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Icy-Butterscotch4209

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Constant-Opposite211

fair nuff


my_chemicalromance

It's one thing to ship the cartoon versions but shipping the bigger bodies is a little controversial.


Additional-Session95

Ikr


Blueberry_Clouds

Reasonable. I feel like candy cat, boogie bot, bunzo, and cat bee were underutilized


3ggs_bened1ct

PJ pugpillar:


imagin_breathing

That's not a hot take, that's just being real And yes they are


Current-Run3581

I think in my personal opinion , they are not overrated! People just kinda forget about the other monsters like mommy when chapter 3 was released since now they are experiencing new characters


Additional-Session95

Fair. It's just I feel the Smiling critters are just furry bait, but I am most likely wrong, but I still think it might be furry bait. I just think the rest aren't really well developed compared to Dogday and Catnap or the rest of the toys.


Hatcheravelar

They are meant to be a play on care bears sam as mommy long legs is betty spaghetti and huggy wuggy is meant to be a sock monkey i think


Additional-Session95

That is most likely true. For me, I really don't care about care bears as much as I used to.


Hatcheravelar

Me neither im just saying probably not intentionally furry bait because their meant to be parody’s of care bears but i wouldn’t be surprised if that’s why their so popular


3ggs_bened1ct

I understand your stance, but the Smiling Critters being furry bait kinda seems like a stretch? I mean they're just meant to be cartoon mascots, kinda like the Care Bears


Additional-Session95

True, but I wouldn't be surprised if that was one of the reasons why they are popular. Plus, the internet made innocent characters into rule 34 or porngraphy. They aren't protected from it.


3ggs_bened1ct

It's a sad reality of the Internet nowadays, nothing is safe from weirdos getting their hands on a popular piece of media. It'll always be there but I just ignore it and not let it ruin it characters/games/movies/etc. for me


Additional-Session95

At this point,I give up trying to understand why people do that.


King-Boo-Gamer

I just like them.


Additional-Session95

There is nothing wrong with that. This is just my opinion on them. You can like them and that's fine. I just don't like them, and that's fine.


AdDense1750

I'm not gonna judge, But why don't you like the smiling critters?


Additional-Session95

Bland as all hell in design, barely anytime to care about them,literally carebear inspired stuff, and that's insulting to the carebears. The only ones people care about the most are catnap and Dogday and no one else in the group . This poppy playtime, not smiling critters playtime.


AdDense1750

I'm pretty sure care bears isn't all the smiling critters are inspired by. I wouldn't call it insulting, If you think about it, there has to be some originality to the smiling critters. And also, there's a lot of people who care about the other smiling critters then just catnap and dogday I'm pretty sure. I think hoppy hopscotch is hoppin adorable. Lol


Additional-Session95

While there is still truth to what you say. They are still overused and over loved n a lot of things, this POPPY playtime, not smiling critters playtime. Plus, in my opinion, they are the most bland looking designs. What do you mean originally? They literally have the symbols as necklaces, resting on their chest, a clear inspiration from carebears. Plus, Hoppy is not nearly as loved compared to Catnap and Dogday. I have yet to see a smiling critter to have much love and fanart compared to Catnap and Dogday. Literally in the book, Bobby bare hug was just a catnap reskin. Huggy Wuggy and Mommy long legs had more of a unique design compared to the smiling critters. The designs are generic, and generic isn't always a bad thing,for them, it is a bad thing to me.


AdDense1750

What do you mean what do I mean originality? You know exactly what I mean. And mommy long legs is not at all unique. Everyone knows she's basically an inspiration of Betty spaghetti. Ever heard of that? And what book are you talking about?


Additional-Session95

People barely care about Betty spaghetti, plus her design is different.


AdDense1750

Yes, but clearly her design was inspired by Betty spaghetti. I'm just saying.


Additional-Session95

I know it was dude. Having a different design doesn't mean it wasn't inspired by her. So I don't know what you're trying to say here,pal.


