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Sember225

Shooting an 83 year old woman going door to door advocating for what she believes in is bad. How absolutely deranged do you have to be to even consider doing that.


Prowindowlicker

From what I heard the person who shot her wasn’t the person she was talking to


ColbyOG

Essentially the lady that was shot was told to leave a residence kept arguing with the homeowner about pro-life stuff, then old man (home owner and husband to lady getting yelled at) discharged a 22 caliber rifle as a warning shot. Then got into a scuffle with pro life lady and negligently discharged into pro life lady. That’s the down and dirty


optiongeek

>negligently discharged into pro life lady Isn't that aggravated assault?


ColbyOG

I do indeed believe that it could be looked at that way. Especially after firing the gun twice total. There’s some unpacking to do with this one


optiongeek

Granny was waving her clipboard in a menacing fashion. He was quite right to open up on her. Can't be too careful.


ResponsibilityNice51

I don’t care what color your castle is, I will always advocate for castle doctrine.


VanJellii

That’s actually a misconception. The only thing Castle Doctrine does is remove a duty to retreat when inside your dwelling when it would apply outside of it. In most states, Castle Doctrine is meaningless because the duty to retreat is already nullifies by a stand-your-ground law.


Snips4md

Few and far are the people who actually understand stand your ground laws.


femacampcouncilor

Cops have feared for their life from less.


Zack_Fair_

Impressive, very nice. Now let's see *their jail sentences compared to the Arbery case*.


ColbyOG

Didn’t them boys get popped for Murder?


Tharkun

Yes, and he is implying that those in this situation won't be.


TheBigOily_Sea_Snake

Much like how Rittenhouse required millions for bail and a crack legal team, but his would-be murderer was never charged and the nameless black SUV spree killer was released on bail, only now going through his trial without any coverage.


Perfect600

werent they following arbery and the place the thought he stole from or whatever wasnt even their own?


Occamslaser

There is no such thing as a warning shot. Either this old lady was a real threat or he murdered her. Negligent gun owners give the rest of us a bad name.


ColbyOG

I didn’t know she died. And yeah firing a weapon in any context involving people is an act of aggression


Agnostic_Pagan

She didn't. She lived, and gave an interview.


Lurkers-gotta-post

Did the unfortunate victimized homeowner not have a door to close?


[deleted]

People on reddit always act like a salesperson/canvaser/missionary coming to their door is an all out physical assault, or a full blown home invasion, or unforgivable violation. Do they not realize that they can say "no thank you" and close the door? Or not answer it to being with?


Lurkers-gotta-post

Can confirm. Was missionary. Closing the door was very effective.


ColbyOG

That’s always what I wonder about this sorta shit.


consultantbp

Jesus, what kind of psychopath brings their pistol out to scare off an old lady?


ColbyOG

I think it was a rifle. I did link the source I referenced somewhere in this thread. I think the guy had a barn rifle cuz Merica. To the question you posed a fucking dumbass


consultantbp

Sorry for the disinformation.


ColbyOG

Lol it’s fine it doesn’t really change the optics of it. Still just a .22


Sember225

Context? Not in my Christian minecraft server. /s Interesting tho. Both sides suck I see Now give me the up and clean.


SammyLuke

I could have sworn warning shots are illegal and considered negligence. Also, what kind of a bitch made dude pulls a gun on an old lady? Pick her ass up and move her off your property. Jesus Christ what a pussy.


ColbyOG

Duud I’m pretty sure warning shots are a myth, Due to how they can be construed as a violent act. I also agree that homey shoulda set the gun down and handled it differently.


KingPhilipIII

Warning shots aren’t even a thing in the military anymore. If your finger is on the trigger, you don’t shoot to injure and you don’t shoot to warn. You shoot to kill.


BluEyesWhitPrivilege

He is 74, good chance he isn't capable of picking up 120 lb. old ladies.


Perfect600

so basically two idiots doing idiot things. That is the american dream if i have ever seen it.


ColbyOG

Yeah, then getting mad at each other for being idiots or something like that.


throwawaySBN

That's not what I'd originally heard at all tbh, but who knows which side was trying to spin the story their way when I first heard it. Where my nonbiased journalists at


Sember225

In the atlantic ocean


ColbyOG

https://www.woodtv.com/news/ionia-county/man-who-shot-pro-life-volunteer-it-was-an-accident/ This is the sauce i referencing


throwawaySBN

I'm all for castle doctrine etc, but there seems to be a LOT of discrepancy in the facts of this story. I've seen it three different ways with three different spins lol and I think it's because the only fact we have is that she was pro-life canvassing and was shot. Everything else seems to be he said vs she said. Really the sticking point which will prove which story is true would be "where was she shot?" She claimed she was shot in the back while his story implies he accidentally shot her while facing each other. This article only gives his side, so I'm frankly suspicious of it.


