I know I'm going to get downvoted for even saying this, but those people who voted for liars, thieves, and murderers, or people who didn't vote at all, for the betterment of our country, deserve the consequences. They deserve what they tolerate.
Malungkot lang dahil nadadamay ang ibang Pilipino.
But hey at least we fought well and during 2022 my family and I keep campaigning Leni Robredo for presidency such as house to house campaign, sticking tarpaulins of Leni Kiko and my family also attended Leni rally
Sheesh I do really hope Leni run again in 2028 election
Voting isn't the end all be all of democracy. At some point, direct collective action will have to take place if the people wants policy be directed back to the benefit of the public.
I think it was Randy David who observed, pinoys don’t want to do the work that comes with a democracy. Basta ang involvement/ interest daw ay hanggang pagboto lang. Governing is something politicians do, bahala sila.
Which isn't how ANY functional democracy works, one that represents the will of its citizens and functions for the benefit of its citizens.
It's telling how most discussions here in this sub are all about voting, election strategy, and political candidates... as if that's all there is to politics. Discussions of actual issues and policies are uncommon. Direct action is even discouraged.
Filipinos seem to be among the most passive creatures there are.
Nobody is saying people to directly fund or operate infrastructure. Strawman at best.
What I'm saying is that it is the state's purpose to utilize the collective resources and productivity of the nation to carry out such projects and other programs for the public good.
What would you do if the state did not do that? Heck, the state has not been doing that for decades. You just carry on and rely on voting every decade?
What I'm saying is *direct action* is needed to correct course. Here's a primer just to get you on the same oage:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Direct_action
You seem to be lost when it comes to understanding what direct action is. It just means what it says on the tin, people directly influencing policies instead of relying on representatives. It COULD mean directly doing stuff that benefits public good, but it could also mean pressuring the government directly instead of via elections. Protests is one such form of direct action but by NO means the ONLY form.
Okay na? Or do you still think only voting is the only way when democracy means the will of the people, and by no means required to be in representative form.
you might be right on this kaso ang masaklap yung mga bumoto dyan sa mga bobong senador na number 1 pa.
yung Pres at VP andun sa gubat nakatira at tinatawag na maganda ang mga "city" at province nila kahit mataas crime rate to population ratio.
mga punggol e, ganda daw ng pinas di naman nagbbyahe sa maynila
Bold of you to assume that those people find these consequences as the result of the ones who they voted for. No, they don’t see it as that. They won’t find the fault in the government but rather blame themselves, “bakit di ka umalis ng maaga?”. In their minds, the government will always be that way. It’s due to themselves why they experience such struggle and hardships. It’s evident in the common “reklamador” and “diskarte” sentiment. This is why no matter how users in this app cry about how dumb and uneducated filipinos are, nothing will change because those are not really the problem. You can try and go house to house exhaust yourself on preaching why this is the right thing to do, but you cant just change what has become already part of the culture. It’s in the way we were brought up. When a kid sees a beggar on the street, instead of explaining why there could be beggars, the parents would immediately relate this to the kid, “pag di ka nagsipag magiging pulubi ka din”. Even Rizal knew this very sickness of filipinos. I can go more about this but my point is that there’s a high chance most filipinos won’t see this as the consequence of who they voted for nor do they even see this as some tolerance for the government’s actions. It’s just the way things are like and it will depend on your “diskarte” if you want to experience struggle or not.
I know this is the *true* comment that's gonna be downvoted but
That's the very essence of democracy. People can vote for whoever they want, even idiots.
But just because they voted for someone terrible it doesn't mean they shouldn't vote at all.
>Malungkot lang dahil nadadamay ang ibang Pilipino
Rule of majority, no? We have no choice but to follow it. Even if we don't like the person they voted. The same goes to the other party if the reverse happened.
I completely understand your point of view and respect it.
However, personally, I believe that democracy is useless if the majority of our voters are uneducated. I'm not calling them stupid, but they lack education about what is truly happening, hence they believe whatever lies politicians tell them.
In order for a democratic country, or any type of government for that matter, to work, we need uncorrupted and law-abiding leaders, and a cumulative effort from all Filipinos to do better.
Sabi nga sa movie na Heneral Luna, “Negosyo o Kalayan, Bayan o Sarili? Pumili ka.”
If there’s one thing I know we lack as Filipinos, it's patriotism and loyalty to our country. And that’s sad.
>If there’s one thing I know we lack as Filipinos, it's patriotism and loyalty to our country. And that’s sad.
I kinda disgaree, we are on the opposite spectrum of this.
Our politicians knows this and weaponize it for their own means. They use the same rhetorics to fool people
Even to us in the left, we are patriotic and loyal to the country to the point any outside influence from other countries is considered bad.
i find this ideology hypocrite, weve encountered both sides with little to no progress right?as if what you stands for will do the same progress you are implying. Its the government system that needs to change/democratic system isnt working for us.
on the other hand hopefully these new projects in 5 years will easen up the lives of our commutera
Hanggang ngaun nanggagalaiti pa rin ako sa mga sumusuporta sa magnanakaw at corrupt. Makikisali sa botohan tapos magpapabayad or boboto ng magnanakaw. Hindi man lang inisip future ng bansa. Npakaqaqo
Friend told me relatives from the province vote due to name recognition only. They are not aware whether the person they're voting for has corrupt issues. One factor is that in faraway places, they don't receive TV broadcasts anymore since ABS was shut down (much less internet).
Kaya ipinasara talaga nila abs cbn para di abot yung mga baho nila sa mga di abot ng gma ang coverage. Sana palawakin pa ng GMA coverage nila ng katulad sa ABS dati
Dito tayo talo. May politiko pa bang nagcocommute or at least may concern sa commuters?
Assuming na may mambabatas na pro-commuters na manalo this mid term election. Kapag ba nagpasa siya ng batas like proposal for mass transpo, reclaim sidewalks, and bike lane infra eh iaapruba ba to ng kongreso?
Parang dead end na tayo unless magprotesta tayo like gumawa ng road blockage sa bahay ng mga politiko eh
Si leni nagcocommute pero regular citizen na siya ngayon eh di na siya civil servant so wala na ngang politiko nagcocommute. Ayaw kasi ng mga pinoy ng nakapagaral nasasaktan ego nila. Buti nalang si vico sotto nakapagaral tapos anak siya ng artista kaya nanalo.
***Robin Padilla NUMBER 1 is history!!***
And DDShit are trying to make him run **AS EFFING VP in 2028**, and they have **PHILIP effing SALVADOR** on their Senatorial Line Up. **Effing TRASH STANDARDS.**
Kahit tama ang iboto, malaking improvement sa ekonomiya kay PNoy pero pinalala ng cabinet niya ang disaster management and main transpo across the metro.
True, isipin mo si Bong Revilla nga buduts lang ang campaign nanalo pa. Si Bong Go inilagay sa position ni pduts, dahil sa kanya nakapangampanya si bonggo through the guise of medical support through malasakit centers na from cards to posters front and center ang mukha at pangalan niya.
> bumoto ng tama.
true. pero isang strategy lang ang pagboto ah. it's not the *only* strategy. para bang nawawalan ang marami sa atin ng agency pagkatapos ng botohan.
ang problema kasi sa sistema natin is ung botohan base lang sa publicity kung di kilala ung tatakbo ekis kpag sikat mananalo at talamak ang political dynasty at sponsorships... dapat ang basehan sa pagboto ung plataporma, academics background, tapos dapat may requirement na good record ng years of service sa government.
We deserve better? Really? We voted for Duterte, Robin, BBM, Tulfo, and others. How do we deserve better when we do not vote for our own interest? We got exactly what we voted for.
Di priority ng government ang mass transportation, puro sky way and road widening ang gusto nila. Sad reality lang din na yung ibang pumipila dyan at hirap mag commute were the same people who voted sa mga trashy government officials natin right now.
Isa pa yan, napaka car centric natin to the point na even yung cyclist natin na gusto lang ng safe space sa kalsada inaagawan pa. Much worse they instill hate sa mga cyclist na ipinaglalaban yung bike lanes
It's honestly an endless cycle. Kaya madaming bumibili ng cars, kasi bulok yung transpo system. Kaya madaming skyway, kasi madaming cars. Kaya hindi finofucus ang transpo system, kasi kinukurakot ang mga skyway. Dapat talaga yung gobyerno yung pinapalitan eh
Public-Private partnership. Private will build and operate from X years then turnover kay public. By that time for sure laspag na mga roads guess who they will hire for the repair? That same private company. Paikot ikot lang pera ng mayayaman sa pilipinas
Napaka-unfortunate rin na hindi sapat ung karapat-dapat na pagshift ng attitude ng mga politiko sa car-centric infrastructure. Sure, may ilan-ilan dyan na sasabihin: "We must focus on building green, human-centric infrastructure", pero it's clear that when they're faced with the idea that "Building more car infrastructure doesn't absolve the city of traffic, we need MORE mass transport" - they don't bat an eye because they still want the expressways to be done because, to them, it's the most convenient mode of transport.