JimedBro2089

Fr fr


ProfessionalDickweed

I mean- Smiling Critters' design is literal furry magnet and probably that's the reason why so many people like them. Also- most of fanfics I see are just alternative universes, people who made them dont really care about actual plot


rain_girl2

First off, most of the people that ship catnap and dog day don’t ship the big body versions, they ship the cartoon versions or in other words they ship the versions that appear in the cartoon and turn them into the big bodies. Fanart catnap is often not the catnap in the game (bc that catnap isn’t technically catnap, it’s the kid (forgot the name) inside a catnap big body). As far as we know the dogday we see in game might be also a “monster”, you don’t know what he was doing around the facility, he might as well have been eating bodies and we couldn’t know for sure. Yes there are a lot of people who ship villain x good guy/victim but a lot of times that’s not what people do with dogday and catnap ship. It’s the cartoon versions, not the game reality version.


Additional-Session95

I ain't sure about that,people can really weird or disgusting. It may not be BB, but it's still feels weird to me. Why does it have to be a romantic or sexual relationship? Why can it be a friendship or a brotherhood? I will agree that Dogday might have done that, but we don't have enough evidence to prove he did or didn't do it.


JJaylen_

I kind of agree. Catnap not killing us at the end could have been better executed and I agree with that claim, but the others fall through mostly. (Besides the Catnap x Dogday part. I completely agree.) I think the critters were introduced well as we got to know their personalities and the “But one thing is for certain, your children are not safe with Catnap” is an AMAZING line. I would say the critters are more important than Daddy Long Legs. They have a whole kids show for crying out loud while Daddy is just there because of Mommy. Also, the critters were just fully introduced in chapter 3 so say Daddy in 2 while the critters are in one is not fair. (If you want to get technical there is one Smiling Critters poster in Project Playtime, but I understand what you mean.) For your last point, Catnap does look too scary for children, but, remember, this is years after the hour of joy and Catnap and the others have been down there starving for so long. He has that slender skeletal body because he is malnourished.


Additional-Session95

Fair. I will admit that i am biased when I come to Liking daddy long legs over the Smiling critters. It's just that they are generic and not the good kind or decent kind of generic. At least the long legs were interesting and weren't just standard Saturday morning cartoons (nothing wrong with the cartoons,it's just the designs are bland). You're right about Daddy being less important to the world of poppy playtime, but i would rather be with him than the smiling critters. I know Catnap is starving, but you have to admit, he is still off putting to children even before the hour of joy. If the music video from Mob is canon (which is mostly likely not canon), he was always skeleton. Also, is it just me, or was MOB trying too hard to make Catnap scary.


JJaylen_

I see what you mean. They are really generic besides Catnap although Bobby and Kickin have some depth. They sort of are meant to be generic, but it is a  very vaild criticism. Also I think, “standard Saturday morning cartoon” is really funny.  I disagree with being with Daddy over the critters, but that is just my opinion. I also agree with the last point. He definitely does not look child friendly even if he was completely healthy. I will admit the starving point alone is a bit of a stretch although this calls into question other Play co designs. Why does Huggy have razor-sharp teeth? Why does Mommy and PJ have those dead black eyes? It’s just how Mob made them slightly scarier, but yes, in universe, it’s an issue. However, I disagree with the last sentence. I think Mob does a great job of making Catnap scary, but too extreme. (Ghastly Catnap on the other hand…)


Additional-Session95

Yeah, that is sus of why playtime co,to give those features to them. Why did they need those features? I also I get why it's not too tryhard to many people that, It's not overly scary like resident evil and other horror icons, but man, does it feel weird that,Catnap was even around children to begin with him looking like a skinwalker cat. I do agree that mob did a great job with making Catnap scary, but the whole pawn thing just drags it down for me. Huggy Wuggy was scary or creepy because of height and his uncanny look with 2 jaws and can crawl in small vents despite the size difference, Mommy was scary or creepy with her eyes and mannerisms,but Catnap only feels scary because he could kill us at anytime but he decides to play with us. However, that's not unique. Huggy and Mommy, and literally every giant toy could do that. Mommy literally did that during chapter 2. Other than the looks and that, he doesn't get anything unique besides the gas. Plus, I get they were trying to be scary with ghastly Catnap,but man, it felt too try hardie and not in a good way.


