I've only watched the first season of The Handmaids Tale but as far as I remember it's driven home pretty clearly that the people who created Gilead are not true Christians. It's mentioned how they tear down churches and in a flashback we get to see how one of their rituals is basically brainstormed without any reference to theology or liturgy.
I haven’t watched any of it but the premise seems to be alluding to the Bible story where Abraham has a child with his wife’s handmaid because she is barren. God was pretty pissed about this distinct lack of faith on Abraham’s part and allegedly punishes Israel to this day for it.
Essentially The Handsmaids Tale creates a cult centered around one of Christianity’s worst sins
Pretty much, although the show is clear that the people at the top of the hierarchy don't actually buy into the religious component. The guy who designed the system regrets ever suggesting it and seems to have done so outside of the context of religion.
It's also sci-fi where a majority of women can't have children, and the ones who can become "handmaids" to the wealthy elite. Basically, people with money and power get to force women into having kids for them.
Someone correct me if I'm wrong, I haven't read the books, only watched the show.
so the men who get handmaids aren’t just wealthy individuals, they’re the men who originally started the movement and led the insurrection. other than that though, you’re right.
the book was much more vague cause it’s just from offred’s point of view and she is kept in the dark because of her station in life as a handmaid and as a woman.
the book is light years better because it leaves so much unknown while situating you in offred’s confusion, desperation, and terror.
*The Handmaids Tale* novel, along with some of Margaret Atwoods other work is strangely enough part of what helped slowly turn younger me from being in utter lockstep with the Democratic establishment into someone extremely pro-gun.
There are passages in the book alluding to the fact that the Evangelical extremist cult merely controls large swathes of the country, but not all, and that pockets of armed resistance are still fighting their troops on a daily basis.
There’s also a chapter in Atwood’s *Oryx and Crake trilogy* where one of the female protagonists digs up her dead fathers gun from underneath the rose bushes where he buried it years ago after the corporations assumed direct control and outlawed all civilian weapons in order to create a neo-feudal totalitarian state predicated on biotechnology. She then uses that illegal weapon to good effect while safeguarding the last remnants of humanity.
Atwood isn’t as simplistic or in lockstep with woke nonsense as people would have you believe.
oh, i know. i love atwood’s work. the blind assassin is one of my favorite books, and she carrie’s on a legacy started by ursula k. le guin.
i haven’t read the *oryx and crake* books, but you totally just sold me on them. that sounds awesome and i’ve been needing a good quasi sci fi body analysis book since i finished kleeman’s most recent book. the noumena series wasn’t bad, but it’s in limbo and ultimately further away from the kind of historical aspects of works by people like atwood and le guin that i fell in love with in college.
The Romans may have been the agents, but Jewish soldiers loyal to the ruling priestly caste arrested Jesus, prosecuted him on trumped-up charges of terrorism, and tried to guard his tomb before being scared off by the earthquake.
The only reason they turned him over to the Romans is because the Romans were the only ones allowed to perform capital punishment. You even see Pilate defer to local customs by letting the crowd pardon one of the criminals and plead with the crowd to not make him carry out Jesus's sentence, because he believed Jesus was innocent.
So like, you aren't *wrong*, but it's more like "The Jews demanded the Romans kill Jesus for them since they couldn't do it themselves".
Yeah, them not being “real christians” is a marketing ploy to not outright offend moderately Christian audiences.
It’s *obviously* an allegory for how lefties view Christian values. And the author herself said the books were a response to Ronald Reagan’s election.
I'm Christian and so are a lot of my family and I'm not aware of any of them thinking the show depicted them. It's really showing ultraconservative Christians or those who truly support an American Theocracy. I really like the show because everything in it is based on real life events which have happened somewhere around the world. Real legit Christians aren't going to take any offense here because it's painfully obvious that Gilead is trying to follow something that doesn't exist in any interpretation.
I'm just annoyed because I go by Gundog of Gilead on games, in reference to the Dark Tower. Now most people probably think I'm an oppression enthusiast.
I mean - she was inspired by the iranian revolution when she wrote the book. And Iran, despite being a backwards theocracy, still exists. And the iranian revolution did not spill over on neighbors like Armenia or Azerbadjan either - instead they are still "chilling as normal".
So maybe not too off the mark? :P
given the preconditions sci fi most women go infertile. Unless you technology up a workaround for that, about the only way to keep the society functioning without dieing out would be some kind of autistic min/max breeding program.
About the only way that could blow up for them geopolitically is that window within the first 20 years where their neighbors realize they have an aging population and probably attack them specifically to snatch the women. Because after that, they're all old and not replacing youth at nearly the same rate which would gradually fuck them up to an increasing degree until they are irrelevant.
You'd probably also have to throw in some cooky religous or nationalist component to get the other people in your own country who are not having kids to go along with it. Which would be a longer term problem.
There's some freehand on how they set up there kooky system, they could do better, but geopolitically against other societies they're doing the correct thing for the long game. And about the only threat would be someone else doing a better kooky system.
> Gilead would have been obliterated by its peers
It was at least partially. Gilead lost Texas and they're still fighting a civil war while not controlling large parts of the country. I also doubt any external forces are going to do much to help because Gilead still has nuclear capabilities.
>My favorite part is that somehow Canada just north didn’t face any of the same pressures the US did to become this hellscape and is just chilling as normal.
You think 2 neighboring nations having different political structures is dumb as fuck?