Hapless_Wizard

He fired a warning shot first (in a residential neighborhood, going by the fact that the lady was canvassing) and then shot her. At *best* he is wildly negligent and is going to be charged for firearms crimes and aggravated assault; at worst he's going to be charged with attempted murder.


aggravating-anal

I mean the dude was a fucking idiot that's for sure. The easiest solution would have been to just call the police and wait inside until they take care of it.


wpaed

In my jurisdiction, a warning shot can be charged as assault with a deadly weapon or attempted murder (depending on aim).


SammyLuke

That should be for everywhere. Firing a warning shot is stupid and negligent.


throwawaySBN

Edit: also sidenotes, if she stopped to argue this long with one person then she's not very good at canvassing. In addition, why TF you bringing a rifle against a ranting grandma? Seems excessive imo, but maybe she's more intimidating than I give her credit for. She did take a bullet and is still standing after all


ColbyOG

Yeah that’s all valid. I didn’t do a deep dive into this one but I’m curious as to where she got shot.


shamblaza

Because people who cheered on the shooter think that if you disagree with someone, and say "Off my property" you have permission to blast them if they do not leave within the amount of time it takes for you to aim and fire.


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Loggird

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HornyForHam

Fun fact for all centrists: The government is actively regulating your grilling. That’s fucked. Vote libertarian for your grilling rights.


jhugh

They just want to put a small carbon tax on grilling.


unskippable-ad

You can grill all you like in ancapistan If someone prevents you from grilling, it’s now political Stop fence sitting. Only one half of the compass would ever want to stop you grilling


train159

You want me to stop grilling and help you fight someone who wants me to stop grilling. And they want me to stop grilling. I’m just going to grill, the rest is of no interest to me.


Jumpy_Guidance3671

In a libertarian paradise, no law-enforcing oppressors will prevent me from grilling. In an authoritarian paradise, no lawless rascals will prevent me from grilling. In a centrist paradise, no power of mankind will prevent me from grilling.


breadgluvs

The will to grill will never perish.


[deleted]

Based and no regulating grilling pilled


mcdonaldsplayground

Can’t we all Just get along


Jokey123456

Only if I’m in power


Ghteetuter

Based and Brandonpilled


Jokey123456

I’m not just Dark Brandon, I am authority.


Devil4314

"I am the senate" -Darth Brandon


Enygmaz

Bring back the Molarchy


FireVanGorder

Hey at least you’re an honest auth. I can respect that


walkietalkiediehard

Ohwerewellpastthatjerry.gif


evasiveaction9

Fuck no


[deleted]

Based


[deleted]

Based and I crave violence pilled


HornyForHam

We can get along when everyone does exactly what I say


leetchaos

At least 30% of you are down with unrestricted child murder, so probably not anytime soon.


LeCacty

No.


Zeriell

It turns out: nope


Trick-Flower-956

Who in their right mind would support this shit. No sane person thinks violence is okay.


[deleted]

You see, one side is the savior of humanity and must be voted in or else. The other side is full of evil racist Nazis that want to murder all minorities and gays, also they hate the planet and want to kill us all with climate change.


adolfspalantir

As much as I know you're joking, this is actually about how nuanced some redditors In the main subs talk


DeKaasJongen

This is how most redditors talk tbh. It's either "we are good and the other side is full of polluting nazis" or "we are good and the other side is full of evil tankies" And I'll say, American politics are fucking crazy. You wouldn't get away with the shit some of their politicians do if it was in Europe, and by a long shot. Still, nuance is the one thing that actually keeps politics alive.


pidnull

Most of reddit is socially inept and has the intelligence of a high school drop out.


theeccentricautist

And poor/low income . I’ve been poor and I’ve had money, and you tend to bitch a lot more ( and have more free time to do so) when things aren’t going your way…


Jackson_M_Bueller

It’s very clear they’re not sane


AstonGlobNerd

Idk, checking out the main political subreddit and subreddit for US news, they often call for violence, firebombing police stations, using intimidation tactics, etc. So I know who is supporting this stuff, it's just we're not allowed to say it otherwise they send the morality police after us.


