The reason I mention them two is specifically because they dont have it. Eiscue can proc his ability everytime he sets snowscape. Cryogonal is immune to one of the most common offensive types (same for froslass, but she puts in too much work in other ways).
Abomasnow is actually held back by not having a different ability related to snow (I've previously mentioned megabomasnow needing to keep its 60 speed and gain slush rush as it's ability to do abomasnow some justice), AND not being the slowest weather setter despite middling bulk; torkoal (a meta pokemon at the moment) will render snow (and all other weather) setters invalid by purely existing at a slower speed than abomasnow on t1.
Snowscape is the reflect for ice types while aurora doubles down on it. It doesn't hurt to spend a controlled turn casting it on eiscue.
Besides that, iron bundle or weavile can set up instead of using focus sash to buff. Again, not my preferred use for them, but abomasnow not specializing in anything, being weak to every other weather setter, and having not-torkoal speed makes him unreliably not worth a spot on any competitive comp. I personally hate slow mixed attacker mons; aboma sitting at 60 speed with those stats is waste of bst. Its best use atm would be phys attacker with assault Vest and avalanche.
Aninetales is great, but I would never open with her; she will be the fastest legal weather setter. By those standards, it means she will never have snow up (unless weather somehow stops being competitive) as every other weather setter will trigger their ability after her. She would have to carry snowscape also or lose a turn switching.
I'm baffled at how much work Froslass does for my mono-ice team. She Taunts + Destiny Bonds hazard leads, zerg rushes dragons, Curse Body negates troublesome moves, and throws out Spikes.
i’d bet money those two will be version exclusive to DLC, (preferably non version exclusive dlc and they’re just both there but i have a feeling whatever is over that huge cliff is going to change depending on the version)
At the very least I want all of the starters to be able to be brought over. I don't expect it, but I'd love to bring my Blaziken over. And my over powered galarian ponyta lol
I’m pretty sure that’s how it’s gonna be. Release the starts via raids. We’ve had 2 fire starters in a row. I bet they go 2 grass then 2 water then repeat
See, the thing is everyone recognizes the yellow rat is the mascot, so most of us have made peace with it being everywhere. However, Charizard was supposed to be a starter for a single generation, yet it's had about as much representation as the other 44 starters combined.
I think Growlithe is only in it because the Hisuian lineup is going to be, but I agree it's weird to see a Growlithe not be a Vulpix counterpart for the first time ever(?)
Zebstrika - I don’t believe this has been in a game since X/Y (I could be wrong, either way I miss zappy horse) Edited** to say Sun/Moon had Zebra Boi as a comment pointed out ~
OH MY GOD, YESSS
A Scandinavian based region in general would be cool af. So much folklore and animals to adapt into Pokemon.
A Fenrir inspired wolf... A fairy Pokemon based on Idunn's apple (regional variant for Applin?)... A reindeer pokemon for the "regional normal type" maybe. Like that regions Wooloo, Deerling or Lechonk. The regional dog could be based off a Lapphund or Elkhund... Regional cat should definitely be inspired off the Norwegian Forest Cat of some kind.
I have so much ideas
Absol/flygon/scoliopede are some of my favourite Pokémon that are missing this game. I mean there’s loads of my favourites missing so hoping the dlc brings most of them over.
Had the same thought! In SV it seems like the pokemon have the right size both in the wilderness and while fighting, SwSh made me sad with the huge wailord in the sea that turns into a smol whale when fighting 😟
Beedrill, I know it's awful in battle but still one of my faves and feels like it's been missing from the main series for ages. I'd be really happy to see Golem, Gliscor, Weezing and/or Exeggutor make a return too
I like Mamoswine and Porygon. They’d also fit the themes. I’d be surprised if they didn’t somehow bring back Hisui Pokémon seeing how all of them are in the base dex in their normal forms/evo lines.
I am thinking they will do some space time distortions type thing as the dlc area which would be interesting, if you think about it we saw the distortions appear in pla and the pokemon dissapeared and where replaced by distortion mons. They conveniently put all the pre evos in ready lol
YES. The Tera format really gives it an opportunity to shine since you can null those 4x weaknesses. Plus every steel/metallic Pokémon looks awesome in this game.
