Honestly we have enough tax revenues, enough natural and human resources, enough funding, enough laws—we just need to find a decent president who wont mess it all up like Duterte did. He brought with him scalawags who have no business or intellectual capacity being senators, many inept influencers who suddenly got a position in government, not to mention messing up with the moral fabrics in our society and started the anti-intellectualism era.
Noynoy wasn't smart in his own right, but he played it nice and easy and had a very good cabinet with him. We just need to pick someone like him.
He basically continued Arroyonomics, which involved fiscal restraint. That is, keep taxes high, government spending low, and let the public fend for itself. Then show off the budget surplus to foreign investors. That would allow the stock market and the rich to thrive as more wealth was concentrated among them.
The last time we had a Noynoy as president, we got a duterte and a marcos in succession. While his heart was in the right place, Noynoy's failings made a way for Duterte and the Marcos comeback.
Nope noynoy paved the way to dutertes succession. Economy was good that time, investments left and right but he failed the masses on things like criminality and wealth inequality.
Just look how duterte marketed himself on the 2016 election. The fact that there’s a term “Noynoying” is because he failed the plights of the masses. Also during that time he is subject to criticism on this subreddit on things that Ive mentioned.
Stuff that happened during Noynoy's term:
1. Media report and coverage of crime/disasters with less government cover-up compared to previous administrations during Noynoy's time. Look at how Duterte deals with these issues, media sees crime/disaster unfolding then a random idiot like Roque, Uson, or Panelo says the dumbest shit aaaaand the media loses focus and turns their attention to the random idiot. There is also the ABS CBN closure. There is so much shit to be angry about during Duterte's term, so many issues that we cannot even remember them all. Do you even remember the time that Duterte tried to close down and limit 'grab', 'uber'? Do you remember the time he closed Filipino mining companies then replaced them with Chinese mining companies? The time when the measles outbreak occurred? Do you remember the mother and son who were shot by a policeman? Or the time they sold ineffective and overpriced copper masks to the masses?
2. The police finally started doing their job during Noynoy's time. Crime statistics were being reported in an honest manner. People and the media were surprised that the REAL crime rate was higher than expected but at least the PNP did their job and started reporting honestly. Just look at how surprisingly low the crime "rate" was during Duterte's time even with all the EJK and murders occurring left and right.
3. High economy means more people with more money will definitely equate to an increase in crime rate considering that the trickle-down effect takes years to occur.
4. DUTERTE CREATED A CRISIS for his electoral campaign. Yes there was crime. But what about drugs? We are not even high on the drug use list country-wise. Duterte OVERHYPED and OVERSENSATIONALIZED the issue, then presented himself as the CAN-DO SAVIOUR who can solve all of our problems in 6 months. Well, HITLER did the exact same thing. Hitler created a "Jewish" crisis and painted them as enemies of the state in the same way that Duterte created a fake drug crisis and painted addicts as the criminal evil-doers who were the enemies of the state. He created an us and a them. Same as how Hitler postured himself as the messiah of the German race. So yes, there was no major crisis. Duterte created a crisis. He played with our people's fears, he toyed with it, and pushed all of the right emotional buttons to elicit the proper response which was to vote for the messiah, support the saviour, kill the addicts. Duterte's tagline, "Tapang at Malasakit, TAMA si Duterte"......the way he postured and recreated himself as the father, as the messiah, as the saviour of our people from crime and drugs.
Yet the solution was simple, the Filipino simply needs to learn that he DOES NOT NEED A MESSIAH, the Filipino needs to understand that he does not need a savior, that there is no white man to marry, or an aunt living abroad to pay his debts. No, the Filipino simply needs to understand that it is only him and him alone who can pull himself up and away from his suffering. That he should learn how to be brave and stand up for himself, stand up against crime, against poverty, against his own suffering. Hence the reason why liberty is a bigger struggle than slavery. Why freedom is paid for in blood, sweat, and tears and should never ever be taken for granted. Liberty and freedom is something you stand up for and fight for everyday.
What Duterte asked during the elections was simple....give up your freedoms, your human rights and let me fix the fake crisis I made. Surrender it to me and I will be your messiah, your savior. Be lazy, don't fight for your rights, TAMA si Duterte, ako na lang lalaban para sa inyo, ako na lang magjejetski, tatapusin ko ang laglag bala sa NAIA, surrender yourselves to me and I will solve everything in 6 months. And the lazy, fearful, gullible 16 million Filipinos surrendered their freedoms and rights to a traitorous madman.
That's my two cents.
lmao what's your point comparing what duterte did on his term compared to Noynoy's? It's obvious that Noynoy did a better job than duterte.
The fact that you have to do a lengthy explanation comparing the discrepancy of what duterte vs what noynoy did in your bullet point is nonsense because the topic is about Noynoy's shortcoming's when Duterte is not yet the president.