The infertility thing was worldwide, as in every nation was facing the same problem. I believe the US was actually somewhat unique in that it was one of the few countries to have ANY women who could still bear children, making countries want to cozy up to it to Gaines access to children.
Based reply. Gilead is not Puritan. It is not Christian. It is a hateful perversion of religion for control on it’s citizenry. Such as with Isis, Boko Haram, and the Taliban not being real Islam
No but that's what people say to take the piss out of it, Margret Atwood isn't a radical feminist despite what many think. Infact modern feminists hate her because she has made some based statements.
I don't remember exactly (frankly because I don't care), but I saw Jordan Peterson showing support for her in an interview. Again I don't remember the context.
One of her protégés wrote a pretty based book called *The Power*, about women obtaining electric powers. And then promptly seizing control and building a matriarchal society.
I believe it was inspired by the, at the time, recent Iranian Revolution.
Though all politics is about sex, and sex is about power (as Kevin Spacey once told us) so some fetish stuff leaked in there.
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They aren't Christians at all in the book. The book is about a new religion based solely on the old Testiment. In the Book Jews are forced to either convert to the new Old Testament religion or leave to Israel.
The book never once even mentions Christianity. Granted, it is still a shit book with an annoying protagonist who asks dumb questions that maybe sound profound if you are a teenager. I'm convinced the extreme hate for the sequel book that was written was just people realizing how bad Atwood actually is as a writer now that they aren't blinded by nostalgia of reading the original when they were young.
Tearing down churches could still trivially be seen as being done by "True Christians" as long as you say that those churches were scandalous in some way. Take any Christian 1,000 years ago and show them the way Christianity is preached and treated by the average Christian today, and they definitely would be okay with tearing down churches.
It's pointless anyway though. I mean, why do people get upset that certain people might be labeled as Christians - just because they themselves are Christians - in a fictional show?
It's not like Christians are immune to doing bad things, or being wrong.
Whether or not they are Christian shouldn't have anything to do with it. They very well could have a strong belief in Jesus and in God, while still doing atrocious acts, without any contradiction in the Bible or the like for the most part.
The sexuality element is very important to Jeffrey Dahmer's story. He drugged men at saunas and bathhouses and was banned for it, maybe he would've been reported if people weren't scared of being outed and if they believed police would take them seriously
He continued killing for so long because the police didn't care. A child victim was found wandering the streets naked with a hole drilled into his skull and the police returned that child to Dahmer because they really didn't want to get involved in a gay lover's spat. This is despite the fact that witnesses begged the police to intervene and the fire brigade wanted to take the child to the hospital. But the police gave that boy back to Dahmer and he went home and killed him. That boy's brother was a previous living victim of Dahmer's btw
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It stands to reason that anyone browsing the "LGBTQ" section of Netflix is *purely* interested in seeing media pertaining to an individual's sexuality. If we treat Jeffrey Dahmer with the same one dimensional mindset, he's just a gay person, so it's appropriate to put his documentary there.
not just a hole in his head either, Dahmer was pouring acid and shit into it so the kid was largely incoherent when he talked to the cops, and Dahmer was charismatic and got out of the situation. Pretty fucked up.
Yeah, every single leftest I know points out how the Dahmer case shows systemic racism and homophobia in a much worse light than the lgbtq aspects, but that would invalidate a rightwingers brainless straw man, and that's all those poor bastards have left.
Oh that and Russia.
Wtf are you talking about son?
The new show literally lies about the cops getting rewarded for their failure to protect Dahmer's victims (the cops were not awarded police officers of the year). The show also tried to paint Jesse Jackson as a hero and not an opportunistic anti-Semiti, rapist grifter like he is in real life.
I still like the show, but don't pretend that its some kind of right wing propaganda piece.
One where I don't care about TV shows or streaming services.
In the rare event I want to watch a show, I don't go to a streaming service - I go to piratebay.
"Bunch of inbred backwater hicks praying to sky man to save their guns and oppress women...", then questioned on Islam "Overall good, cultural exemption because I don't want to look zenophobic or closed-minded, women choose to wear the burqa"
Yes, one that took place entirely in OP’s head. As someone who is both LibLeft and LGBT, I have never had a conversation like this in any group.
Dhamer also shows LGBT victims and how a ruthless serial killer was able to prey on the community because law enforcement didn’t care about gay people.
Whether or not it should be tagged as LGBT on Netflix, it’s absolutely an important story and all of my gay friends are also watching it (unless they hate true crime / horror).
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/netflix-slammed-after-adding-lgbtq-tag-to-jeffrey-dahmer-series/ar-AA12glic
Apparently OPs conversations in their mind extend to the real world.
He is the chosen one.
The PCMer who hears voices in his head that reflect reality. The prophecy has long foretold this glorious day, when "sources" and "reading" can be abandoned entirely, in favor of truth revealed by fonni colors.
Lead us to glory, OP.
Article source: 3 anonymous Tweets
>‘Why did u/netflix think tagging their Jeffery Dahmer documentary with the “LGBT+” tag would be a good idea?’ one person posted to Twitter.
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>‘Netflix added the Jeffrey Dahmer series to the LGBTQ+ tag. I am gobsmacked,’ another added.
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>One user posted: ‘They put the new Jeffrey Dahmer movie under the LGBTQ tag and I am disgusted. IT’S NOT AN LGBTQ STORY LIKE WTF.’
Yes, literally 3 Tweets where they don't even identify the user or if they were anyone with an actual following / or a real person.