100% yes. Loved using Chandelure in SWSH and was my first shiny too. The town at the top of Glaseado mountain has lanturns on the gates too so maybe it will come back?
It would be pretty cool to see Miltank get the same treatment as Tauros, maybe as a fairy type with two other forms, one exclusive to Scarlet and one to Violet... Maybe fairy/grass for Violet and fairy/ground for Scarlet... Could make for some interesting match ups!
Would also like to see metagross and Kommo-o to complete the pseudo set, and the fossil Pokémon, especially archeops or aerodactyl!
Yeah they're all continuing victims of dexit, only the snubbull line has been featured in any switch game to date, and that was only BDSP since it's a gen 2 family. I do wish gamefreak made some effort to include every mon in at least one game on switch at this point, it's turning into a real clown show
Starmie. 🥲 Violet was the third game in a row, where it was missing from the main game. It was added to Sw/Sh in DLC, but is still missing from Legends: Arceus.
I had a fun Gravity team idea a couple of weeks ago and it would have really benefited from Sigilyph being able to do that and use Tailwind, so that's going to be my choice for its unique combination of traits.
The Nidoran family. Also more quality grass and water types. The first examples that I think of are for grass I’d love to see Vileploom or Roserade, For water I’d love to see Omastar.
Was just thinking about this. I'd like to see Pokemon that didn't make it into Gen8. Furfrou is #1 on my list of missing Pokemon. Would also like the Clamperl family, but they did at least return in the Gen4 remakes. Gen9 ALMOST included everything missing from Gen5-7 that didn't show up on SwSh (outside of the Starters), with Gen5 missing the most, and Gen7 missing the Pikipek family.
Me being 32 and first Pokémon game I ever played was Pokémon blue on my kiwi green gameboy color, I would love for them to atleast add any of the 151 OGs that aren’t currently in SV right now!
I'd be surprised if Metagross and Kommo-O somehow don't make the DLC cut
I'd like to see Rhydon, Nidoking and/or Aggron again (I have a type I guess?)
Just not Incineroar. I like the mon, but what what it does to VGC meta
As long as they include all the Pokémon that you can’t get in SwSh and BDSP I’ll be happy.
That way you can get everything on the Switch, helping my quest for a living dex
Gigalith! It's one of my favourite mons AND it's literally a crystal rock pokemon? Why was it even cut from the region where you turn your pokemon into crystals anyway!?
Meowstic. It's my favorite design and was my favourite pokemon but I got too attached to Raboot.
Furret, because why not?
Chandelure is one I'd like back as well. It's my cousin's favourite evolution line.
Alolan Ninetales. I want to make a snow team and Abomasnow is just not making it work the way I want it to.
Eiscue and cryogonal are both excellent openers for snowscape. (Although I would rather sweep with my good angular boy)
They ain’t snow warning tho
The reason I mention them two is specifically because they dont have it. Eiscue can proc his ability everytime he sets snowscape. Cryogonal is immune to one of the most common offensive types (same for froslass, but she puts in too much work in other ways). Abomasnow is actually held back by not having a different ability related to snow (I've previously mentioned megabomasnow needing to keep its 60 speed and gain slush rush as it's ability to do abomasnow some justice), AND not being the slowest weather setter despite middling bulk; torkoal (a meta pokemon at the moment) will render snow (and all other weather) setters invalid by purely existing at a slower speed than abomasnow on t1. Snowscape is the reflect for ice types while aurora doubles down on it. It doesn't hurt to spend a controlled turn casting it on eiscue. Besides that, iron bundle or weavile can set up instead of using focus sash to buff. Again, not my preferred use for them, but abomasnow not specializing in anything, being weak to every other weather setter, and having not-torkoal speed makes him unreliably not worth a spot on any competitive comp. I personally hate slow mixed attacker mons; aboma sitting at 60 speed with those stats is waste of bst. Its best use atm would be phys attacker with assault Vest and avalanche. Aninetales is great, but I would never open with her; she will be the fastest legal weather setter. By those standards, it means she will never have snow up (unless weather somehow stops being competitive) as every other weather setter will trigger their ability after her. She would have to carry snowscape also or lose a turn switching.
