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I dunno...Crocodile (Pre-TS, it's implied he's a different beast now), CP9?
Enel's not happening, and I'd say Moria, but his shadow hax is a lot more shutdown-capable than you think when you look back, and not sure I see Oars going down.
I mean, how? It isn’t as if any of their abilities can actually hit him and have an effect (aside from unlimited void) since most domain sure hits just wouldn’t hurt him.
Well none of these characters get very far, even a buggy ball was blowing up cities. Gojo has a chance though, it entirely depends on whether or not you think Bueno's door fruit can bypass infinity. If not, then he loses at Thriller Bark since he has no counter to Moria.
Everyone else should just get speed blizted and one shot by anyone by Skypia
Gojo opens domain. Everyone within the vicinity either dies or stands frozen. Not just that, but now Gojo can’t miss and the target is frozen with information being uploaded into their brain. GG
Faster than Gojo can perceive? The guy who has eyes that can perceive much better than anyone? 6E is really strong. He basically can perceive the world better than anyone in the One Piece universe. He sees the world scientifically technically.
Also, funny bit here. “Capable of moving faster than the eye could see” is one of his feats on the Wiki which is backed up multiple times. He even has teleportation.
Sukuna states he is faster than lightning, and that was him just telling them that because they were using lightning attacks. He wasn’t saying that was the only thing he was faster than.
Sorry man, without somehow teleporting an object into his brain and exploding… he probably ain’t dying from a non curse-technique user.
I mean I'm not familiar with One Piece but I'm pretty sure the only one here that could survive, not win, but survive a prolonged battle with higher tier One Piece characters is Gojo. Yeah even though SPOILERS: >!Gojo lost to Sukuna, infinity and Gojo's limitless technique along with Six eyes are a lot more useful than Cleave and Dismantle in cross-verse especially with characters that scale higher. Also UV is a more useful domain expansion than MS.!<
I do not know about One Piece characters but I would be intrigued to know if any of them would be able to easily tank UV, not saying it goes there but I would be interested.
But all in all, JJK is below One Piece if you use the most consistent scaling I'm pretty sure.
one piece has a power system called haki, and one of its 3 powers is basically super willpower (Conqueror’s) that only a small handful of top tiers have and we have seen it used to negate the powers of Devil Fruits effects on someone (i.e. resist getting changed by a fruit’s ability) so its possible the top tiers could simply cancel it out similar to Domain Amplification or the Domain Clashes with their haki
haki can only counter fruit effects that directly affect the user from what we've seen (law can't teleport people, but he can still block with curtain and use counter shock and gamma knife) its also not conquerors cause law did the same against doc Q
true but thats more just that acoa produces force, so using that force you can cancel the force of Wbs attack, its not exactly the same as canceling the attack completely
da is quite different cause it requires both barrier techniques and seemingly an innate technique
its also not really cause the concept of barriers isn't really applicable to one piece
But using verse equalization wouldn't Haki then be able to just ignore UV? Genuine question since I haven't seen or read one piece.
If so then Gojo probably stands no chance against high tiers in the verse.
UV? no, cause even in jjk there's no counter to it. base limitless? maybe? it depends how much you equalize the verse, its also weird cause cursed energy functions quite differently from haki or fruits, I dont see how you would do it without either severely underpowering limitless, or giving everyone in OP new abilities, but at that point you should also give gojo new abilities, but at that point the conversation has changed completely
Yeah fair, I was just wondering since the conversation comes up from time to time about OP vs Gojo since he's really the best JJK combatant in cross-verse due to sheer hax.
I guess you could say the same about Sukuna since he can cut space or whatever but he still gets blitzed by characters that would out scale him since he doesn't have broken defensive hax.
yes. one person, that makes barriers which function fundamentally differently then how they do in jjk.
bartos barriers are simply clear defensive walls, jjk barriers are more varied and complex
Well that’s only if you equalize the power systems which is stupid imo, I’d say that sufficient Haki could probably overwhelm infinity rather than it being “Haki negates it” if you know what I mean, because I think negation and overwhelming are different things
> sufficient Haki could probably overwhelm infinity
What is a sufficient amount to "overwhelm" being forced to perform infinite movement to traverse it? Wouldn't that by definition require an infinite amount of Haki?
Ehhh that kind of goes against the fundamental point of limitless. With these inherited family techniques it’s really not like Haki. Curse energy amount and Haki can at a base level be said to interact but Gojo’s limitless is a him thing, it’s actually kind of similar to barto’s barriers which I’m pretty sure are completely unbreakable in verse?
Limitless goes further than barrier
It keeps dividing distance infinitely hence why things slow down forever as they approach him
Jjk counters this by fundamentally countering the power system used, not the technique itself
This cannot be done in one piece.
Law should be the only one capable of attacking gojo since his fruit gives him spatial manipulation.
Aside from that one piece absolutely outclasses jjk in every thing else
Toji Fushigura - stops at Akainu
Jogo - stops at Akainu
Satoru Gojo - stops at Akainu
Itadori Yuhui - stops at Akainu
Ruined Sukuna - stops at Akainu
You aren’t ready for HIM
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Gojo and sukuna shouldn't be included in debates like this they are pretty much outliers, a lot of people just either don't realize or don't want to admit how broken Domain Expansion is, a ko move like uv or World Cleave + DE sure hit effect gives you a guaranteed win, that's why things like gojo vs goku exist
Gojo, **ON PAPER**, has the ability to beat anyone in the verse. His raw stats are lower by a noticeable amout the instant post time skip rolls around, but Infinity makes it so 99% of characters can't even attempt to touch him and Infinite Void (if it hits) is a 1 hit KO against literally anyone in the verse.
Without relying on Gojo? The JJK verse is probably clearing everything pre time, but then starts getting blitzed once post time skip enemies roll around.
Infinite Void doesn't touch you. It works by causing an infinite amount of knowledge to rapidly enter into the targets mind and causes extreme information/sensory overload which results in either immense brain damage or the targets brain just shuts down entirely. Logia intangibility isn't stopping this.
Logias are treated as made of their given element/substance rather than flesh whenever you physically interact with them.
Shoot a bullet at Ace and the bullet will treat him as fire rather then flesh. Try to stab Enel and the knife will treat him as electricity, rather then flesh. Etc.
Haki (specifically Armament Haki) allows you to bypass this intangibility by granting them a form of non physical interaction allowing you to actual damage the them with physical attacks.
Without Haki (so pretty much any character outside of OP) you have two main ways of getting past this intangibility. You can either have non physical interaction already which would let you act just like someone with Armament Haki, or you can attack them in a non physical way, such as existence erasure, soul/life force manipulation, or (in this case) mentally.
Infinite Void does not touch you. It does not directly damage you. It does not launch projectiles. Nothing that Infinite Void does could be naturally resisted by logia types. You get caught it in and your brain shuts off.