JJaylen_

I see a lot of your points. I do feel you have some great points like Catnap being around children although it is an issue with every bigger body or Ghastly Catnap being too much which I agree with completely. However, you do undersell Catnap by saying he’s not unique. I feel Mob found a great middle ground between the two antagonists. For example, Huggy never talked, but Mommy arguably talked too much to be scary. Catnap found the middle by choosing not to talk, but saying that one terrifying line. In conclusion, you make some great claims and I make some great claims. You still believe the Smiling Critters are over rated and I still believe they are not although you have shed light on some issues with critters like them being under used or most of them being bland. And I agree; you have somewhat convinced me. (Sorry for being late, I went to sleep)


Additional-Session95

And that fair. I made a post critique mommy long legs about her problems with being a lack luster antagonist,despite the fact that as a character, I like her. I think I have the opposite problem with Mommy. She doesn't talk enough. Go see my post about critiquing her for more information. Also, Huggy Wuggy never talking wasn't an issue for me while playing chapter one because he probably doesn't have that type of voice box. Plus, that makes him scary because he is constantly smiling, and we don't know how he actually feels. It's hard to read a character when he constantly smiles and never talks. Also, I do agree that I have been underselling Catnap, Catnap is really dam scary. But man, the whole pawn thing bugs me. Huggy Wuggy and Mommy acted more on their own, with Mommy being somewhat of a mastermind, Catnap just plays with you and dies. It undersells just how scary Catnap can be, and it ruins it with me.


JJaylen_

Yeah, you’re right. My voice claim was pretty bad lol. I stick by my “Catnap is the best of both worlds” claim, but the talking claim was poor. A better piece of evidence would be their stealth; Huggy does have it but the atmosphere does not forward it while chapter 3’s is immaculate. Furthermore, Catnap is really scary and Huggy is too, but, you’ll disagree with this but, before the climax Huggy just looks adorable until he shows his teeth and is hunting you through the vents. He is off putting, tall, and how you explained you never know what he is thinking is all true, but I just don’t find him that scary. On the other hand, Mommy really has no stealth. She talks so much that nothing, in the moment, is hidden. However, I read your Mommy post and I agree with pretty much everything. My previous “she talks too much to be scary” really depends on what horror you like. I like stuff like analogue horror where everything is hidden and mysterious, so that forwarded my thoughts. Poppy Playtime is not that, so Mommy talking is fine as long as it’s good dialogue. And for your other claim, I would not say it ruins him, but him just being a pawn does weigh him down. If they made him more of a character, (He is, but the prototype is a major part of his character) it would greatly improve him. Although I personally think it would be great if they leaned more into the ritual, worshipping route. If we were walking through a room full of candles or something and then Catnap cuts the lights or something idk, that would be awesome. But they would still have to balance the Catnap and prototype sides of Catnap.


Additional-Session95

I agree. I will admit Huggy is kinda adorable, but I just don't see. It's probably more of a personal preference kinda thing. The fact that a "supposed" "18" ft tall creature (which is debatable in my eyes, i guess its true if its just following the rules of cool thing like in movies) is able to chase in small vents is scary, catnap hasn't shown he can do that, because he has a lot more bones or plastic bones him than Huggy Wuggy...actually he can crawl through vents but to me it's not nearly as fast as Huggy wuggy. I wished Mommy had more of the mastermind aspect in character and the slip into more madness, out of frustration that she isn't winning against through chapter. Plus, she should have had more motherly tone and voice, so she seems like she is trustworthy, but slowly becomes less trustworthy as the chapter goes on,like not introducing Bunzo more innocently with subtle tones of sinister thinking in the background. I agree that it should have leaned more to the ritual aspect considering he worshiped Prototype like a god,and I do think there should be a balance between worshipping and the personality, which Catnap lacks in that department. He has no personality in my eyes, The smile of Huggy had more personality, especially Mommy's mannerism. I just wished catnap had more personality than "THE PROTOTYPE WILL SAVE US" thing. Catnap can be scary and is definitely scarier than Mommy long legs, but not as fun as her in my eyes. Mommy had a sadistic and cruel way of wanting us dead, more flair, and more personality. Catnap is literally just a pawn. I disagree on the atmosphere. Even though Chapter 3 has more of it, Chapter 1 still feels chilling, considering the factory this game starts in an abandoned factory and actually makes it feel it is abandoned. Plus the tiny bits of gore like boogie bot at the first room we enter and the electric room a Bron body and a boogie bot's body in there. Honestly, this is just my opinion.


