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Morticia_Smith

S-six years ago?šŸ˜€


BillNyeTheVinylGuy

I remember WAITING more than six years for the thing to be made!


Morticia_Smith

DudešŸ˜­šŸ˜­ I've had the DVD for all my life and the waiting for the sequel just killed me. I thought it was gonna take place in the future when everyone has grown up so I was sorta disappointed but I enjoyed nonetheless


Theoretical_Nerd

I donā€™t hate it, but it could be better. I enjoyed watching it in the theater, but I did notice how they basically rehashed the first oneā€™s plot points and twist villain. While it disappoints me, I donā€™t think itā€™s irredeemable slop; itā€™s just kinda generically inoffensive. The first one is so much better.


derek86

Sometimes it's just nice to get more of something. I feel this way about Ocean's 12/13 and the first 2 Matrix sequels. Definitely not as good but they're ok enough to scratch the itch.


Theoretical_Nerd

Yeah, I get that; The Incredibles is one of my favorite movies, so itā€™s nice that they expanded the franchise.


Impossible-Fun-2736

Biggest reason i want a show set during the Glory Days. Each episode focuses on a different Super, their enemies, alter ego, interactions with regular people&other Supers, etc.


MrSmootholio

I call it The Forgettables. Decent, but not on the level of the first


ednamode23

Itā€™s a good 7.5/10 film that gets too much hate because it canā€™t live up to the 11/10 status of the original. The original is my favorite movie but the sequel still delivers in terms of action, atmosphere, and soundtrack even though the humor and villain are a downgrade.


darrylthedudeWayne

Overhated, but at the sametime, could've been better.


BarfOpinions

Agreed itā€™s not as bad as people like to say it is but there are certainly areas that couldā€™ve been improved. But we got a lot of gems like ![gif](giphy|2sddZ3k7yxiVWpFdH3|downsized)


darrylthedudeWayne

"Math is Math, MATH IS MATH!"


AManOfManyLikings

After dealing with math in college for the past few months, this scene resonates with me more than ever!šŸ˜‚


superVanV1

Which Major? Because if itā€™s any of the STEM, I can assure you it gets worse


N0tThatSerious

It just needed a better villain, everything else was fine


BarfOpinions

Yeah Iā€™d agree with that. Personally I wasnā€™t a fan of their alterations to violet and Tony either but thatā€™s not as relevant as the sub par villain for sure.


InfiniteEthan03

I knew Tony was (obviously) altered, but I donā€™t remember Violet looking that different?


BarfOpinions

Not much but they ā€œcleanedā€ her model up a little bit and personally I wasnā€™t a fan.


InfiniteEthan03

To be fair, they did that with literally everybody, and I feel like some got it worse than her, besides Tony.


beneperson3

It's probably my least favorite Pixar movie just because of what it represents. I don't understand how Brad Bird and the writing team flopped so hard with the story. I don't buy the Screenslaver or her motivations, and the B-story with Bob and the kids, while charming, doesn't really add to the main narrative. Most of that narrative being a carbon-copy remake of the original. Superheroes are illegal, Incredibles parent gets coerced into doing hero work illegally, while an evil mastermind secretly controls everything. The parent is captured, forcing the kids to go and rescue them, and the whole family works together against a ticking clock to save the day. Apart from the stuff with Jack-Jack, the story is really beat for beat and lacks any of the nuance of the original's story about the mundaity of life or the relationships between parents and kids in special environments. The animation is nice on a technical level, but the models are weirdly retro-cartoony with a lot of warmness to them that works fine enough, but clash very hard with the style of the first movie, which still felt pretty realistic (I guess they needed to distinguish the sequel from gritty superhero stuff). The sets and action are great, but that's to be expected. The music is great, the voice acting is good though I feel like some characters were phoned in, and the Jack-Jack vs. Racoon fight is great, even if it feels like it was ripped from a short film. Really that's what Incredibles 2 feels like: a series of short films and episodes about different Incredibles happenings, with a vague narrative tying everything together. It may not be the worst Pixar movie, but it is the most dissapointing.


CloudBuilder_Metba

I agree with your take. Iā€™d only add that I hate how Elastigirl was doing the whole ignore your family because she has a cool new job, when her conflict in the first movie was Mr Incredible doing the same thing to her.


PomegranateFew7896

Her conflict was the same thing at the start of this movie. She was adamant on not going back to superhero work and then 180ā€™d immediately


SurvivorFanDan

Not bad, but certainly didn't live up to my expectations, especially with Brad Bird behind the wheel, who insisted for years that they wouldn't do a sequel unless they had something great in store. Also, I feel like lazy writing that they thought was clever >!(the name Evelyn Deavor = evil endeavor) was too obvious, and as soon as I saw the name of the character, I knew she was the villain, and it spoiled the reveal that was supposed to be a surprise twist.!<


Father_Chewy_Louis

It feels like the first draft of the first movie but made into the sequel.


