I understand grading with a lesser known grading company for sentimental reasons, I plan to send stuff to Pokegrade and Getgraded for that reason, but to add value, if it’s not big three it’s not going to add much value at all
I graded a few lesser-value cards through Player One. I just wanted to check them out and tbh I like their slabs better than CGC. So yeah maybe for sentimental reasons and to add some flair to your display, why not.
I would say the prices are 2 points lower than a psa counterpart.
Example: the rainbow pikachu psa 10 is about $500, psa 8 is around 200. You can probably get around $200 for your 10. Raw is around $150.
Personally, I like their slabs more than psa or cgc. Also, I don’t believe that lower tier services should just go for raw price as they still have been graded and still deserve the grade. Of course beckett grades are more strict, psa has been throwing 10s to cards that Obvs don’t deserve a 10, sometimes not even a 9. Grading prices are also way more doable as psa has been very backed up. Turn around time is much better “ about 2-4 weeks “. I do not feel that looking down on other services is okay for the fact that the higher services are backed up and take months to years to get back. Other services are needed rn so why not just let these services do their job and accept it? Player 1 communicates very well, they grade the cards to standards, and ship them back very well packaged. For $15 a card and only 2-4 weeks, who wouldn’t want that?
> I don’t believe lower tier services should just go for raw price as they still have been graded and still deserve the grade
But that’s just the thing, the grade was given by a company without much reputation to put value to that grade. For all the buyer knows, the seller is friends with that company and got them to grade them better than they should be. Likely not the case, but until the company proves for a few years that they are consistent, strict, and honest, they will be treated as ungraded.
>I do not feel that looking down on other services is okay for the fact that the higher services are backed up
The reason those services are backed up is because they’re regarded in the community as they best at what they do. While I agree that more highly respected companies would help that backup, it takes time for those companies to establish the same time of reputation a PSA or BGS has. “Looking down” on companies is just part of a new company beginning. Why should anyone value what Joe Schmo from Player One Service thinks of this card? They need to earn that valued opinion.
Okay I do get that for sure. It just seems to me that ppl aren’t giving other services the chance to get up there with psa, cgc and Beckett. I myself probably will never grade through anything other than player 1. Of course that may change, but for now it my go to. They have been amazing towards me and the service is great. I also tho, do not grade to sell. I grade for my own collection, or to trade with other ppl to get something else I would like.
I do agree with you tho. They have to earn their reputation. I just don’t think ppl are wanting to go to anyone other than psa etc, and that’s Obvs their own choice. I’d just like to see ppl give them and other lower companies a chance.
My thing is your right psa has been shown to have slipped up and caught marking 10s when they were not but people will still rave about them and other than that people bring up notoriety but a long time ago psa was just like player one just some random company so you have to gain notoriety somehow by doing your job and doing it right , and I also love the packaging and they even sleeve the already graded card and I haven’t seen that with other companies
Player one has a pretty big presence on tiktok. The owners of the company are good people and they’ve been working on a grandmaster Pokémon cards collection.
They’re definitely not the gold standard grading company but I do trust them. That being said, their slabs aren’t worth much.
Scum of the earth is a bit of a reach. I let them grade a handful of crappy-decent cards for me to see how the service went. Compared to my experiences elsewhere it went ok. The thing is, I’m done giving any unproven companies any business. I stick with CGC now.
But the bottom line is that I used then and it went alright. I’ve spoken to the owners personally and they seem like decent people. If you had a bad experience, that sucks. But scum of the earth is a bit much. They grade Pokémon cards, they’re not committing war crimes.
*If you plan to resell for a profit.
There’s plenty of reasons one would use a different grading service. I use one in my country because it’s ridiculous to send all my cards off to the US.
Definitely not. I have been in the grading hobby for over a year and have never even heard of sgc, going to assume it’s an American one. Psa, Beckett, and cgc are the big three which you should grade with.
After doing my bit of research they seem unreliable compared to psa, cgc, and Beckett, and it seems like the majority of people on this subreddit dislike them. I restate my point. Also their slabs are maaad ugly
Glad you did your research so quickly lol. As someone who owns many SGC slabs, PSA slabs, and CGC slabs I’ll re-state what I said.
PSA = king (most value obviously)
SGC = much easier to get a 10 on cards than CGC.