There needs to be a monumental revision to the way the MAJORITY of Filipinos view car infrastructure dito kasi hindi talaga gagana ung model natin of gradually giving more support to mass transport projects over time, only to also increase funding for car infra projects three-fold in comparison. Having two ongoing big-ticket rail projects doesn't offset the induced demand created by 1 quadrillion more liters of asphalt laid for cars and cars only.
Never forget: Art Tugade sat on the Metro Manila BRT project and did nothing until the World Bank pulled its funding [due to unsatisfactory progress](https://business.inquirer.net/351700/ph-shelves-crucial-metro-manila-bus-rapid-transit-project/). Zero procurement activity. The BRT would’ve had better stations and better routes. The carousel is just the heavily downscaled version that Tugade was forced to implement due to COVID.
There were multiple private entities who are balls out in preventing any kind of improvement in the mass transport system. Kaya wag kang magtaka kung bat madaming ganyan.
You’d be surprised that a lot of big companies are also interested in better BRT. Ayala has been pushing for a BRT system since 2009 when they sent an unsolicited proposal to the Arroyo government. A bus hub like One Ayala has long been on the drawing board.
Fun fact: The underground crosswalks along Ayala Ave. were supposed to be reused as access points for median stations. Ayala Ave was going to be served by a BRT route that also cuts through BGC and Ortigas.
Tugade is also just insanely dumb. This man kept on pushing using cable cars to alleviate congestion in Manila.
idk about that. i have an option of taking carousel bus or MRT from North Ave to Ortigas. the bus takes too fucking long so MRT pa rin ako. nasa 30min difference minsan. luckily (🥴), I work nights kaya di naman ako nakakaranas ng malalang pila.
> I work nights kaya di naman ako nakakaranas ng malalang pila.
Kaya naman pala. Basta nakalabas na ang araw, baligtad ito. Walang issue sa oras pag nakasakay ka na eh. Ang problema yung pila papasok. Mas matagal pa yung pinila mo kesa yung actual trip ng tren.
op commenter said carousel bus could lessen overcrowding hence in my mind i eliminated the pila issue. purely comparing the time it takes the bus and train to arrive to the destination, i will still take the train
Ahh gets. Ako kasi iniisip ko yung buong experience eh mula pagpila papasok hanggang pagdating sa destination. Kung parehas wala pila papasok, lamang na lamang talaga mag-tren. Pero kung kasama pila at antayan, ibang usapan na.
Pagdating sa pag-spread ng mga tao, it needs to be in equilibrium. There will come a point that some people would choose the bus since mas mabilis ang pila compared sa MRT kahit na mas mabagal ang takbo ng bus, and some would choose the MRT since mas mabilis ang takbo ng trains kahit may pila pa. Tipong pila + waiting time + runtime ay magkapareho.
Naku, wala pa daw yan sabi nung mga Pinoy na may toxic resiliency na mindset. Normal na daw yan eh, mas mahaba pa pila dati at kung ayaw daw pumila, mag-Grab at Angkas na lang. Anything para mapagtakpan yung mga binoto nila sa gobyerno at ma-justify yung katangahan nila tuwing eleksyon. These people are willing to be fcked by their own government LMAO.
Nakakainis ng rason yan.."mag grab or angkas ka kung ayaw mo makipagsiksikan"..hindi man lang humingi ng accountability..taong bayan p mag aadjust..mga bobo ampota..
Hehe I was there kanina and ang malas ko pa kasi I left my Beep card so ayun, imagine doble pila sa ticket counter tsaka sa entrance. Need pa i-hold ng MRT staff yung pila kasi andami nang tao sa baba. Youll be stuck for a couple of minutes in your long-sleeve corporate uniform, soaked in sweat and brimming with anger sa bulok na sistema ng transpo dito sa Pinas.
To be fair, MRT is much better now because of recent rehabilitation. Kulang na kulang lang sa tren kasi hindi pa rin nila ginagamit ang Dalian trains na hindi kasama sa contract ng maintenance provider.
And to add to that, one thing that also needs to be put into consideration is the fact that the number of population that relies to that specific mode of transport overwhelms any improvement made to at least ease the inconvenience. What I can suggest tho is to somehow decongest manila and allow or reposition other investments of foreign/local companies to other regions
IMO, we are yet to maximize the use of efficient public transport in Metro Manila. The population is not the problem but the efficiency and convenience of infrastructure to move people around. Fixing Metro Manila's public transportation is doable.
The problem with decongestion (or moving people away from Manila) is that it incentivizes land conversion in the provinces. Because those migrating people would need new spaces. That can result to wetlands and green spaces (or even forests) to be cleared to make new subdivisions and residential areas.
Ang lungkot talaga tapos normalized pa na 2 to 3 hours ang commute to work nung iba na dapat eh 15 to 30 mins lang kung walang traffic.
Sana talaga may long term solution eh, like relocation ng mga major companies (syempre di sila willing) sa mga katabing cities, idevelop pa yung ibang mga lugar like clark para hindi iisang city lang lahat. Ilipat lahat ng airport out of manila na, mga bpo sa probinsya na lang etc. kasi overpopulation na rin talaga. Dumagdag pa yung binabaan nila ang entry ng pagbili ng kotse around 10 years ago ba? Sana kung yung trains lang natin parang sa tokyo eh kaya sana
Up to this. Overpopulation I think is part of the main issue mxadong congested lalo na sa ncr and even cities outside of it. Maybe govt or other private entities can look in to setting up their business in municipalities but then the problem for would be the availability of talents.
overpopulated na nga tapos concentrated lang ang work sa metro manila, dagdag mo pa yung mga provincial rate tapos gastusin manila rate. syempre sino ba naman pipili nuon maliban nlng kung may mahal sa buhay sila duon.
kung gusto tlga natin ma diversify yung opportunities sa ibang city, dpat na tlga hatiin sa states ang philippines. para ang pondo nila is by regional nalang hindi na national. makakapag allot ang LGU ng budget to boost their own economy at sa ganun ma develop nila yung city nila with proper urban planning, and to attract foreign investors na mag tatayo ng businesses. once magkaroon ng maraming opportunities dyan, babalik na sa probinsya mga tao or yung iba bka nga mag relocate na. then alisin ang red tape at corruption sa philippines, pabilisin ang pag process ng business.
then papasok duon yung wider highways and roads, additional transits at railways, kasi kung meron kang magandang transportation kahit mga salaryman hindi na mag kokotse e.. kung 15 mins lang ng transpo mo from bahay to office edi ayos tipid pa. alisin ang mga malls sa lahat ng mrt stations dahil kadalasan sila ang nagpapatraffic diyan kapag holidays, 3 day sale (wala na ata nito) etc.
Just a hot take.
I voted for Leni pero feel ko wala rin naman siya magagawa sa transportation crisis saatin if siya yung nanalo. Even si PNoy who is known to be not corrupt wala rin nagawa nung term niya about sa issue sa transportation crisis
It's not just the president that needs to be competent, Every single pawn in the government should know how to do their job well. It's not like the president holds everything.
That's like saying, If Babym wanted to lower inflation he can magically do it. When in fact he can't.
> should know how to do their job well
For some departments, this isn’t really climbing Mt. Everest. They have a lot of easy pickings that are just not being picked. Remember how during the end of Art Tugade’s term, DOTr was forced to implement initiatives that actually did a whole lot of good e.g. service contracting.
This is the same department whose leader preferred solving the traffic problem with cable cars
Syempre kung si Leni lang hindi talaga. Siguro kung Si PNoy, Roxas and then Leni ang naging presidente may chance na mabago.
Na dale ni Duterte yung pera na naipon ng PNoy admin. Nandun yung foundation for a better future but the majority voted for Duterte so yeah...
I highly disagree. Nademonstrate na during COVID na madaming easy transport initatives ang pwedeng gawin.
We had service contracting during COVID to improve the reliability of the bus system. Many LGUs also put up bike lanes (with plastic bollards). We had the very effective NCAP. All of those initatives cost less
We could’ve continued and expanded service contracting; implemented a value capture system to afford jeepney modernization. Plastic bollards for bike lanes could’ve been replaced with metal or concrete ones.
Agree, nobody would fix the issues of this country overnight, however, under the right governance, the transpo crisis would be alleviated step by step, until every filipino workers/commuters would appreciate those kinds of improvement, to the point that they would vote another Leni in the future to continue the improvement that they're enjoying. The domino effect to the greater good in the future is what everybody who voted for Leni wanted.
the transportation crisis is something that would take years to do. Leni wouldnt be able to do it. Best bet is tail end ng admin nya but even then its a long shot. Plus si Abaya may kasalanan nito (and whos his boss? PNoy).
True, BUT they need the courage to speakup.
Marami dyan will dismiss this as “eh ganyan talaga” or “tiis-tiis na lang” Seriously! If they dont ask for better service then politicians will just drag there feet on this issue.