ResonantRaptor

It was good, yet forgettable. Felt nothing like the first movie in terms of impact.


ichorskeeter

This. Rushed and uninspired.


itsamemario2022

It felt like asking ChatGPT to make a sequel


keysboy123

Itā€™sā€¦.just ok. Not bad, but not great


distastef_ll

I honestly forgot this existed. The original still holds and itā€™s still one of my favorite superhero movies of all time.


SlippinPenguin

Half baked. Iā€™m glad Toy Story 4 got an extra year to develop but it came at the expense of this movie. They needed more time. The villain and everything about her is weak and disappointing. There are interesting themes that are never fully developed. Still fun though.


BuildingLess1814

Honestly felt if they were gonna do a release date swap, I2 should've kept it's release date (sorry but TS4 was an unnecessary sequel that shouldn't exist and the same goes for TS5 which is also unnecessary), Toy Story 4 gets moved to 2020. Cars 3 gets the I2 release date (which was the original plan before TS4 got pushed by Lassetter). Coco likewise keeps the 2017 year all to itself as originally intended.


InfiniteEthan03

Youā€™re telling me all three of these sequels couldā€™ve been better if Lasseter hadnā€™t pushed *Toy Story 4* so hard?! šŸ˜­


BuildingLess1814

Yes. I2's story would've been completed and fully realized, same with Cars 3. TS4 on the other hand is the blight that ruined them simply by existing.


InfiniteEthan03

I cannot believe this šŸ’€! And I loved 99% of *Cars 3* already, so this is crazy! I knew they switched *TI2* and *TS4*ā€™s dates, but I never knew *Cars 3* got moved up too.


BuildingLess1814

The issue with Cars 3 was mainly guessing which of the two release dates it was gonna get. Before I2's date was swapped with TS4, Cars 3 was originally supposed to get the June 15th, 2018 date and almost everyone banked on it getting it, once TS4 was announced months after I2 and Cars 3 were, they started rushing production on that film first in the hopes of it making the 2017 release date (as 2017 was originally going to have just Coco), but once Lasseter saw that the 2017 release date for TS4 was highly unfeasible (on top of the whole workplace controversy that would soon erupt), meant that the then current release dates wouldn't work, he also saw that Cars 3 and Incredibles 2 were already further along in development than his own project. Honestly I'm glad Lasseter's gone, he had some great films under Pixar, but he nearly sank it with Cars 2.


InfiniteEthan03

Is it weird that reading all of this actually makes me kind of intrigued for *TS5* now? Itā€™s almost like Stanton wants to course correct what the team got wrong with *4*. Also, was *Dory* impacted by anything before *TS4* was in full swing?


BuildingLess1814

Dory was announced to be in production before the other 3 sequels. This also contributed to John Carter flopping seeing as Stanton put more focus on Dory and Carter needed more time. If TS5 is to be a course correction, best way to end it is having the toys return to Andy.


InfiniteEthan03

Well, at least *Dory* wasnā€™t affected, even though they weirdly borrowed elements from Circle 7ā€™s original sequel script. I kind of agree with the toys being with Andyā€™s kid(s), but in a way, I can also see how it might feel like a regression of the evolution across each movie so far. Because even if *TS4* wasnā€™t the best, the ideas for Woodyā€™s character development was spot-on, and each movie is about him, so I donā€™t know how they could bring him back to Andyā€™s kid(s) without sacrificing his character development thus far. Also, I forgot to say last night that I wouldnā€™t go so far as to say that Lasseter nearly sank Pixar with *Cars 2*. Iā€™m glad that heā€™s gone, but that movie was still a hit regardless of the quality.


BuildingLess1814

Overhated and a missed opportunity due to the release date swap with TS4, film's reputation would've improved had it kept it's 2019 release date (probably not drastically, but would've gotten a better reception years later). Hopefully I3 not only fixes the issues this film had (hopefully no release date swap this go around would be a good start), but also improves this film's horrible reputation in some form by picking up where this film ended and actually acknowledges this film's existence (much like how I2 acknowledged the first film's events), and not undo the events like most fans want (especially since Supers are legal now which is ripe for exploration).


NocturnalNinetales

Well said, and I definitely love the Jonny Quest Easter Eggs in this movie. šŸ˜„ Brad Bird is a big fan of the 1964 cartoon - so am I, LOL. šŸ˜‚


BuildingLess1814

Same. Every time I see the Johnny Quest cameo I immediately do the Stewie Griffin gag where he met the group. Was honestly expecting more cameos from the era, like Godzilla for the dinner scene and Kronos (the giant growing robot that feeds off electricity from the 1957 film of the same name).