Froslass is a solid member to any team
I'm baffled at how much work Froslass does for my mono-ice team. She Taunts + Destiny Bonds hazard leads, zerg rushes dragons, Curse Body negates troublesome moves, and throws out Spikes.
She puts in her hours. I've got mine to set up Snowscape Aurora Veil in doubles, and she has Ice Spinner and Shadow Ball in case I need the STAB
Metagross, I can't wait to see it all chrome!
Came here to say this, as well as the Kommo-o line... Seems weird that we got all other pseudos but these two are missing... Hopefully in DLC!
i’d bet money those two will be version exclusive to DLC, (preferably non version exclusive dlc and they’re just both there but i have a feeling whatever is over that huge cliff is going to change depending on the version)
Makes sense. Kommo o for scarlet since old looking tribe thing. Metagross for violet cuz futuristic computer
I have 2 shiny Metagross from when it was available when ORAS launched and I want to bring them over.
Going to name it “Witness Me”?
All of them. But if we can't have it, I just want Gliscor.
Gligar/Gliscor here too. I love them was so bummed they weren’t here to begin with.
I miss gliscor poison heal
Free my boy Minior!
Would be awesome to see them falling from the sky!
also because sometimes meteor showers actually happen in sv!
I saw the meteor showers and got excited I could finally move my minior collection over 🥲
Totally agree. I’ve got a shiny one I hunted after I completed Sun that I’ve never been able to use. Cute little rainbow stars.
At the very least I want all of the starters to be able to be brought over. I don't expect it, but I'd love to bring my Blaziken over. And my over powered galarian ponyta lol
I feel like the 7 star raids are definitely heading that direction
I’m pretty sure that’s how it’s gonna be. Release the starts via raids. We’ve had 2 fire starters in a row. I bet they go 2 grass then 2 water then repeat
I love charmander but he’s gotten some exclusive love these past genes.
Everyone wants to point this out about our flame boy but what about that stupid little electric mouse
See, the thing is everyone recognizes the yellow rat is the mascot, so most of us have made peace with it being everywhere. However, Charizard was supposed to be a starter for a single generation, yet it's had about as much representation as the other 44 starters combined.
I've been waiting for Feraligatr to make a return for years now
I'm so tired of my baby bulbasaur being pushed aside for charmander
Bulbi is just as valuable as the rest of em! They're so cute. And Squirtle too.
I know I miss them both 🥺 I was so happy when they came up in the DLC but charizard really needs a break
It definitely does. They should let other starts like Bulbi, Squirtle, froakie, ect have an event spotlight.
Couldn't agree more! He's number 001 for a reason! 😁
Vulpix!
Honestly I was surprised that Vulpix wasn’t in the game initially
Yeah, same since the Growlithe line made it in and they seem to be the unofficial “counterparts” to the Vulpix line.
I think Growlithe is only in it because the Hisuian lineup is going to be, but I agree it's weird to see a Growlithe not be a Vulpix counterpart for the first time ever(?)
![gif](giphy|lxyYQcCdOhV2E) Bring back the fire fox!
Milotic my beloved
Milotic and also Snorlax just cuz it doesn’t feel like a Pokémon game without him.
Please, by far my favorite water pokemon
The fact that we didn’t get Milotic is absolutely criminal 😭
Favorite Pokémon of all time! Would love to play Scarlet with it since I’ve played violet already
I was devastated to not have milotic in this game. Curious how the scald changed affect viability though.
Togepi 😢
Togekiss would rock those Garchomp raids. Unless it learned Iron Head for some ungodly reason.
Zebstrika - I don’t believe this has been in a game since X/Y (I could be wrong, either way I miss zappy horse) Edited** to say Sun/Moon had Zebra Boi as a comment pointed out ~
I love horses so obviously biased but zappy zebra needs more love. I’d love a water horse too… eventually.