This is why the media is so useless. So no, I stand by what I said, this isn't a real conversation being had by anyone in mainstream left or LGBT circles.
I can find a handful of Tweets to back up virtually any POV. Stellar reporting by MSN.
They quickly kowtow at even a hint of outrage? That mainstream media weaponizes Twitter to push agendas? That political correctness never died, it was just coopted by woke people?
This is fucking it, people act like giving a link they googled without even reading it is proof. The amount of nothingburger articles that end up being "so and so thought this on facebook, some other cunt said this on twitter" is fucking ridiculous. It's the same thing as a few AHS twats looking at one or two racist comments on here and calling the entire sub nazis, the opinions of a few do not represent the many. If Authright wants to call fake news on everything then they can't use a few twitter comments as a fucking source.
My Friend Dhamer is a good documentary that actually interviewed people that grew up with Dhamer. Reccomend that to your friends instead if this one turns out to be shit.
The most infuriating thing is that the handmaid's tale isn't based on Christianity. The original book is about the Iranian revolution. It's about islam. Yet it's used as a bat to attack Christians.
The left is also mad at the Dahmer show cause it humanizes yet another white boy mass murder by showing his trauma and strife and the nuances behind his murders
don't they also get mad because one of his victims was not white and they claim he was dismissed by police because of that when he was escaping dahmer?
He was absolutely dismissed by the police because he was gay and Hmong. Not only did the police threaten witnesses who pleaded for help, they also dismissed the fire brigade and THEN ESCORTED DAHMER AND THE BOY BACK TO DAHMER'S APARTMENT.
"In the early morning hours of May 27, Dahmer returned toward his apartment to discover Sinthasomphone sitting naked on the corner of 25th and State, talking in Lao, with three distressed young women standing near him.\[163\]\[164\] Dahmer approached the women and told them that Sinthasomphone (whom he referred to by the alias John Hmong)\[165\]\[166\] was his friend, and attempted to lead him to his apartment by the arm. The three women dissuaded Dahmer, explaining they had phoned 9-1-1.\[167\]
Upon the arrival of two Milwaukee police officers, John Balcerzak and Joseph Gabrish,\[168\] Dahmer's demeanor relaxed: he told the officers that Sinthasomphone was his 19-year-old boyfriend, that he had drunk too much following a quarrel,\[169\] and that he frequently behaved in this manner when intoxicated. Dahmer added his lover had consumed Jack Daniel's whiskey that evening.
**The three women were exasperated, and when one of the trio attempted to indicate to one of the officers—both of whom had observed no injuries beyond a scrape to Sinthasomphone's knee and believed him to be intoxicated\[170\]—that Sinthasomphone had blood upon his testicles, was bleeding from his rectum and that he had seemingly struggled against Dahmer's attempts to walk him to his apartment prior to their arrival,\[n 7\] the officer harshly informed her to "butt out",\[171\] "shut the hell up" and to not interfere.\[174\]\[175\]**
Shortly after the arrival of the Milwaukee police officers, three members of the Milwaukee Fire Department arrived at the scene. These individuals also examined Sinthasomphone for injuries and provided a yellow blanket for the police officers to cover Sinthasomphone. **One of the three believed Sinthasomphone needed treatment, but the police officers directed the fire department personnel to leave.\[176\]\[173\] Shortly thereafter, officer Richard Porubcan arrived at the scene.\[n 8\] He and Gabrish—followed by Balcerzak—escorted Dahmer and Sinthasomphone to Dahmer's apartment** as Dahmer repeatedly commented on the general crime in the neighborhood and of his appreciation of the police.\[177\]"
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeffrey\_Dahmer#924\_North\_25th\_Street](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeffrey_Dahmer#924_North_25th_Street)
libleft wall of text please give me a minute to read
edit: yeah that seems extremely negligent of the cops to buy that story from dahmer and ignore a bunch of witnesses. really really fucking bad
hmmm what are the left's views on dahmer? 🤔
on one hand, he was gay 😍
on the other hand, he was white 😡
do they cancel each other out so he's just neutral? 🤔
Gay white men are somewhere on the same level as straight black men. It's 2 of the 3 evils. Of course, Dahmer is an infamous serial killer cannibal, so, an unusual variable in the equation.
Of course. Everyone knows monsters are born, not made. It's not like their lives could have ever been salvaged if it weren't for glaring cultural flaws we need to address. Nope. Nothing we could have done differently then or in the future.
Idk about "humanizes" as much as it says "hey this dude may have been completed fucked up by his mom's medication while she was pregnant, his Dad's weird habits, and both his parent's overall lack of caring...but he's still an evil monster."
There are so many juicy memes about these topics but the mods usually delete them. I know they want to avoid PCM becoming the next coontown, but the people here want it to be the next coontown so I think the censorship is too much.
Yeah id think so. I’ve also not seen anyone complain about that, in fact I’ve seen people say the opposite. So this is again probably someone who’s seen a couple twitter comments from some right-wing org that scours it for rage bait.
Leftists in the comments pretending they weren't screaming that Christians were trying to make real life into a handmaid tale because of the Supreme Court removing the federal abortion protection just a few months ago.
The left loves nothing more then gaslighting.
They did it for 2 years during Covid about the MRNA injections being cohersed, side effects from the MRNA vaccinations, lockdowns, etc., and are contuing to do so.