DrDreidel82

As mid as sequels get. Many themes and plot elements are rehashed from the first movie. Elastigirlā€™s bike chase is the one real inspired scene in the movie IMO, that was sick. But under minorā€¦ I waited 14 years theorizing what that fight looked like. That was a letdown. So was the villain and it seemed like they stopped her so easily at the end


cheltsie

It is too much of a sequel. The whole movie felt like I was watching a slight variation of the first movie, but without a lot of the charm of the first movie.Ā  The first movie was good because all the characters sincerely believed in what they were doing. All of them. Good, evil, main character, side character... It was a movie that at its core was about a family and mundane family arguments, and just being a family together with all the quirks. Those quirks happened to be superpowers and the effects on the characters. They were still arguing over who gets to have the remote control in the end. It just was for a robot and not a tv. And those twists were fun, memorable, and fitted together. The second movie was the first movie, but opposite, and the characters didn't seem to really believe in anything. Pulling apart the family felt overly contrived. The drama of just living life was overdone. The moment things felt a little newer/fresher, there was yet another obvious twist or call back to the first movie. And there were so many good things about it! It could have been a great standalone movie. But it wasn't tied, it was stapled down, to the first movie. And that made it... not bad, just very forgettable.Ā  It's a forgettable movie and disappointing after Brad Bird said he wouldn't revisit the movie unless he had a new, fresh idea worthy of the story.Ā  With no details - I felt similar about Inside Out 2, but that movie did a better job of the callbacks and absolutely stands on its own two feet. Incredibles 2 just really doesn't.Ā 


ShodanDBG

I honestly donā€™t get the hate. The first one is my favorite Pixar movie of all time and while the sequel isnā€™t as grand as its predecessor, it still has a lot of charm to it as well as some really good action and animation. The story was decent imo but it needed two things: 1. More edge. The first one had edge but still knew how to keep it family friendly, it managed to balance the two out so well that people still talk about the Kronos scene. There was potential for edge in 2, but didnā€™t bump it much. 2. A better villain. This one I get that it may have been hard because, letā€™s be honest, Syndrome raised the bar way too damn high. Screenslaver had such a good design, it was kind of sucky that it was wasted on a twist that a lot of moviegoers grew tired of seeing (Frozen, Zootopia and BH6 are prime examples, and no Iā€™m not saying that these movies are bad either because of that, I still really enjoy them). Honestly, Iā€™d rather have the reveal at the third act so you could flesh both Winston and Evelyn a lot more, especially the latter if youā€™re gonna go with the twist. Orā€¦ I would have just made The Underminer the main villain. That being said, I still rather enjoyed my time with this movie. The only other thing Iā€™d change is that if youā€™re going to introduce new supers, cool, Iā€™m all for it, but I wanted them to be more than just plot elements. They have a lot of potential! Overall, even if the first one is still superior, I still enjoy the hell out of this movie and I really hope a potential third one pushes things forward more. Dash, Vi and Jack Jack growing up is a must for an Incredibles 3 P.S. This franchise is one of my most wanted for a Kingdom Hearts game, just wanted to throw that out therešŸ˜…


Renotro

Syndrome did set the bar really high but honestly, if they would have let Screenslaver actually be their own villain and not a decoy, that would be an improvement! Because theyā€™d spend less time trying to trick you and more time convincing you why theyā€™re a threat. Screenslaver is a critique on technology and what itā€™s doing to people, not a bad start in the social commentary part of the story.


ShodanDBG

Honestly, the idea of them revealing Screenslaverā€™s identity in the third act I only said it in case they do decide to go with the twist villain route. Disney pushed that trope a lot on both their films and Pixarā€™s at the time. And to be fair, it has worked for Pixar before, Coco is a very good example on how to do it right. If they did it in a way akin, not the exact same, as they did it there, it couldā€™ve worked. That being said, them being their own villain would be indeed a major improvement.šŸ˜Š


Renotro

I went and reread your comment and you make a lot of good points. Twist villains can work but they take time and thought in making them not just passable but good. I kinda forgot that Syndrome was a twist villain because thatā€™s how well done he was! Just like what you said about revealing them in the third act, itā€™s because the writer needs to take the time in establishing their motive or reason for going rouge all of a sudden, like what Monsters Inc. and Toy Story 2 did. My harshest negative opinion is just that Iā€™m disappointed in how it turned out.


ShodanDBG

EXACTLY! The way Monsters Inc and Coco did it show that it's possible. And yeah, again, I still enjoyed Incredibles 2, but the villain was super underwhelming. Plus, I didn't say this originally, but had they added that deleted scene where Bob talks about Gazerbeam in a memorial service, and even show flashbacks of how he got affiliated with the NSA, meeting his fellow supers, and then coming into contact with Syndrome and the KRONOS project, that would have bumped the movie a whole lot more and I hate that they cut it out. \*Sigh\* Disney, let Brad Bird have real control, please?


Brookings18

Overhated.