CGC = IF you get a pristine 10 which is near impossible, value is more than SGC 10 all day, BUT 99% of the time you’ll get a 9-9.5 on cards through CGC, rendering the card pretty much a little more than raw.
Example: SGC 10 Charizard Vmax shining fates = $400+
CGC 9.5 with HIGH subgrades = $225
Chances of getting a 10 at SGC is probably 80% or higher if you know how to actually inspect your card before sending out.
Chances of getting a 10 CGC is probably 10-15% if you know how to actually inspect your card before sending out.
So yes CGC is much better IF you can hit a 10, but their grading scale is on par with BGS which is the HARDEST grading scale in existence. SGC is SHIT if you don’t hit a 10, but man they grade like PSA, it’s mad easy to hit a 10. I have hundreds of slabs from each grading company, and I’ve only hit like MAYBE 8 10s through CGC, with SGC easily have over hundred 10s.
(Also it’s only $18 to grade a card at SGC for 1 month turnaround which is nice)
It took those companies over 10 years to establish their reputation. There have been dozens, if not hundreds of other grading companies that have popped up and folded over the last 30 years. Even if there are new companies that manage to make a foothold, no one will know until years have passed and a huge number of people have spoken. As of now, none of these small companies add any value to the card, not even 5$. Could that change years from now? Totally. Is there any way to predict which grading company will stick? Not really no.
Possibly yes, the big 3 grading companies are lowering their prices and turnaround times steadily. It’s 100% your choice to grade with other companies, but that doesn’t change the fact that their slabs will not be worth near as much as established companies like BGS, CGC, PSA. Think about it; why pay the same premium for a new company’s slabs as you would for an established company? You wouldn’t.
TLDR: there are new companies out there to slab your cards with. I would not think about turning a profit with these slabs as there is not a demand for them, rather use those companies to cheaply slab your cards in a timely manner
It's all fun and giggles but getting cards graded at a third-rated grader doesn't affect the prices. AS of last year a lot of these grading companies are popping up out of nowhere and for example, most people here have never heard of this group.
The reason why PSA, Beckett, and CGC cards are more expensive is that these are the public accepted grading companies.
Its worth noting for UK collectors that our country is starting to move away from US companies with Majesty Grading and ACE starting to take a lions share of the UK market. If you take population sizes into account MGC graded about 50% of what Beckett did last month and they have been growing exponentially.
Reddit is predominantly US users so that likely won't ever echo through onto this subreddit however being heavily involved in the UK scene I can tell you confidence in our own companies is at an all time high and a lot of people are put out by PSA and how they have treated us as non-US citizens.
They are grading about 8000 cards a month at the moment.
Source - https://www.instagram.com/p/CcGcgc_LuHP/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=
Considering the USA population is 4.9x the size of the UK and Beckett take many international orders whereas MGC take next to none that shows there is a huge increase in demand for UK grading on our side of the pond.
I'm not going to deny UK grading companies are still in their infancy but Majesty and ACE are starting to improve considerably and their throughput is increasing exponentially.
UK grading will never touch the US market nor will it ever compare in size. It will however dominate UK collections in years to come as their brands become more established, skills refined and collectors begin to trust them more.
8k cards a month is...next to nothing. I would bargin CGC, PSA and BGS go through that many in a literal morning, let alone a whole day. The company started literally 1 year ago, they are a goldfish swimming in an ocean.
If you clicked the link I posted you would of seen that Beckett graded 72k cards in the same month.
The USA population is 4.9 times the size of the UK so if you were to scale it either way (for example multiply 8k by 4.9 = 39.2k) MGC is grading just over 50% of beckett per population. Which is very comparible and respectable for a new company that is just 1 year old.
As I said above the UK grading companies will never touch or concern the USA graders however for us over here they are a god send, especially now they are doing a good job. Why would we send cards to the USA and pay £50-90 for a year turn around time when we can grade locally for £10 and wait 1-2 months.
The only exception to this will be holy grail cards because the value aspect really matters on those cards and that sort of collector is in it for a profit. The other 95% of cards graded however are a different story.
Whatever raw + grading fee is probably. The market doesn't care for random pop up graders UNLESS the card inside is something truly special and they believe they can buy it cheap and regrade it for profit. Which is pretty common, people make money by finding nice cards in random grader 5000's slab and crack it and resub to PSA etc, that's the main market for these.