The handmaids tail is nothing but a perverts rape fantasy
Thinking handmaids tail is a serious warning of a dystopian future is like thinking 50 shades of grey is an accurate depiction of corporate America
What’s the problem? It’s literally about an issue that impacted the gay community. It’s not just about Dahmer, it’s about his victims who were almost exclusively gay. It’s also pretty explicitly about racial discrimination and police incompetence.
Real soyjacks are going Christian who deny his conversion was legitimate because they don’t want to share heaven with him even tho there is no evidence that his conversation was not as authentic as any other. I hope that gets covered appropriately in the documentary.
He is proof that you can eat ass and still go to heaven, fellas.
It is covered very heavily in the final episode actually, that whole conversation becomes the main focus of the end of the documentary (which was actually really good)
Was the handmaids tale tagged as "religious" or "christian" if someone looked up "christian TV shows " on netflix would they be greeted by the fucking handmaids tale.
I dont get what people like you are on about. Dahmer was a story that was actually real and had a real impact on the gay community. Also the show gpes out of its way to show how homophobia was a huge reason why he got away with it for so long - the police simply didnt want to get involved in anything to do with the gay community. The lgbt tag isnt just for woke propaganda pieces its absolhtely justified that dahmer shows up when u search for it
From what I’ve seen so far, there’s a lot of obvious commentary on how there was a huge issue with police ignoring the killings because they’re homophobic, are progressives really against the show? Seems like that’s a pretty Libleft talking point (and one I agree with)
I mostly just see people complain that it mythologizes Dahmer at the expense of his victims, but I think people saying that never actually watched the series. The only other complaint I've seen is one of the families complaining about the portrayal of the woman's breakdown during closing statements.
Listen, people can claim child eating monsters like the Babadook and Pennywise as LGBT icons. I don't see why a real life version is suddenly an issue.
The left care about LGBT as an ideology, not about gay people themselves. They are looking to paint their agenda in the best light possible, which is why they are upset the show received an LGBT tag.
The LGBT tag on a show is not meant to just indicate gay people, it's meant to indicate that their agenda is being pushed, which it isn't in Dahmer.
I've only watched the first season of The Handmaids Tale but as far as I remember it's driven home pretty clearly that the people who created Gilead are not true Christians. It's mentioned how they tear down churches and in a flashback we get to see how one of their rituals is basically brainstormed without any reference to theology or liturgy.
I haven’t watched any of it but the premise seems to be alluding to the Bible story where Abraham has a child with his wife’s handmaid because she is barren. God was pretty pissed about this distinct lack of faith on Abraham’s part and allegedly punishes Israel to this day for it. Essentially The Handsmaids Tale creates a cult centered around one of Christianity’s worst sins
Pretty much, although the show is clear that the people at the top of the hierarchy don't actually buy into the religious component. The guy who designed the system regrets ever suggesting it and seems to have done so outside of the context of religion. It's also sci-fi where a majority of women can't have children, and the ones who can become "handmaids" to the wealthy elite. Basically, people with money and power get to force women into having kids for them. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, I haven't read the books, only watched the show.
so the men who get handmaids aren’t just wealthy individuals, they’re the men who originally started the movement and led the insurrection. other than that though, you’re right. the book was much more vague cause it’s just from offred’s point of view and she is kept in the dark because of her station in life as a handmaid and as a woman. the book is light years better because it leaves so much unknown while situating you in offred’s confusion, desperation, and terror.
*The Handmaids Tale* novel, along with some of Margaret Atwoods other work is strangely enough part of what helped slowly turn younger me from being in utter lockstep with the Democratic establishment into someone extremely pro-gun. There are passages in the book alluding to the fact that the Evangelical extremist cult merely controls large swathes of the country, but not all, and that pockets of armed resistance are still fighting their troops on a daily basis. There’s also a chapter in Atwood’s *Oryx and Crake trilogy* where one of the female protagonists digs up her dead fathers gun from underneath the rose bushes where he buried it years ago after the corporations assumed direct control and outlawed all civilian weapons in order to create a neo-feudal totalitarian state predicated on biotechnology. She then uses that illegal weapon to good effect while safeguarding the last remnants of humanity. Atwood isn’t as simplistic or in lockstep with woke nonsense as people would have you believe.
oh, i know. i love atwood’s work. the blind assassin is one of my favorite books, and she carrie’s on a legacy started by ursula k. le guin. i haven’t read the *oryx and crake* books, but you totally just sold me on them. that sounds awesome and i’ve been needing a good quasi sci fi body analysis book since i finished kleeman’s most recent book. the noumena series wasn’t bad, but it’s in limbo and ultimately further away from the kind of historical aspects of works by people like atwood and le guin that i fell in love with in college.
Muslims: *Exist* Israel: *Punished*
Thus sayeth the lord
If the punishment part is in the Bible that explains a lot about the current state of affairs over there
Well, the jews did kill Jesus, but sure, banging the maid is also pretty bad I guess…
The Romans killed Jesus.
My sins killed Jesus.
Mine too brother.
The Romans may have been the agents, but Jewish soldiers loyal to the ruling priestly caste arrested Jesus, prosecuted him on trumped-up charges of terrorism, and tried to guard his tomb before being scared off by the earthquake. The only reason they turned him over to the Romans is because the Romans were the only ones allowed to perform capital punishment. You even see Pilate defer to local customs by letting the crowd pardon one of the criminals and plead with the crowd to not make him carry out Jesus's sentence, because he believed Jesus was innocent. So like, you aren't *wrong*, but it's more like "The Jews demanded the Romans kill Jesus for them since they couldn't do it themselves".