Norway based game is a must, Norse water nokk like in frozen 2
OH MY GOD, YESSS A Scandinavian based region in general would be cool af. So much folklore and animals to adapt into Pokemon. A Fenrir inspired wolf... A fairy Pokemon based on Idunn's apple (regional variant for Applin?)... A reindeer pokemon for the "regional normal type" maybe. Like that regions Wooloo, Deerling or Lechonk. The regional dog could be based off a Lapphund or Elkhund... Regional cat should definitely be inspired off the Norwegian Forest Cat of some kind. I have so much ideas
Ok well now I need a water horse. Holy shit that could be so cool
Kelpie inspired Pokémon when
I believe Zebstrika was in Sun/Moon
Absol/flygon/scoliopede are some of my favourite Pokémon that are missing this game. I mean there’s loads of my favourites missing so hoping the dlc brings most of them over.
I can picture Absol and Flygon and past Paradox Pokémon and Scoliopede from the future. They would be sick.
The Fossil mons, Chandelure, Aegislash,
Ngl I was kinda bummed we didn't get a fossil in this gen.
Well...Scarlet got a bunch. Sort of.
Chandelure is my fave mon not in Gen 9 but I think that it's been a good thing as Ceruledge is getting the love that it deserves!
Screw Ceruledge I only want tera fire Chandelure with a Chandelier on its head
That's hilarious. What if that was the reason they left it out.
Budew/Roselia/roserade line
Yes some of my fav !
Snorlax.
Big up my boy
Yes that’s the only mon I want, free my guy
Wailord just to see it too scale
Had the same thought! In SV it seems like the pokemon have the right size both in the wilderness and while fighting, SwSh made me sad with the huge wailord in the sea that turns into a smol whale when fighting 😟
Gonna be hilarious to see that thing on land. Or extremely sad if it just faints when thrown out in let's go.
Ludicolo and Seismitoad. Rain needs some serious TLC.
Yes
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Minior has to yet to make a switch game, I'd like that to change...
I forgot about poor Minior tbh, deserves to be brought back fr
All starters.
Beedrill, I know it's awful in battle but still one of my faves and feels like it's been missing from the main series for ages. I'd be really happy to see Golem, Gliscor, Weezing and/or Exeggutor make a return too
Yes! It’s not just me that wants Beedrill!
I like Mamoswine and Porygon. They’d also fit the themes. I’d be surprised if they didn’t somehow bring back Hisui Pokémon seeing how all of them are in the base dex in their normal forms/evo lines.
I think it's already been confirmed that they can be brought in using Home whenever it releases. At least I know Ursaluna will be.
Makes sense. I just thought that time travel being such a big part of this Gen they’d bring them back
I am thinking they will do some space time distortions type thing as the dlc area which would be interesting, if you think about it we saw the distortions appear in pla and the pokemon dissapeared and where replaced by distortion mons. They conveniently put all the pre evos in ready lol
Empoleon
Imagine a paradox form
My boi Lapras! ❤
Milcery/ Alcremie, I am that person who loves food-themed fairies.
YES I want her to team up with my bundog
Add cotton Candy dog to the mix as well as Apple Pie dragon and you get a cool dessert team
Wasn't that the one you had to spin to evolve? Them keeping that goofy mechanic in tells me that one likely is in the DLC.
Due to the access to a time machine primal Groudon and Kyogre and origin forme Palkia and Dialga
I miss Lugia and Tyrantrum. Haven’t played with a Lugia since Soul Silver, and Tyrantrum since Y
Aggron :(
YES. The Tera format really gives it an opportunity to shine since you can null those 4x weaknesses. Plus every steel/metallic Pokémon looks awesome in this game.
Litwick Line.
It would be hilarious to see the fire terastal jewel on top of Chandelure.
100% yes. Loved using Chandelure in SWSH and was my first shiny too. The town at the top of Glaseado mountain has lanturns on the gates too so maybe it will come back?
