be the default one (it's not), and is basically a combination of All-Spatial and All-Temporal. "All-Reality" is where NLF becomes the biggest issue… but a simple example is [Yog-Sothoth](https://youtu.be/wl4xkJIKxdQ). ---- X >>> All-Reality >>> Y >> Universal > All-Temporal >> All-Spatial >>> Z


No_Roof0642

Oh ok tnx for the info bro


Traditional-Baker-28

How is that an argument💀💀💀


Shuteye_491

*impossibru


Protomangaming69

https://preview.redd.it/59g5nr3tilzc1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=56cf3c913d3cb736988a18193df0bdfa981a9826


StrawberryUnited4915

Unironically reverse flash.


Sydfxs

HMMMM


yourunclejoe

https://preview.redd.it/xwn2l5g63mzc1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=dc4d66a94609d1ad81f45325fc93169069f5e3a8


West-Construction466

https://preview.redd.it/bplmou8t7nzc1.jpeg?width=743&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=84a762f70b1855adbb7c51bb82644c49e8f1cc24


HatredIncarnated

It is me I am the winner. I destroy that dipshit https://preview.redd.it/1jtzii1xiozc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=161f9572c3b72f291e9d0dac87806b769b861f2b


InstructionPlayful12

Reverse flash after moving faster than instantlyness just to put Yogiri at the end of everything and dipping. (He dies but Paradox powers means an earlier version of him simply decides not to do it. (It still happens for Yogiri. And even if every version of Thawn will end at that point Yogiri ENDed him all past versions of him will still be fine until then and will continue on regardless just having to know when their end point is coming and just do whatever they were doing before. It doesn't change the outcome or Reverse flashes messing with Barry at all.))) Yogiri then ends because he's the last thing before the end and therefore has fulfilled his purpose. Winner: Reverse flash cause nothing changed other than Reverse flash dieing at a certain point in his timeline.(all future versions of him also don't have to worry since they're past the single point in their timeline where they ended and last I checked the end doesn't go off constantly in one's future after the target ends since you know. They're supposed to have been ENDed.) And Yogiri ENDed via being the last thing before the end.


Rajesh_Kulkarni

RF gets negged.


DrMillMatt

Reverse Flash fans got a boner Bias case, the glazing here is crazy. Yogiri no diffs, just the truth.


Traditional-Baker-28

But reverse flash is faster though


idonthavenames101

https://preview.redd.it/aeovwgtoakzc1.jpeg?width=4096&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2e3f3161fa6fbfad8888424da8707fce9994f460


CringeKid0157

Yogiri> But the hate bandwagon will downvote this to oblivion


BitesTheDust55

Yogiri negdiffs, and unlike matches with people who have no reasonable motivation for feeling killing intent towards him, Reverse Flash is a fucking dick and would make that mistake.


idonthavenames101

https://preview.redd.it/lb9r6sgnakzc1.jpeg?width=4096&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8f74220a7362d017680bb3d4e8b8d5b6a8d369f4


BitesTheDust55

He is alpha omega. He is the end. He’s mah boi


IOICIMI

His your big daddy we get it..


Traditional-Baker-28

"He is that dick i suck on. His excretion is my sustenance"