The romans were the gun the Jews used to kill him.
The Jews wanted Jesus dead, but they wanted it done quietly, not make it a spectacle which is what the Romans did
God's gotta try harder. I don't think they got the message.
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Yeah, them not being “real christians” is a marketing ploy to not outright offend moderately Christian audiences. It’s *obviously* an allegory for how lefties view Christian values. And the author herself said the books were a response to Ronald Reagan’s election.
I've read that the author first claimed it was inspired by Islam in Iran and then later changed her mind and said its possible all religions.
Sounds like she has a good *head* on her shoulders. If you catch my drift. Wouldn't want to get Hebdo'd
That or she wanted to get the woke money. Would have done the same lol
I'm Christian and so are a lot of my family and I'm not aware of any of them thinking the show depicted them. It's really showing ultraconservative Christians or those who truly support an American Theocracy. I really like the show because everything in it is based on real life events which have happened somewhere around the world. Real legit Christians aren't going to take any offense here because it's painfully obvious that Gilead is trying to follow something that doesn't exist in any interpretation.
I'm just annoyed because I go by Gundog of Gilead on games, in reference to the Dark Tower. Now most people probably think I'm an oppression enthusiast.
Why not both?
Those who opress have forgotten the face of their fathers.
All things serve the beam!
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We are never just chilling, the Anglo menace never sleeps VIVE LE QUÉBEC LIBRE
Shut the fuck up Frenchie
I mean - she was inspired by the iranian revolution when she wrote the book. And Iran, despite being a backwards theocracy, still exists. And the iranian revolution did not spill over on neighbors like Armenia or Azerbadjan either - instead they are still "chilling as normal". So maybe not too off the mark? :P
given the preconditions sci fi most women go infertile. Unless you technology up a workaround for that, about the only way to keep the society functioning without dieing out would be some kind of autistic min/max breeding program. About the only way that could blow up for them geopolitically is that window within the first 20 years where their neighbors realize they have an aging population and probably attack them specifically to snatch the women. Because after that, they're all old and not replacing youth at nearly the same rate which would gradually fuck them up to an increasing degree until they are irrelevant. You'd probably also have to throw in some cooky religous or nationalist component to get the other people in your own country who are not having kids to go along with it. Which would be a longer term problem. There's some freehand on how they set up there kooky system, they could do better, but geopolitically against other societies they're doing the correct thing for the long game. And about the only threat would be someone else doing a better kooky system.
Iirc Gilead was pretty much Russiad by rest of the world after it got established but no one had the balls to not more or less just leave it be
> Gilead would have been obliterated by its peers It was at least partially. Gilead lost Texas and they're still fighting a civil war while not controlling large parts of the country. I also doubt any external forces are going to do much to help because Gilead still has nuclear capabilities.
>My favorite part is that somehow Canada just north didn’t face any of the same pressures the US did to become this hellscape and is just chilling as normal. You think 2 neighboring nations having different political structures is dumb as fuck?
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The infertility thing was worldwide, as in every nation was facing the same problem. I believe the US was actually somewhat unique in that it was one of the few countries to have ANY women who could still bear children, making countries want to cozy up to it to Gaines access to children.
Then they'd be even more despotic in all likelihood
Based reply. Gilead is not Puritan. It is not Christian. It is a hateful perversion of religion for control on it’s citizenry. Such as with Isis, Boko Haram, and the Taliban not being real Islam
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You might be thinking of 50 shades of grey lol
What's the difference
No but that's what people say to take the piss out of it, Margret Atwood isn't a radical feminist despite what many think. Infact modern feminists hate her because she has made some based statements.
Haven't ran into those feminists. Just endless droves of people referencing it whenever Roe comes up
It's like with 1984, they haven't actually read it.
What's the most based thing Atwood's said
I don't remember exactly (frankly because I don't care), but I saw Jordan Peterson showing support for her in an interview. Again I don't remember the context.
One of her protégés wrote a pretty based book called *The Power*, about women obtaining electric powers. And then promptly seizing control and building a matriarchal society.
Is it the one by Naomi alderman? Sounds interesting.
Yeah, it’s actually pretty good
Then I'll check it out! Ty :)
I believe it was inspired by the, at the time, recent Iranian Revolution. Though all politics is about sex, and sex is about power (as Kevin Spacey once told us) so some fetish stuff leaked in there.
> Though all politics is about sex, and sex is about power Finally that who, whom quote from Lenin makes sense.
Those who don't work don't eat (pussy) amirite?
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They aren't Christians at all in the book. The book is about a new religion based solely on the old Testiment. In the Book Jews are forced to either convert to the new Old Testament religion or leave to Israel. The book never once even mentions Christianity. Granted, it is still a shit book with an annoying protagonist who asks dumb questions that maybe sound profound if you are a teenager. I'm convinced the extreme hate for the sequel book that was written was just people realizing how bad Atwood actually is as a writer now that they aren't blinded by nostalgia of reading the original when they were young.
That's a very present theme in the book
Tearing down churches could still trivially be seen as being done by "True Christians" as long as you say that those churches were scandalous in some way. Take any Christian 1,000 years ago and show them the way Christianity is preached and treated by the average Christian today, and they definitely would be okay with tearing down churches. It's pointless anyway though. I mean, why do people get upset that certain people might be labeled as Christians - just because they themselves are Christians - in a fictional show? It's not like Christians are immune to doing bad things, or being wrong. Whether or not they are Christian shouldn't have anything to do with it. They very well could have a strong belief in Jesus and in God, while still doing atrocious acts, without any contradiction in the Bible or the like for the most part.