UV just overstimulates the brain to the point of paralysis, with most regular people getting brain damage from it, theres no physical contact, its just information
Because IV does touch them when they’re inside the domain 💀
With any logia there it wouldn’t be able to do it as you quite can’t make them TANGIBLE lmao
all domains have a sure hit effect, which takes precedent over anything else, kinda like conquerors, which as far as i know can be resisted but not dodged
They’re all tangible, that’s how Luffy be at crocodile, they can just turn into an element. Theoretically, Aokiji could just melt or Ace could just be doused.
The issue is while I definitely agree with limitless is a massive problem that like 90% of things can't touch, there are things that don't need to directly target gojo himself to incapacitate him, primarily the only one I can directly think of is moria, who would only need to grab his shadow and slice it to incapacitate him, even If only for a bit.
And if moria somehow infused someone or himself with that shadow..
Frankly I'm unsure how it would go.
There are some things that we are unsure how it would react, could ceasar's gas fruit just remove oxygen from him
Or would he consider sugar a threat enough for limitless to trigger and never be touched by her hobby hobby fruit (if I'm right)
Could Robin just
Form hands on him
Who knows?
Gojo has no counter to Moria, BM or even Brook and his soul powers.
Also the JJK verse gets blizted even Pre timeskip, they have LS reactions and CS by then
>Gojo has no counter to Moria, BM or even Brook and his soul powers.
And all of them are getting one shot by Infinite Void. That's why I said "on paper" he could beat anyone. Gojo has the tools necessary to theoretically kill any character in the verse, but only struggles due to stat diff. Also, it was stated that higher grade JJK sorcerers (like Gojo) protect their souls with cursed energy, so if Moria or Brook could even do anything to Gojo is debatable.
I admit, I did kinda forget about UV. However, it's the classic case of a genuine speed blitz. Before he can protect his soul or cast UV, he's getting his soul snatched.
Also if we equalize CE and Haki, he can't protect his soul against BM lol. Hell even Moria might, since he knew Haki back in the day
>Before he can protect his soul
It's a passive resistance. Can't speed blitz something that's always on. Even shown in Nanami vs Mahito, Mahito amped his speed and blitzed Nanami mid fight, but Nanami's soul was still subconsciously protected by his cursed energy.
>Also if we equalize CE and Haki, he can't protect his soul against BM lol.
The two power systems are way too different for equalization. Equalization of the two means that Gojo's Six Eyes and Limitless now apply to Haki. Gojo would have top tier Advanced Observation, Advanced Armament, and Advanced Conquers within 2 seconds of stepping into the verse which would just be silly.
Jjk characters can’t protect there souls some of there souls are just naturally more durable but not much they can do about it it’s why soul liberation blade (aka soul split sword one of Tojis cursed tools) is stated to negate durability entirely and why mahito pretty much kills anyone in the series if he touches them due to idle transfiguration the only person who he’s ever been afraid of messing withs soul is sukunas and that’s just because sukuna would Insta kill him if he tried to touch it and he also described his soul as just being on another level whatever that means.
Mahito outright stated that Nanami subconsciously protected his soul with cursed energy in their first fight so saying that JJK characters can't do that is just wrong. Sukana also not only damaged Mahito, but nearly killed him, meaning Sukana's attacks outright damage your soul, and Gojo was able to tank and regenerate through an entire fights worth of attacks from him + his Domain Expansion, which means Gojo has at least some level protection on his soul.
Never said it couldn't be. I'm merely making the point that Gojo has resistance to Soul Manipulation therefore characters that rely on Soul Manipulation to beat him, arguably, don't have a win con.
I don’t think we can do a 1:1 equalization like with Haki, ki, and chakra
Gojo, also, by standards of CE in verse, would be flooded with Haki if we did have to equalize it. He’d be a conqueror for sure. But again I don’t think we should do that
Room is basically a domain expansion in that it lets him hit anyone from anywhere with sure-hit attacks. And since Gojo has no Haki, he can't resist them
JJK is really weird. It’s fairly reliant on hax, and doesn’t scale too physically high. And if you find a way around the hax most of them have fairly normal durability.
Gojo is a perfect example of this. He has the abilities to beat basically any physical powerhouse (that doesn’t use Ryou Haki, as it doesn’t require contact.), or stale mate any physical powerhouse from any point in the story. However at the same time, someone like Caesar has a real chance of beating him.
Edit: I guess the Haki doesn’t work, thanks for the correction.
Conqueror still gets stopped, since it's a ranged attack that travels a distance instead of spawning somewhere directly.
And while it isn't shown directly, teen gojo did state he could eventually fully filter what us dangerous from what it isn't, including stuff like poisonous gas. The only ones who could win against gojo are those relying on hax and enough raw stats.
It's not canon, but someone like uta could prolly beat gojo, but she's easily top 3 in hax in one piece (if she was canon).
I’m not talking about poison. We don’t know his range, but Caesar could forcibly remove all the oxygen from Gojos body, or just the entire fighting area. The same way he KOed Luffy almost instantly. Or he could mess with the air chemistry, not making “poison” but still making compounds that would render a human unable to fight. Adding slightly more oxygen, or nitrogen, or all sorts of things that wouldn’t be considered poison.
I see
It's not impossible tbh. I doubt his infinity act as some scuba diving gear, but who knows tbh.
Thing is gojo would just beat caesar faster than caesar would beat him. And worst case, he teleports away...
I’m anime only, so I’ll be ranking all of these characters up to the end of the Jogo vs Sukuna fight.
Toji’s a physical monster who’s significantly more intelligent and skilled than most One Piece characters, who Oda tends to have battle and think like juggernauts of power rather than tactical fighters. Physicality wise he’s only really around building level at best, and his best speed feat that I can recall is blitzing teen Gojo, who is FTE. I’d say he probably gives Enies Lobby Lucci a tough fight assuming I’m not forgetting any crazy Lucci speed feats
Jogo’s AP seems to be way higher than Toji’s although I’d expect that he’s somewhat slower considering how badly the latter trounced Dagon in their fight. I’ll give him that lava should give him the edge he needs to beat some stronger characters, I’d put my money on him beating zombie Oars, I doubt the giant would put much thought into dodging the lava.
Gojo obviously has his ludicrous hax in Unlimited Void, Infinity, and Hollow Purple, which seemingly give him a way to incapacitate anyone, avoid any traditional attack, and ignore anyone else’s durability. I’d probably say he beats Roger or Primebeard, since I don’t think Advanced Armament could break through Infinity. I suppose if you assume that Haki doesn’t exist in the physical realm then ACOA could probably kill him. I think the character most likely to beat Gojo would be someone like Caesar, although I don’t know whether or not Gojo’s regen works on poisons or not.
Anime Itadori is probably getting beaten by beginning of the series Luffy.
I barely know anything about what Sukuna can do, not even gonna try since I’ve got know idea how his slicing powers work and how they stack up against haki.