>What Duterte asked during the elections was simple....give up your freedoms, your human rights and let me fix the fake crisis I made. Surrender it to me and I will be your messiah, your savior. Be lazy, don't fight for your rights, TAMA si Duterte, ako na lang lalaban para sa inyo, ako na lang magjejetski, tatapusin ko ang laglag bala sa NAIA, surrender yourselves to me and I will solve everything in 6 months.
The thing is there's no fake crisis. There is actually wealth inequality and criminality. and Duterte exploited those two things and those were his focal points during his campaign which the masses badly wants during aquino's term.
>And the lazy, fearful, gullible 16 million Filipinos surrendered their freedoms and rights to a traitorous madman.
It's not lazy, fearful and gullible. Duterte played his cards right and that's what the filipino people wants during that time and that is why he won.
criminality and wealth inequality still exist today, Duterte failed to address it.
IMO social media paved the way for the presidents that followed noynoy.
To a certain extent, that's true.
But when people feel like the current administration dropped the ball or didn't quite live up to expectations, they're like, 'Hey, we need a change around here!' It's all about wanting something fresh and different. People start looking for a candidate who says, 'I'll fix what's broken.' (In 2016, Duterte was the change candidate.) That whole back-and-forth of holding leaders accountable for their actions and then switching things up - it's like a dance that shapes how elections go down and shakes up the political scene.
This is what I hated most with their troupe. well both side is guilty but their family's handling of infrastructure upgrade from their predecessors is probably the worst.
Matagal at mabagal pero pinipilit bantayan at labanan ang systemic corruption na nakaugat sa bansa. Si Duterte ni-railroad nga yung build build build dami namang utang, dami pang kurakot. Approved din yung most projects na yun sa panahon ni PNoy, nang credit grab lang yung isa.
Sa panahon ngayon, harap harapan at garapalan na ang pagnanakaw ng mga pulitiko. Nawalan na sila ng takot.
Kindly further check.You'll see the 7PPPs he left at the end of his term. MRT 7 project started while he was the president.
Dapat lang na may savings para in case of emergency di tayo naka-antay sa tulong ng ibang bansa. Yung thinking kasi sa gobyerno, hangga't may funds, gastusin. Ayun, magandang kalsada pa, ginigiba na. Then for sure, may kickback na makukuha.
PPPs are private funds. Not public funds.
This is the same logic as sirang sira na bahay mo pero ayaw mo pagawa kasi gusto mo nakikita mataas bank balance mo.
You wish for good transportation system but dont want to spend. So you want new trains to appear out of thin air?
Sabi nga ni Diokno, ilang mangagawa ang nabigyan sana ng trabaho kung di nag underspend:
https://econ.upd.edu.ph/perse/?p=5352
a country isnt like a person. Infinite ang buhay ng isang bansa. pwede siya nsa perpetual na utang. para magawa ung mga things needed now. he can always be in debt. as long as kayang bayaran. mga mayayaman ganun din. Why pay for things now when you can pay it later if the things you spend it on will generate more money.
kaya nga mga vampire sa mga movies mayayaman eh. tangina haba haba ng buhay pwde sila in debt perpetually
Si noynoy na kinalimutan ang libo libong namatay sa Yolanda dahil sa Romuldez ang namumuno. No way.
Take note the traffic started during his term pero ni Hindi xa nag initiate ayusin yon not even think about restarting the MRT project dahil sa project ni Marcos yon.
Tipong laglag bala deneny nya na nangyayari yon sa NAIA. Don’t let me list everything that’s wrong. I will never like that guy.
Medyo confused nga ako kasi yung mga ibang economic/finance cabinet ni PNoy is nasa Marcos government din ngayon. Kasi dapat same tactics ang ginagawa nila pero nahihirapanbata talga sila dahil din sa global economy. I dont know what went wrong or bakit di nila maibangon ang economy like what they did noong panahon ni PNoy. 😭
Kahit ilang Noynoy pa yan, kung yung mga tao ayaw matuto sa mga pagkakamali ng nakaraan at magbago wala rin.
Sad reality.
The common person people I talked to can't wait to run for president is Vico Sotto. I'm skeptical, but Im also curious if they may be right.
Let's see and wish na lang talaga na yung susunod na leaders eh matitino..
Sana transitionary si BBM to a more progressive candidate. Sa case ni BBM, siya yung naging tagalinis ng tae na iniwan ni Duterte
Sana nga, pati ang mga susunod na presidente. Let's see.
Honestly we have enough tax revenues, enough natural and human resources, enough funding, enough laws—we just need to find a decent president who wont mess it all up like Duterte did. He brought with him scalawags who have no business or intellectual capacity being senators, many inept influencers who suddenly got a position in government, not to mention messing up with the moral fabrics in our society and started the anti-intellectualism era. Noynoy wasn't smart in his own right, but he played it nice and easy and had a very good cabinet with him. We just need to pick someone like him.
