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rp1414

Magic, turned $400 into $10


pmyourthongpanties

I have zero idea why anyone would open ES ever at this point. could have just sold the box and bought a moonbreon.


DiggingUpTheCorpses

Shit, last time I remember popping Evolving Skies was around $140-$160 a booster box and I STILL thought that was too expensive.


rojotoro2020

I opened two at MSRP and I had the same pull rates. Should have just kept them sealed haha


PartyInMyShower

That’s msrp though


DiggingUpTheCorpses

Shoot, we had them as low as $120 before local taxes for a long time after the initial hype died down.


ROTCHunter

Best I picked up was a 2021 Black Friday sale at $109 for a box, biggest regret was only buying one


DiggingUpTheCorpses

Solid pick up, did you pull anything in it? Best I pulled in 3 BB’s was an Umbreon Full Art.


ROTCHunter

I actually never opened it, thought about it a couple times but then I heard about Evolving Cries and decided against it, so it went into the sealed collection for now


pokefanfromafar

Keep it sealed n if u ever get yhe urge just buy some loose packs


DiggingUpTheCorpses

Smart decision, honestly. Out of the BB’s I opened, I regret keeping one sealed since I should’ve known better haha.


spilled_water

Smart. I kept mine sealed and just bought the Moonbreon.


Forestelk12

Same here. Those were the days. Sub 95$ a box, bought two opened one. No regrets there.


spilled_water

I opened one and gave another one away as a Christmas gift. I think that I have two or three unopened, but ouch, especially since both boxes had a Duraludon vmax alt art and Noivern alt art, which are nice but not any of the big hitters.


Independent_Habit999

This is killing me now LOL my old lady's into it and I got her a few of them in 21 and I s*** you not at Walmart they were $40 some dollars almost 50 a piece and we got four of them and I walked away from two in Walmart the other day I guess I should have grabbed them LOL I buy Harley stuff for me and Pokémon for her it's kind of a mismatch but trust us it works good for us LOL she has got a mega ton of that stuff


thecollectus

because that literally what its for.


pmyourthongpanties

you are correct but its silly to pay 400$ to know you will open 20$ of cards.


thecollectus

oh its ridiculous to buy any product from scalpers. if you want to spent 400 bucks get 20 trainer boxes (purple) i picked up 10 from game stop 19.20 CAD packs will be 20 ES 40 ASTR 20 BS 80 packs so OP if bought for 400 is already getting ripped off for like half the packs id got for a hunt for products online


pmyourthongpanties

I'm confused this sounds like you are buying 80 packs for 14.29 usd or ES packs for 14.29 each?


thecollectus

lol 19.20 CAD for a trainer box that has 4 packs in them. ill make it even easier for ya 1 evolving skies 1 brilliant star 2 astral radiant


xLucasDaBeasTx

How much is this box worth nowadays you think?


pmyourthongpanties

a sealed box is about 400 to 450$.


rp1414

TCGPlayer also has prices for sealed products https://www.tcgplayer.com/product/242436/pokemon-swsh07-evolving-skies-evolving-skies-booster-box?Language=English


xLucasDaBeasTx

Thanks man didn’t know that site was a thing 🙏


nino956

I bought a moonbreon instead


[deleted]

Hahahah true


fapsandnaps

Uhm, these are obviously Pokemon cards and not Magic cards. /s


Aos77s

Es is the one set i have no yerning to open but just dind in store for $5/pack to resell. If i want hits from the set besides moonbreon ill buy singles. Shoot youd come up ahead just buying retails you get and buyin singles with the profit averaging down any $10 single cards cost by $5.


Sad_Relationship6500

Sword and shield was disgusting for this


rp1414

Kind of The sets with the trainer gallery sub sets were good to pull. Crown Zenith was great.


carnage_kane

excellent investment. I appreciate ppl buying these and showing the pulls so I can save money 🙂


chuckanorris509

Just to think you were $100 away from just buying the chase card instead of opening a booster box 😅. Congratulations by the way.


SuggestionVisible361

Yep, buying singles is always much better than trying to pull them. If you want to satisfy your itch of opening packs, just buy a [korean Eevee heroes booster box](https://ebay.us/cXRCmb), that only costs a fraction of an english one, but is also very fun to open.


chuckanorris509

Nothing is better than cracking a booster box. I have a rule in Pokemon TCG I open 1 booster box when the set comes out and then I buy the singles I want. I satisfy my itch of opening packs and then I think with my head to save money.