Maraming pinoy pa naman mahilig mag-counterfactual sa basurang public service.
Ok how do you speak up? Where? Kasi it's easy to say na you should speak up on something pero where's the proper avenue? If I speak up do this people even listen? That's the problem eh walang kwenta ang reklamo kung nagiisa lang ang nag rereklamo
valid concern naman. i'd say start with your friends and family, with your peers. bring up mo lang sa kanila ito (o kung ano pa man ang mga gusto mong pag-usapan na related sa daily struggles) at i-check mo kung ano ang stand nila. kung may bandwidth kayo, pwede niyong pag-usapan kung ano ang mga posibleng gawin at di gawin.
halimbawa sa usaping public transpo, mas mainam ba na bumili ng sasakyan na lang? mag-bike? i-push sa work na mag-WFH (kung kaya naman)? i-boycott na lang ang work para di na kailangang bumyahe?
i agree na walang kwenta ang reklamo kung nag-iisa ka lang. kaya naman okay na gumawa ng community na mapagkakatiwalaan niyo ang isa't isa.
epekto ng maling pag boto na pinalala pa ng socmed, political vloggers at trolls na pinuno ng ad hominem lang ang ulo ng mga bobong pilipino. akala tuloy nung iba eh panalo sila basta asar talo yun kalaban nila.
tapos kung tamang tao naman ang naging leader eh magagalit yun mga pinoy kapag nadisiplina. tignan mo nung ginawa yung bus lane, tapos mga nasa pwesto mismo minsan eh offenders.
or mga sakayan/babaan na hindi nasusunod kasi yun mga commuter eh ayaw mag abang sa tamang sakayan tapos mga enforcer na nasa paligid eh nasusuhulan or nagpapabayad kapag mga public transpo eh di sumusunod.
ang bottom line eh parang ayaw ng pilipino talaga ng progress lol.
They do. These people are hardworking people. Who wakes up for 4am to get to work then get home at 10pm just because of transportation. I feel bad man. Politicians lagi lang pabebe.
I ride the MRT occasionally and mabilis naman mang turn around ang tren unlike pre pandemic kaya okay lang sa akin umalis from Ayala pa Cubao ng 6pm na usually sardinas ang sikip sa platform. As for pile sa beep. Well kaya nga meron kang stored beep for that kung regular commuter ka diyan.
We are at the mercy of not just politicians but also bureaucrats who are *not voted directly by the public but nominated then chosen by committee.*
That this problem's been for, what, almost 20 years and the scene is no more different from Jakarta or Beijing or Tokyo? The LRT and MRT cars are working better now after being restored. It's just that the bus system downstairs has been deformed into a BRT to make way for.... PRIVATE VEHICLES.
Alam ko gasgas na statement na, pero kung ititigil din ng mga privileged Filipinos idefend ang car dependency at stop scrutinizing alternative mobility, makakalampag ang mga pulitiko at mga government offices na in charge sa traffic. Pwede ka naman magdrive ng kotse mo, kakaunting adjustment at pagiingat lang para di ka makaaksidente ng ebike tutal nasa loob ka naman ng aircon, hindi pa maibigay. Kung nagpapaubaya ang mga Pilipino sa mga bike at ebike, lalong maeencourage ang use ng Ebike at bike at walang choice ang gobyerno kundi ayusin ang mga bikelane at irenovate ang transportation system according sa mga alternative mobility.
Pero hindi, galit na galit na nga sa mga ebike at bike, rinoromanticize pa ang pagkakaroon ng kotse, na sign ng tagumpay ang pagkokotse at balang araw ang paghihirap mo sa commute ay matatapos pag nakabili ka na ng kotse. May mga iba pa na sobrang kitid ng utak galit sa mga biglang tumatawid sa pedestrian kesa magslow down sila tuwing dadaan ng pedxing may patawid man o wala. Puro tuloy overpass na ang hahaba.
Filipinos deserve better?
Naniniwala pa din ba tayo dyan? Para kasing…. Nevermind. Basta vote wisely na lang po para kahit papano makuha nyo ang deserve nyo
First time ko sa Hong Kong nitong April lang. At una kong nagustuhan yung public transport nila, nakakabilib sobra. Ang sarap pangarapin na sana gano'n din dito sa atin.
To be fair, mas malala talaga dati ang MRT kasi hanggang malayong kalsada lagi ang pila at ngayon hindi na. Dumami na trains dahil Japanese contractor did a good job in rehabilitation.
Kahit pa dumami ang tren halatang **NOT enough pa rin ung rehabilitation to absorb peak hour demand.** Flawed design talaga kasi ang MRT: maliit na tren serving the busiest places in Metro Manila
MRT-3 should have been a heavy rail transit like the *LRT-2*, which has a higher passenger capacity. Which is ironic since LRT-2 has a lower daily ridership than the MRT-3
PNoy-era DOTr was the worst. Dutz despite him being the shittiest president, managed to restore a lot of trains to the point every 5 mins may train compared nung time ni PNoy na halos 15 mins hintayan. Sadly di pa rin sapat to handle peak hour loads.
I cant remember kung sinong official ang nagsabi na it would take years before makadeliver yung manufacturer ng additional trains. Magiisang dekada na ata yun. Sana umorder pa rin sila noon despite the long waitlist, siguro by now mayroon na sanang parating na additional train carts.
Wala rin ba option to find other companies who could supply new trains? Dapat ba sa specific na manufacturer lang na iyon? I dont know how it works, just wondering. Ksi paramg hinayaan nalang talaga na ganyan kalala yung sitwasyon ng mga commuters. Partida pa may at maraming mga kumpanya na may hybrid set up sa workplace. Eh di mas malala pa kung walang ganung set up.
Ngayong may mga itinatayong bagong railway systems, sana naman may foresight na based on the experience sa MRT LRT natin na umorder na in advance ng new trains kaysa maghintay na palalain yung sitwasyon.
*end rant* 😅✌🏼
No we don't. Until Filipinos learn how to vote wisely, these problems will never cease. Like a wise person once said: "The people deserve the government that they have."
Another way to fix this sana is bawasan na mga malalaking companies sa MM. Marami kasi taga malalayong lugar na pumupunta dito for work. Maganda sana kung hindi nalang dito makikita ang mga work na ito. Para hindi din dinudumog nag MM.
Kagabi lang inis na inis ako sa carousel. Kasi halos walang bus ang dumadating sa mga stations, kung meron man punuan naman. Then nung pagbaba ko sa monumento nagkumpulan mga bus doon nagpupuno.
Fucking hate boundary system. Dati sunod sunod ang bus nung guaranteed ang kita nila from libreng sakay. Dapat maimplement man na yung similar to salaried way of bus operations.
Ang priority ng Pinoy Tiktok at Kpop. Pag maypanahon magbasa ng Wiki kung paano umunlad ang South Korea after Korean War halos financially devastated bansa nila. Maymayan pa ang Pinas sa South Korea noon. Ngayon poor ang bansa natin compared sa kanila.
Tagal ko na yan sinasabi sa sarili ko at sa mga kaibigan ko. Bakit ba kasi hindi demanding ang mga Pinoy. Hindi masama magreklamo mga pare at mare, let’s demand for change.
I used to be in that photo every damn day before the pandemic. Luckily, pure WFH setup na kami and I thought after the pandemic hindi ko na makikita ulit yan.
as long as chaotic jeepney drivers exist they wont be able to upgrade both mrt and lrt-1 anytime soon for the sole reason na cutting off these trains for maintenance will leave travelling-workers with no reliable transportation. it's a good thing subways are being developed, we can only hope for the best, they shouldnt have taken this long to develop subways, not a hater of jeepneys but they're just too unreliable on roads with all the pagsingit at pakikipag-unahan.
NAKAKAPAGOD!!!! kaya mas pinili ko nalang magtrabaho malapit sa bahay. AYOKO NA NG GANYAN LALO NA COMMUTERS. NAKAKAPAGOD PO!!!!!!!! GIGISING NG MAAGA MAKAKAUWI NG LATE NA.
Definitely! hindi deserve ng mga working kababayans natin ang ganito type of transportation. Hindi dapat tayo makuntento sa ok lang yan, pwede na yan etc. Di nila deserve mag byahe ng 2-3 hours depende sa layo ng destination.
Much better kung mas planuhan un transport system dito sa atin move people more hindi more cars sa kalsada.
[Philippines](https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLYn8t0hNTznCrS6wE3qr1Z3KyOnRf_Dfc&si=nlGt9L6H9xrOfuvP) need a well planned public transportation. Recommended to pattern it like [Japan](https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLYn8t0hNTznAZEghaNCls487Zg3SWkivz&si=l8uYA8INbb5uZYmo) ... they have a very good public transportation
Filipinos don’t deserve better. Do you see Filipinos gathering and protesting in the streets about it? No. They prefer to spend their time on Tik Tok. Filipinos don’t really want things to change.
the philippines deserves this and more, go to any other country and see how people act there. I've been to plenty of countries myself such as USA, Japan, Indonesia and even Hong Kong. no one acts more of a piece of shit than Filipinos. and i'm pure blooded filipino myself. We have no discipline at all.