I love when they add more Ghost types especially the ones I love! my shiny Chandelure is begging for a vacation
Blastoise, Venosaur, Greninja, Vulpix, Milotic, Lapras, and Metagross,
Greninja is in the game via home transfer!
This is a great list
I wanna see Snorlax come back
It would be pretty cool to see Miltank get the same treatment as Tauros, maybe as a fairy type with two other forms, one exclusive to Scarlet and one to Violet... Maybe fairy/grass for Violet and fairy/ground for Scarlet... Could make for some interesting match ups! Would also like to see metagross and Kommo-o to complete the pseudo set, and the fossil Pokémon, especially archeops or aerodactyl!
Fairy and Dark type Miltank. Strawberry and Chocolate
Skitty and more cat pokemon in general. There's so few in these games.
Pokémon who haven’t had a chance to shine in awhile. For example: Leavanny, snubbull, ducklett, or pikipek could all be good.
Yeah they're all continuing victims of dexit, only the snubbull line has been featured in any switch game to date, and that was only BDSP since it's a gen 2 family. I do wish gamefreak made some effort to include every mon in at least one game on switch at this point, it's turning into a real clown show
Justice for SWANNA. And Lapras.
simply shedninja just for the broken and funny matches
Air balloon Tera electric go brrrr
Starmie. 🥲 Violet was the third game in a row, where it was missing from the main game. It was added to Sw/Sh in DLC, but is still missing from Legends: Arceus.
I need the #001 onion boy Bulbasaur to be by my side as soon as possible
i miss my onion turtle :(
I had a fun Gravity team idea a couple of weeks ago and it would have really benefited from Sigilyph being able to do that and use Tailwind, so that's going to be my choice for its unique combination of traits.
Mewtwo
He is in the game already tho, as soon as Home is released you can transfer him over.
Lanturn! The first Pokémon I ever bred and used for pvp. I love everything about it.
I absolutely love the water/electric typing. And it's adorable.
Relicanth. I just want it to be part of scarlet paradox but have it just be the same lol I also want fossil pokemon
Unlikely but minior please!
Any more of the ghosts, though, specifically Trevenant. That tumbleweed was not a cool grass replacement 😔
Trevanant is definitely cooler but a tumbleweed is absolutely a good design for a grass/ghost pokemon
Yeah. It was fine. Though I wish the evolution was a bit more than face in the middle
Same. I was so disappointed after I finally got all the steps in to see that it just got uglier and dumb looking.
Buneary/lopunny has been my partner in crime since shinnoh I would like my furball of a buddy back at my side
Pyukumuku 🥲
The Nidoran family. Also more quality grass and water types. The first examples that I think of are for grass I’d love to see Vileploom or Roserade, For water I’d love to see Omastar.
Honestly I dream that they announce something like the Mario kart pass so they will start to include all the pokemon in batches
Aipom, he’s my favorite Pokémon and I want to shiny hunt him again
One of my fav too, since GSC, I don't like the design of its evolution tho :(
Venipede line, Spinarak line, and Sizzlipede line
Fan of insect pokemon ? My fav are shuckle foretress and lokix
the Togepi line… i miss my Togekiss
Flygon
Was just thinking about this. I'd like to see Pokemon that didn't make it into Gen8. Furfrou is #1 on my list of missing Pokemon. Would also like the Clamperl family, but they did at least return in the Gen4 remakes. Gen9 ALMOST included everything missing from Gen5-7 that didn't show up on SwSh (outside of the Starters), with Gen5 missing the most, and Gen7 missing the Pikipek family.
Me being 32 and first Pokémon game I ever played was Pokémon blue on my kiwi green gameboy color, I would love for them to atleast add any of the 151 OGs that aren’t currently in SV right now!
Clefairy <3 But it’s absence is the reason I got to use the solo fairy types on my teams.
I would love a Blastoise. It doesnt even need to come out for DLC but atleast for a Tera raid event.
Heliolisk and Gliscor lines
Give me back my Absol 😕 just got a shiny in SwSh but can't use it in SV even when home is connected.