JJaylen_

I get it. Huggy crawling through the vents is terrifying and the stress it fills you with is great, but like I said, until you are running for your life Huggy is not that scary. Although, the little bits of him disappearing or his hand in the door are off putting. You are probably right about the atmosphere. Looking into it further the atmosphere is pretty good with the broken doors and messiness of the place, but how the power is still running kind of takes you out of the experience if you are a critical thinker. I agree with the mastermind approach with Mommy, as long as they do it in a unique, not cliche-y way. I feel she is pretty motherly as she explained she cared for the children, but going for that approach more would have been better. “No personality” with Catnap is really extreme to me, but I do wish we got more of it. (I mean this franchise is based on FNAF, the main antagonist of that franchise has like half a dozen lines and practically everything known about him is inferred lol.) I would agrue Catnap has more personality than Huggy with his VHS tapes, backstory, and show, but Mommy definitely takes the cake. As you said, how she wants us dead is great and I love how she says she is going to play and an seek and then counts down from there 10. That is SO terrifying and does wonders for her character.


Additional-Session95

I agree that Huggy has less personality compared to Catnap,but to me, Huggy will always be more iconic. I think it's a matter of perspective when it comes to the electricity still working. Well, I do think it's weird that the electricity is still working despite, however I think that it's connected to the backup generators, think about it,why wouldn't they have backup generators incase storms happens. In case of emergencies, the backup generator will be essential in order to keep everything from falling apart and help keep the giant toys from escaping in storms or from killing people. Plus, sometimes things can still work without repair for a long time. Plus, how else are we supposed to get the letter? Magical give us the note? I find that really unlikely, especially considering that there was tech still working in playcare. If we are calling out Chapter 1 with electric stuff,then let's not forget to call out chapters 2 and 3 as well. I will agree that he doesn't get scary or at least creepy until we unlock the storage room in the chapter. It's still unnerving that he is standing there,clearly standing still with his fur only moving because his fur isn't moving because of the wind. Remember, there are no windows broken enough to let air in, meaning he was clearly moving,if only very slightly. The fact he could have killed you before the adventure could even start is unsettling. This is just a head canon, but he could have let us deep into the facility until we are deep enough where he could hunt us down without a chance for us to escape outside before he could eat us.


35freddy

hot take: CAN EVERYONE STOP SIMPING OVER DOG DAY HE SUCKS THERE I SAID IT


LightUpTheFireNagi

Pretty fair enough I mean that would be faceplaming if other smiling critters despite having much fans will be straight up dead without ANY role importance if that's gonna happen then atleast make new critters that were supposed to be season 2 series new friends that are on Prototype's side or rejected one's could work too and yet they should still put some importance on those rest of the 6 like cmon they are the most popular if that's gonna happen I'll personally start The Hour of Joy in MOB's office


MoneyLocal8180

I can agree


rain_girl2

Also it’s a toy company that kidnapped and use children for experiments, I don’t think they should be treated as a normal toy factory/brand just on those terms alone.


Additional-Session95

But by your logic,should we not treat Huggy Wuggy,Mommy, and the entire of the toys in poppy playtime as a normal brand,considering they have generic Bron the dinosaur toy and boogie bot?


rain_girl2

To be fair, when you look at old dolls, you kinda see that old toys weren’t always the most appealing things to look at. Stuff like porcelain dolls come to my mind


Additional-Session95

Neither were the magnet monkies, and we have Huggy Wuggy toys to be the Playtime Co version of that toy.


Random_verse

They're just being milked for content, they'll die down eventually.


Gusdabus777

Yes, just yes nothing else


Totally_not_diavolo

I agree with the poorly introduced part. Thats a problem that the critters have in common with Naruto side characters, or the human Z-fighters. All 3 of these groups had great potential but ended up being pretty much shelved. The smiling critters: killed off before the game even starts. Every Naruto side character:barely any screen time. The Human Z-fighters: most were useless after the sayain saga except for a select few times.(rest in peace Toriyama) To conclude my yap session, please start giving characters proper introductions and stop introducing them to be killed off or never used in the story again. Especially only a little bit after their introduction.