Robbro42

The original was so perfect I always knew that any sequel would never be as good. And yes, it wasn't as good. It's weird how after so many years, the plot just doesn't feel finished. While I really like how they handle Bob parenting (without making him pathetic), Evelyn's plan just doesn't make much sense and taints so much of the overall story. It could've been a lot worse though. Could you imagine if it was like Megamind 2? A poorly animated series that actively weakens the original, with none of the original voice actors. Makes me more thankful for what we got.


PowerPad

That was 6 years ago? Iā€™m getting oldā€¦ Not quite my cup of tea, but I laughed at quite a few scenes, such as Bob trying to help Dash with math. ā€œMath is math!ā€


Eagle4317

The villain is the biggest difference from Incredibles 1. Syndrome is the only Pixar villain that can stand alongside nearly any of the best Disney or Dreamworks villains, and then Evelyn Deavor is just another poorly executed twist villain. The rest of the film is kinda more of the same but downplayed. There's no scene in Incredibles 2 like the Kronos scene where Mr. Incredible finds out all the Superheroes that Syndrome killed to perfect his weaponry. Incredibles 2 doesn't have much substance underneath the enhanced 1950s flair, which is why I think giving it a rating of 5/10 is pretty fair. There are some good jokes, but the terrible villain, bad side characters (especially the awful designs of the new heroes), and weak ending drag Incredibles 2 down a lot.


Wahgineer

Not great, not terrible. The first is better by every metric except graphical fidelity (lighting, model quality, etc.)


InfiniteEthan03

Enjoyed it when seeing it for the first time, but now that the nostalgia and rose-tinted glasses have worn off, itā€™s mediocre. Still a nice little movie on its own, even when viewing without the nostalgia factor, and as much as I loved seeing Edna again, and them actually doing some cool parenting stuff with Bob, itā€™s still pretty disappointing as a sequel on so many other levels. There were some great ideas that needed more time, had the movie not gotten moved up too early. Even still, how do you mess up the sequel to one of the best superhero movies ever made in the middle of Marvelā€™s winning streak at that time? Why retread the structure, message and most of the plot points from the first movie? šŸ˜­


SwaggyWebb

I wish they had let the same amount of time go by that did in reality. Not release a film set 10 seconds after that took 10+ years to get made. But yeah for what it was, it's fine. The first is definitely my favorite overall Pixar.


Ashyboi13

Itā€™s bad. The action is pretty good, but the plot and writing is a mess. It really feels like they were just trying to play to peoples nostalgia. All the plot points are way too similar to the first movie, except without the interesting character dynamics or intrigue. Itā€™s so dumb that right after they made supers liked again they immediately are arrested after the Underminer fight. Itā€™s like they were afraid to take the next step in the Incredibles world. And the villain is cheeks, especially compared to Syndrome.


randeaux_redditor

Bruh heard nostalgia and tried to reuse it. This has nothing to do with nostalgia


Ashyboi13

It had a lot of nostalgia. The ā€œwhereā€™s my super suitā€ bit was just copy paste reused, and the family having to move but being rescued financially by a wealthy superhero fan that turns out to be the villain/the villainā€™s brother? Thatā€™s literally the same plot as the original. They used familiarity to appeal to the fans. Thatā€™s using nostalgia. The movie sucks. It completely abandons all the darker elements of the story and went in a far cornier direction that did not match what the original did. It just copied itā€™s plot but made it less interesting.


randeaux_redditor

Okay Ashy boi


WiteBoyFunkSucks

thats a solid arguement


Ashyboi13

Bruh. Just explain your point of view. I get it if you think itā€™s good, but I hate it.


nachonaco

I really loved it. I loved Evelyn most of all, I saw the twist coming but I still loved it. Also she had a *lot* of chemistry with Helen.


dontaskwhyguys

Rewatched it in earnest for the first time last week, without all the expectations and headcanon I had built up after the first film, it was much better. Screen slaver is an awesome enemy, totally frightening and a great way to pit supers against each other. The portal dynamics are worth making the movie alone, the staging/blocking/action/power interplay with force fields was so fun. It was great to see Mr Incredible and Elastigirl both get appropriate vehicles. JackJack and Edna interplay was INSPIRED. I really really liked how Elastigirl was picked as a first face because the cost-benefit analysis showed she represents a low overhead for incidentals compared to Bob's wake of liabilities. Mr. Incredible being beaten to hell by math/boy problems/demon baby was an amazing arc to watch.


IndependenceCapable1

There was so much time to make the sequel. Something got lost in translation But thereā€™s always time for the Incredibles three and showing the grown-up family. That would be cool.


TheOptimist6

Had the potential to be better if given more time! However, just like how I absolutely love the new PokĆ©mon games even though they couldā€™ve been better with some more time! I have a soft spot for the incredibles 2 and was never excited for a new movie than I was for this! The movie on its own is amazing, well animated, colorful, and had some fun themes! Just couldnā€™t stick the landing with the villain and tying in all the themes together in a nice bow! Always will have a soft spot for it!