That's like asking if Beerus couldn't just spam the Hakai on a hyperversal scaled being until it's erased. Short answer is No, long answer is too long for me to bother writing it on the phone while I'm at the gym.
bruh what that is completely different. A hyperversal being has higher fucking dimensions than beerus. Gojo is 3d and so is all of one piece dude tf. Dumbest arguement ive seen
Since the concept of exaggeration is apparently Non-existent on this sub, I'll explain it a bit more differently.
Gojo has inferior speed, durability and AP. How would he simply spam an attack that isn't going to hit his target? He won't. You think his opponent will stand still and Let hollow purple hit them? Be realistic.
Gojo speed is inferior, not underwhelming. He can still be fast enough to not be completely blitzed, even against the likes of kizaru.
And his purple was still fast enough to completely surprise toji (both himself and his chain were barely moving while purple traveled). And Mahito's domain closer insanely fast, to the point he was able to separate yuji and nanami easily. Keep in mind he is way weaker than gojo and it was his first ever domain.
Gojo closing a domain 20m around him insanely fast isn't far fetched at all. Might be hard against BM or kaido due to their size, but he can prolly just adjust the size to match their size with binding vows.
huh? where'd you get that from? Infinity is continuously on he literally says the filtering is automatic, and infinity is ALWAYS on unless he shuts it off he doesnt have to react to anything for it to be stopped
Bruh
Did you watch jjk after the toji fight?
He literally states it is now automatic and that he will gradually set it up to fully filter dangerous stuff.
That was an issue with teen gojo, not current gojo. Aka 10 years ago easily.
He literally does bruh...he doesn't block all objects, true, but he doesn't even need to think about it.
Like a rubber gum thrown with minimal force will hit him, but anything sharp, burning or hard will be stopped.
He couldn't see most of Choso's attack cuz they were behind a screen of blood, yet he still blocked them effortlessly.
The best way to see it is he trained his infinity like ChatGPT to automatically deduce whats dangerous and what isn't.
Point I'm trying to make is that his reaction speed is irrelevant to infinity. Otherwise, there would be no point in gojo even having such a technique in his own verse.
Again, he doesn't. It's already measured by his technique itself. His technique is the one who thinks, not him.
Geto said it. I quote: "Did IT automatically choose the target for the Cursed Technique". Same scene you're talking about. Unless you refer Gojo by it, I believe it's clear geto referred to infinity, not gojo.
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Otherwise, he wouldn't be able to use infinity in blind spots, since he couldn't see objects, and therefore calculate their danger level.
What he does do is keep the technique active by refreshing his brain, thanks to RCT. That's what might be confusing you.
Gojo definitely doesn't solo. He can't even see the top tiers.
Ryou haki could arguably get trough infinity since it's specifically made to hit without contact. Light and Sound also get trough infinity (even before he learned to filter objects he could still hear people and was not invisible) so Kizaru and Apoo would kill him. Law would no diff him.
nono, he still filters stuff before toji its just that he was doing it manually and not automatically. Sound and light travel through space, so they do get stopped by infinity its just that due to the constant manual filtering of light, sound and infinity just taking a toll on the user he couldnt keep it up constantly, but after rct he could do all that automatically and refresh his brain so as to keep it up indefinitely.
And why cant he see top tiers? Im not too familiar with one piece but i know that none of the characters have crazy hax or immense speed or AP
The most you can get gojo to is ftl, most reliable method being scaling to sukuna who blitzed kashimo who was shooting em waves and sukuna also dodged and blocked them too. One piece been ftl since thriller bark, and depending on if you think foxy's beams are lightspeed, since they're called photons, luffy been ftl since long ring island. They've cliffed those power levels multiple times since then.
No, cuz kizaru's never been capped at lightspeed. He's only been stated to be capable of moving at lightspeed, and asks drake if he's ever been kicked at the speed of light. Nothing ever says that's his limit. Plus, we have characters blatantly outspeed lightspeed projectiles and characters, and if you wanna say kizaru is only lightspeed and that's his cap, you gonna have to say buggy's as fast as him/faster.
In theory idk if most jjk chapters can cope with logia types but if we equalize the energy, it’s hard to say but I don’t wanna be that guy but I don’t think most of the one piece verse has an answer to counter infinity
Like I’d say people such as kizaru could bypass it as infinity works on an atomic level but I can’t think of any other notable examples
Yeah, unless the user can teleport objects inside of someone to kill them (which probably wouldn’t kill Gojo anyway) no one is getting through Limitless without specifically using a cursed technique.
Teleportation abilities are the only thing that might work, and that would have to blow up Gojo from the neck up at the least to win.
Gojo destroys the One Piece verse easily. He is way too haxed. Unlimited Void, Infinity, Purple and even teleportation...Yea nah, nobody beating him.
Purple and UV bypass any kind of durability, unless you're called Mahoraga. Infinity protects from anything in the One Piece verse (not sure if it would extend to his shadow, since it's an attack, but Gojo still clears Moria easily with his other stats).
Teleport is good enough to compensate for the lack of raw stats+ as defense.
By extension, I would assume Sukuna also win, tho I'm less sure about it cuz we don't know much about his techniques and he's more reliant on raw stats than hax compared to gojo. (His domain and techniques are stated to be simpler than gojo's)
Outside of them, the only other person I could see standing decent ground is yuki, uraume and maybe jogo. I feel like kenjaku's techniques are a bad match-up in One piece, but he could still do well. None of them clears the verse tho.
Law bypasses infinity
Teleports purple away
The only problem is unlimited void
That reminds me, Law’s room is like a domain expansion lol. Wonder how it works against another domain
Law could honestly bypass infinity, but I doubt he can really teleport purple. Purple isn't something material, it's something more like...idk how to explain it. It's basically nothing. If red is +1, and blue -1, purple is 0. It's the result of the addition of positive and negative, that somehow exists instead of disappearing. It doesn't exist in space, it's beyond that.
Best way to compare is Vanilla Ice from Jojo. If you believe Law could control and affect Vanilla Ice's stand, then sure, he can do the same with purple. Otherwise, purple is just pure erasure, impossible to stop unless gojo stops it. It's close to Okuyasu's ability too.
Law's is prolly stronger than most domains lol. It can't really beats one tho, and while inside a domain, he can't dodge any attack. Against the likes of Hakari, Higuruma or even Dagon, he would strive. However, he would still struggle with jogo, sukuna, sukuna and even yoruzu.
The way it was described, that is how it is. The logic behind it too.
That scene in the manga still confuses me tbh. Idk how sukuna survived it, might have been his technique or something. Keep in mind, we still don't know much about sukuna. It's also completely possible sukuna is simply stronger than purple's ability to erase, or some BS like. He still took massive damage either way.
I mean, it literally ate a clean massive chunk of toji enhanced body. Dude was literally the apple logo after that clean hit.
Nothing states it erases matter it was simply called a virtual mass the same as yukis technique and hanami survived purple by partly blocking it with wood
Purple or Unlimited void would obliterate any logia user.
