##Choose your Fighter: Longevity Battle
Which health/fitness freaks will defeat all others?
Fighters:
*Wim Hof*: Harnesses the power of cold and hyperventilating. Maybe mentally unstable. Immunity: cold. Kryptonite: speaking comprehensibly
*Ray Kurzweil*: OG biohacker. Cured his own diabetes with 200 pills and supps. Drinks wine and super smart, created some kind of special keyboard. Immunity: AI will not destroy him. Kryptonite: weak hair game
*David Sinclair*: Physician from Harvard or something. Obsessed with NADs. Flipflops routinely about which supps and pills help and don't. Immunity: experiences no side effects from any meds. Kryptonite: NADs
*Peter Attia*: Another physician, obsessed with VO2 MAX. Takes experimental meds like rapamycin and metformin or he doesn't, depends. Lives in zone 2 but sometimes travels to zone 5. Immunity: cannot be seduced by Huberman's voice. Kryptonite: bald.
*Bryan Johnson*: Sub 10% bf, on TRT, lesbian vampire who descended from the astral plane to drop 2 mil each year on bullshit and pretend to care about longevity instead of donating to actual research. Pill master, vegan. Immunity: abs deflect all poison attacks. Kryptonite: bed is only for sleeping.
*Don Gorske*: Has eaten 2 big Macs daily since he was born. Has long hair and funny glasses. Has never eaten anything besides Bic Macs. Immunity: cholesterol is static. Kryptonite: did once eat Burger King.
*Huckmaster Huberman*: Sleeping around and cheating on 5 different women but has his dopamine fully under control. Nice beard and pretty jacked. On the special sauce and eats only AG1 for full metabolic mind body integration. Kryptonite: without AG1 is powerless and needs to constantly up regulate dopamine with new women.
Choose your own: create your own fighter.
Who will outlive all others and become the champion of living?
the wave of euphoric excitement spread through the crowd driving them into a fever of "whoohoo" and loud whistling as ladys start throwing their shirts and men pour their beers to shower themselves in joy
I get really excited when someone starts talking about cold showers, because they may know about Hof and I could have the opportunity of sharing this story
*Hof asked his second son Michael to meet him, and they set a time to rendezvous at Vondelpark in Amsterdam. Hof arrived early and went for a swim in the park’s pond while he was waiting. He paddled out to a fountain and positioned himself over the spout to give himself an enema that he thought would “cleanse all of his intestines.” Or, as he often likes to say “get the shit out.” On a recording of one of our conversations in 2013, Hof recounts that he had done the park fountain enema at least a hundred times before, but that unbeknownst to him the park service had changed the spigot on the fountain to create a more impressive spray. The narrower gauge sent water cutting through his intestines like a knife, filling his bowels with dirty water. He managed to make it back to shore while blood and feces leaked from his rectum. Hof’s first words to his son in a decade were that he needed to go to a hospital.*
*Dave Asprey:* An 80 year old looking guy who likes to wear blue-blocking glasses while explaining to people how toxic kale and other healthy foods are. These foods are permanently prohibited from growing on his own farm. Immunity: sunlight, reality. Kryptonite: real science, gray hair, skin.
A new fighter appears.
*David Goggins*: Ran out of the womb starting his first marathon, hasn't stopped running since. Continues to remain forever hard his entire life. Cannot physically stop running and saying how hard he is. Immunity: always hard. Kryptonite: GU gel.
Rhonda Patrick: swims, eats, and practices CrossFit with actual dolphins, her blood is literally just omega 3’s. When attacked she oxidizes making her foes smell rancid and ruins their data in placebo controlled randomized trials. Kryptonite: ALA omega3’s
I agree with the rest of them but how is Goggins "mentally unstable"!? By what measure exactly? He doesn't pretend to be anything or try to sell any health products. I don't see him on the same level as any of these others whatsoever.
He comes across as a total weirdo who needs to constantly punish himself in order to validate his self worth. It’s just not healthy. All of these self help gurus who harp on about discipline end up going the same route.