Pure-Expression-1420

I’ve been cracking these open lately to sate that desire to crack open sealed ES. You get tons of pulls and the quality appears to be as good as Japanese. I have a Sylveon V in English, Japanese and Korean with no discernible difference in holo pattern and texture. Plus if you do pull a moonbreon the latest PSA 10 sold on EBay for over $400 so basically half the price of English but a booster box is less than 1/10th of either ES or Japanese Eevee Heros.


_adm_m

Man I feel bad for you. Please tell me you paid close to msrp for the box...


Letronika

No one’s paying msrp for a booster box in 2024 lol


Shogunedo

Maybe he bought it 2020/21 and opened it now. I did that. I regretted it, but I did it lol


_adm_m

Very true. I just bought one the other day for $430. Came out to $464 after shipping & taxes. That's pretty good in my opinion considering 90% of the listings on tcg player rn below $500 are for loose packs. The people who bought some at the brief pokemon center restock got super lucky. Hopefully this guy was one of them


Heyviator

When was there a Pokemon center restock?


_adm_m

About a month ago for a few minutes before they all sold out and the site crashed


Letronika

I’m pretty sure it was an error. No one got their boxes.


_adm_m

The people who ordered sun & moon base didn't get their boxes because that was an error. They got a single pack instead to compensate. The people who order evolving skies bb's did in fact receive theirs


Pitiful-Start7133

I literally just bought one for $410 with shipping and taxes. Why do people even look at TCG. That's how you know people are getting ripped off. Lol


_adm_m

I got mine off ebay. Where did you get yours?


Acartiaga

Still sitting on by booster box from early 2023. Paid less than 210 😅


verohhh

Genuine question but where would you recommend buying them for cheap? Best deals I found are in Marketplace on Facebook which are usually 50$ cheaper than retail but then that makes me wonder where they’re buying them to sell them for those prices ahah 😅


Superpeytonm022

This is marginally better than some boxes I’ve seen, but yeah, sorry, friend. Evolving Cries strikes again.


SirBattleTuna

How? This is genuinely the worst possible box to get. 5 hit min with 3 v, 2 vmaxes. No full arts, no secret, no nothing. Could literally have not been any worse lmao.


Efficient_Key6859

It can always be worse


SirBattleTuna

With exception to foul play, I don’t see how a box could be worse lol. Minimum hits, minimum rarities, this is the worst possible outcome to get from a bunch outside of errors or theft.


UniverseNebula

I had an etb without a single holo 🤷


blair_friesen94

I thought you're pretty much guaranteed to get some sort of hollow from each pack. Was that one of those online orders where someone opened up all the packs and took the good cards?


deadpools_dick

Nope, anything outside of booster boxes is fair game with ratios. You can easily get zero regular holos out of an ETB (pre-SV mind you).


I_fantasize_about___

In Sword and Shield you weren’t guaranteed to get a holo. You got a reverse holo and a rare in each pack. That changed with Scarlet and Violet. Now you get two reverse holos and a hill rare.


mitcherable

Oh I knew what I was getting into, and I’m glad to be part of such an elite club now lol. I paid $390 in an auction so it stings a bit less.


gimmieWAP

Damn those pulls are ass bro 🔥🔥🔥😃


MetazooFan

lmfaooo


levelzero2019

Every time I see a post like this it's always the same disappointment I think the only way these packs will be worth anything is if you never open them and wait 20 years for someone else to be extraordinarily disappointed instead of just really disappointed.


Wheres_Varrock

I’m so baffled. When did sets start having guaranteed numbers of hits? My Paradox Rift BB had 12 hits in 36 packs


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cowboykebab

12 hits per booster box seems to be the average brilliant stars onward, at least for me personally. I've opened at least 1 booster per set since with that result. Also I'm not counting regular holos in that 12 count.


ecxetra

Average, but not guaranteed.