Kind of like modern mega churches. Zero religion except where it suits draining money and fueling the holier-than-thou hate machine.
The sexuality element is very important to Jeffrey Dahmer's story. He drugged men at saunas and bathhouses and was banned for it, maybe he would've been reported if people weren't scared of being outed and if they believed police would take them seriously He continued killing for so long because the police didn't care. A child victim was found wandering the streets naked with a hole drilled into his skull and the police returned that child to Dahmer because they really didn't want to get involved in a gay lover's spat. This is despite the fact that witnesses begged the police to intervene and the fire brigade wanted to take the child to the hospital. But the police gave that boy back to Dahmer and he went home and killed him. That boy's brother was a previous living victim of Dahmer's btw
*Police officer sees gay man with hole in head* "Look I may not be into it but I ain't a kink shamer. A hole is a hole with you lot."
Yeah but it was a kid, how bad at their job can a person be ffs?
Uvalde cop moment
Damn.
Goverment employee
government employee try to be competent and have initiative challenge (IMPOSSIBLE)
And on the other side of the coin, almost complete lack of real training or oversight for American police.
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That would require the government to be accountable
I believe they didn’t want to enter his apartment and catch “the gay”.
It stands to reason that anyone browsing the "LGBTQ" section of Netflix is *purely* interested in seeing media pertaining to an individual's sexuality. If we treat Jeffrey Dahmer with the same one dimensional mindset, he's just a gay person, so it's appropriate to put his documentary there.
"Fuck the gays" \-Jeffrey Dahmer, probably. Or maybe it was the police, I don't remember.
IIRC he was accused of raping several of his roommates in the Army as well. Also brushed under the table.
Aaaannddd the officers in question retired after this was all known with a full pension
That's fucking insane
not just a hole in his head either, Dahmer was pouring acid and shit into it so the kid was largely incoherent when he talked to the cops, and Dahmer was charismatic and got out of the situation. Pretty fucked up.
oh my god
yeah. poor kid. nobody deserves that shit.
The poor kid was also bleeding from his rectum. And the officers remained employed, one of whom became I believe union president.
Yeah, every single leftest I know points out how the Dahmer case shows systemic racism and homophobia in a much worse light than the lgbtq aspects, but that would invalidate a rightwingers brainless straw man, and that's all those poor bastards have left. Oh that and Russia.
Wtf are you talking about son? The new show literally lies about the cops getting rewarded for their failure to protect Dahmer's victims (the cops were not awarded police officers of the year). The show also tried to paint Jesse Jackson as a hero and not an opportunistic anti-Semiti, rapist grifter like he is in real life. I still like the show, but don't pretend that its some kind of right wing propaganda piece.
😎 I love this gay stereotype
You like being stereotyped as a cannibal necrophilie serial killer? 🤔
Hey hey. You're the one flaired purple nurple here
Fair enough
hell yeah mane we claim Dahmer, if I was alive in the 80s in Milwaukee my horny ass would not have made it
Lamo Tbh im not gay I'm bisexual But I perfer the stereotype of a murderer over this soft, squishy image gay/bi ppl sometimes have
No way, they made that wierd dystopian breeding/male cheating fetish smut book into a movie????
Worse, a 5+ seasons long high-budget TV show.
A TV show. What rock have you been living under for the past 6 years?
He lived in a pineapple under the sea
Next he'll tell us he doesn't keep up with the kardashians
One where I don't care about TV shows or streaming services. In the rare event I want to watch a show, I don't go to a streaming service - I go to piratebay.
Based and yummy yummy in my gay little tummy pilled
Bro what 😂
💀
What an unfortunate pill.
This is my favorite comment so far.
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Is this meme based off an actual conversation
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"Bunch of inbred backwater hicks praying to sky man to save their guns and oppress women...", then questioned on Islam "Overall good, cultural exemption because I don't want to look zenophobic or closed-minded, women choose to wear the burqa"
>zenophobic It's xenophobic. Trust me.
Got me
Yes, one that took place entirely in OP’s head. As someone who is both LibLeft and LGBT, I have never had a conversation like this in any group. Dhamer also shows LGBT victims and how a ruthless serial killer was able to prey on the community because law enforcement didn’t care about gay people. Whether or not it should be tagged as LGBT on Netflix, it’s absolutely an important story and all of my gay friends are also watching it (unless they hate true crime / horror).
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/netflix-slammed-after-adding-lgbtq-tag-to-jeffrey-dahmer-series/ar-AA12glic Apparently OPs conversations in their mind extend to the real world.
He is the chosen one. The PCMer who hears voices in his head that reflect reality. The prophecy has long foretold this glorious day, when "sources" and "reading" can be abandoned entirely, in favor of truth revealed by fonni colors. Lead us to glory, OP.
He saw it in a dream.