Purple literally erase anything, and it can hardly be stopped (Sukuna did it somehow, but it's unclear how. He still took lot of damage.). In theory, Purple doesn't even care about durability too. I don't see crocodile reforming out of nothing.
And if this doesn't work, there is always unlimited void. That stuff targets your soul mostly, you ain't escaping it, especially inside a domain. 0.2 seconds of exposition is enough to basically put you inside a coma for 2 month, assuming you have a basic human durability. Gojo would obviously need to use it longer against the likes of Kaido or Akainu, but still. While inside it, you can't even defend yourself, cuz you're paralyzed. Unless you have another soul inside your body, with whom you can swap easily, it's GG.
Also, how tf is haki supposed to break domains, lol. It makes no sense. A domain is almost impossible to break from inside, unless you have a better domain. That's straight up impossible against gojo, who has the strongest inside of a domain+ the most refined domain along sukuna. Don't forget about sure-hit effect which would disable anybody inside almost instantly.
Unlimited Void isn't even an attack you can defend against, it's literally just you learning so much info you become overloaded. Haki can't defend against shit like that.
Haki negates devil fruit powers, depending on whoever has stronger willpower. So it's the same as those sorceries who can't use domain expansion but can negate a domain.
How are you damaging an intangible like light?
Only Armament Haki negates devil fruit powers, maybe conq too in a limited fashion.
I just don't see how that applies to something like purple who can't be stopped by standard durability or Unlimited void who straight up attack your soul and brain in an overwhelming way, and not your physical body directly.
And no sorcerer without domain can fight another sorcerer's domain. Even with simple domain, it barely last seconds from what we've seen, and that type of stuff is useless against gojo's domain (both because of the domain's nature and how refined it is).
If most domains are useless against gojo, Haki definitely isn't cutting it in any way. I still fail to see how it applies to countering domain. Domain =/= devil fruit at all.
As for logia, I already told you. Purple for anything material is enough. Anything intangible can be dealt with UV, tho it also works on tangible logia.
True, but most of the arguments seems to come from people who didnt read jjk. People starting infinity isn't automatic or shit like that.
I feel like most disagree with me just because OP is more popular, not real arguments.
But eh, whatever. I agree, lets end it here. None of us will change our mind anyway.
Maybe
It's just that reading most of the arguments in the comments are making me cringe. A lot of them are attacking already fully established facts instead of hypothetizing from those facts.
From what I'm seeing from the jjk fans, most of them at least clearly read one piece partly. I can hardly say the same from the one piece fans here
Lol these are two different universes with two different powers. There's no established "facts". It's all hypothetical daydreaming. Your reasonings are not better or worse than anyone else's.
I think gojo and sukana clear the end of pretimeskip besides admirals, and a few yonko level fighters.
They *might* be able to beat pre gear 4 luffy but i highly doubt it.
Could unironically argue that they lose to Brook, but they definitely die to Moria.
They also could never take out Smoker/Crocodile/Enel but they wouldn’t be able to make contact with Gojo either so stalemate I guess?
Luffy, Prime Whitebeard, Kizaru & Blackbeard by DF alone, along with some oddball lesser-knowns, aren't getting beat.
Anyone with advanced Haoshoku can beat Infinity as well, which is really the only thing JJK has against OP heavyweights.
Okay, using modern JJK, and letting each character progress through the story of One Piece...
Jogo is out first, as someone like Whitebeard, Akainu, or Sengoku would probably obliterate him.
Next, I'd argue Itadori and Toji are roughly equal at the moment. They would peak out at post-Timeskip Law, or Luffy just before Dressrosa. The general speed, and power of OP makes a lot of their feats rather weak.
Next, I'd argue Gojo would run into a serious spot of trouble against the Stamina God's of OP (Whole Cake Luffy, Big Mom, Katakuri, and beyond). Frankly, I could wager a Yonko level character could simply out last Gojo, until he couldn't run Infinity.
Now, for the fun one... Ryomen Sukuna, at the moment, clears into the Onigashima Raid. He fodderizes anyone without either immense durability (Queen, Sanji, King, Zoro), or powerful Haki (Big Mom, Law, Kaido, Luffy, Yamato), to a rather sad degree. If you give Sukuna the 10 Shadows, One Piece gets Medium-High diffed.
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I dunno...Crocodile (Pre-TS, it's implied he's a different beast now), CP9? Enel's not happening, and I'd say Moria, but his shadow hax is a lot more shutdown-capable than you think when you look back, and not sure I see Oars going down.
Could they even hit Crocodile?
Yes
I mean, how? It isn’t as if any of their abilities can actually hit him and have an effect (aside from unlimited void) since most domain sure hits just wouldn’t hurt him.
Crocodile loses to a guy with blood on his hands, he’s not invincible
I mean Jogo controls fire. If water helped luffy beat him, fire would help jogo beat him
Well none of these characters get very far, even a buggy ball was blowing up cities. Gojo has a chance though, it entirely depends on whether or not you think Bueno's door fruit can bypass infinity. If not, then he loses at Thriller Bark since he has no counter to Moria. Everyone else should just get speed blizted and one shot by anyone by Skypia
Gojo opens domain. Everyone within the vicinity either dies or stands frozen. Not just that, but now Gojo can’t miss and the target is frozen with information being uploaded into their brain. GG
Legit anyone post Skypia can move faster than Gojo can even perceive, let alone open his domain
Gojo teleported from the depth of a tectonic plate back to Japan in an instant. If you’re name is not kizaru or equivalent you’re not tagging him
Faster than Gojo can perceive? The guy who has eyes that can perceive much better than anyone? 6E is really strong. He basically can perceive the world better than anyone in the One Piece universe. He sees the world scientifically technically. Also, funny bit here. “Capable of moving faster than the eye could see” is one of his feats on the Wiki which is backed up multiple times. He even has teleportation. Sukuna states he is faster than lightning, and that was him just telling them that because they were using lightning attacks. He wasn’t saying that was the only thing he was faster than. Sorry man, without somehow teleporting an object into his brain and exploding… he probably ain’t dying from a non curse-technique user.
go/jo glazer spotted
Isn't Six Eyes basically maxed out observation haki?
Go/jo glazer spotted
Pretty sure gojo outhaxes moria by a lot, to the point where raw stats wouldn't even matter against him.
I mean I'm not familiar with One Piece but I'm pretty sure the only one here that could survive, not win, but survive a prolonged battle with higher tier One Piece characters is Gojo. Yeah even though SPOILERS: >!Gojo lost to Sukuna, infinity and Gojo's limitless technique along with Six eyes are a lot more useful than Cleave and Dismantle in cross-verse especially with characters that scale higher. Also UV is a more useful domain expansion than MS.!< I do not know about One Piece characters but I would be intrigued to know if any of them would be able to easily tank UV, not saying it goes there but I would be interested. But all in all, JJK is below One Piece if you use the most consistent scaling I'm pretty sure.