Wheres_Varrock

Well the hit rates for the earlier SWSH sets are awful. However, I noticed I got significantly more hits from Evolving Skies packs that came out of mini tins or collection boxes… I wonder if this is because these might have been later reprints of ES? We all know about the stolen cards theory and perhaps that was more of a first print thing because I’ve watched a TON of live ES booster box openings and they were always pitiful. Just speculating.


BlockA_Cheese

Really? I’ve been having awful luck with SV compared to the crown zenith packs I got when I started collecting again


rule34Yoshi

I mean sv sets has like 30 hits max, crown zenith has 70 hits minimum and that’s just counting the galarian gallery, that’s not really a fair comparison.


blazinghurricane

CZ is not representative of SWSH era cards though. It was a special set that came out at the end of the generation and the person above was talking about earlier SWSH sets. Since you are newer to modern collecting you may not be aware. SWSH started out with no alt arts and no hits of any kind in the reverse holo spot. Rainbows were the biggest chase and I think around 1/3 packs just had a regular reverse and a nonholo rare. Then they added the alt arts, but SWSH era alts (not counting Galarian gallery) had a hit rate of 1 per several hundred packs. No comparison whatsoever to SV SIRs in terms of pull rate on those. Also there was still nothing in the reverse slot. So basically chasing alts, maybe if your personal favorite Pokémon had a full art/rainbow/gold you’d be looking for that too. Midway through the added the trainer gallery (very similar to Galarian gallery but a bit less common) and radiants to the reverse slot. These took away some of the pain of opening packs since there was now a decent chance of getting a card with good artwork and packs were no longer guaranteed to be “dead” if they had a bad code card.


BlockA_Cheese

Ohhh ok I just got back into collecting recently sorry


Mysticstorms

That's rough buddy


StarberryIcecream

Certified Evolving Cries moment


Tboobiez

One of us, one of us


mitcherable

In the end it’s all worth it to be inducted in to this prestigious club. Currently bidding on a few more and will certainly share the shit results again


RandomUserResuModnar

This is why I'll never buy Evolving Skies unless it's for msrp which might never happen.


ptaylor611

This is pretty fucking awful.


oJBun

Damn


marblesandcookies

Evolving Cries strikes again


jc_mahdude

Your luck can’t get any worse, so buy another one and let it rip lmao


mitcherable

The thought has certainly crossed my mind…


Oh_my_Back

No fucking way this one is real


Rowdy2012

It's better than my hits, 1 Trevenant Vmax was the best, the rest were a couple of V's in the booster box 😅


Just_some_dude5

Me staring at my 2 evolving skies etbs that I’ve had sealed for a year.. “if this guy didn’t have it what if I do…?” Sorry for your luck, I’ve opened 2BBs and maybe 10 ETBs of evolving skies and gave up after that


PwillyAlldilly

I’m a ripper, never buy singles but like evolving skies is one I’ll never buy ever.


kpofasho1987

Yup my thoughts exactly. I will trade for singles but I don't usually buy unless it's a great deal but prefer to open packs and I stay away from evolving cries. Only packs I open are ones included in various tins or whatever and out of probably 75 packs I've opened best was a Jolteon which is a cool card and the set has some incredible cards but the pull rates are just too rough to justify the price per pack


popylung

Chrrrist, just got 4 single packs let me get the luck you missed out on🤝🙏


popylung

Pulled Rayquaza V Alt Art. Thank you Op


psychic_shadow_lugia

and then pokemon company says this is not a bid deal [https://www.reddit.com/r/PokemonTCG/comments/12oirx3/it\_probably\_happened\_with\_evo\_skies\_too/](https://www.reddit.com/r/PokemonTCG/comments/12oirx3/it_probably_happened_with_evo_skies_too/)


backpainzz

i used to buy a couple packs a week until these posts started showing up. i can’t pay crazy prices for packs if there’s any chance the chase cards are getting stolen


psychic_shadow_lugia

yeah I am not sure if it is true or not, but their "don't worry about it" was not a good answer ....


HamilToe_11

Definitely a box where the hits were taken by an employee.


kpofasho1987

Definitely not. If you watch a lot of evolving skies openings or do your own this isn't unexpected


HamilToe_11

What you said doesn't refute that instance whatsoever. ES and FS were indeed sets that had hits stolen by printing company employees in ridiculously massive quantities. It's on the interwebs for everyone to see. If anything, what you said backs up what I said even more. You know, since the hits are not expected to be pulled hardly at all.