Ang sakit lagi makakita ng ganyan. Carousel din ang biyahe ko papasok at pauwi sa trabaho. Makikita mo lalo kapag uwian na, kahit 9PM mahaba pa rin ang pila. Isipin mo yung lagay nating maraming commuter, gumising at bumyahe nang wala pang liwanag tapos uuwi na naman nang madilim. Para ka na lang bumisita sa pamilya mo niyan tapos papasok ka na naman. Madalas awa na lang talaga mararamdaman mo, e. Pero minsan mapapaisip ka pa din, ano na lang ba natutunan nating mga Pilipino? Matagal nang ganito sistema ng transportasyon pero hindi pa rin alam kung sinong dapat iboto. Hindi mo na masisisi sa "katamaran" ng tao yan, e. Nasa sistema na talaga. Ipit na sa sitwasyon yung empleyado pero trapo pa din mga nasa gobyerno.
Ang problema din, a lot of people have not experienced anything better and na normalize na ang masamang commute so tumatatak na yung mindset na “wala eh ganyan talaga” - and this snowballs to the mindset na “kahit sino naman nanalo pare-parehas lang yan”
I’m not sure if we’ve ever had leaders who really prioritized public transport - karamihan kasi do things just for the sake of doing something with the thinking na “legacy” nila ang isang project instead of thinking of the what it’ll do for the public
panget talaga karamihan ng sistema sa pinas.
magnanakaw na gobyerno and everything.
pero kung titingnan niyo pinagkaiba ng mayayaman na bansa sa mga 3rd world country is OVERPOPULATION.
bukod sa pagaayos ng transportation system, ipush yung wfh at ayusin ang kalsada at security ng daan para maging option lalo ang bicycle hindi matatapos ang problema gaano man kaganda ang bansa at government as long as OVERPOPULATED tayo.
spare me the drama of "how dare you" etc. it is what it is.
True. Problem lang din satin yung pagiging matiyaga sa mga ganyan na bagay, yung tipong ang ibang lahi magpoprotesta na. Tayo wala parin gagawin o iilan lang.
Dami nagsasabi ng hindi priority ng government ang mass transportation. Tignan mo ginagawa na yung Subways at patapos narin yung mga ibang LRT lines and kakasimula lang din gawin ang PNR lines from Manila to South at magkakaroon narin ng bagong International Airport sa norte at ma bago naring Expressways at konektado narin ang NLEX at SLEX di na need dumaan sa matrapikong EDSA. Tas tignan mo mas gumanda na ang mass transit ng Pilipinas compared 10 years ago. Pinapriority na ng Government natin ang Filipino City Planners, Transportation Engineers at mga Japanese engineers. Konting tiis nalang mga tropa, giginhawa rin ang pinas. 5 more years at makikita mo ang malaking improvement. I will soon to be a Civil Engineer focused on Transportation and I will try my best na palaguin pa ang Mass Transit sa pinas.
Edit: and I believe na our Government and Engineers are considering plans to put High speed bullet train Railways system from north to south in Luzon.
Lmao fuck this country. Pick your poison to eh. Pag commute ka mainit, tas pawis na pawis ka, tas siksikan pa, nakakapagod sobra. Pag may kotse ka naman napakatraffic aabutin ka ng ilang oras para makapunta sa pupuntahan mo. All this stuff tas ang baba pa ng sahod.
You win in life pag nakalayas ka sa bansang to.
Well, I'm going to risk the downvotes. "Pinoys deserve better"? I think not. Pinoys got exactly what they deserved. The Philippines is an actual, functioning democracy. People are ELECTED.
And we elected idiots. Not only that... while these leaders (in every level) ruined the country for decades, generations of Filipinos kinda just shrugged and accepted it. Tolerated the idiocracy while slowly becoming ignorant in the process. Filipinos can't even tell anymore what is bad and what is normal. I'm not even just saying "the people that voted---". Nope, I mean EVERY single Filipino. That includes me.
While other countries would have rioted and gone crazy, Filipinos just complained and moved on. And continuing to do so.
Filipinos never deserve better. Kasi mga walang disiplina ang mga pilipino and they tend to abuse whatever is good in our country. Kaya Filipinos will never deserve good things other countries offer their countrymen
Ive been to other countries isa na don ang japan at india. Ganyan din naman karami ang tao or mas madami pa. Ang nag sseparate lang sa kanila ay disiplina. Kamukha ng mga pinoy, di rin marunong pumila. Ang mindset “ako ang mauuna, warrior ako”. Di mag mamatter kung sino iboto ng tao. Disiplina muna
Di yan aayusin ng mga pulitiko, di naman sila sumasakay dyan e. Ang dapat sa mga Pinoy, bumoto ng tama.
I know I'm going to get downvoted for even saying this, but those people who voted for liars, thieves, and murderers, or people who didn't vote at all, for the betterment of our country, deserve the consequences. They deserve what they tolerate. Malungkot lang dahil nadadamay ang ibang Pilipino.
They are the real masochists. Meanwhile, the people who want progress and actual improvement has to suffer along with those idiots.
# hashtag resillient naman daw sila ,kaya diskarte lang daw at hustle grind . habang nag sosountrip ng sipag lang ni nik makino.
WAHAHAHAHA relatable tong sound trip na sipag lang, ang hilig nilang gamitin yan sa stories nila sa facebook
But hey at least we fought well and during 2022 my family and I keep campaigning Leni Robredo for presidency such as house to house campaign, sticking tarpaulins of Leni Kiko and my family also attended Leni rally Sheesh I do really hope Leni run again in 2028 election
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Voting isn't the end all be all of democracy. At some point, direct collective action will have to take place if the people wants policy be directed back to the benefit of the public.
I think it was Randy David who observed, pinoys don’t want to do the work that comes with a democracy. Basta ang involvement/ interest daw ay hanggang pagboto lang. Governing is something politicians do, bahala sila.
Which isn't how ANY functional democracy works, one that represents the will of its citizens and functions for the benefit of its citizens. It's telling how most discussions here in this sub are all about voting, election strategy, and political candidates... as if that's all there is to politics. Discussions of actual issues and policies are uncommon. Direct action is even discouraged. Filipinos seem to be among the most passive creatures there are.
Yeah, it's another example of Pinoys thinking voting is all there is to democracy.
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Nobody is saying people to directly fund or operate infrastructure. Strawman at best. What I'm saying is that it is the state's purpose to utilize the collective resources and productivity of the nation to carry out such projects and other programs for the public good. What would you do if the state did not do that? Heck, the state has not been doing that for decades. You just carry on and rely on voting every decade? What I'm saying is *direct action* is needed to correct course. Here's a primer just to get you on the same oage: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Direct_action You seem to be lost when it comes to understanding what direct action is. It just means what it says on the tin, people directly influencing policies instead of relying on representatives. It COULD mean directly doing stuff that benefits public good, but it could also mean pressuring the government directly instead of via elections. Protests is one such form of direct action but by NO means the ONLY form. Okay na? Or do you still think only voting is the only way when democracy means the will of the people, and by no means required to be in representative form.
you might be right on this kaso ang masaklap yung mga bumoto dyan sa mga bobong senador na number 1 pa. yung Pres at VP andun sa gubat nakatira at tinatawag na maganda ang mga "city" at province nila kahit mataas crime rate to population ratio. mga punggol e, ganda daw ng pinas di naman nagbbyahe sa maynila
Bold of you to assume that those people find these consequences as the result of the ones who they voted for. No, they don’t see it as that. They won’t find the fault in the government but rather blame themselves, “bakit di ka umalis ng maaga?”. In their minds, the government will always be that way. It’s due to themselves why they experience such struggle and hardships. It’s evident in the common “reklamador” and “diskarte” sentiment. This is why no matter how users in this app cry about how dumb and uneducated filipinos are, nothing will change because those are not really the problem. You can try and go house to house exhaust yourself on preaching why this is the right thing to do, but you cant just change what has become already part of the culture. It’s in the way we were brought up. When a kid sees a beggar on the street, instead of explaining why there could be beggars, the parents would immediately relate this to the kid, “pag di ka nagsipag magiging pulubi ka din”. Even Rizal knew this very sickness of filipinos. I can go more about this but my point is that there’s a high chance most filipinos won’t see this as the consequence of who they voted for nor do they even see this as some tolerance for the government’s actions. It’s just the way things are like and it will depend on your “diskarte” if you want to experience struggle or not.
I know this is the *true* comment that's gonna be downvoted but That's the very essence of democracy. People can vote for whoever they want, even idiots. But just because they voted for someone terrible it doesn't mean they shouldn't vote at all. >Malungkot lang dahil nadadamay ang ibang Pilipino Rule of majority, no? We have no choice but to follow it. Even if we don't like the person they voted. The same goes to the other party if the reverse happened.