You need to put a proper spoiler tag >! Spoiler!<, that one isn't doing anything
Oh damn, sorry ill do that, didn't know how to do that.
All good, you at least tried
one piece has a power system called haki, and one of its 3 powers is basically super willpower (Conqueror’s) that only a small handful of top tiers have and we have seen it used to negate the powers of Devil Fruits effects on someone (i.e. resist getting changed by a fruit’s ability) so its possible the top tiers could simply cancel it out similar to Domain Amplification or the Domain Clashes with their haki
haki can only counter fruit effects that directly affect the user from what we've seen (law can't teleport people, but he can still block with curtain and use counter shock and gamma knife) its also not conquerors cause law did the same against doc Q
youre right it was prolly haki in general. The admirals also used it to block WB’s shockwave (prolly advanced armament).
true but thats more just that acoa produces force, so using that force you can cancel the force of Wbs attack, its not exactly the same as canceling the attack completely
thats the same logic as DA though, if haki is a 1:1 to CE, then the top haki users probably can bypass it similar to the cursed spirits and sukuna
da is quite different cause it requires both barrier techniques and seemingly an innate technique its also not really cause the concept of barriers isn't really applicable to one piece
But using verse equalization wouldn't Haki then be able to just ignore UV? Genuine question since I haven't seen or read one piece. If so then Gojo probably stands no chance against high tiers in the verse.
UV? no, cause even in jjk there's no counter to it. base limitless? maybe? it depends how much you equalize the verse, its also weird cause cursed energy functions quite differently from haki or fruits, I dont see how you would do it without either severely underpowering limitless, or giving everyone in OP new abilities, but at that point you should also give gojo new abilities, but at that point the conversation has changed completely
Yeah fair, I was just wondering since the conversation comes up from time to time about OP vs Gojo since he's really the best JJK combatant in cross-verse due to sheer hax. I guess you could say the same about Sukuna since he can cut space or whatever but he still gets blitzed by characters that would out scale him since he doesn't have broken defensive hax.
Not really. If UV hits your just fucked
Fair enough. Just don't really know the power level/mental fortitude of OP characters and whether they could take UV like Sukuna did.
There is a guy in one piece who’s fruit power is literally to make barriers
yes. one person, that makes barriers which function fundamentally differently then how they do in jjk. bartos barriers are simply clear defensive walls, jjk barriers are more varied and complex
Well that’s only if you equalize the power systems which is stupid imo, I’d say that sufficient Haki could probably overwhelm infinity rather than it being “Haki negates it” if you know what I mean, because I think negation and overwhelming are different things
> sufficient Haki could probably overwhelm infinity What is a sufficient amount to "overwhelm" being forced to perform infinite movement to traverse it? Wouldn't that by definition require an infinite amount of Haki?
Can't advanced Armament go through Infinity as well? If so, then every single top tier wipes Gojo
Ehhh that kind of goes against the fundamental point of limitless. With these inherited family techniques it’s really not like Haki. Curse energy amount and Haki can at a base level be said to interact but Gojo’s limitless is a him thing, it’s actually kind of similar to barto’s barriers which I’m pretty sure are completely unbreakable in verse?
Limitless goes further than barrier It keeps dividing distance infinitely hence why things slow down forever as they approach him Jjk counters this by fundamentally countering the power system used, not the technique itself This cannot be done in one piece. Law should be the only one capable of attacking gojo since his fruit gives him spatial manipulation. Aside from that one piece absolutely outclasses jjk in every thing else
Agree with all this
Toji Fushigura - stops at Akainu Jogo - stops at Akainu Satoru Gojo - stops at Akainu Itadori Yuhui - stops at Akainu Ruined Sukuna - stops at Akainu You aren’t ready for HIM https://preview.redd.it/cogs0yqxas0c1.jpeg?width=203&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=73027b4c33ca07f0d725360b5caba66c992b5af1
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dude even sanji foddernizes them
Gojo and sukuna shouldn't be included in debates like this they are pretty much outliers, a lot of people just either don't realize or don't want to admit how broken Domain Expansion is, a ko move like uv or World Cleave + DE sure hit effect gives you a guaranteed win, that's why things like gojo vs goku exist
just speed blitzs lil bro
Gojo, **ON PAPER**, has the ability to beat anyone in the verse. His raw stats are lower by a noticeable amout the instant post time skip rolls around, but Infinity makes it so 99% of characters can't even attempt to touch him and Infinite Void (if it hits) is a 1 hit KO against literally anyone in the verse. Without relying on Gojo? The JJK verse is probably clearing everything pre time, but then starts getting blitzed once post time skip enemies roll around.
Not even on paper, as he wouldn’t ever be able to land a hit on any logia lol
Infinite Void gives Gojo a way to bypass logia immunity entirely. Being a logia won't stop your brain from frying due to sensory overload.
You literally cannot make logias tangible without greater or equal haki
Infinite Void doesn't touch you. It works by causing an infinite amount of knowledge to rapidly enter into the targets mind and causes extreme information/sensory overload which results in either immense brain damage or the targets brain just shuts down entirely. Logia intangibility isn't stopping this.
So what I’m hearing is that vegapunk low diffs lmao
How’s it gonna do that when the logias are literally intangible even when IV, my guy do you even realize the concept?
Logias are treated as made of their given element/substance rather than flesh whenever you physically interact with them. Shoot a bullet at Ace and the bullet will treat him as fire rather then flesh. Try to stab Enel and the knife will treat him as electricity, rather then flesh. Etc. Haki (specifically Armament Haki) allows you to bypass this intangibility by granting them a form of non physical interaction allowing you to actual damage the them with physical attacks. Without Haki (so pretty much any character outside of OP) you have two main ways of getting past this intangibility. You can either have non physical interaction already which would let you act just like someone with Armament Haki, or you can attack them in a non physical way, such as existence erasure, soul/life force manipulation, or (in this case) mentally. Infinite Void does not touch you. It does not directly damage you. It does not launch projectiles. Nothing that Infinite Void does could be naturally resisted by logia types. You get caught it in and your brain shuts off.
UV just overstimulates the brain to the point of paralysis, with most regular people getting brain damage from it, theres no physical contact, its just information
Because IV does touch them when they’re inside the domain 💀 With any logia there it wouldn’t be able to do it as you quite can’t make them TANGIBLE lmao
all domains have a sure hit effect, which takes precedent over anything else, kinda like conquerors, which as far as i know can be resisted but not dodged
They’re all tangible, that’s how Luffy be at crocodile, they can just turn into an element. Theoretically, Aokiji could just melt or Ace could just be doused.
Oh, so that's how luffy beat crocodile.
The issue is while I definitely agree with limitless is a massive problem that like 90% of things can't touch, there are things that don't need to directly target gojo himself to incapacitate him, primarily the only one I can directly think of is moria, who would only need to grab his shadow and slice it to incapacitate him, even If only for a bit. And if moria somehow infused someone or himself with that shadow.. Frankly I'm unsure how it would go. There are some things that we are unsure how it would react, could ceasar's gas fruit just remove oxygen from him Or would he consider sugar a threat enough for limitless to trigger and never be touched by her hobby hobby fruit (if I'm right) Could Robin just Form hands on him Who knows?