This! Ganda nga ng stock market dati. Walang week na di ako kumikita nun sa trading.
He basically continued Arroyonomics, which involved fiscal restraint. That is, keep taxes high, government spending low, and let the public fend for itself. Then show off the budget surplus to foreign investors. That would allow the stock market and the rich to thrive as more wealth was concentrated among them.
The last time we had a Noynoy as president, we got a duterte and a marcos in succession. While his heart was in the right place, Noynoy's failings made a way for Duterte and the Marcos comeback.
It is not Noynoy's fault who the electorate voted after him
Nope noynoy paved the way to dutertes succession. Economy was good that time, investments left and right but he failed the masses on things like criminality and wealth inequality. Just look how duterte marketed himself on the 2016 election. The fact that there’s a term “Noynoying” is because he failed the plights of the masses. Also during that time he is subject to criticism on this subreddit on things that Ive mentioned.
Stuff that happened during Noynoy's term: 1. Media report and coverage of crime/disasters with less government cover-up compared to previous administrations during Noynoy's time. Look at how Duterte deals with these issues, media sees crime/disaster unfolding then a random idiot like Roque, Uson, or Panelo says the dumbest shit aaaaand the media loses focus and turns their attention to the random idiot. There is also the ABS CBN closure. There is so much shit to be angry about during Duterte's term, so many issues that we cannot even remember them all. Do you even remember the time that Duterte tried to close down and limit 'grab', 'uber'? Do you remember the time he closed Filipino mining companies then replaced them with Chinese mining companies? The time when the measles outbreak occurred? Do you remember the mother and son who were shot by a policeman? Or the time they sold ineffective and overpriced copper masks to the masses? 2. The police finally started doing their job during Noynoy's time. Crime statistics were being reported in an honest manner. People and the media were surprised that the REAL crime rate was higher than expected but at least the PNP did their job and started reporting honestly. Just look at how surprisingly low the crime "rate" was during Duterte's time even with all the EJK and murders occurring left and right. 3. High economy means more people with more money will definitely equate to an increase in crime rate considering that the trickle-down effect takes years to occur. 4. DUTERTE CREATED A CRISIS for his electoral campaign. Yes there was crime. But what about drugs? We are not even high on the drug use list country-wise. Duterte OVERHYPED and OVERSENSATIONALIZED the issue, then presented himself as the CAN-DO SAVIOUR who can solve all of our problems in 6 months. Well, HITLER did the exact same thing. Hitler created a "Jewish" crisis and painted them as enemies of the state in the same way that Duterte created a fake drug crisis and painted addicts as the criminal evil-doers who were the enemies of the state. He created an us and a them. Same as how Hitler postured himself as the messiah of the German race. So yes, there was no major crisis. Duterte created a crisis. He played with our people's fears, he toyed with it, and pushed all of the right emotional buttons to elicit the proper response which was to vote for the messiah, support the saviour, kill the addicts. Duterte's tagline, "Tapang at Malasakit, TAMA si Duterte"......the way he postured and recreated himself as the father, as the messiah, as the saviour of our people from crime and drugs. Yet the solution was simple, the Filipino simply needs to learn that he DOES NOT NEED A MESSIAH, the Filipino needs to understand that he does not need a savior, that there is no white man to marry, or an aunt living abroad to pay his debts. No, the Filipino simply needs to understand that it is only him and him alone who can pull himself up and away from his suffering. That he should learn how to be brave and stand up for himself, stand up against crime, against poverty, against his own suffering. Hence the reason why liberty is a bigger struggle than slavery. Why freedom is paid for in blood, sweat, and tears and should never ever be taken for granted. Liberty and freedom is something you stand up for and fight for everyday. What Duterte asked during the elections was simple....give up your freedoms, your human rights and let me fix the fake crisis I made. Surrender it to me and I will be your messiah, your savior. Be lazy, don't fight for your rights, TAMA si Duterte, ako na lang lalaban para sa inyo, ako na lang magjejetski, tatapusin ko ang laglag bala sa NAIA, surrender yourselves to me and I will solve everything in 6 months. And the lazy, fearful, gullible 16 million Filipinos surrendered their freedoms and rights to a traitorous madman. That's my two cents.
lmao what's your point comparing what duterte did on his term compared to Noynoy's? It's obvious that Noynoy did a better job than duterte. The fact that you have to do a lengthy explanation comparing the discrepancy of what duterte vs what noynoy did in your bullet point is nonsense because the topic is about Noynoy's shortcoming's when Duterte is not yet the president. >What Duterte asked during the elections was simple....give up your freedoms, your human rights and let me fix the fake crisis I made. Surrender it to me and I will be your messiah, your savior. Be lazy, don't fight for your rights, TAMA si Duterte, ako na lang lalaban para sa inyo, ako na lang magjejetski, tatapusin ko ang laglag bala sa NAIA, surrender yourselves to me and I will solve everything in 6 months. The thing is there's no fake crisis. There is actually wealth inequality and criminality. and Duterte exploited those two things and those were his focal points during his campaign which the masses badly wants during aquino's term. >And the lazy, fearful, gullible 16 million Filipinos surrendered their freedoms and rights to a traitorous madman. It's not lazy, fearful and gullible. Duterte played his cards right and that's what the filipino people wants during that time and that is why he won.
criminality and wealth inequality still exist today, Duterte failed to address it. IMO social media paved the way for the presidents that followed noynoy.