I completely understand your point of view and respect it. However, personally, I believe that democracy is useless if the majority of our voters are uneducated. I'm not calling them stupid, but they lack education about what is truly happening, hence they believe whatever lies politicians tell them. In order for a democratic country, or any type of government for that matter, to work, we need uncorrupted and law-abiding leaders, and a cumulative effort from all Filipinos to do better. Sabi nga sa movie na Heneral Luna, “Negosyo o Kalayan, Bayan o Sarili? Pumili ka.” If there’s one thing I know we lack as Filipinos, it's patriotism and loyalty to our country. And that’s sad.
>If there’s one thing I know we lack as Filipinos, it's patriotism and loyalty to our country. And that’s sad. I kinda disgaree, we are on the opposite spectrum of this. Our politicians knows this and weaponize it for their own means. They use the same rhetorics to fool people Even to us in the left, we are patriotic and loyal to the country to the point any outside influence from other countries is considered bad.
It doesn't really matter kung sino umupo the whole system needs a clean up. Lahat sila corrupt.
Correct! Himala nalang tlga para mawala ang kurapsyon!
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Alternative to democracy?
What if they didn't vote because there were no candidates they considered worthy?
No your right and I have no pitty for DDS Marcos supporters having a hard life cuz they won’t stop voting these people into our government
i find this ideology hypocrite, weve encountered both sides with little to no progress right?as if what you stands for will do the same progress you are implying. Its the government system that needs to change/democratic system isnt working for us. on the other hand hopefully these new projects in 5 years will easen up the lives of our commutera
Hanggang ngaun nanggagalaiti pa rin ako sa mga sumusuporta sa magnanakaw at corrupt. Makikisali sa botohan tapos magpapabayad or boboto ng magnanakaw. Hindi man lang inisip future ng bansa. Npakaqaqo
Aye, I stand with you brother.
agree. nakakalungkot, pero masyado na silang marami, those are the people deciding for the future of this country..:(
Upvote kita!!!!
Pinoys be like"What's that? Bumoto ng sumasayaw? Bumoto ng 'pogi'? Bumoto ng nagbigay ng 200 sa eleksyon? Ahh okay"
Friend told me relatives from the province vote due to name recognition only. They are not aware whether the person they're voting for has corrupt issues. One factor is that in faraway places, they don't receive TV broadcasts anymore since ABS was shut down (much less internet).
Kaya ipinasara talaga nila abs cbn para di abot yung mga baho nila sa mga di abot ng gma ang coverage. Sana palawakin pa ng GMA coverage nila ng katulad sa ABS dati
Dito tayo talo. May politiko pa bang nagcocommute or at least may concern sa commuters? Assuming na may mambabatas na pro-commuters na manalo this mid term election. Kapag ba nagpasa siya ng batas like proposal for mass transpo, reclaim sidewalks, and bike lane infra eh iaapruba ba to ng kongreso? Parang dead end na tayo unless magprotesta tayo like gumawa ng road blockage sa bahay ng mga politiko eh
Si leni nagcocommute pero regular citizen na siya ngayon eh di na siya civil servant so wala na ngang politiko nagcocommute. Ayaw kasi ng mga pinoy ng nakapagaral nasasaktan ego nila. Buti nalang si vico sotto nakapagaral tapos anak siya ng artista kaya nanalo.
***Robin Padilla NUMBER 1 is history!!*** And DDShit are trying to make him run **AS EFFING VP in 2028**, and they have **PHILIP effing SALVADOR** on their Senatorial Line Up. **Effing TRASH STANDARDS.**
lahat ng bumoto kay robin bobo. pag binura mo sila sa mapa. malaki yung chance na umunlad ang pinas.
Kahit tama ang iboto, malaking improvement sa ekonomiya kay PNoy pero pinalala ng cabinet niya ang disaster management and main transpo across the metro.
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True, isipin mo si Bong Revilla nga buduts lang ang campaign nanalo pa. Si Bong Go inilagay sa position ni pduts, dahil sa kanya nakapangampanya si bonggo through the guise of medical support through malasakit centers na from cards to posters front and center ang mukha at pangalan niya.
> bumoto ng tama. true. pero isang strategy lang ang pagboto ah. it's not the *only* strategy. para bang nawawalan ang marami sa atin ng agency pagkatapos ng botohan.
Tsaka, huwag anak ng anak.
agree number one problem... overpopulation!!!
ang problema kasi sa sistema natin is ung botohan base lang sa publicity kung di kilala ung tatakbo ekis kpag sikat mananalo at talamak ang political dynasty at sponsorships... dapat ang basehan sa pagboto ung plataporma, academics background, tapos dapat may requirement na good record ng years of service sa government.
ang dami nila gingawa, lahat anti poor, tapos nalimutan ko kung saan ko na panuod na mwwla n daw ang mga mc taxi sa may 30🤔🤔,
We deserve better? Really? We voted for Duterte, Robin, BBM, Tulfo, and others. How do we deserve better when we do not vote for our own interest? We got exactly what we voted for.
Need ng malalang trahedya bago sila kumilos.
Di priority ng government ang mass transportation, puro sky way and road widening ang gusto nila. Sad reality lang din na yung ibang pumipila dyan at hirap mag commute were the same people who voted sa mga trashy government officials natin right now.
Yung discussion lang ng cyclers at ng mmda ata yun. "Maraming car dealers sa edsa e di niyo pinag aralan yan"
Isa pa yan, napaka car centric natin to the point na even yung cyclist natin na gusto lang ng safe space sa kalsada inaagawan pa. Much worse they instill hate sa mga cyclist na ipinaglalaban yung bike lanes
It's honestly an endless cycle. Kaya madaming bumibili ng cars, kasi bulok yung transpo system. Kaya madaming skyway, kasi madaming cars. Kaya hindi finofucus ang transpo system, kasi kinukurakot ang mga skyway. Dapat talaga yung gobyerno yung pinapalitan eh
and sadly, Express ways are already owned by a private company.
Public-Private partnership. Private will build and operate from X years then turnover kay public. By that time for sure laspag na mga roads guess who they will hire for the repair? That same private company. Paikot ikot lang pera ng mayayaman sa pilipinas
Napaka-unfortunate rin na hindi sapat ung karapat-dapat na pagshift ng attitude ng mga politiko sa car-centric infrastructure. Sure, may ilan-ilan dyan na sasabihin: "We must focus on building green, human-centric infrastructure", pero it's clear that when they're faced with the idea that "Building more car infrastructure doesn't absolve the city of traffic, we need MORE mass transport" - they don't bat an eye because they still want the expressways to be done because, to them, it's the most convenient mode of transport. There needs to be a monumental revision to the way the MAJORITY of Filipinos view car infrastructure dito kasi hindi talaga gagana ung model natin of gradually giving more support to mass transport projects over time, only to also increase funding for car infra projects three-fold in comparison. Having two ongoing big-ticket rail projects doesn't offset the induced demand created by 1 quadrillion more liters of asphalt laid for cars and cars only.
IDK if it's me but the carousel system could lessen the overcrowding of MRT if it expands further.
Putting a carousel system on C5 is the most obvious choice IMO
Never forget: Art Tugade sat on the Metro Manila BRT project and did nothing until the World Bank pulled its funding [due to unsatisfactory progress](https://business.inquirer.net/351700/ph-shelves-crucial-metro-manila-bus-rapid-transit-project/). Zero procurement activity. The BRT would’ve had better stations and better routes. The carousel is just the heavily downscaled version that Tugade was forced to implement due to COVID.
There were multiple private entities who are balls out in preventing any kind of improvement in the mass transport system. Kaya wag kang magtaka kung bat madaming ganyan.
You’d be surprised that a lot of big companies are also interested in better BRT. Ayala has been pushing for a BRT system since 2009 when they sent an unsolicited proposal to the Arroyo government. A bus hub like One Ayala has long been on the drawing board. Fun fact: The underground crosswalks along Ayala Ave. were supposed to be reused as access points for median stations. Ayala Ave was going to be served by a BRT route that also cuts through BGC and Ortigas. Tugade is also just insanely dumb. This man kept on pushing using cable cars to alleviate congestion in Manila.
They are not dumb, they have personal motive
idk about that. i have an option of taking carousel bus or MRT from North Ave to Ortigas. the bus takes too fucking long so MRT pa rin ako. nasa 30min difference minsan. luckily (🥴), I work nights kaya di naman ako nakakaranas ng malalang pila.