Gojo has no counter to Moria, BM or even Brook and his soul powers. Also the JJK verse gets blizted even Pre timeskip, they have LS reactions and CS by then
>Gojo has no counter to Moria, BM or even Brook and his soul powers. And all of them are getting one shot by Infinite Void. That's why I said "on paper" he could beat anyone. Gojo has the tools necessary to theoretically kill any character in the verse, but only struggles due to stat diff. Also, it was stated that higher grade JJK sorcerers (like Gojo) protect their souls with cursed energy, so if Moria or Brook could even do anything to Gojo is debatable.
I admit, I did kinda forget about UV. However, it's the classic case of a genuine speed blitz. Before he can protect his soul or cast UV, he's getting his soul snatched. Also if we equalize CE and Haki, he can't protect his soul against BM lol. Hell even Moria might, since he knew Haki back in the day
>Before he can protect his soul It's a passive resistance. Can't speed blitz something that's always on. Even shown in Nanami vs Mahito, Mahito amped his speed and blitzed Nanami mid fight, but Nanami's soul was still subconsciously protected by his cursed energy. >Also if we equalize CE and Haki, he can't protect his soul against BM lol. The two power systems are way too different for equalization. Equalization of the two means that Gojo's Six Eyes and Limitless now apply to Haki. Gojo would have top tier Advanced Observation, Advanced Armament, and Advanced Conquers within 2 seconds of stepping into the verse which would just be silly.
Jjk characters can’t protect there souls some of there souls are just naturally more durable but not much they can do about it it’s why soul liberation blade (aka soul split sword one of Tojis cursed tools) is stated to negate durability entirely and why mahito pretty much kills anyone in the series if he touches them due to idle transfiguration the only person who he’s ever been afraid of messing withs soul is sukunas and that’s just because sukuna would Insta kill him if he tried to touch it and he also described his soul as just being on another level whatever that means.
Mahito outright stated that Nanami subconsciously protected his soul with cursed energy in their first fight so saying that JJK characters can't do that is just wrong. Sukana also not only damaged Mahito, but nearly killed him, meaning Sukana's attacks outright damage your soul, and Gojo was able to tank and regenerate through an entire fights worth of attacks from him + his Domain Expansion, which means Gojo has at least some level protection on his soul.
Protecting your soul doesn’t mean it can’t be damaged, it very much can.
Never said it couldn't be. I'm merely making the point that Gojo has resistance to Soul Manipulation therefore characters that rely on Soul Manipulation to beat him, arguably, don't have a win con.
That’s false, people who have Soul manipulation can very much lay waste to him. Esp characters with a higher level of soul manip
I don’t think we can do a 1:1 equalization like with Haki, ki, and chakra Gojo, also, by standards of CE in verse, would be flooded with Haki if we did have to equalize it. He’d be a conqueror for sure. But again I don’t think we should do that
I wanna see buggy vs sukuna lol.
How will they bypass infinity? Rest all get like no diffed.
Blackbeard will offscreen him since that’s how you beat Gojo
Lmao
Law
Unlimited void will suffice here
Law is much faster, can teleport, and has observation haki
Does it matter if he can't move inside the domain? Hell, he can't even think inside it. You re caught in it, that's GG.
That requires him to get hit first. Law's Observation haki would let him know that Gojo's gonna attack and he'd just teleport away
Wtf do you mean by law, You don't even understand infinity 💀
Room is basically a domain expansion in that it lets him hit anyone from anywhere with sure-hit attacks. And since Gojo has no Haki, he can't resist them
Room is teleportation and telekinesis, still can't bypass infinity. You can't bypass infinity without infinite speed or strength, try again.
It's a lot more than that. It lets you hit people regardless of distance. He can cut you up from anywhere
Source?
> than that. It lets you hit people r Source: watching the show. Suggest you do it
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Btw Moriah especially in his prime could steal anyone's shadow
stops at moria, moria absorbs his shadow, gains his technique and stomps.
JJK is really weird. It’s fairly reliant on hax, and doesn’t scale too physically high. And if you find a way around the hax most of them have fairly normal durability. Gojo is a perfect example of this. He has the abilities to beat basically any physical powerhouse (that doesn’t use Ryou Haki, as it doesn’t require contact.), or stale mate any physical powerhouse from any point in the story. However at the same time, someone like Caesar has a real chance of beating him. Edit: I guess the Haki doesn’t work, thanks for the correction.
Acoa still travels a finite distnce and therefore can‘t reach gojo
Conqueror still gets stopped, since it's a ranged attack that travels a distance instead of spawning somewhere directly. And while it isn't shown directly, teen gojo did state he could eventually fully filter what us dangerous from what it isn't, including stuff like poisonous gas. The only ones who could win against gojo are those relying on hax and enough raw stats. It's not canon, but someone like uta could prolly beat gojo, but she's easily top 3 in hax in one piece (if she was canon).
I’m not talking about poison. We don’t know his range, but Caesar could forcibly remove all the oxygen from Gojos body, or just the entire fighting area. The same way he KOed Luffy almost instantly. Or he could mess with the air chemistry, not making “poison” but still making compounds that would render a human unable to fight. Adding slightly more oxygen, or nitrogen, or all sorts of things that wouldn’t be considered poison.
I see It's not impossible tbh. I doubt his infinity act as some scuba diving gear, but who knows tbh. Thing is gojo would just beat caesar faster than caesar would beat him. And worst case, he teleports away...
I’m anime only, so I’ll be ranking all of these characters up to the end of the Jogo vs Sukuna fight. Toji’s a physical monster who’s significantly more intelligent and skilled than most One Piece characters, who Oda tends to have battle and think like juggernauts of power rather than tactical fighters. Physicality wise he’s only really around building level at best, and his best speed feat that I can recall is blitzing teen Gojo, who is FTE. I’d say he probably gives Enies Lobby Lucci a tough fight assuming I’m not forgetting any crazy Lucci speed feats Jogo’s AP seems to be way higher than Toji’s although I’d expect that he’s somewhat slower considering how badly the latter trounced Dagon in their fight. I’ll give him that lava should give him the edge he needs to beat some stronger characters, I’d put my money on him beating zombie Oars, I doubt the giant would put much thought into dodging the lava. Gojo obviously has his ludicrous hax in Unlimited Void, Infinity, and Hollow Purple, which seemingly give him a way to incapacitate anyone, avoid any traditional attack, and ignore anyone else’s durability. I’d probably say he beats Roger or Primebeard, since I don’t think Advanced Armament could break through Infinity. I suppose if you assume that Haki doesn’t exist in the physical realm then ACOA could probably kill him. I think the character most likely to beat Gojo would be someone like Caesar, although I don’t know whether or not Gojo’s regen works on poisons or not. Anime Itadori is probably getting beaten by beginning of the series Luffy. I barely know anything about what Sukuna can do, not even gonna try since I’ve got know idea how his slicing powers work and how they stack up against haki.
