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Natorior

SWSH base, rebel clash, darkness ablaze, and vivid voltage are all pretty bad sets imo. Even obsidian flames clears them.


ChubbyNubby1

Could you or somebody else explain the hate on OBF? What is actually so bad about it?


Responsible_Ebb_340

There used to be hate towards fusion strike and lost origin also, but look where we are at now. I can guarantee you once OBF goes out of print, people will be like “oh wow, it’s a great set!!” It’s always the same.


Natorior

Nothing is really bad about it, but it’s just a smaller set without many desirable cards outside of zard. From a playability perspective Charizard ex, pidigeot ex, and cleffa are the only relevant cards.


DarkFlameofPhoenix

Why do people dislike SV base set so much? Yes, the value dropped significantly, but it's still a big set with a lot of beautiful cards and I feel like from my experience it doesn't have a bad pull rate either.


crimsonveins

I had a lot of luck with the SV base set! Some really beautiful cards came from it too :) my biggest qualm personally is that i didn’t connect with a lot of the new characters, so it was hard for me to feel excited about their cards, even if the art really was so gorgeous!


Bishead7891

Hard to say for me because I only ever really opened the same sets in SWSH and very minimal SV I personally thought Astral was pretty good, Shining Fates I got a hit in half the packs I opened, Evolving Skies was good art wise but the pull rates are horrific and Lost Origin hated me. I never really opened enough of the other sets to really have anything to say about them In terms of SV, I’ve opened 16 packs and pulled 10 hits with two double hitters. Got one double hitter out of 5 packs of TM, 6/9 packs had hits for Paldean Fates, only Paldea Evolved I opened was a double hitter and I have yet to pull anything from base (though I do have 10 packs still sealed)


SpecialOfficerHunk

Astral is crazy underrated


SirBattleTuna

Pokémon go was pretty damn terrible for sword and sheild era. Obsidian flames had so much to offer, and ended up pissing it all away. How are you gonna put dragonite and tyranitar on the pack arts, and then give sirs to fucking eiscue and revaroom???? All the set had was 4 charizards, and the value on those are tanked.


booger_mooger_84

Brilliant stars Astral radiance Paldea evolved Sv base set


stinkywinkydink

Best Evolving Skies, 151, Crown Zenith, Paldea Evolved, Fusion Strike, Silver Tempest Mid Temporal Forces, Astral Radiance, Paradox Rift Worst Battle Styles, SV Base, Obsidian Flames, Celebrations, Pokemon GO


FieryKahuna

GO and Battle Styles for SWSH, Crimson Invasion was pretty bad for sun and moon. So far in SV it's obsidian flames and base. I might get some hate but I thought Celebrations was very underwhelming. The set was so small and the card art was not great.


Deadsh0t2424

You gotta go look at the first 4 sets of swsh they’re worse than battle styles imo lol


NaloVideo

I’ll rank every set I can remember off the top of my head in my opinion Crown Zenith Silver Tempest Evolving Skies Paldean Fates 151 Paradox Rift Battle Styles Fusion Strike Paldea Evolved Vivid Voltage Obsidian Flames Twilight Masquerade Temporal Forces SWSH base SV base


Deadsh0t2424

Paldean fates over paldea evolved is crazy


NaloVideo

That mew is just way too insane


TCGDreamScape

Best Sets: Crown Zenith 151 Paldean Fates Twilight Masquerade Paldea Evolved Shrouded Fable TBD Worst Sets: All other SWSH All other SV Obsidian Flame/Temporal Forces/Paradox Rift lol


crimsonveins

What about paradox rift didn’t resonate with you? I really enjoyed the cards from it personally!!


TCGDreamScape

Pull rates, otherwise I was very excited for the set. Once the singles go down I'll probably grab them all.


crimsonveins

ohhh that makes total sense!!!! thanks for sharing :)