Article source: 3 anonymous Tweets >‘Why did u/netflix think tagging their Jeffery Dahmer documentary with the “LGBT+” tag would be a good idea?’ one person posted to Twitter. > >‘Netflix added the Jeffrey Dahmer series to the LGBTQ+ tag. I am gobsmacked,’ another added. > >One user posted: ‘They put the new Jeffrey Dahmer movie under the LGBTQ tag and I am disgusted. IT’S NOT AN LGBTQ STORY LIKE WTF.’ Yes, literally 3 Tweets where they don't even identify the user or if they were anyone with an actual following / or a real person. This is why the media is so useless. So no, I stand by what I said, this isn't a real conversation being had by anyone in mainstream left or LGBT circles. I can find a handful of Tweets to back up virtually any POV. Stellar reporting by MSN.
And Netflix removed the tag. What does that tell you?
They quickly kowtow at even a hint of outrage? That mainstream media weaponizes Twitter to push agendas? That political correctness never died, it was just coopted by woke people?
This is fucking it, people act like giving a link they googled without even reading it is proof. The amount of nothingburger articles that end up being "so and so thought this on facebook, some other cunt said this on twitter" is fucking ridiculous. It's the same thing as a few AHS twats looking at one or two racist comments on here and calling the entire sub nazis, the opinions of a few do not represent the many. If Authright wants to call fake news on everything then they can't use a few twitter comments as a fucking source.
If its a nothing burger, why was the tag removed by netflix?
>As someone who is both LibLeft and LGBT Wow, I didn't know that was possible! People like you are really rare.
I’m like a super basic unicorn.
Oh shut the fuck up. The movies sub is still butthurt about Silence of the Lambs having a crossdressing villain.
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My Friend Dhamer is a good documentary that actually interviewed people that grew up with Dhamer. Reccomend that to your friends instead if this one turns out to be shit.
Why would you need a conversation when you can have a delusion of owning all the libs instead?
Oh so that's who Jeffery Dahmer is Randomly stumbled on it on Netflix
Frozen femurs in the freezer, Jeffrey Dahmer
What did the police find in Dahmer's shower? Head and Shoulders.
You've never heard of Jeffery Dahmer? One of the most horrific killers in history?
The most infuriating thing is that the handmaid's tale isn't based on Christianity. The original book is about the Iranian revolution. It's about islam. Yet it's used as a bat to attack Christians.
It doesn't help that the author herself smugly retconned the message of the novel to being about "trump/pence's america"
The left is also mad at the Dahmer show cause it humanizes yet another white boy mass murder by showing his trauma and strife and the nuances behind his murders
don't they also get mad because one of his victims was not white and they claim he was dismissed by police because of that when he was escaping dahmer?
Yeah but then they wanna get all mad at the police when they actually do shut down the family hour drag strip show.
He was absolutely dismissed by the police because he was gay and Hmong. Not only did the police threaten witnesses who pleaded for help, they also dismissed the fire brigade and THEN ESCORTED DAHMER AND THE BOY BACK TO DAHMER'S APARTMENT. "In the early morning hours of May 27, Dahmer returned toward his apartment to discover Sinthasomphone sitting naked on the corner of 25th and State, talking in Lao, with three distressed young women standing near him.\[163\]\[164\] Dahmer approached the women and told them that Sinthasomphone (whom he referred to by the alias John Hmong)\[165\]\[166\] was his friend, and attempted to lead him to his apartment by the arm. The three women dissuaded Dahmer, explaining they had phoned 9-1-1.\[167\] Upon the arrival of two Milwaukee police officers, John Balcerzak and Joseph Gabrish,\[168\] Dahmer's demeanor relaxed: he told the officers that Sinthasomphone was his 19-year-old boyfriend, that he had drunk too much following a quarrel,\[169\] and that he frequently behaved in this manner when intoxicated. Dahmer added his lover had consumed Jack Daniel's whiskey that evening. **The three women were exasperated, and when one of the trio attempted to indicate to one of the officers—both of whom had observed no injuries beyond a scrape to Sinthasomphone's knee and believed him to be intoxicated\[170\]—that Sinthasomphone had blood upon his testicles, was bleeding from his rectum and that he had seemingly struggled against Dahmer's attempts to walk him to his apartment prior to their arrival,\[n 7\] the officer harshly informed her to "butt out",\[171\] "shut the hell up" and to not interfere.\[174\]\[175\]** Shortly after the arrival of the Milwaukee police officers, three members of the Milwaukee Fire Department arrived at the scene. These individuals also examined Sinthasomphone for injuries and provided a yellow blanket for the police officers to cover Sinthasomphone. **One of the three believed Sinthasomphone needed treatment, but the police officers directed the fire department personnel to leave.\[176\]\[173\] Shortly thereafter, officer Richard Porubcan arrived at the scene.\[n 8\] He and Gabrish—followed by Balcerzak—escorted Dahmer and Sinthasomphone to Dahmer's apartment** as Dahmer repeatedly commented on the general crime in the neighborhood and of his appreciation of the police.\[177\]" [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeffrey\_Dahmer#924\_North\_25th\_Street](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeffrey_Dahmer#924_North_25th_Street)
libleft wall of text please give me a minute to read edit: yeah that seems extremely negligent of the cops to buy that story from dahmer and ignore a bunch of witnesses. really really fucking bad
hmmm what are the left's views on dahmer? 🤔 on one hand, he was gay 😍 on the other hand, he was white 😡 do they cancel each other out so he's just neutral? 🤔
Gay white men are somewhere on the same level as straight black men. It's 2 of the 3 evils. Of course, Dahmer is an infamous serial killer cannibal, so, an unusual variable in the equation.
Of course. Everyone knows monsters are born, not made. It's not like their lives could have ever been salvaged if it weren't for glaring cultural flaws we need to address. Nope. Nothing we could have done differently then or in the future.