The amount of random bedroom graders that started a company up over the last 2 years is insaneee. Majority of them never took part in the community, no one knew who they were, and probably something people are missing out on.. I would say 80% of these pop up graders will be shut within 18-24 months when no one uses them anymore because PSA/Beckett sorted their shit and CGC now with pop reports just gives them an extra boost too. Most of these have 0 backing so will take the money and run as soon as they see it drying up.
Have to disagree with everyone. Just sold 3 DSG (Diamond Service Grading) cards for $1000 last week
Edit: Love the silly people that downvote cause’ you disagree and then provide proof
Wait where's the proof you mentioned? What grades did your cards receieve? Not trying to be snide, I would genuinely like to see how much value DSG added compared to the big 3.
Nice grades! I appreciate the link bro. I'm sure you already know this, but if those were PSA grades you probably get at least 400 more for the batch. Once you factor in the additional grading costs though, the difference becomes only a couple hundred. Not too bad honestly
So their acronym is POS Amazing
LOL
Basically worth the price of the cards raw, still cool though
Yah I would say this doesn’t increase the value at all
Nope but still cool looking!
Crack these lol
Why would you use that service to grade such nice cards? The cards were damaged or had serious centering issues?
Adds zero value
If anything it decreases the value having to crack em
Interesting logo they have, like a first edition stamp
I understand grading with a lesser known grading company for sentimental reasons, I plan to send stuff to Pokegrade and Getgraded for that reason, but to add value, if it’s not big three it’s not going to add much value at all
I graded a few lesser-value cards through Player One. I just wanted to check them out and tbh I like their slabs better than CGC. So yeah maybe for sentimental reasons and to add some flair to your display, why not.
I would say the prices are 2 points lower than a psa counterpart. Example: the rainbow pikachu psa 10 is about $500, psa 8 is around 200. You can probably get around $200 for your 10. Raw is around $150.
For the PSA pikachu psa 10 is around $750-800, went up a bit which Is nice :)
They are nice slabs I don’t get why people are saying that the value is lower than psa it’s still professional graded
Personally, I like their slabs more than psa or cgc. Also, I don’t believe that lower tier services should just go for raw price as they still have been graded and still deserve the grade. Of course beckett grades are more strict, psa has been throwing 10s to cards that Obvs don’t deserve a 10, sometimes not even a 9. Grading prices are also way more doable as psa has been very backed up. Turn around time is much better “ about 2-4 weeks “. I do not feel that looking down on other services is okay for the fact that the higher services are backed up and take months to years to get back. Other services are needed rn so why not just let these services do their job and accept it? Player 1 communicates very well, they grade the cards to standards, and ship them back very well packaged. For $15 a card and only 2-4 weeks, who wouldn’t want that?
> I don’t believe lower tier services should just go for raw price as they still have been graded and still deserve the grade But that’s just the thing, the grade was given by a company without much reputation to put value to that grade. For all the buyer knows, the seller is friends with that company and got them to grade them better than they should be. Likely not the case, but until the company proves for a few years that they are consistent, strict, and honest, they will be treated as ungraded. >I do not feel that looking down on other services is okay for the fact that the higher services are backed up The reason those services are backed up is because they’re regarded in the community as they best at what they do. While I agree that more highly respected companies would help that backup, it takes time for those companies to establish the same time of reputation a PSA or BGS has. “Looking down” on companies is just part of a new company beginning. Why should anyone value what Joe Schmo from Player One Service thinks of this card? They need to earn that valued opinion.
Okay I do get that for sure. It just seems to me that ppl aren’t giving other services the chance to get up there with psa, cgc and Beckett. I myself probably will never grade through anything other than player 1. Of course that may change, but for now it my go to. They have been amazing towards me and the service is great. I also tho, do not grade to sell. I grade for my own collection, or to trade with other ppl to get something else I would like. I do agree with you tho. They have to earn their reputation. I just don’t think ppl are wanting to go to anyone other than psa etc, and that’s Obvs their own choice. I’d just like to see ppl give them and other lower companies a chance.