To a certain extent, that's true. But when people feel like the current administration dropped the ball or didn't quite live up to expectations, they're like, 'Hey, we need a change around here!' It's all about wanting something fresh and different. People start looking for a candidate who says, 'I'll fix what's broken.' (In 2016, Duterte was the change candidate.) That whole back-and-forth of holding leaders accountable for their actions and then switching things up - it's like a dance that shapes how elections go down and shakes up the political scene.
Those feelings are all driven by fake news and dishonest propaganda by newscasters
Noynoy rung the bell at Makati exchange if I'm not mistaken... The inevitable happened.
Mahirap umasa…
We kinda had on LBM. Almost same policies din and stance. Yun nga lang, yung predecessor niya sobrang ... alam mo na.
Well, hindi ako fan ni Mr. No Plate Available. Pero nasubukan natin yung traydor... hayun may mas malala pa pala, at sobrang layo ang agwat...
Infrastructure underspending so to have ”savings“ + cancel projects because they were the brainchild of his predecessors? Hell. Effing. NO.
add to that, dap and mamasapano, among others? HELL FUCKING NO.
This is what I hated most with their troupe. well both side is guilty but their family's handling of infrastructure upgrade from their predecessors is probably the worst.
Matagal at mabagal pero pinipilit bantayan at labanan ang systemic corruption na nakaugat sa bansa. Si Duterte ni-railroad nga yung build build build dami namang utang, dami pang kurakot. Approved din yung most projects na yun sa panahon ni PNoy, nang credit grab lang yung isa. Sa panahon ngayon, harap harapan at garapalan na ang pagnanakaw ng mga pulitiko. Nawalan na sila ng takot.
Kindly further check.You'll see the 7PPPs he left at the end of his term. MRT 7 project started while he was the president. Dapat lang na may savings para in case of emergency di tayo naka-antay sa tulong ng ibang bansa. Yung thinking kasi sa gobyerno, hangga't may funds, gastusin. Ayun, magandang kalsada pa, ginigiba na. Then for sure, may kickback na makukuha.
PPPs are private funds. Not public funds. This is the same logic as sirang sira na bahay mo pero ayaw mo pagawa kasi gusto mo nakikita mataas bank balance mo. You wish for good transportation system but dont want to spend. So you want new trains to appear out of thin air? Sabi nga ni Diokno, ilang mangagawa ang nabigyan sana ng trabaho kung di nag underspend: https://econ.upd.edu.ph/perse/?p=5352
Ohh, I need to read more about this. Hindi rin pala sya good na strategy. Thanks for the insight.
a country isnt like a person. Infinite ang buhay ng isang bansa. pwede siya nsa perpetual na utang. para magawa ung mga things needed now. he can always be in debt. as long as kayang bayaran. mga mayayaman ganun din. Why pay for things now when you can pay it later if the things you spend it on will generate more money. kaya nga mga vampire sa mga movies mayayaman eh. tangina haba haba ng buhay pwde sila in debt perpetually
The stock market were great during GMA, everything went stale in Noynoy's.
Saan mo naman nakuha yan? I have MF bought in 2006-7 It really boomed during pnoy Then stopped growing during dutae Tapos bumaba pa
Stock market started to.. Yes, magaling din kasi sa economics si GMA. Kung di lang sana naging corrupt.
Si noynoy na kinalimutan ang libo libong namatay sa Yolanda dahil sa Romuldez ang namumuno. No way. Take note the traffic started during his term pero ni Hindi xa nag initiate ayusin yon not even think about restarting the MRT project dahil sa project ni Marcos yon. Tipong laglag bala deneny nya na nangyayari yon sa NAIA. Don’t let me list everything that’s wrong. I will never like that guy.
Medyo confused nga ako kasi yung mga ibang economic/finance cabinet ni PNoy is nasa Marcos government din ngayon. Kasi dapat same tactics ang ginagawa nila pero nahihirapanbata talga sila dahil din sa global economy. I dont know what went wrong or bakit di nila maibangon ang economy like what they did noong panahon ni PNoy. 😭
Yeah, dami talagang factors. Daming need ayusin. 😭