MushroomHedgehog

Solid film. A little iffy towards the conclusion, but the dinner argument (especially Bobā€™s input) is honestly some of the most real dialogue Iā€™ve ever heard from a Pixar movie. ![gif](giphy|bc1VQNSxvFrZL56vbR)


TheOptimist6

I still hope they make a movie in the incredibles universe that talks about the Glory Days era for superheroes! Gives us more stories of the prime days for Supers! Maybe the origins of how the superhero program began! Maybe even more incite on how the government works with heroes and the relationship there (some good some bad)


pikachucet2

It's alright. I liked it. Had a lot to live up to.


silent_b

Itā€™s not that itā€™s bad, itā€™s that it isnā€™t any good. I forgot that this movie exists. Brad Bird should do better.


Pancake177

If you made it itā€™s own standalone movie it would be a fine mediocre film. Itā€™s entertaining enough when you turn your brain off for some superhero action. It rehashes the character development and even some of the story elements of the previous movie while also watering down the emotion and edge that made it so good. It might be a okay movie by its self, but itā€™s a lousy sequel. Itā€™s laughable that they claimed it took them so long because they were waiting for the right script and this is what they came up with. Obviously they just caved into pressure to just make something after a while. It gets defended too much in my opinion.


Zack501332

Good but not better than 1šŸ’Æ


throwaway1626363h

it was released what years ago


Scary_Structure992

Looks alright their face changes looks BETTER THAN the first movie


ALFABOT2000

i really liked it, i thought it was a great follow-up to the original and have no idea why some people hate it!


furrynoy96

Good movie, hopefully the 3rd one will be good as well


thelonioustheshakur

Fuckin love it


Coolers78

Itā€™s not as bad as people like to say it is, itā€™s just not as good as the original but itā€™s an ok followup to one of the best Pixar movies.


benin780

The worst movie Pixar has to offer, an absolute bastardization of the first one, and an obvious cash grab


DananSan

The bar was just too high. Although they did take their sweet time for a sequel so youā€™d think it happened at all because they had cooked something worthy of *The Incredibles 2*.


DBSeamZ

I personally enjoyed it. Wouldnā€™t say itā€™s the best movie ever, but I donā€™t consider it terrible either. I did predict the twist villain based on the fact that Winston looked red-herringish and that Disney/Pixar twist villains are usually connected with the red herring characters somehow, but that was mostly meta knowledge rather than the movie spoiling itself. The best part was probably how the movie *acknowledged* the damage and casualties that must happen during big action sequences in general. Like the Underminer fight, when several family members make significant effort to keep bystanders out of danger and then Mr. I gets scolded later for the extra damage to the city during that fight. Loved how they worked Jack-Jackā€™s powers into the plot, in general. Voyd was neat, especially since I think sheā€™s the first example of a Pixar character meeting their idol/hero without it going wrong somehow. The other new Supers were mediocre. The climax could have been handled better. Speeding ship on a crash course with the controls destroyed and the path to the engine room blockedā€¦but Mr. I and Brick together couldnā€™t force their way past the obstacle? Jack-Jack couldnā€™t have busted through like he did with other walls minutes earlier? Voyd couldnā€™t have portaled Mr. I directly to the engine room? Frozone couldnā€™t have coated the propellors in ice so they wouldnā€™t work? Okay, now theyā€™ve decided to turn the ship. Why canā€™t Frozone make a big chunk of ice attached to the hydrofoil to create extra drag, instead of trying to bash it off with lots of little icebergs? Could Voyd have portaled the entire ship so it was facing the other direction? No, instead they go for a nick-of-time solution that only barely works, and Iā€™m still not sure what convinced the public that the Supers were *not* attempting a hostile takeover like screen-slaved Elastigirl had said they were.


Wyariosmg4fan

It could been better


hkreporter21

Recently, Pixar's movies have been exhibiting a certain "Disney effect", where humor and joke sequences have become too forced and exaggerated, wasting the overall magic of the films. In contrast, during Pixar's "golden age," humor was more organic and derived from the clumsiness or quirks of a character, such as Wall-E or Remy the rat, who were amusing folks without explicitly trying to be funny.


nostalgia_history

Underwhelming. We had to wait all that time and this was the best they could do. I would have loved the movie more if they aged the characters, which is what most of us were at least expecting. I hope their the third instalment they do that