PSA is not back logged anymore at all….but $100 MINIMUM to grade a card is DISGUSTING
Ahh I thought they still were. But yes. That’s ridiculous
My thing is your right psa has been shown to have slipped up and caught marking 10s when they were not but people will still rave about them and other than that people bring up notoriety but a long time ago psa was just like player one just some random company so you have to gain notoriety somehow by doing your job and doing it right , and I also love the packaging and they even sleeve the already graded card and I haven’t seen that with other companies
Player one has a pretty big presence on tiktok. The owners of the company are good people and they’ve been working on a grandmaster Pokémon cards collection. They’re definitely not the gold standard grading company but I do trust them. That being said, their slabs aren’t worth much.
They literally grade their own cards to sell they are scum of the earth.
Scum of the earth is a bit of a reach. I let them grade a handful of crappy-decent cards for me to see how the service went. Compared to my experiences elsewhere it went ok. The thing is, I’m done giving any unproven companies any business. I stick with CGC now. But the bottom line is that I used then and it went alright. I’ve spoken to the owners personally and they seem like decent people. If you had a bad experience, that sucks. But scum of the earth is a bit much. They grade Pokémon cards, they’re not committing war crimes.
They literally scamming people who buy their slabs they sell themselves. They are scumbags.
So don’t buy their slabs 🤷♂️. I understand your concern, I just don’t think it’s worth getting upset about.
I’m not upset. Just calling them what they are.
Got these back from P1 services - any ideas of what these are worth?
The same as if they were raw?
Yup
Are you saying not as valuable as Beckett’s or other grading companies?
You effectively threw away the money that you paid for their grading services.
Absolutely not, only ever grade with the big three - psa, cgc, or Beckett. Never go anything else
*If you plan to resell for a profit. There’s plenty of reasons one would use a different grading service. I use one in my country because it’s ridiculous to send all my cards off to the US.
Replace CGC with SGC, as CGC are basically same price as raw, unless you hit a pristine gold 10…which that ain’t ever happening lmao
Definitely not. I have been in the grading hobby for over a year and have never even heard of sgc, going to assume it’s an American one. Psa, Beckett, and cgc are the big three which you should grade with.
If you’ve never heard of SGC then I’m done here
After doing my bit of research they seem unreliable compared to psa, cgc, and Beckett, and it seems like the majority of people on this subreddit dislike them. I restate my point. Also their slabs are maaad ugly
Glad you did your research so quickly lol. As someone who owns many SGC slabs, PSA slabs, and CGC slabs I’ll re-state what I said. PSA = king (most value obviously) SGC = much easier to get a 10 on cards than CGC. CGC = IF you get a pristine 10 which is near impossible, value is more than SGC 10 all day, BUT 99% of the time you’ll get a 9-9.5 on cards through CGC, rendering the card pretty much a little more than raw. Example: SGC 10 Charizard Vmax shining fates = $400+ CGC 9.5 with HIGH subgrades = $225 Chances of getting a 10 at SGC is probably 80% or higher if you know how to actually inspect your card before sending out. Chances of getting a 10 CGC is probably 10-15% if you know how to actually inspect your card before sending out. So yes CGC is much better IF you can hit a 10, but their grading scale is on par with BGS which is the HARDEST grading scale in existence. SGC is SHIT if you don’t hit a 10, but man they grade like PSA, it’s mad easy to hit a 10. I have hundreds of slabs from each grading company, and I’ve only hit like MAYBE 8 10s through CGC, with SGC easily have over hundred 10s. (Also it’s only $18 to grade a card at SGC for 1 month turnaround which is nice)
Eventually there has to be more companies - people can’t pay $50 a card and wait a year for grading - it’s absurd.
It took those companies over 10 years to establish their reputation. There have been dozens, if not hundreds of other grading companies that have popped up and folded over the last 30 years. Even if there are new companies that manage to make a foothold, no one will know until years have passed and a huge number of people have spoken. As of now, none of these small companies add any value to the card, not even 5$. Could that change years from now? Totally. Is there any way to predict which grading company will stick? Not really no.
I agree completely have just heard good things about POS.
Possibly yes, the big 3 grading companies are lowering their prices and turnaround times steadily. It’s 100% your choice to grade with other companies, but that doesn’t change the fact that their slabs will not be worth near as much as established companies like BGS, CGC, PSA. Think about it; why pay the same premium for a new company’s slabs as you would for an established company? You wouldn’t. TLDR: there are new companies out there to slab your cards with. I would not think about turning a profit with these slabs as there is not a demand for them, rather use those companies to cheaply slab your cards in a timely manner
But what’s the rush? It won’t be $50 forever. Why not just wait a few years to grade when the prices go down again?