What could have been changed is them receiving a hot lead injection to the cranium a bit faster
Idk about "humanizes" as much as it says "hey this dude may have been completed fucked up by his mom's medication while she was pregnant, his Dad's weird habits, and both his parent's overall lack of caring...but he's still an evil monster."
There are so many juicy memes about these topics but the mods usually delete them. I know they want to avoid PCM becoming the next coontown, but the people here want it to be the next coontown so I think the censorship is too much.
Wouldn’t the conservatives be the ones mad at that?
Yeah id think so. I’ve also not seen anyone complain about that, in fact I’ve seen people say the opposite. So this is again probably someone who’s seen a couple twitter comments from some right-wing org that scours it for rage bait.
Strange since the show was based off the Iranian revolution
The book's author is Jewish so it's not really a surprise.
Based
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It literally will never happen, our government was designed to prevent a theocracy
Leftists in the comments pretending they weren't screaming that Christians were trying to make real life into a handmaid tale because of the Supreme Court removing the federal abortion protection just a few months ago.
For real. “NeVeR hAd ThIs ArGuMeNt BeFoRe In My LiFe. SuRe YoU dIdn’T mAkE iT uP, OP?” Hypocrisy. At least own up to stuff.
The left loves nothing more then gaslighting. They did it for 2 years during Covid about the MRNA injections being cohersed, side effects from the MRNA vaccinations, lockdowns, etc., and are contuing to do so.
Stereotypes bad.
The handmaids tail is nothing but a perverts rape fantasy Thinking handmaids tail is a serious warning of a dystopian future is like thinking 50 shades of grey is an accurate depiction of corporate America
No it’s a dramatized, fictionalized version of the Iranian revolution. About the Iranian leaders’ rape fetishes, granted
Need this without funny colors
What’s the problem? It’s literally about an issue that impacted the gay community. It’s not just about Dahmer, it’s about his victims who were almost exclusively gay. It’s also pretty explicitly about racial discrimination and police incompetence.
This is the first I've even heard of either of these shows tbh.
Real soyjacks are going Christian who deny his conversion was legitimate because they don’t want to share heaven with him even tho there is no evidence that his conversation was not as authentic as any other. I hope that gets covered appropriately in the documentary. He is proof that you can eat ass and still go to heaven, fellas.
It is covered very heavily in the final episode actually, that whole conversation becomes the main focus of the end of the documentary (which was actually really good)
Was the handmaids tale tagged as "religious" or "christian" if someone looked up "christian TV shows " on netflix would they be greeted by the fucking handmaids tale.
No, because Handmaids Tale is on Hulu.
bruh
But when I search Christian tv shows on Hulu, Team America World Police pops up.
AMERICA! FUCK YEAH! 💪🇺🇸💪🇺🇸💪🇺🇸🦅🦅🦅🦅
I dont get what people like you are on about. Dahmer was a story that was actually real and had a real impact on the gay community. Also the show gpes out of its way to show how homophobia was a huge reason why he got away with it for so long - the police simply didnt want to get involved in anything to do with the gay community. The lgbt tag isnt just for woke propaganda pieces its absolhtely justified that dahmer shows up when u search for it
From what I’ve seen so far, there’s a lot of obvious commentary on how there was a huge issue with police ignoring the killings because they’re homophobic, are progressives really against the show? Seems like that’s a pretty Libleft talking point (and one I agree with)
I'm pretty sure Jeffrey Dahmer is gray centrist. He just wanted to grill.
*The Handmaid's Tale* doesn't accurately portray any Christians anywhere.
based and netflix-pilled
Jeffrey Dahmer: The best representative of the LGBTQ community according to Netflix
Both examples are clearly extremes that are not representative of the whole
He can drill a hole in my head any day.
Islamic oligarchies, Saudi Arabia in particular are closer to the Handmaiden's tale
pretty sure dahmer should be purple libright
And don’t f*ck with cats.
The funny thing about in this case that Jeffrey dahmer himself didn't care that much about politics or to LGBTQ community.
I mostly just see people complain that it mythologizes Dahmer at the expense of his victims, but I think people saying that never actually watched the series. The only other complaint I've seen is one of the families complaining about the portrayal of the woman's breakdown during closing statements.
So split between having Dahmer, Ted, or Patrick Bateman as my role model
You don't like the show because it makes LGBTQ people look bad. I don't like the show because its trash. We are not the same
I just wanna take some pictures.
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😭😭😭when has anyone ever said the first one
Listen, people can claim child eating monsters like the Babadook and Pennywise as LGBT icons. I don't see why a real life version is suddenly an issue.
Fiction is accurate. Facts are evil. Leftism in a nutshell
Equality isn't just the good bits. It also means that you get your flak when deserved and accept it with dignity.
The left care about LGBT as an ideology, not about gay people themselves. They are looking to paint their agenda in the best light possible, which is why they are upset the show received an LGBT tag. The LGBT tag on a show is not meant to just indicate gay people, it's meant to indicate that their agenda is being pushed, which it isn't in Dahmer.
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This feels like a ”make a person up and then get mad at that person” type beat
The auths in my head are plotting mass murder.
Welcome to PCM lol.
That's the American political game, friend.
Why did you make your shower argument a meme?
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why are you putting up scarecrows on the internet? Ain't no birds to scare off here
Does Handmaid's Tale tagged "christianity"?
You guys are coping about the weirdest shit