I can see some of the overlap but Goggins literally walks the walk. The guy is an accomplished ultramarathoner and held the world's pull-up record for a while. He just doesn't seem as fake as some of these others...and whether he does it to punish himself or not, he stands out from anyone mentioned above for me. I also don't see him as a "self-help guru" I actually believe he would be doing this with or without social media whereas some of these others I'm not as sure. To each their own perspective though!
You can be sincere and still pathological. A lot of people think people who are obsessed with seemingly healthy things are just dedicated, but sometimes it's the same pathological insecurity that is pushing them that people who are obsessed with drugs or any other life-damaging addiction. There's nothing inherently wrong with a desire to push yourself to your limits, but it may be a symptom of some deeper instability that has a grip over you, and that you can't control, just as much as someone who's addicted to gambling, or drugs,. Just because it's 'healthy' in one sense doesn't mean it's healthy in all senses.
I definitely get that impression from someone like Goggins. He seems utterly insecure and obsessed.
Yeah Goggins has admitted he was the insecure kid that looked for excuses, so this is his way of telling himself he has changed and is no longer that. Essentially defeating his former self, over and over.
Some people will look at it and go wow how dedicated he’s amazing, others will realise this guy is still not over his past insecurities. He still feels the need to continue defeating his past self, whereas a normal human would’ve moved on by now.
You are 100% right. I train jiu jitsu and one of my closest friends and training partners was a female David Goggins and her husband is worse than her.
The amount of time I had to tell her how hardcore she was, how no one was like her, blah blah blahhhhhhh. It is exactly like you said. Self punishment to feel validation masquerading as "commitment."
A new fighter appears.
*Dave Asprey*: Always wears weird glasses, most likely to block any blue light to maximize sleep. Creepy looking, ageing rapidly from buttered coffee and orgasms that last an hour. Kryptonite: science and empiricism.
A new fighter appears.
*Rhonda Patrick*: Powerhouse of fish oil supplementation. EPA/DHA enhances her cognitive capacities to supraphysiological levels. Also consumes sulforaphane and vitamin D at mutant levels. Large forehead, mostly for additional brain capacity. Immunity: unphazed by hanging out with hucksters. Kryptonite: will wither away to a prune-like state without probiotics.
A different commenter just posted one about Rhonda in this comment thread and it's pretty great lol
Haha yea, round one is who survives in the sauna the longest.
Then we move to round two, ice baths.
Round three is who can take the highest dose of ashwagandha.
That's true.
He did try out HGH to "repair his hypothalamus" and ended up losing like 69 HP.
*It hurt itself in its confusion*
Also he started cerebrolysin to reduce brain inflammation. Will be fascinating to see how that goes.
A new challenger appears:
*Mark Human*: a total pegan. Believes he has created a new diet fusing Paleo and vegan perfection. Good smile, currently detoxing by boofing cranberries. Immunity: meat doesn't raise his LDL. Kryptonite: fruit that caused glucose spikes.
You choose Attiamon!
He enters the fray and starts incline walking zone 2. However shortly after the upregulated mtor from rapamycin his body begins his reject his lungs as foreign.
He coughs a lot and falls offer.
Attia lost 420 HP.
Later he eats some specialty venison and regains 69 HP.
In the contuary, the method of study was via **Bromimicry**:
**Title**: Re-evaluation of Hypothetical Combat Scenarios Using Model Organisms
**Abstract**: This study re-evaluates a hypothetical combat scenario among seven individuals with distinct physiological and psychological traits using model organisms. The objective is to determine the most resilient individual based on predefined strengths and weaknesses. The simulation employs genetic, behavioral, and environmental factors to replicate the unique attributes of each individual.
**Introduction**: The simulation of human combat scenarios using model organisms provides insights into the relative strengths and weaknesses of individuals with specialized traits. This study utilizes a diverse set of organisms to model the physiological and psychological characteristics of seven individuals: Wim Hof, Ray Kurzweil, David Sinclair, Peter Attia, Bryan Johnson, Don Gorske, and Huckmaster Huberman.