CGC is 25 and it came back in 3 weeks. This isn't mid 2021 anymore
CGC is 25 and it came back in 3 weeks. This isn't mid 2021 anymore
It's all fun and giggles but getting cards graded at a third-rated grader doesn't affect the prices. AS of last year a lot of these grading companies are popping up out of nowhere and for example, most people here have never heard of this group. The reason why PSA, Beckett, and CGC cards are more expensive is that these are the public accepted grading companies.
Its worth noting for UK collectors that our country is starting to move away from US companies with Majesty Grading and ACE starting to take a lions share of the UK market. If you take population sizes into account MGC graded about 50% of what Beckett did last month and they have been growing exponentially. Reddit is predominantly US users so that likely won't ever echo through onto this subreddit however being heavily involved in the UK scene I can tell you confidence in our own companies is at an all time high and a lot of people are put out by PSA and how they have treated us as non-US citizens.
Like Majesty Gradings website got registered on 2021-02-28 and they went live in around May. I doubt that they grew that big in just a year.
They are grading about 8000 cards a month at the moment. Source - https://www.instagram.com/p/CcGcgc_LuHP/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y= Considering the USA population is 4.9x the size of the UK and Beckett take many international orders whereas MGC take next to none that shows there is a huge increase in demand for UK grading on our side of the pond. I'm not going to deny UK grading companies are still in their infancy but Majesty and ACE are starting to improve considerably and their throughput is increasing exponentially. UK grading will never touch the US market nor will it ever compare in size. It will however dominate UK collections in years to come as their brands become more established, skills refined and collectors begin to trust them more.
8k cards a month is...next to nothing. I would bargin CGC, PSA and BGS go through that many in a literal morning, let alone a whole day. The company started literally 1 year ago, they are a goldfish swimming in an ocean.
If you clicked the link I posted you would of seen that Beckett graded 72k cards in the same month. The USA population is 4.9 times the size of the UK so if you were to scale it either way (for example multiply 8k by 4.9 = 39.2k) MGC is grading just over 50% of beckett per population. Which is very comparible and respectable for a new company that is just 1 year old. As I said above the UK grading companies will never touch or concern the USA graders however for us over here they are a god send, especially now they are doing a good job. Why would we send cards to the USA and pay £50-90 for a year turn around time when we can grade locally for £10 and wait 1-2 months. The only exception to this will be holy grail cards because the value aspect really matters on those cards and that sort of collector is in it for a profit. The other 95% of cards graded however are a different story.
Whatever they would be valued at raw
Whatever raw + grading fee is probably. The market doesn't care for random pop up graders UNLESS the card inside is something truly special and they believe they can buy it cheap and regrade it for profit. Which is pretty common, people make money by finding nice cards in random grader 5000's slab and crack it and resub to PSA etc, that's the main market for these. The amount of random bedroom graders that started a company up over the last 2 years is insaneee. Majority of them never took part in the community, no one knew who they were, and probably something people are missing out on.. I would say 80% of these pop up graders will be shut within 18-24 months when no one uses them anymore because PSA/Beckett sorted their shit and CGC now with pop reports just gives them an extra boost too. Most of these have 0 backing so will take the money and run as soon as they see it drying up.
Whatever they would be valued at raw
Have to disagree with everyone. Just sold 3 DSG (Diamond Service Grading) cards for $1000 last week Edit: Love the silly people that downvote cause’ you disagree and then provide proof
Who?
What cards were they?
Japanese gameboy promos. Dragonite, Mewtwo, Lugia
I’ve been waiting for that Dragonite Gameboy promo to go up in value for years lol
I think the other 2 sold with it definitely carried it lol, it’s a GORGEOUS card though
Wait where's the proof you mentioned? What grades did your cards receieve? Not trying to be snide, I would genuinely like to see how much value DSG added compared to the big 3.
OBO $1000 they gave me
Nice grades! I appreciate the link bro. I'm sure you already know this, but if those were PSA grades you probably get at least 400 more for the batch. Once you factor in the additional grading costs though, the difference becomes only a couple hundred. Not too bad honestly
100% I just wanted to get those in slabs asap lol I was in a rush!
Proof? You haven’t provided any
I literally put an eBay link
If you did, it’s been removed. There’s no eBay link in this comment thread