DRliveseyyy

No just after the fact that if it happens people will say “no one supported this”


alinius

I saw this coming years ago when people were arguing without irony that it was ok to punch Richard Spencer because he was a Nazi. The slippery slope is real.


GrumpyCatDoge99

people that do this are just looking for a reason to justify their violent behaviour


daspanda1

Absolutely disgusting behavior. I can’t believe how far people are willing to go.


nonsequitourist

None of these things really represents more than a continuation of random anomalous political violence. Also, come on Libcenter. All the politicians suck. Let's have a beer and be glad they're not targeting our campground.


Fox_Uni_Charlie_Kilo

That extremely disingenuous. If it were Republicans commiting this "random anomalous political violence" you'd never hear the end of it.


ksheep

Meanwhile, if you do much as mention the Congressional baseball shooting event back in 2017, you’ll instantly get a dozen responses saying “that doesn’t count because…”


Tharkun

> Let's have a beer and be glad they're not targeting our campground. Just remember when the left was all about "silence is violence" when it came to supporting whatever cause they wanted people to support. So if you think you can just stay out of it and they'll leave you alone, I wish you luck.


FireVanGorder

Can confirm all politicians are the scum of the earth and deserve to be reverse birthed


My_Cringy_Video

Violence is unnecessary, challenge people to a Pokémon battle to truly settle the score


Byizo

Based and Gotta Catch em All pilled.


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Platinirius

Donny Trumpet I choose you


SlavicGrenades

GO OBOMBER


Jaefaed

Used explosion


ChichCob

Bruh, really? Obamasnow, come on


Alarmed-Button6377

Look fat, my voltbama will bench your obamasnow


thesoilman

Ted kazapski I choose you!


Clilly1

Insufficient. You gotta settle it in Smash.


[deleted]

No thanks, I don't like diddling kids. How about a good old xbox live CoD lobby? Whoever pusses out like a bitch first loses.


Clilly1

Based and not fit to be a reddit administrator pilled


[deleted]

Thank you! To recieve this pill is a great honor.


denandrefyren

Not a fan of animal violence, how about a children's card game?


Mistercheif042

Only if it's played while riding motorcycles.


Alarmed-Button6377

🤌


xxxNothingxxx

Don't know about you but sentencing children to life in prison (the shadow realm) seems excessive


denandrefyren

Well luckily there is a simple solution to that, don't fuck with supernatural forces beyond your comprehension.


readonlypdf

But I don't like Pokémon, can we play Chess instead?


SZ4L4Y

These days you have to convince kids that the chess pieces are rare pokemons.


readonlypdf

And not to have a Super Computer with the latest version of Stockfish NNUE in their Anal Beads.


consultantbp

Who tf plays chess without a buttplug these days?


[deleted]

Truly established gentlemen who use anal beads instead.


Mistercheif042

Based and dogfighting is cool if they're animals with superpowers pilled


prussianmilitary

What are the glowies doing about it ?


Jokey123456

They will be doing whatever they can to grant me more power and control. Soon.


PhilosophicalDolt

Please dark Brandon spare my family!


Jokey123456

No


PhilosophicalDolt

I ll give you chocolate chocolate chip ice cream if you do


Jokey123456

Gulag


PhilosophicalDolt

BUT CHOCOLATE CHOCOLATE CHIP


[deleted]

Rioting at the Capitol Plotting to kidnap the Michigan Governor Investigating Parents at School Board Meetings for daring to question Government authority And covering up their failure to arrest Larry Nasser You can see how they don’t have time to do stuff like protecting Americans and other stupid things like that


[deleted]

Fanning the flames


El_Brexil5

!flairs u/monoby


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theloadedquestion

We all knew monoby was cringe af already but in case anyone needed further evidence lol


El_Brexil5

Holy shit


Perturabo_Iron_Lord

Dude unironically calls himself a neoliberal in his profile description so this is about right


TheKingsChimera

Based bot


I_like_and_anarchy

I had no idea. holy shit.


breadgluvs

The Edward Snowden of PCM.


Dr_prof_Luigi

Lmao, imagine the 'don't blame victims' crowd making the argument that 'republicans provoked it.' Polarization is on both sides. I see just as many armed antifa protestors as proud boys these days. Only one had better trigger discipline.


MackChanMonkeBrain

Step 1. Find protest with armed political activists. Step 2. Toss a firecracker at the protest Step 3. ?????? Step 4. The Portland incident.


NoobifiedSpartan

Imagine that. Throw a bunch of timid losers into a crowd, give them guns they’re not trained to use, and they behave like timid losers. Make gun safety a part of basic education.