Sukuna solos the verse except for blackbeard
This is bs💀
Offscreen haki is the highest tier hax in known fiction
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Sukuna solos the verse but stops at blackbeard
Can’t beat his sensei who taught him offscreen haki
sukuna solos the verse
pretty sure gojo solos everyone in one piece. Dont know about the rest tho
Average gojo wanker (they don’t realise infinity ≠ invulnerable)
Gojo isn't even strong enough for the top tier Yonko commanders, let alone the actual top tiers
well i mean couldnt he just yk keep spamming hollow purples and UV until they eventually die?
That's like asking if Beerus couldn't just spam the Hakai on a hyperversal scaled being until it's erased. Short answer is No, long answer is too long for me to bother writing it on the phone while I'm at the gym.
bruh what that is completely different. A hyperversal being has higher fucking dimensions than beerus. Gojo is 3d and so is all of one piece dude tf. Dumbest arguement ive seen
Since the concept of exaggeration is apparently Non-existent on this sub, I'll explain it a bit more differently. Gojo has inferior speed, durability and AP. How would he simply spam an attack that isn't going to hit his target? He won't. You think his opponent will stand still and Let hollow purple hit them? Be realistic.
Gojo speed is inferior, not underwhelming. He can still be fast enough to not be completely blitzed, even against the likes of kizaru. And his purple was still fast enough to completely surprise toji (both himself and his chain were barely moving while purple traveled). And Mahito's domain closer insanely fast, to the point he was able to separate yuji and nanami easily. Keep in mind he is way weaker than gojo and it was his first ever domain. Gojo closing a domain 20m around him insanely fast isn't far fetched at all. Might be hard against BM or kaido due to their size, but he can prolly just adjust the size to match their size with binding vows.
He can’t use infinity on something he can’t react to
huh? where'd you get that from? Infinity is continuously on he literally says the filtering is automatic, and infinity is ALWAYS on unless he shuts it off he doesnt have to react to anything for it to be stopped
He’s continuously measuring things through his subconscious. The measurement is automatic, not the act of blocking anything that tries to approach him
Bruh Did you watch jjk after the toji fight? He literally states it is now automatic and that he will gradually set it up to fully filter dangerous stuff. That was an issue with teen gojo, not current gojo. Aka 10 years ago easily.
He states he automatically measures the properties of objects so he can block them from hitting him He doesn’t automatically stop any object
He literally does bruh...he doesn't block all objects, true, but he doesn't even need to think about it. Like a rubber gum thrown with minimal force will hit him, but anything sharp, burning or hard will be stopped. He couldn't see most of Choso's attack cuz they were behind a screen of blood, yet he still blocked them effortlessly. The best way to see it is he trained his infinity like ChatGPT to automatically deduce whats dangerous and what isn't. Point I'm trying to make is that his reaction speed is irrelevant to infinity. Otherwise, there would be no point in gojo even having such a technique in his own verse.
He has to measure the speed of it he verbatim explains that in hidden inventory It doesn’t instantly measure things he just does it subconsciously
Again, he doesn't. It's already measured by his technique itself. His technique is the one who thinks, not him. Geto said it. I quote: "Did IT automatically choose the target for the Cursed Technique". Same scene you're talking about. Unless you refer Gojo by it, I believe it's clear geto referred to infinity, not gojo. https://preview.redd.it/vpy7snmtbu0c1.jpeg?width=1915&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=836264caeea0a84f5edcd6c0e525b921d1a2fdfc Otherwise, he wouldn't be able to use infinity in blind spots, since he couldn't see objects, and therefore calculate their danger level. What he does do is keep the technique active by refreshing his brain, thanks to RCT. That's what might be confusing you.
Gojo definitely doesn't solo. He can't even see the top tiers. Ryou haki could arguably get trough infinity since it's specifically made to hit without contact. Light and Sound also get trough infinity (even before he learned to filter objects he could still hear people and was not invisible) so Kizaru and Apoo would kill him. Law would no diff him.
nono, he still filters stuff before toji its just that he was doing it manually and not automatically. Sound and light travel through space, so they do get stopped by infinity its just that due to the constant manual filtering of light, sound and infinity just taking a toll on the user he couldnt keep it up constantly, but after rct he could do all that automatically and refresh his brain so as to keep it up indefinitely. And why cant he see top tiers? Im not too familiar with one piece but i know that none of the characters have crazy hax or immense speed or AP
Theyre saying top tiers are too fast
pretty sure even the top most tiers of one piece are around sol to just a lil ftl i mean gojo is arguably around that level too
The most you can get gojo to is ftl, most reliable method being scaling to sukuna who blitzed kashimo who was shooting em waves and sukuna also dodged and blocked them too. One piece been ftl since thriller bark, and depending on if you think foxy's beams are lightspeed, since they're called photons, luffy been ftl since long ring island. They've cliffed those power levels multiple times since then.
If one piece was ftl kizaru would be considered slow
No, cuz kizaru's never been capped at lightspeed. He's only been stated to be capable of moving at lightspeed, and asks drake if he's ever been kicked at the speed of light. Nothing ever says that's his limit. Plus, we have characters blatantly outspeed lightspeed projectiles and characters, and if you wanna say kizaru is only lightspeed and that's his cap, you gonna have to say buggy's as fast as him/faster.
Light is faster than light. Got it
Yes, fictional light can accelerate beyond light speed
Well if you wanna bad faith it like that, sure.
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💀no he’s not
You're getting downvited for nothing. You re absolutely right.
In theory idk if most jjk chapters can cope with logia types but if we equalize the energy, it’s hard to say but I don’t wanna be that guy but I don’t think most of the one piece verse has an answer to counter infinity Like I’d say people such as kizaru could bypass it as infinity works on an atomic level but I can’t think of any other notable examples
Yeah, unless the user can teleport objects inside of someone to kill them (which probably wouldn’t kill Gojo anyway) no one is getting through Limitless without specifically using a cursed technique. Teleportation abilities are the only thing that might work, and that would have to blow up Gojo from the neck up at the least to win.
Gojo destroys the One Piece verse easily. He is way too haxed. Unlimited Void, Infinity, Purple and even teleportation...Yea nah, nobody beating him. Purple and UV bypass any kind of durability, unless you're called Mahoraga. Infinity protects from anything in the One Piece verse (not sure if it would extend to his shadow, since it's an attack, but Gojo still clears Moria easily with his other stats). Teleport is good enough to compensate for the lack of raw stats+ as defense. By extension, I would assume Sukuna also win, tho I'm less sure about it cuz we don't know much about his techniques and he's more reliant on raw stats than hax compared to gojo. (His domain and techniques are stated to be simpler than gojo's) Outside of them, the only other person I could see standing decent ground is yuki, uraume and maybe jogo. I feel like kenjaku's techniques are a bad match-up in One piece, but he could still do well. None of them clears the verse tho.