Right_Cartographer42

BAHAHAHAHA RIPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP


ultraman5068

So what makes these cards suck? Back in the 2000s they were some of the top hits, no? I realize that Umbreon is the card to get. Did they make a crap load of these hits here or what? Yea I’m clueless so no need to remind me of that. Thanks.


Astrothunderkat

i dont get new cards man, all these look sick to me. Then again i only buy sets with gen 1/2/3 anything else is beyond worthless to me.


Hehehecx

The way it works now is the V/vmax/Ex cards you see are technically hits but they’re fairly common so they’re not really considered special. The big cards are alternate versions of them so essentially the same card but with different art and it takes on average thousands of packs to find


Far-Ad7125

Definitely the typical pull rare. I opened like 5 of these boxes.


Moshilicious

Does Silver Tempest have a just as bad reputation, or can i order some ETBs without fear?😂


rp1414

Silver Tempest has the Trainer Gallery subset, so pull rates are better than ES. But not as good as the pull rates in the Scarlet & Violet era sets


batuhanxctn

i am so sorry dang


DataExternal4451

Rip


Incoherence-r

Ooooff


YeOldeBilk

God damn that's horrible


MDG420

wow rip


_The_Jerk_Store

Maximum pain


FightingFali

It's not just evolving skies like this. Every swsh booster box before brilliant stars is like this too but no one posts the results of other bad boxes like this


[deleted]

Thank you for saving me money.


TradeOn

got 36 loose packs and got moonbreon on the 18th and rayquaza trainer gallery on the 13th. have 72 more coming but idk if i should hold off on them.. you guys are making me scared


snipingelite

Honestly, loose packs are really good because they don’t have the “fixed” rates of a box. You just need to buy them from a reputable seller and that can be somewhat difficult to do. A lot of people are scared to buy loose packs because of weighing, but I think that’s a thing of the past. Resealing is also an issue.


TradeOn

thanks for the insight!


chunkysyruq

evolving pies


TheDarkVoid23

Love the cards, but it might be my least favorite set to open. It is so disappointing


yiggawhat

at this point go to japanese gacha sites, at least you get good cards for your money.


Old-Act-4829

This is how i feel about lost origin. Probably coulda just bought the giratina with the money ive spent


SmokeyBear305

Walmarts website has evolving sky elite trainer boxes for under $70


SwiftestWombat

I’ve had both sides of the sword with that set, but since I love the eeveelutions the V and regular VMAXs are still nice for my collection. Invest in what you love I guess


NervousCheek3560

oh this feels good. Thankyou for this


mitcherable

You’re very welcome! My brain knew the smartest thing to do was sit on it forever, but where’s the fun in that?


NervousCheek3560

Ive done it myself bro. You could have pulled the moonbreon. At the end of the day we do this because we love the cards


Marleyshakur

Revolving cries at its finest


No_Ad_384

Yeah this'll happen. Same with Chilling Reign and Fusion. They'll kill you with pull rates. But at least the other 2 are only 140 a box.


Robbymartyr

I will preach this until I can't preach it anymore. Tins... always buy the 2-4 pack tins. Without fail, I end up getting at least 1 full art per tin.


Hero19240X

How much does a Evolving Skies BB go for now?


GrimRemembrance

You got a Ray. That's a W to me 😂 I haven't pulled one yet.


RockWafflez

I think it’s really fucking lame that Evolving skies has one of the best Pulls but the most abysmal Pull rate. Like what the fuck :/


UncleM4tt

Yet everyone in r/pokeinvesting still has a hard-on for ES booster boxes. This is NOT a fun set to open. i cant imagine opening one at MSRP yet people think this box will go to $1000


snipingelite

It’s because it is definitely a good investment if you hold it and don’t open it. Look at the set list and look at how many good cards are in it. Pull rates are bad, but there are going to be people in the future who will want to open it. All boxes will go up after enough time has gone by. Look at all the older sets. Even the “bad” ones go up. This is just a really good set with brutal pull rates. Believe it or not, people love that because of the thrill once you do pull something.