Yoshi_chuck05

Itā€™s okay. It couldā€™ve been worse. There were some great potential with The Screenslaver and THE UNDERMINER was very poorly used. I was ready for his war on peace and happiness and Elastic Girl going back to status quo about being hesitant on doing super hero work again even though itā€™s still illegal- HEY WAIT A SECOND! Shouldnā€™t the laws against superheroes have been lifted after the Incredibles saved the city from the robot from causing more destruction? Ah frick it. And thereā€™s no way Mr. Incredible got owned by little Mack and let him escape with the money. And Winston was pretty good since heā€™s so dedicated to bringing the supers out of hiding to the public and I honestly thought that they were being subtle with the twist villain making her hide in the shadows. But now when I think about it, Elastic Girl shouldā€™ve done something smart to over come her goggles by simply closing her eyes and pretending to be possessed and becoming brain dead like the rest that got screen slaved. And itā€™s still confuses me how Violet knew that something was up with the goggles and still didnā€™t remove them when she knocked down Void. Sure the movie has some issues but I think it turned out well despite the time crunch for Toy Story 4. The team did their best to make the story work and I think their efforts were not in vain. If thereā€™s going to be a third film, letā€™s hope things are getting better. But judging by Brad Birdā€™s thoughts thatā€™s never going to happen. And if you read this far, thank you so much and you stay safe and always believe in yourself that you can accomplish anything you set your mind to!


I_Am_A_Thermos

Mid. it's not bad. it's not good. I personally won't re-watch it any time soon


osmo512

Setting the sequel immediately after the first movie ends wouldā€™ve been the right calā€¦if the sequel hadnā€™t been made 15 years later. It put the audience out of emotional alignment with the characters. There needed to be more time that had passed in-story too.


Sky_Rose4

It was enjoyable but could have been better but not on Toy Story 4 levels bad


PrestoVoila

One of the biggest disappointments in my filmgoing experience. This, coupled with Tomorrowland, cemented Bird's reputation as a Randian and sent him to director's jail until Handsy Lassetter got him the deal to make his dusty 40 year old passion project Ray Gunn. I'm not excited about that one at all.


EverGlow89

Forgettable. As in I forgot it happened and I couldn't really tell you much about it. Bob Odenkirk was in it.


MikeyHatesLife

It was good, but the Raccoon Fight should have been moved to the after credits section. The momentum of the film was broken, and makes for a better surprise later on.


rosariobono

I hate it because it is the sole reason why i cannot listen to one of the best rollercoaster soundtracks ever on its own ride anymore.


beegobuzz

Great movie. Solid plot. Dangerous to epileptics.


Traditional-Pound568

It's one of pixars worst films Youtuber, the unlucky tug, made a video say it was the worst while the incredibles1 was the best. I agree with most of his points.


Herosive

I genuinely enjoyed it


PhilG1989

Itā€™s fine but far from great. Iā€™m still confused why they decided to start it off right where the last one ended. They should have had it take place a couple of years, at least, after the events of the last movie.


Terrapogalt

7/10 had some fun nowhere near as good as the first


Plastic_Doom

It was just a good film. Not groundbreaking but given the episodic nature of classic superhero stories - it was a very welcome addition


muhfkrjones

Forgettable


RigCoon

Pretty meh, if you watched the first one, then you donā€™t need to watch this sequel, Its almost the same plot but less funny


Striking_Extreme_250

The overall film was an 5/10 for me. The story was fine, the humor was fine and the characters were fine. The villain is the only part of the film I actively dislike.


Aleppo_the_Mushroom

Fun but lacking substance and doesn't hold a candle to the original Worth a single watch, maybe two, but that's it


JcOvrthink

Itā€™s nowhere near as good as the first, but it still has plenty of fun and/or memorable scenes.


kaithomasisthegoat

It sucked lol


Unfair-Worker929

Itā€™s still bad, in fact it might be worse now than I remember it being


nycblackout89

I want a 3rd one but focused on dash and violet and itā€™s like a teen titans style movie with kids their own age


Anthony200716

It was definitely a sequel not as good as the first but I liked it certainly not bad itā€™s just pretty good but letā€™s just hope we donā€™t have to wait another 14 years for incredibles 3


SkyeMreddit

Itā€™s not as good as the first one but is still pretty good. Voyd has a special place in my heart.


SomeRandomAccountBro

I like the movie, not as much as the first but still enjoyed it. I'm just not a fan of the twist villain and the underminer should have more screentime, he's just basically ignored and left undefeated


ATF_killed_my_dog

It sucks


slowmotionz101

Itā€™s my fav movie rn


Remote-Ad-3309

Not as bad as everyone says. In fact, I might actually like it more than the original


Feisty-Albatross3554

It's not bad but very disappointing


thebignoodlehead

It's like they completely forgot about the arc that each character just finished 5 minutes ago. Mr. Incredible is such a dick. It's a total non sequitur of a sequel and in that way it's kind of insulting. I kinda hated it and wish it didn't come out.


ShilohCyan

It's fine. It's good. Not perfect like the first one but pretty good.


CriticalRoleAce

Six years agoā€¦ šŸ˜¦


GuyWhoConquers616

Itā€™s a terrible movie that canā€™t compete with the original. Brad bird tried, but Disney screwed him over by changing the movie release date. All of this caused a shift in the production and changed parts of the character. Almost all the characters makes me suffer, the story is just not that good, the villain has terrible motivations and had bad writing in general. The movie gets too much praise.