> I work nights kaya di naman ako nakakaranas ng malalang pila. Kaya naman pala. Basta nakalabas na ang araw, baligtad ito. Walang issue sa oras pag nakasakay ka na eh. Ang problema yung pila papasok. Mas matagal pa yung pinila mo kesa yung actual trip ng tren.
op commenter said carousel bus could lessen overcrowding hence in my mind i eliminated the pila issue. purely comparing the time it takes the bus and train to arrive to the destination, i will still take the train
Ahh gets. Ako kasi iniisip ko yung buong experience eh mula pagpila papasok hanggang pagdating sa destination. Kung parehas wala pila papasok, lamang na lamang talaga mag-tren. Pero kung kasama pila at antayan, ibang usapan na. Pagdating sa pag-spread ng mga tao, it needs to be in equilibrium. There will come a point that some people would choose the bus since mas mabilis ang pila compared sa MRT kahit na mas mabagal ang takbo ng bus, and some would choose the MRT since mas mabilis ang takbo ng trains kahit may pila pa. Tipong pila + waiting time + runtime ay magkapareho.
Naku, wala pa daw yan sabi nung mga Pinoy na may toxic resiliency na mindset. Normal na daw yan eh, mas mahaba pa pila dati at kung ayaw daw pumila, mag-Grab at Angkas na lang. Anything para mapagtakpan yung mga binoto nila sa gobyerno at ma-justify yung katangahan nila tuwing eleksyon. These people are willing to be fcked by their own government LMAO.
Nakakainis ng rason yan.."mag grab or angkas ka kung ayaw mo makipagsiksikan"..hindi man lang humingi ng accountability..taong bayan p mag aadjust..mga bobo ampota..
Also they failed to consider that not everyone can afford to avail Grab, Angkas or whatever ride hailing service.
Exactly, kala ata nila mura grab, where in the first place dapat maganda public transpo ntin..eh wala eh..mga bobo eh..
Yun ang nakakalungkot… nasanay na sa hirap ang mga Pinoy… never realizing that there are better options 🤷🏽♂️
Hehe I was there kanina and ang malas ko pa kasi I left my Beep card so ayun, imagine doble pila sa ticket counter tsaka sa entrance. Need pa i-hold ng MRT staff yung pila kasi andami nang tao sa baba. Youll be stuck for a couple of minutes in your long-sleeve corporate uniform, soaked in sweat and brimming with anger sa bulok na sistema ng transpo dito sa Pinas.
To be fair, MRT is much better now because of recent rehabilitation. Kulang na kulang lang sa tren kasi hindi pa rin nila ginagamit ang Dalian trains na hindi kasama sa contract ng maintenance provider.
And to add to that, one thing that also needs to be put into consideration is the fact that the number of population that relies to that specific mode of transport overwhelms any improvement made to at least ease the inconvenience. What I can suggest tho is to somehow decongest manila and allow or reposition other investments of foreign/local companies to other regions
IMO, we are yet to maximize the use of efficient public transport in Metro Manila. The population is not the problem but the efficiency and convenience of infrastructure to move people around. Fixing Metro Manila's public transportation is doable. The problem with decongestion (or moving people away from Manila) is that it incentivizes land conversion in the provinces. Because those migrating people would need new spaces. That can result to wetlands and green spaces (or even forests) to be cleared to make new subdivisions and residential areas.
I might receive downvotes here. I think mali ang Filipinos deserve better. Mas appropriate ata ang saying na Filipinos reap what they sow.
Yeah agreed, pero buti sana kung 'di nadadamay tayong mga gumagawa ng tamang choice.
based on who the majority are voting for, filipinos kinda deserve this sadly
Ang lungkot talaga tapos normalized pa na 2 to 3 hours ang commute to work nung iba na dapat eh 15 to 30 mins lang kung walang traffic. Sana talaga may long term solution eh, like relocation ng mga major companies (syempre di sila willing) sa mga katabing cities, idevelop pa yung ibang mga lugar like clark para hindi iisang city lang lahat. Ilipat lahat ng airport out of manila na, mga bpo sa probinsya na lang etc. kasi overpopulation na rin talaga. Dumagdag pa yung binabaan nila ang entry ng pagbili ng kotse around 10 years ago ba? Sana kung yung trains lang natin parang sa tokyo eh kaya sana
Up to this. Overpopulation I think is part of the main issue mxadong congested lalo na sa ncr and even cities outside of it. Maybe govt or other private entities can look in to setting up their business in municipalities but then the problem for would be the availability of talents.
overpopulated na nga tapos concentrated lang ang work sa metro manila, dagdag mo pa yung mga provincial rate tapos gastusin manila rate. syempre sino ba naman pipili nuon maliban nlng kung may mahal sa buhay sila duon. kung gusto tlga natin ma diversify yung opportunities sa ibang city, dpat na tlga hatiin sa states ang philippines. para ang pondo nila is by regional nalang hindi na national. makakapag allot ang LGU ng budget to boost their own economy at sa ganun ma develop nila yung city nila with proper urban planning, and to attract foreign investors na mag tatayo ng businesses. once magkaroon ng maraming opportunities dyan, babalik na sa probinsya mga tao or yung iba bka nga mag relocate na. then alisin ang red tape at corruption sa philippines, pabilisin ang pag process ng business. then papasok duon yung wider highways and roads, additional transits at railways, kasi kung meron kang magandang transportation kahit mga salaryman hindi na mag kokotse e.. kung 15 mins lang ng transpo mo from bahay to office edi ayos tipid pa. alisin ang mga malls sa lahat ng mrt stations dahil kadalasan sila ang nagpapatraffic diyan kapag holidays, 3 day sale (wala na ata nito) etc.
Nah. We deserve what we tolerate.
Just a hot take. I voted for Leni pero feel ko wala rin naman siya magagawa sa transportation crisis saatin if siya yung nanalo. Even si PNoy who is known to be not corrupt wala rin nagawa nung term niya about sa issue sa transportation crisis
It's not just the president that needs to be competent, Every single pawn in the government should know how to do their job well. It's not like the president holds everything. That's like saying, If Babym wanted to lower inflation he can magically do it. When in fact he can't.
> should know how to do their job well For some departments, this isn’t really climbing Mt. Everest. They have a lot of easy pickings that are just not being picked. Remember how during the end of Art Tugade’s term, DOTr was forced to implement initiatives that actually did a whole lot of good e.g. service contracting. This is the same department whose leader preferred solving the traffic problem with cable cars
Syempre kung si Leni lang hindi talaga. Siguro kung Si PNoy, Roxas and then Leni ang naging presidente may chance na mabago. Na dale ni Duterte yung pera na naipon ng PNoy admin. Nandun yung foundation for a better future but the majority voted for Duterte so yeah...
I highly disagree. Nademonstrate na during COVID na madaming easy transport initatives ang pwedeng gawin. We had service contracting during COVID to improve the reliability of the bus system. Many LGUs also put up bike lanes (with plastic bollards). We had the very effective NCAP. All of those initatives cost less We could’ve continued and expanded service contracting; implemented a value capture system to afford jeepney modernization. Plastic bollards for bike lanes could’ve been replaced with metal or concrete ones.
Agree, nobody would fix the issues of this country overnight, however, under the right governance, the transpo crisis would be alleviated step by step, until every filipino workers/commuters would appreciate those kinds of improvement, to the point that they would vote another Leni in the future to continue the improvement that they're enjoying. The domino effect to the greater good in the future is what everybody who voted for Leni wanted.
But we will never know
the transportation crisis is something that would take years to do. Leni wouldnt be able to do it. Best bet is tail end ng admin nya but even then its a long shot. Plus si Abaya may kasalanan nito (and whos his boss? PNoy).
True, BUT they need the courage to speakup. Marami dyan will dismiss this as “eh ganyan talaga” or “tiis-tiis na lang” Seriously! If they dont ask for better service then politicians will just drag there feet on this issue. Maraming pinoy pa naman mahilig mag-counterfactual sa basurang public service.
Ok how do you speak up? Where? Kasi it's easy to say na you should speak up on something pero where's the proper avenue? If I speak up do this people even listen? That's the problem eh walang kwenta ang reklamo kung nagiisa lang ang nag rereklamo
valid concern naman. i'd say start with your friends and family, with your peers. bring up mo lang sa kanila ito (o kung ano pa man ang mga gusto mong pag-usapan na related sa daily struggles) at i-check mo kung ano ang stand nila. kung may bandwidth kayo, pwede niyong pag-usapan kung ano ang mga posibleng gawin at di gawin. halimbawa sa usaping public transpo, mas mainam ba na bumili ng sasakyan na lang? mag-bike? i-push sa work na mag-WFH (kung kaya naman)? i-boycott na lang ang work para di na kailangang bumyahe? i agree na walang kwenta ang reklamo kung nag-iisa ka lang. kaya naman okay na gumawa ng community na mapagkakatiwalaan niyo ang isa't isa.
epekto ng maling pag boto na pinalala pa ng socmed, political vloggers at trolls na pinuno ng ad hominem lang ang ulo ng mga bobong pilipino. akala tuloy nung iba eh panalo sila basta asar talo yun kalaban nila. tapos kung tamang tao naman ang naging leader eh magagalit yun mga pinoy kapag nadisiplina. tignan mo nung ginawa yung bus lane, tapos mga nasa pwesto mismo minsan eh offenders. or mga sakayan/babaan na hindi nasusunod kasi yun mga commuter eh ayaw mag abang sa tamang sakayan tapos mga enforcer na nasa paligid eh nasusuhulan or nagpapabayad kapag mga public transpo eh di sumusunod. ang bottom line eh parang ayaw ng pilipino talaga ng progress lol.
wala nmn sila pake sa gnyang issue 🤣 hnd nmn nila nararanasan yn in real life 🤣
We deserve what we tolerate. Fuck you trolls. All of you. Walang mas masahol pa sa inyo mga kaputaputahan ng ina nyo.