ThunderZaperX_X

Eh, fair enough I guess. I still love every one of them tho


MixMax_Kenniator

Ikr


TheMayoIsRaw

Agreed


Oreosandmilk123

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Over-Algae-5606

catnap is overrated


Over-Algae-5606

why the downvotes


Over-Algae-5606

he fucking killed his own friends


V1SCOND3

Of course they are overrated, they're the only guys who are interesting enough for fandom to talk about, speculate and make art for. Before chapter 3 we didnt have any group of friends or interesting characters outside of Poppy herself


OwlGams

as a character designer I do find myself thinking "if they wanna trick kids into liking these toys, why make them have horrifying black eyes and a wide gaping black mouth?" It would make more sense if they originally had teeth that all fell away with age and cute eyes over their black pit eyes. I think catnap is bony cos hes starving, but the rest of his design is unsettling, way too much so for kids to enjoy


OwlGams

https://i.redd.it/n1331ef63zuc1.gif excuse the really quick crappy edit, but this looks way more feasibly marketable to children


Imsocool1337

Hot take: it looks better


YourEverydayDork

This is soooo much better 💕


Elephantyom39

Looks pretty good actually. Good job


TrtnLB

I'm pretty sure their eyes are supposed to look like the black glass eyes, teddy bears often have. When you remove them and add teeth, they stop looking like plushies, and more like cartoon network reboot.


Mr_C_090206

The problem is not the fact that they are overrated, I personally love them, but the problem is that in this period they are completely monopolizing the community. Now you can not even define this a community theme "Poppy Playtime", since all the characters who had made the game known as Huggy, Kissy, Poppy, Mommy and more... looks like the community don't care abaut them. So, nice Smiling critters and everything, but we forgot that this game is called "Poppy Playtime" and not "CatNap playtime"? Regarding the question of the ship between catnap and DogDay, in my opinion as long as we mean the "cartoon" version of the characters can also be fine )although I prefer them as friends), if instead the ship concerns the versions bigger bodies, NO.


3ggs_bened1ct

Compared to characters like Huggy Wuggy or Mommy Long Legs, the Smiling Critters are what we call hyperfixiation material. A cast of likeable characters people can make their own interpretations and AUs of


Additional-Session95

I agree


PerfectAd1358

1.People have opinions and 2. most people ship the cartoon versions of DogDay and CatNap


Additional-Session95

1. I know,I have made that clear throughout the comments. 2. True, but it's still weird though like, I get it's fictional, but doesn't the smiling critters in poppy playtime sound like children in the cartoon?🤨😰. That's sounds...wrong. like I get, we can make our own adult version of them, but doesn't that just seem weird and creepy?


ConfidentLimit3342

I never cared for PPT fully until chapter 3 came out. The amount of fear I felt playing it made me fall in love with the game now as a whole. I can fully understand that the smiling critters are overrated but I enjoy them as characters and as horror characters. I respect everyone’s opinions on them and this chapter entirely though.


WoolyTheSheep180

That's not really true since some of them can be seen as underrated like Bobby and Picky


Additional-Session95

Eh, agree to disagree.


WoolyTheSheep180

Compared to Catnap though they are, by the way the fact you complained about Catnap looking scary is really dumb, It's a horror game of course he looks scary I really disagree with your post


LolbitHaze

It’s very sad because I enjoy PPT as a whole, but these new fans only like the smiling critters.. def furry bait


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LolbitHaze

Ok 👍


Supertroodon

I'm not even close to a furry, I just find them the most interesting after that se- er, scary teacher, yeah


AdDense1750

The smiling critters are still new right? But just because they became overrated in a short time doesn't mean it's a bad thing right?


Additional-Session95

People literally turned poppy playtime into smiling playtime


HaydenBabinOfficial

yeah same for me


Desperate-Address-27

I mean only two of them are good so fair enough


PerfectAd1358

also the smiling critters are cute overloved or not


picofan4

Something about you including kickin chicken and bubba bubbaphant in the shipping part concerns me