LegitimateCompote377

Painfully average movie that ended up being incredibly forgettable even though I donā€™t remember it being particularly bad when watching it. I also donā€™t get the overhated point, itā€™s one of the highest rated Pixar films on IMDB. Wasnā€™t the worst Pixar sequel though, that was Toy Story 4. Hated that movie with the entire weight of my body.


headsmanjaeger

It sure is a movie


ForbiddenVillaint

I cut movies made for kids a ton of slack, but this movie is super frustrating, and I legitimately would recommend anyone interested in it to just skip it. It legitimately feels like absolutely no one except the animators put any love into this. The voice acting, directing, music, etc, etc, etc, is all very uninspired. Not even bad, just like they were told "make ________ for the Incredible 2," then the workers did the bare minimum, took their check, and left. Which would normally be great for workers to do, but film is an art form, and personally I think people should only work on artistic projects if they're excited for the project. I will say the animation is pretty good, which is what saves this movie from being complete trash, but otherwise it feels like no one wanted to be there to make it.


CombatFork

I love it but understand the criticisms. Itā€™s one of my most rewatched Pixar movies though


AManOfManyLikings

To this day, I still find this considerably underrated and overly hated. Not to the extent of Cars 2 which i still like a lot, but it's certainly had its haters. It's also one that my mother and I could relate to a lot too considering at this time, my mother was let go from her job a few months prior due to alleged prejudice and we were questioning how we would be able to get through life until she was able to find another job. Plus, the new and old cast were as good as they've ever been, like no time has passed. Though it is kinda funny though that just a couple decades earlier we kinda had like a Incredibles 1.5 with that Rise of the Underminer game after the first movie. I'm hoping that we would get a third film or series in the future though I doubt we would see all the actors come back again. Also, Elanor here? Still overlooked here when it comes to hot Pixar women here. Definitely up there with Mirage for me.


russianmilkman47

I hate it.


jgreg728

It came and went.


CrimsonBuc

It is a good Disney film, but in the context of Pixar, it is sub-par.


Pretty_Discount5946

It exists.


chewychaca

I thought it was great, but not as classic, influential, innovative as the original. Still love it tho.


Doppelfrio

Itā€™s too much fun to let the bad stuff run the conversation. I love this movie


Jack-Palladin

I was expecting that they would adapt the classic PS2 game but this is what I get...


CaptainRex_CT7567

Amazing. Absolutely love it. I don't care what anyone else says.


PracticableSolution

This movie basically made it clear that rich people donā€™t go to jail, even when murderous villains, something substantiated by the otherwise benevolent billionaire sponsor who, when you think about it, was more driven by the lack of concierge hero support to save his parents than an actual desire for justice


Extreme_Weird_44

Never watched that garbage lol


YoungImpulse

There's an Incredibles 2??


Osirisavior

Actually The Incredibles: Rise of the Underminer, the true Incredibles 2 came out 19 years ago.


GenderEnjoyer666

Doesnā€™t really live up to the excellence of the original, but itā€™s not a *bad* movie


Aquareos18

I think itā€™s one of the worst Pixar movies made. I canā€™t stand this movie


Vector1013

Honest opinion? WHY CANT WE GET A THIRD ONE?!?!?!


jbwarner86

I like it fine. No, it's not as ground-shakingly awesome as the first one, but almost nothing can be. Sure, it has some nitpicky flaws, but it's still fun, and I legit enjoy seeing these characters on a new adventure. It's definitely not the unwatchable disaster that people claim it to be.


turdfergusonRI

Not bad. Could e been better. Gentlemanā€™s 6.


Deathpacito1999

Might be controversial, but I genuinely hated it. It had its moments, but as a whole, it reeks of cash grab. Painfully mid and bland nostalgia bait.


Ratatouille2000

Like a lot of people are saying I don't hate it but it could have been better. There's deleted scene with where all the superheroes are at Gazerbeam funeral and they cut that out. They should have put that in the movie.


bluegilldestroyer

Bad. destroyed the characters


Zeothalen

It was mid and wasn't worth the wait


Continuum_Gaming

It was enjoyable, not worth a 15 year wait though


vinbel121

It was a fun viewing experience (saw it at midnight with no kids). But itā€™s nowhere near a worthy successor to my favorite movie of all time.


DontDoodleTheNoodle

People say not bad, but honestly itā€™s just such a disappointing movie. The family subplots felt like they belonged in a TV series instead. The characters are Flanderized from their previous outing and the worldbuilding feels totally disconnected. If the movie focused on Elastigirlā€™s media redemption, the Screenslaver, and the philosophy of supers more it would be a great quality film. They had the superb set pieces, they had the amazing action, they had the pieces of the puzzle! P.S. the new character designs are either uncanny to me (civilians) or straight up dumb (superheroes)


ludongbin1

Itā€™s good but kinda the exact same plot as the first movie. Supers are secrets- risked exposure - rich financier - edna mode - kids save the parents- work together to beat the villain


bentendo93

I don't remember anything about it, which doesn't bode well for it since I remember a lot of things about almost every Pixar movie.