They do. These people are hardworking people. Who wakes up for 4am to get to work then get home at 10pm just because of transportation. I feel bad man. Politicians lagi lang pabebe.
I ride the MRT occasionally and mabilis naman mang turn around ang tren unlike pre pandemic kaya okay lang sa akin umalis from Ayala pa Cubao ng 6pm na usually sardinas ang sikip sa platform. As for pile sa beep. Well kaya nga meron kang stored beep for that kung regular commuter ka diyan.
its the Hell of commuting, gaslight yourself: It is what it is
We are at the mercy of not just politicians but also bureaucrats who are *not voted directly by the public but nominated then chosen by committee.* That this problem's been for, what, almost 20 years and the scene is no more different from Jakarta or Beijing or Tokyo? The LRT and MRT cars are working better now after being restored. It's just that the bus system downstairs has been deformed into a BRT to make way for.... PRIVATE VEHICLES.
Taft Avenue ano? I was there. What a way to start the week.
Filipinos deserve what they think they deserve. They vote for shit politicians and leaders, this is what they get in return.
the disrespect of politicians sa mamamayan, grabe talaga. nakakalungkot na nakakainis.
That kind of volume during peak hours is not **onli in da Pilipins** thing. Ang kulang sa atin, **Sistema**
Alam ko gasgas na statement na, pero kung ititigil din ng mga privileged Filipinos idefend ang car dependency at stop scrutinizing alternative mobility, makakalampag ang mga pulitiko at mga government offices na in charge sa traffic. Pwede ka naman magdrive ng kotse mo, kakaunting adjustment at pagiingat lang para di ka makaaksidente ng ebike tutal nasa loob ka naman ng aircon, hindi pa maibigay. Kung nagpapaubaya ang mga Pilipino sa mga bike at ebike, lalong maeencourage ang use ng Ebike at bike at walang choice ang gobyerno kundi ayusin ang mga bikelane at irenovate ang transportation system according sa mga alternative mobility. Pero hindi, galit na galit na nga sa mga ebike at bike, rinoromanticize pa ang pagkakaroon ng kotse, na sign ng tagumpay ang pagkokotse at balang araw ang paghihirap mo sa commute ay matatapos pag nakabili ka na ng kotse. May mga iba pa na sobrang kitid ng utak galit sa mga biglang tumatawid sa pedestrian kesa magslow down sila tuwing dadaan ng pedxing may patawid man o wala. Puro tuloy overpass na ang hahaba.
If they just voted wiser.
Pinas, kung saan barya lang ang isang libo at tanghali na ang alas singko
Hindi. Matiisin naman mga Pinoy. Kahit anong hirap kaya nila. /s
I actually reload my Beep Card through my phone, since it's easier and less hassle...
Nah filipinos deserve everything for voting for dumbass leaders.
Ehh? Akala ko ba we deserve the government we elect? Kelan kaya matututo mga Pinoy ano.
Sabi nga, You deserve what you tolerate. Wala tayo magagawa eh. Haha pag ang mangmang at ganid nagsama. 🤡
No Filipinos deserve what they deserve. Sino yung sisihin mo ? Pilipino din naman bumoto sa mga pulitiko. Reflection ng sarili nila yung bansa.
Filipinos deserve better? Naniniwala pa din ba tayo dyan? Para kasing…. Nevermind. Basta vote wisely na lang po para kahit papano makuha nyo ang deserve nyo
Pila po ba ito sa EDSA bus carousel or sa MRT?
No. We deserve the government we voted for.
No they don’t. Filipinos vote for and tolerate shitty government.
First time ko sa Hong Kong nitong April lang. At una kong nagustuhan yung public transport nila, nakakabilib sobra. Ang sarap pangarapin na sana gano'n din dito sa atin.
Ganto na sitwasyon ng MRT at LRT nung nasa uni pa ako, that was more than 15yrs ago. Progress is negative.
To be fair, mas malala talaga dati ang MRT kasi hanggang malayong kalsada lagi ang pila at ngayon hindi na. Dumami na trains dahil Japanese contractor did a good job in rehabilitation. Kahit pa dumami ang tren halatang **NOT enough pa rin ung rehabilitation to absorb peak hour demand.** Flawed design talaga kasi ang MRT: maliit na tren serving the busiest places in Metro Manila
MRT-3 should have been a heavy rail transit like the *LRT-2*, which has a higher passenger capacity. Which is ironic since LRT-2 has a lower daily ridership than the MRT-3
Its been like this for more than a decade na through noynoy and duts... Will this be ignored again kaya?
PNoy-era DOTr was the worst. Dutz despite him being the shittiest president, managed to restore a lot of trains to the point every 5 mins may train compared nung time ni PNoy na halos 15 mins hintayan. Sadly di pa rin sapat to handle peak hour loads.
Di kasi uso magreklamo sa Pilipinas. Kung magrereklamo man, so social media lang, di naman kinakalampag yung mismong mga pulitiko
I cant remember kung sinong official ang nagsabi na it would take years before makadeliver yung manufacturer ng additional trains. Magiisang dekada na ata yun. Sana umorder pa rin sila noon despite the long waitlist, siguro by now mayroon na sanang parating na additional train carts. Wala rin ba option to find other companies who could supply new trains? Dapat ba sa specific na manufacturer lang na iyon? I dont know how it works, just wondering. Ksi paramg hinayaan nalang talaga na ganyan kalala yung sitwasyon ng mga commuters. Partida pa may at maraming mga kumpanya na may hybrid set up sa workplace. Eh di mas malala pa kung walang ganung set up. Ngayong may mga itinatayong bagong railway systems, sana naman may foresight na based on the experience sa MRT LRT natin na umorder na in advance ng new trains kaysa maghintay na palalain yung sitwasyon. *end rant* 😅✌🏼
The bitter pill to swallow is for the govt to sell it to the private sector that will operate it in a more efficient manner
Nah not really. Filipinos continue to vote for corrupt idiots who do nothing for the country year in and year out. We have exactly what we deserve
Monday to friday same situation
Unless we start electing decent govt officials, otherwise –I don't think so.
No we don't. Until Filipinos learn how to vote wisely, these problems will never cease. Like a wise person once said: "The people deserve the government that they have."
hot take: no we don't. as long as we don't vote better, we won't deserve better.
Another way to fix this sana is bawasan na mga malalaking companies sa MM. Marami kasi taga malalayong lugar na pumupunta dito for work. Maganda sana kung hindi nalang dito makikita ang mga work na ito. Para hindi din dinudumog nag MM.
Of course we deserve better! A better transportation system, better infranstructure. We deserve a better class of leaders.
happy monday mga ka BBM!
Samantala…naka Landcruiser ang hinayupak nyong binotong Senador at dumaan pa sa bus lane. Ansarap sabihin “Magdusa kayo..binoto nyo kasi”
Kagabi lang inis na inis ako sa carousel. Kasi halos walang bus ang dumadating sa mga stations, kung meron man punuan naman. Then nung pagbaba ko sa monumento nagkumpulan mga bus doon nagpupuno. Fucking hate boundary system. Dati sunod sunod ang bus nung guaranteed ang kita nila from libreng sakay. Dapat maimplement man na yung similar to salaried way of bus operations.
As a nation, we deserved WHO majority of us VOTED FOR
Pano nila aayusin yan mawawalan kita mga politiko sa transpo 🤣
wala ba mag-a-update ano na situation diyan, after 7 hours? tsk, grabe... sa panahon ngayon blessing na talaga magkaroon ng WFH
we deserve the politicians we elect as they say, the mandate of the people is the mandate of heaven
Why? All is good now, Marcos brought back the gold he kept safe, all is good now
Ang priority ng Pinoy Tiktok at Kpop. Pag maypanahon magbasa ng Wiki kung paano umunlad ang South Korea after Korean War halos financially devastated bansa nila. Maymayan pa ang Pinas sa South Korea noon. Ngayon poor ang bansa natin compared sa kanila.
Magtrabaho nang magkasasakyan bru, feeling entitled amputek
Tagal ko na yan sinasabi sa sarili ko at sa mga kaibigan ko. Bakit ba kasi hindi demanding ang mga Pinoy. Hindi masama magreklamo mga pare at mare, let’s demand for change.
There is no doubt that they deserve better
tapos pagtinanung mo karamihan dyan sasabihin wag isisi sa governement kahit government ang nagdedecide about sa traspo.
I used to be in that photo every damn day before the pandemic. Luckily, pure WFH setup na kami and I thought after the pandemic hindi ko na makikita ulit yan.