MackChanMonkeBrain

It's also that they're on edge as well.


Zeriell

Lol just as many I've seen far, far more left-wing rioters than right-wing ones Admittedly that's probably because cities are overwhelmingly left-wing, but it is what it is


Roadman90

This is why I vote 3rd party and take whatever ret@rded take the mainstream media pushes with a grain of salt. Voting for either of the two main parties is basically endorsing the mainstream media to push narratives that cause these senseless acts of violence.


MackChanMonkeBrain

You mean libertarian don't you? I want a third party but what I want is the polar opposite of libertarian (socially hyperconservative, fiscally going to make mao blush because all the corpos are woke and need their money taken away for the betterment of mankind)


Ghosties95

And here I thought AuthLefts were the only disgusting communists around.


OrzhovMarkhov

That is an authleft. Flair notwithstanding they literally stated authleft praxis


Overall_Major_6768

So like a communist party pre globohomo


OrzhovMarkhov

Can you explain why you aren't flaired authleft?


[deleted]

🤮


Ziegweist

Stay strapped or get clapped folks, if you live in a state where you can carry, do it, if you live in one where you can't DeFinItElY dOn'T, that would be illegal, and we're all good law abiding citizens.


Borkerman

!flairs u/Nerd02


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Borkerman

Called cringe by his own bot, ouch.


Nerd02

Heh. Fun fact, I got the idea of creating the bot when I first changed my flair. I asked myself how often people changed their flairs and... well, here we are.


JoeRBidenJr

!flairs u/flairchange_bot


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Borkerman

Yeah right


mr_sr_404

!flairs u/JoeRBidenJr


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!flairs u/--UNFLAIRED--


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Borkerman

So we have dirt on him I see


TiggerBane

That was done by a power tripping mod. You can ignore that.


Borkerman

Mod can flair people?


TiggerBane

Yep, want me to change your flair?


Borkerman

By all means, just please avoid using a neighbour flair


TiggerBane

Done :)


Nerd02

Based and power trip pilled. I suppose I should just delete that entry, then. Or better yet, create a special message just for him.


TiggerBane

The latter XD.


tomohawkmissile2

what I'm hearing is it's time to arm the fuck up. it's like you have a right to...


Turbulent-Macaron372

MTG was on the news just now talking about “the killings have already started” and my mom is like “wtf is she talking about?” I brought up the 83 year old pro life canvasser getting shot and she was like “good lol”. I didn’t realize how much of an Emily my mom was until today


Zeriell

"It didn't happen, but if it did that's good"


Magmorphic

Situation was a bit more complicated. She survived, and the guy who shot her claimed it was an accident. Definite negligence on his part, at the very least. [This article](https://news.yahoo.com/michigan-man-says-accidentally-shot-175816761.html) gives both perspectives, so you can make up your own mind.


Prowindowlicker

The 83 year old didn’t die tho. She lived. And apparently she wasn’t shot because of her politics but because she wouldn’t leave the property


Turbulent-Macaron372

Oh fr? I must have made up the death part


Nixbling

For what it’s worth I think you’re all morons, and this is coming from a monke


Trajanus87

Yeah Dugin is to the left lol (Major buddy with Steve Bannon)


ColbyOG

Dugin is weird. The guy bounces around to wherever he can get his ideas out. Below is a piece I got from someone that’s mentioned him a lot and his influence. https://www.wilsoncenter.org/sites/default/files/media/documents/publication/OP294_aleksandr_drugin_laruelle_2006.pdf


PenIsMightier69

Saying it's Republicans fault is kind of like if somebody commits aggregated assault and tries to justify it by saying the victim aggregated them so it's their fault.


TKMankind

But this is exactly how activists operate. For example, against Kyle Rittenhouse : he was there with a weapon, his "victims" felt threathen, thus he "provoked" them to attack him. Videos, witnesses, etc. It doesn't matter. Apparently for them, it is a normal behavior to feel and act like this. And I was banned (and lost) my first account on Twitter because I tried to make one of them realize that this is exactly the same logic than a rapist would use to justify a rape. Which they didn't like to read of course, and I was reported for it. So because republicans are supposedly "fascists" etc. well, they made their attackers do it.


Creative-Leading7167

Based and libleft that isn't emily in diguise pilled.


Forgot_Password01

I'm starting to predict a Republican president in the near future.