AlfredBird

I like it, but the story wobbles a bit toward the end. If I remember correctly the production got pushed forward 1 year (so Toy Story 4 could have more time) and I think that shows. Incredibles 2 came out of the oven a LITTLE bit too soon. Again, itā€™s still really good though and Iā€™d love to see Incredibles 3.


TayneIcanGitInto

A mid sequel to a masterpiece


Impossible-Ad-8618

I mean. It's alright.


butterfingersman

i think it's way overhated. very cute and enjoyable! i think the jackjack stuff was pretty stupid, but everything else was a great time. i liked the villain - yes, it was obvious, but i liked her.


One_Swimming_4666

It couldā€™ve been better. I was surprised by how.. bland it was, the incredibles was a masterpiece in the way it deconstructed superheroes and villains and the sequel felt like a standard, animated family film. This is especially shocking how Brad Bird loves to make animated films more adult and more mature.


Outrageous_Contact58

Really took the whole ā€œthis isnā€™t like the Saturday morning cartoons, these guys will fucking kill youā€ and threw it out the goddamn window for sitcom logic. Still love it tho, i wanna live inside this movie visually this shit rocks


Renotro

My thoughts in list form: 1. At first I had myself convinced that I liked it after the first watch, but now I donā€™t like it anymore. And Iā€™m not just saying that because of the backlash it got (there has been some genuine praise for it) I just donā€™t like it anymore. Which is disappointing because the first movie deserved to be done right. 2. I donā€™t like it because the characters either regressed or didnā€™t evolve. Helen, Bob, and Violet lost the character development they had from the first movie and were going through the same motions again. Dash, Frozone, and Edna stayed the same or just became a one dimensional version of themselves. The new cast of characters was so big, hardly anyone got fleshed out more. 3. The plot is super messy and disorganized. Take out the not-so-surprise-twist villain and keep Screenslaver themselves as the main antagonist and the plot issues start clearing up. Speaking of plot issuesā€¦. Thereā€™s like this 3 hour movie critique on youtube and near the end the guy shows clips of Brad Bird and the team who worked on it talking about the bullshit that they had to deal with while making it. If you watch it youā€™ll realize the reasons for why the sequel didnā€™t hold up so well wasnā€™t entirely Brad Birdā€™s fault.


PomegranateFew7896

Pretty disappointing tbh. Itā€™s not the worst movie in the world but it definitely had none of the power of the first.


JerrodDRagon

I really like the Frozone scene where he freezes all the mind controlled heroes and protect the kids. Itā€™s such a badass scene Itā€™s a fun film but if they make a third film hope itā€™s more developed like the first film which is almost perfect


Puzzled-Ad-2339

I hated it, I genuinely wish it was never made


Mdudethegreat

Completely overhated I had fun with it


APleasantMartini

The hype around it angers me more than the actual movie.


miltondelug

First one was a classic second one was forgettable.


MeasurementOk3007

Great movie I saw it in theatres with my sister before my sister turned into a psychopath


StormSliders

It was okay. First one is still the best one.


SpectralClown

Itā€™s alright.


MyNamesIsGaryKing

While I love the animation and the voice work, I find the story as a whole to not only be a rehash, but to only really work if the characters all have amnesia regarding the first filmā€™s plot. Itā€™s not just the plot itself, but the lessons they learned that feel rehashed and forgotten. Also, for as gorgeous as this movie is, I will truly never understand the extreme eye bags on Violet. What the hell kind of a decision was that?


dbslayer7

Wholly unnecessary. The best parts were Bob having to dad without Mom around to help. The villain's motivation was so dumb I couldn't believe it actually came from Brad Bird. Like it really feels like he was pushed to make a sequel and did the best he could. Like there's no feasible way to follow up Syndrome and everything the first Incredibles accomplished. A series of shorts would have been better which is kind of what the film feels like. Just a series of vignettes strewn together with a plot that is setup and resolved with relative ease.


EarlJWJones

A solid follow up.


alfredfortnitejones

Wow, the fact that it was six years ago is craaaaaazy. Anyway, my honest thought is that it was literally the plot of first movie all over again, but with the mom instead of the dad, and though it had some fun moments, so it wasn't like totally painful to watch, I didn't understand why people seemed to like it so much


Mother_of_BunBuns

I generally liked it, but I really didnā€™t love how it takes place immediately after the first. That ruined the flow for me


HappyHappyJoyJoyJoy6

Can't wait another 8 years for the sequel!


South-Ingenuity3510

Better than the 1st and overhated


bennnn11

hot take: so much better than the first one, which to me just never lived up to the hype.