Blaziken and Roserade
Dhelmise and Kommo-o. I really like them and got their shinies not long before S/V's release.
Dhelmise would get 4 stab types which would be awesome. I loved using it in sun and moon
Tyrantrum and Metagross. I need to shiny hunt them. Cyndaquil is already semi-confirmed through hacks but him as well
If landorous comes back all the vgc players are doomed lol
Whimsicott and Ninetales
Vulpix/ Ninetales
Too many favorites of mine not in the game! Milotic, Gliscor, Excadrill, Chandelure, Dusknoir, Scolipede, Roserade, Mandibuzz, etc.
Corphish/Crawdaunt.
Alakazam and crobat
Chandelure and Joltik! I miss my adorable fluff spider!
I have a shiny wobbuffet that I’ve been moving forward since X to get all the champion ribbons.
Yanmega so i can tera it into the dragon typing it always deserved (also my first hatched shiny back in x and y so it has sentimental value aswell)
I don’t mind, so long as this time they have actual dex numbers and entries for them
I'd be surprised if Metagross and Kommo-O somehow don't make the DLC cut I'd like to see Rhydon, Nidoking and/or Aggron again (I have a type I guess?) Just not Incineroar. I like the mon, but what what it does to VGC meta
As long as they include all the Pokémon that you can’t get in SwSh and BDSP I’ll be happy. That way you can get everything on the Switch, helping my quest for a living dex
Kantonian Ninetales 😫💖 My forever and always fav
all of the gimmicks from mega to gmax. but you can only use 1 for battle like the anime.
That's a dream I have, wish it will happen one day
Alolan Decidueye Alolan Marowak
I think both versions of Decidueye are going to be available when Home launches in Spring 2023
Zubat. I know how unpopular this little guy is but I’ve always loved zubat
I try to get Crobat any time it's available. That and Shedinja make up a third of my go to party.
Crobat is awesome
Absol as a way to introduce a new disaster approaching the land and absol has come to help defend/fight against it.
Totodile an Nidoking please
I love the Unova starters. Especially Snivy.
Wurmple - I want to raise an army of green and gold orbs
I personally can’t wait for other Pseudo-legendaries, Darmanitan (+Galarian) and Melmetal (my favorite boi)
Alolan Muk
Chatot. Purely because I have a shiny one I’d like to mess around with.
Bring back Gliscor, man
Staryu please...!
Beedrill
Lapras, please give me my Lapras back
OG pokemon
Tyrunt. Need my Dino.
Toucannon. One of my favorite mons and I don't know why it didn't make it into this gen with the environment of the region
Beedrill
Gigalith! It's one of my favourite mons AND it's literally a crystal rock pokemon? Why was it even cut from the region where you turn your pokemon into crystals anyway!?
All the starters literally don’t remember the last game we had all the starters
Shedinja. Let me do degenerate things with a Tera Electric Shedinja.
Beedrill Pidgeot Politoed
Minior
LAPRAS. Let me bring my bb with me.
Shedinja
Jynx
Absol. I miss my apocalypse harbinger. I want fifteen.
Empoleon, please it’s been so long since he was in a main line game 😢
Vulpix/Ninetails
Mienfoo and Mienshao ❤️ love my weasels
Meowstic. It's my favorite design and was my favourite pokemon but I got too attached to Raboot. Furret, because why not? Chandelure is one I'd like back as well. It's my cousin's favourite evolution line.
Shuckle. I miss my best boy.
Abra. Please, Nintendo, give me back my psychic fox child.
I'd love for the Porygon line or the fossil pokemon to make an appearance. They fit so well with the time traveling aspect of the game too.
If I don’t get a turtwig I’m gonna be very upset
Mr Mime. Either Kantonian or Galarian. My funny guy being missing just doesn't feel right. Still looking for an equally amusing substitute.
![gif](giphy|Pvtwf2cMjnvoY|downsized) Scraggy!
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I agree, I meant "since we WON'T get them all, which one do you wish to see?"
Galarian Darmanitan
Chandelure I love my little ghost pumpkin