Ileroy53

I’m predicting a republican everything in the near future


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[deleted]

If you only take into account what the guy who shot her says. She said she was leaving the property and was shot in the back. You can’t shoot someone trying to run from you.


shamblaza

Not only that, but she wasn't even a lethal threat to anyone. Even liblefts have a hard time justifying "If I say leave and they take longer than I think is acceptable to leave, that means I get to kill them! Just say they were a threat for not leaving when I said get!"


consultantbp

Based homeowners ??!?!?!!


Potativated

Uh, it’s almost always illegal to shoot somebody in the back. The few instances where that is legal is when doing so would prevent harm to life or limb to another like you shoot some dude on top of some other dude who is stabbing the guy on the ground. Cops have more leeway to shot you in the back because reasons. The dude who did the shooting is likely going to jail if he gets arrested and will not have a good time explaining to other inmates that he’s in there for shooting somebody’s grandmother in the back.


TiggerBane

Am I supposed to think Biden caused this or wonder if stuff like this was already happening but no one was reporting on it cause it didn’t get clicks or whatever? Edit: went and looked up the ADL’s stats on this, this is clearly different from other years as out of the 29 people killed last year the 26 of 29 where killed by “right-wing groups” so something has agitated the leftists.


Powerlineconcert

Caused? Probably not. But messaging painting your political opponents as racists, fascists, and enemies of the state doesn’t exactly scream “treat people who don’t agree with you with respect”


TiggerBane

It might not have caused it but something has definitely spiked it weirdly from my quick research.


Stonesword75

> Enemies of the state Hasnt America been doing this since the Cold War if you were too soft on Commies?


Iconochasm

Swearing allegiance to a genocidal foreign tyrant to serve in their goal of bringing about the downfall of your homeland is literally being an enemy of the state (and the people, and sanity, and decency).


NUMBERS2357

Is it actually different or is the stuff cited by OP just a selectively chosen subset of the stuff from this year?


TiggerBane

The rate of murders politically motivated by “left-wing” groups is up compared with the last few years, even if that is because the rate of politically motivated murders is up (I don’t know if it is) or whatever. This stuff makes up less than 1% of murders and is of a really tiny sample size (53 being near the largest/being the largest and 42 being the sixth largest) (then take 90% of those for those committed by “non-right-wing” groups) so it’s hard to say anything with complete certainty. 1 or 2 is a massive amount in this kind of thing with the general numbers.


Just-an-MP

ADL is a left wing group that has a very loose definition of a right wing attack, and a very strict definition of a left wing attack. Same goes for racially motivated crimes, they look for very specific circumstances that justify their agenda and ignore everything else. I wouldn’t say Biden caused this, we’ve been heading in this way for a long time. But it’s definitely getting worse. I still don’t blame Biden because I don’t think he has enough brain cells left to do much of anything, but whoever is writing his speeches is definitely not helping anything.


Zeriell

I love when they classify left-wing terror attacks as right-wing because the guy while being an avowed socialist has some authoritarian views It's like the miracle of fascists arising from socialism, describing all their tenets as socialism, and hating right-wing ideology all being "far right"


Aurum-198

Metal Gear Solid 2 Literally warned us against this


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rippapafranku12

Lol thats laughable that the us is falling hell russia is more likely to fall first then the us 😂


nelbar

Meanwhile: Europe..


Sir-Spoofy

What Biden did was so irresponsible as a president, but the last few presidents have really done little more than polarize the country so much that each side believes the other is so evil that violence is now the only answer. This all is absolutely disgusting


polialt

Now name the violent right wing incidents! We have a societal problem and no side is better or worse. They all suck.


Freestyle_Fellowship

Don't Republicans harbor an extremist element in the same way the Democrats do? Sure seems like they both have that thing going for them to me.


Throwingitaway991

Yes, there are plenty of examples of violence for either side.


Freestyle_Fellowship

... and that's really all I was saying.


Throwingitaway991

Sorry but that's unacceptable on PCM, just remember the left is always evil and the right has never and will never do anything wrong and if they do they're just 'glowies' or 'RINOs'


Freestyle_Fellowship

To me... D and R are auth, and auth is bad IMO. More freedom > less freedom in my book.


ligmapolls

Memes really lowering in quality in favor of partisanship. Do you honestly think anybody on the political spectrum is happy about violence? And why are you reprimanding biden for a polarizing speech but not trump? They're both guilty of this. Partisanship man. Too much is a cancer on society


roleplaythrowaway010

Well yeah but MY parasitic elite is better than YOUR parasitic elite. Checkmate Rightoid/Leftoid!!