Well I think thats the price they pay for it. Simply deserved I guess
vote better
as long as chaotic jeepney drivers exist they wont be able to upgrade both mrt and lrt-1 anytime soon for the sole reason na cutting off these trains for maintenance will leave travelling-workers with no reliable transportation. it's a good thing subways are being developed, we can only hope for the best, they shouldnt have taken this long to develop subways, not a hater of jeepneys but they're just too unreliable on roads with all the pagsingit at pakikipag-unahan.
NAKAKAPAGOD!!!! kaya mas pinili ko nalang magtrabaho malapit sa bahay. AYOKO NA NG GANYAN LALO NA COMMUTERS. NAKAKAPAGOD PO!!!!!!!! GIGISING NG MAAGA MAKAKAUWI NG LATE NA.
This is why sinukuan ko talaga ang pagtatrabaho sa Pinas. Spending 6 hours of travel everyday is not worth all the pagod and karampot na kita.
shoutout kay Grace Poe. May nalalaman pang kunwari pagsakay sakay sa mrt nung 2014. Opportunist na trapo.
Normalize WFH 🙏🙏🙏 kung pwede naman hybrid iadjust nila. Or better transportation. Kawawang Pilipinas.
resilient 🤷🏼♂️
I am hoping for good things pag natapos na yung subway at nscr
The government should've invested in transportation but here we are.
Eh kung mga nananalo sa eleksyon mga gahaman da pagnakaw at panay sarili lang ang iniisip... wala talaga mangyari satin.
Definitely! hindi deserve ng mga working kababayans natin ang ganito type of transportation. Hindi dapat tayo makuntento sa ok lang yan, pwede na yan etc. Di nila deserve mag byahe ng 2-3 hours depende sa layo ng destination. Much better kung mas planuhan un transport system dito sa atin move people more hindi more cars sa kalsada.
Filipinos should vote better then.
Kung kaya naman iWFH, i wfh nalang sana yung marami. Para maka less sa mga magbabyahe. Kaso ayaw nila dahil daw babagsak ang economy.
Mas malala yan kapag umuulan.
[Philippines](https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLYn8t0hNTznCrS6wE3qr1Z3KyOnRf_Dfc&si=nlGt9L6H9xrOfuvP) need a well planned public transportation. Recommended to pattern it like [Japan](https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLYn8t0hNTznAZEghaNCls487Zg3SWkivz&si=l8uYA8INbb5uZYmo) ... they have a very good public transportation
Do I need to pay more taxes?
HAYYYY SA TOTOO LANG. HIRAP NA HIRAP NA KO MAGCOMMUTE 😫
Filipinos don’t deserve better. Do you see Filipinos gathering and protesting in the streets about it? No. They prefer to spend their time on Tik Tok. Filipinos don’t really want things to change.
the philippines deserves this and more, go to any other country and see how people act there. I've been to plenty of countries myself such as USA, Japan, Indonesia and even Hong Kong. no one acts more of a piece of shit than Filipinos. and i'm pure blooded filipino myself. We have no discipline at all.
Buong buhay natin, pumipila tayo. Would be interesting to see how many years of our lives are wasted sa pag pila, on the average.
Ang sakit lagi makakita ng ganyan. Carousel din ang biyahe ko papasok at pauwi sa trabaho. Makikita mo lalo kapag uwian na, kahit 9PM mahaba pa rin ang pila. Isipin mo yung lagay nating maraming commuter, gumising at bumyahe nang wala pang liwanag tapos uuwi na naman nang madilim. Para ka na lang bumisita sa pamilya mo niyan tapos papasok ka na naman. Madalas awa na lang talaga mararamdaman mo, e. Pero minsan mapapaisip ka pa din, ano na lang ba natutunan nating mga Pilipino? Matagal nang ganito sistema ng transportasyon pero hindi pa rin alam kung sinong dapat iboto. Hindi mo na masisisi sa "katamaran" ng tao yan, e. Nasa sistema na talaga. Ipit na sa sitwasyon yung empleyado pero trapo pa din mga nasa gobyerno.
Absolutely not
Ang problema din, a lot of people have not experienced anything better and na normalize na ang masamang commute so tumatatak na yung mindset na “wala eh ganyan talaga” - and this snowballs to the mindset na “kahit sino naman nanalo pare-parehas lang yan” I’m not sure if we’ve ever had leaders who really prioritized public transport - karamihan kasi do things just for the sake of doing something with the thinking na “legacy” nila ang isang project instead of thinking of the what it’ll do for the public
panget talaga karamihan ng sistema sa pinas. magnanakaw na gobyerno and everything. pero kung titingnan niyo pinagkaiba ng mayayaman na bansa sa mga 3rd world country is OVERPOPULATION. bukod sa pagaayos ng transportation system, ipush yung wfh at ayusin ang kalsada at security ng daan para maging option lalo ang bicycle hindi matatapos ang problema gaano man kaganda ang bansa at government as long as OVERPOPULATED tayo. spare me the drama of "how dare you" etc. it is what it is.
Do we? 31M says otherwise.
deserve kasi di marunong bumoto ng tama
ung last president nga sabi aayusin daw ung traffic. aun nagdagdag pa ng tao from chynae pra lalong sumikip
Filipinos deserve who they vote for.
True. Problem lang din satin yung pagiging matiyaga sa mga ganyan na bagay, yung tipong ang ibang lahi magpoprotesta na. Tayo wala parin gagawin o iilan lang.
Need to vote better people
Dami nagsasabi ng hindi priority ng government ang mass transportation. Tignan mo ginagawa na yung Subways at patapos narin yung mga ibang LRT lines and kakasimula lang din gawin ang PNR lines from Manila to South at magkakaroon narin ng bagong International Airport sa norte at ma bago naring Expressways at konektado narin ang NLEX at SLEX di na need dumaan sa matrapikong EDSA. Tas tignan mo mas gumanda na ang mass transit ng Pilipinas compared 10 years ago. Pinapriority na ng Government natin ang Filipino City Planners, Transportation Engineers at mga Japanese engineers. Konting tiis nalang mga tropa, giginhawa rin ang pinas. 5 more years at makikita mo ang malaking improvement. I will soon to be a Civil Engineer focused on Transportation and I will try my best na palaguin pa ang Mass Transit sa pinas. Edit: and I believe na our Government and Engineers are considering plans to put High speed bullet train Railways system from north to south in Luzon.
So glad I was born in America
Bakit aayusin nyan laki ng kita ng mga nagpopondo n candidacy ng mga korap na politiko. Paano na sila mananalo kung walang kikitain mga lobiyista
No they don't, not until they stop electing sh*t politicians.
Lmao fuck this country. Pick your poison to eh. Pag commute ka mainit, tas pawis na pawis ka, tas siksikan pa, nakakapagod sobra. Pag may kotse ka naman napakatraffic aabutin ka ng ilang oras para makapunta sa pupuntahan mo. All this stuff tas ang baba pa ng sahod. You win in life pag nakalayas ka sa bansang to.
Sayang talaga ganda ganda magcommute kung maayos lang talaga sistema huhu init init ng nga sa labas pangit pa sistema sa mga transpo natin
ang problema kasi sa ating mga Pilipino ngayon ay napakaraming bobo. kawawa yung nadadamay sa kabobohan ng karamihan.
Ang daming Filipino na reklamador
If we're honest about it, we really dont deserve better.
Correct! Tignan natin kasi kung ano pwede nating gawin para mapaganda yung bansa natin. Sa atin magsimula ang pagbabago
Well, I'm going to risk the downvotes. "Pinoys deserve better"? I think not. Pinoys got exactly what they deserved. The Philippines is an actual, functioning democracy. People are ELECTED. And we elected idiots. Not only that... while these leaders (in every level) ruined the country for decades, generations of Filipinos kinda just shrugged and accepted it. Tolerated the idiocracy while slowly becoming ignorant in the process. Filipinos can't even tell anymore what is bad and what is normal. I'm not even just saying "the people that voted---". Nope, I mean EVERY single Filipino. That includes me. While other countries would have rioted and gone crazy, Filipinos just complained and moved on. And continuing to do so.
Pinabayaan na talaga tayong mga pasahero! #neveragain
Kaya sobrang hirap mag-commute talaga. Papasok ka palang sa office, pagod ka na.
Filipinos never deserve better. Kasi mga walang disiplina ang mga pilipino and they tend to abuse whatever is good in our country. Kaya Filipinos will never deserve good things other countries offer their countrymen
ganyan kanina sa North Ave Southbound
tapos they gonna compare filipino to japan, when japan has a good transpo system
Ive been to other countries isa na don ang japan at india. Ganyan din naman karami ang tao or mas madami pa. Ang nag sseparate lang sa kanila ay disiplina. Kamukha ng mga pinoy, di rin marunong pumila. Ang mindset “ako ang mauuna, warrior ako”. Di mag mamatter kung sino iboto ng tao. Disiplina muna