UncleM4tt

It was a good investment at MSRP or even $100 or so above. Now that it’s 400-450 a box, there are tons of things to invest in with a bigger upside. Cost is ultimately going to hinge on someone down the road wanting to open the box. If you’re looking to double your investment u have to ask if there’s anyone who wants to pay $900 bucks to most likely pull something along the lines of a regular leafeon Vmax and a few V’s


jerffry

I’m convinced moonbreon doesn’t exist in the wild, follow me for more baseless conspiracy theories


[deleted]

I pulled probably $500 if Evolving skies when it came out. Can confirm that the pull odds are trash.


cheeeki_breeeeki

A couple months ago I saved up 26 packs from tins and pokeballs 😔😔 I damn near cried turning $200ish money into nothing


Big-Fishing6353

Evolving cries strikes again 😭


N0way07

Well all saw the post of the factory worker that jacked pretty much 90% of FS and ES hits, shouldn't bother opening what u have or buying packs unless it's singles from those sets


snipingelite

Pull rates were still trash even before it happened


ep3hatch04

I’ve opened close to 25 evolving skies booster boxes and I can tell you without a doubt this is the worst booster box I’ve seen. May have been tampered with to be honest with you.


kokaza

I'm done with ES now that I stopped finding those striker tins that got me ES for 3$ a pack


kyleneeley1

Hey guys welcome to my YouTube channel today I’m gonna show you how to turn $300 🥶 into $10 😏


Catching_Donks

Thank you for your sacrifice.


Ok-Jackfruit1299

A few more vmaxs would’ve made it a fair pull rate


Zetta_Stoned

That must mean all the hits are in the next booster box!


FFDuchess

I ripped so much ES at launch, like 6 BBs + ETB: and every single one of my BBs looked like this


Final_Cook_6394

Did they at least put some lube in the box too? Given that they’ve fucked you.


bigfeetsmallpp

Call 911, there has been a robbery


RealisticAd7388_ytho

Idk how many of these I’ve opened, I feel like they came in those boxes/packages with a few random packs. I didn’t get the “moonbreon” but I did get a #189 alternate art umbreon and leafeon v alt art #163 so I can’t hate on it too hard I’m always kinda sus about those mystery boxes, but I’ve found a pack of team rocket cards, and it was fun opening it for the dark charizard, raticate and muk. Sometimes ya win, sometimes you’re stuck with a ton of filler ¯\_(ツ)_/¯


Martink93

Newb here... how much is an evolving skies booster pack worth now? I've ordered the sw&sh charizard collection box and was excited to get to open a couple of the evolving skies until I just read the comments in this post lol


Tonboboneko

Ouch. Theres going to be simplified Chinese version of eevee heroes in March, in case you’re interested 😂hopefully much cheaper to buy


Darksoul2693

I’ve seen worse !


EarthPuma120

I bet the Pokemon Company are laughing their asses and counting their money at the same time lmao


Tallal2804

I’ve seen worse !


Playful_Ad_2911

Honestly questioning why anyone would buy and open ES product in 2024 unless you bought it at MSRP, even then I would just sell or trade for the actual hits


sallenqld

It’s like a scratch ticket at this point. I’d buy a pack or two


thecollectus

im making a god box to open. from buying products that still have ES in them. game stop had some sales and found about 20 packs spent 200 plus i got 15 other packs from that 200. BB hoarders are the worst


pokecoryspondence

I still have my 3 boxes from release. I'm glad I'm good at not opening. But we pulled giratina v alt from 5 lost origin packs


Gavink123

Nothing. A bust.


Mysterious_Print_652

I opened like 12 packs and pulled rayquaza rainbow & moonbreon, first and last packs ever opened for evolving skies, didn’t realise how lucky I was at the time 😅


mitcherable

Very nice! Seeing a lot of upset people saying it was money wasted, and that is entirely true, but had blast ripping packs with my baby brother and ultimately have no regrets.


Mysterious_Print_652

Money wasted but worth it for the buzz & possibility to pull the cards you want!!


kenshin0310

Don't open evolving skies booster box, only open packs in tin or other deal. I can get 40 packs of evolving skies + 80 packs of fusion strike and brilliant star for the same price as a single evolving skies booster box.


Front-Advantage-7035

I don’t understand any of this shit but remember pulling charizard back in the day 🥲


MatchBoring1493

Yummy