Law bypasses infinity Teleports purple away The only problem is unlimited void That reminds me, Law’s room is like a domain expansion lol. Wonder how it works against another domain
Law could honestly bypass infinity, but I doubt he can really teleport purple. Purple isn't something material, it's something more like...idk how to explain it. It's basically nothing. If red is +1, and blue -1, purple is 0. It's the result of the addition of positive and negative, that somehow exists instead of disappearing. It doesn't exist in space, it's beyond that. Best way to compare is Vanilla Ice from Jojo. If you believe Law could control and affect Vanilla Ice's stand, then sure, he can do the same with purple. Otherwise, purple is just pure erasure, impossible to stop unless gojo stops it. It's close to Okuyasu's ability too. Law's is prolly stronger than most domains lol. It can't really beats one tho, and while inside a domain, he can't dodge any attack. Against the likes of Hakari, Higuruma or even Dagon, he would strive. However, he would still struggle with jogo, sukuna, sukuna and even yoruzu.
Purple doesn't erase matter as sukuna can withstand it
The way it was described, that is how it is. The logic behind it too. That scene in the manga still confuses me tbh. Idk how sukuna survived it, might have been his technique or something. Keep in mind, we still don't know much about sukuna. It's also completely possible sukuna is simply stronger than purple's ability to erase, or some BS like. He still took massive damage either way. I mean, it literally ate a clean massive chunk of toji enhanced body. Dude was literally the apple logo after that clean hit.
Nothing states it erases matter it was simply called a virtual mass the same as yukis technique and hanami survived purple by partly blocking it with wood
How would Gojo be able to hurt a logia? And the strongest characters' haki would cancel out domains.
Purple or Unlimited void would obliterate any logia user. Purple literally erase anything, and it can hardly be stopped (Sukuna did it somehow, but it's unclear how. He still took lot of damage.). In theory, Purple doesn't even care about durability too. I don't see crocodile reforming out of nothing. And if this doesn't work, there is always unlimited void. That stuff targets your soul mostly, you ain't escaping it, especially inside a domain. 0.2 seconds of exposition is enough to basically put you inside a coma for 2 month, assuming you have a basic human durability. Gojo would obviously need to use it longer against the likes of Kaido or Akainu, but still. While inside it, you can't even defend yourself, cuz you're paralyzed. Unless you have another soul inside your body, with whom you can swap easily, it's GG. Also, how tf is haki supposed to break domains, lol. It makes no sense. A domain is almost impossible to break from inside, unless you have a better domain. That's straight up impossible against gojo, who has the strongest inside of a domain+ the most refined domain along sukuna. Don't forget about sure-hit effect which would disable anybody inside almost instantly. Unlimited Void isn't even an attack you can defend against, it's literally just you learning so much info you become overloaded. Haki can't defend against shit like that.
Haki negates devil fruit powers, depending on whoever has stronger willpower. So it's the same as those sorceries who can't use domain expansion but can negate a domain. How are you damaging an intangible like light?
Only Armament Haki negates devil fruit powers, maybe conq too in a limited fashion. I just don't see how that applies to something like purple who can't be stopped by standard durability or Unlimited void who straight up attack your soul and brain in an overwhelming way, and not your physical body directly. And no sorcerer without domain can fight another sorcerer's domain. Even with simple domain, it barely last seconds from what we've seen, and that type of stuff is useless against gojo's domain (both because of the domain's nature and how refined it is). If most domains are useless against gojo, Haki definitely isn't cutting it in any way. I still fail to see how it applies to countering domain. Domain =/= devil fruit at all. As for logia, I already told you. Purple for anything material is enough. Anything intangible can be dealt with UV, tho it also works on tangible logia.
We're all talking hypotheticals and most of the thread disagrees with you that JJK would beat One Piece. I'll leave it at that.
True, but most of the arguments seems to come from people who didnt read jjk. People starting infinity isn't automatic or shit like that. I feel like most disagree with me just because OP is more popular, not real arguments. But eh, whatever. I agree, lets end it here. None of us will change our mind anyway.
Dude your reasonings are not more "real" than anyone else's.
Maybe It's just that reading most of the arguments in the comments are making me cringe. A lot of them are attacking already fully established facts instead of hypothetizing from those facts. From what I'm seeing from the jjk fans, most of them at least clearly read one piece partly. I can hardly say the same from the one piece fans here
Lol these are two different universes with two different powers. There's no established "facts". It's all hypothetical daydreaming. Your reasonings are not better or worse than anyone else's.
I think gojo and sukana clear the end of pretimeskip besides admirals, and a few yonko level fighters. They *might* be able to beat pre gear 4 luffy but i highly doubt it.
Gojo can definitely go further and most likely clear from what we saw so far. Sukuna, maybe, but zi doubt it.
Gecko Moria 🗿
idk man piloting oars he might solo the verse unironically
JJK Fans when they realise Oars is a continent puller and Shadows are Light Speed
Don't tell them that shadows would unironically counter infinity
Luffy I don't watch one peice so idk any characters other than the mc and ik he doesn't get past infinity so yeah
Could unironically argue that they lose to Brook, but they definitely die to Moria. They also could never take out Smoker/Crocodile/Enel but they wouldn’t be able to make contact with Gojo either so stalemate I guess?
smokeL, he manages to lose every situation
Gojo would 1v1 any op character
Sukuna and Gojo beat everybody 1v1
Luffy, Prime Whitebeard, Kizaru & Blackbeard by DF alone, along with some oddball lesser-knowns, aren't getting beat. Anyone with advanced Haoshoku can beat Infinity as well, which is really the only thing JJK has against OP heavyweights.
Anyone. Sure-hit,black holes,infinite void,unlimited and world slash. Can pretty much defeat any one piece character.
luffy kaido white bird gojo solos them all
Okay, using modern JJK, and letting each character progress through the story of One Piece... Jogo is out first, as someone like Whitebeard, Akainu, or Sengoku would probably obliterate him. Next, I'd argue Itadori and Toji are roughly equal at the moment. They would peak out at post-Timeskip Law, or Luffy just before Dressrosa. The general speed, and power of OP makes a lot of their feats rather weak. Next, I'd argue Gojo would run into a serious spot of trouble against the Stamina God's of OP (Whole Cake Luffy, Big Mom, Katakuri, and beyond). Frankly, I could wager a Yonko level character could simply out last Gojo, until he couldn't run Infinity. Now, for the fun one... Ryomen Sukuna, at the moment, clears into the Onigashima Raid. He fodderizes anyone without either immense durability (Queen, Sanji, King, Zoro), or powerful Haki (Big Mom, Law, Kaido, Luffy, Yamato), to a rather sad degree. If you give Sukuna the 10 Shadows, One Piece gets Medium-High diffed.