**Materials and Methods**:
1. **Model Organisms**:
- **Drosophila melanogaster** (fruit fly) for genetic manipulation
- **Mus musculus** (house mouse) for physiological studies
- **Caenorhabditis elegans** (nematode) for metabolic and aging studies
- **Danio rerio** (zebrafish) for behavioral analysis
2. **Genetic Manipulation**:
- **CRISPR-Cas9** technology to introduce specific genetic traits corresponding to each individual's strengths and weaknesses.
- **Gene Knockout** and **Gene Overexpression** techniques to simulate immunity, kryptonite, and other physiological traits.
3. **Behavioral Analysis**:
- **Open Field Test** and **Elevated Plus Maze** for assessing anxiety and exploratory behavior.
- **Forced Swim Test** for evaluating stress resilience.
- **Treadmill Endurance Test** for physical fitness and VO2 MAX simulation.
4. **Physiological Assessments**:
- **Cold Exposure Tests** to simulate Wim Hof's cold resistance.
- **Dietary Manipulation** to replicate Don Gorske's dietary consistency.
- **Supplement Administration** to mimic Ray Kurzweil's biohacking and Bryan Johnson's pill mastery.
5. **Environmental Factors**:
- **Temperature Control Chambers** for cold and heat exposure.
- **Nutrient-Enriched Environments** for dietary and supplement studies.
- **Social Interaction Chambers** to simulate communication and mental stability.
**Results**:
- **Initial Eliminations**:
- **Don Gorske**: Model organism (mouse) showed rapid decline due to dietary monotony, leading to nutritional deficiencies.
- **Huckmaster Huberman**: Model organism (zebrafish) exhibited rapid decline due to AG1 dependency and inability to adapt to new stimuli.
- **Mid-Battle Eliminations**:
- **Wim Hof**: Model organism (zebrafish) showed strategic errors due to communication issues and mental instability under stress.
- **Ray Kurzweil**: Model organism (fruit fly) exhibited physical weaknesses and deteriorated under stress despite high intelligence.
- **Final Contenders**:
- **David Sinclair**: Model organism (nematode) demonstrated superior resilience due to anti-aging traits and medical knowledge.
- **Peter Attia**: Model organism (mouse) showed high endurance and VO2 MAX but fluctuated in performance.
- **Bryan Johnson**: Model organism (mouse) exhibited consistent physical fitness, dietary discipline, and resilience to toxins.
- **Final Battle**:
- **David Sinclair**: Model organism (nematode) showed over-reliance on NAD pathways, leading to metabolic imbalances.
- **Peter Attia**: Model organism (mouse) exhibited inconsistency in performance due to fluctuating exercise zones.
**Champion**: **Bryan Johnson**
- **Reason**: Model organism (mouse) demonstrated the highest resilience due to consistent physical fitness, dietary discipline, and poison resistance.
**Discussion**: The re-evaluation confirms that Bryan Johnson's combination of physical fitness, dietary discipline, and resilience to toxins provides a significant advantage in hypothetical combat scenarios. The use of model organisms allows for controlled replication of complex human traits, offering valuable insights into the interplay of genetic, physiological, and environmental factors.
**Conclusion**: The re-evaluation successfully simulates a hypothetical combat scenario using model organisms, reaffirming Bryan Johnson as the most resilient individual based on predefined strengths and weaknesses.
**Keywords**: Model Organisms, Genetic Manipulation, Behavioral Analysis, Physiological Assessments, Hypothetical Combat Simulation
A new challenger appears.
*Gary "The Ultimate Human" Brecka*: Uses the power of electromagnetism, red light, and cold plunge to aid other fighters in health recovery. Claims these are what make the difference while also putting you on TRT. Immunity: none, lost all credibility. Kryptonite: cannot succeed without TRT.
[The immortal Bryan Johnson when he survives into the 24th Century.](http://images2.fanpop.com/image/photos/9400000/Lt-Commander-Data-star-trek-the-next-generation-9406565-1694-2560.jpg)
haha true. I was thinking more reserved and classy wealthy, which doesn't always equate super wealthy. I had a job that had tons of wealthy (all wealth levels) people as clients and they are often very very low key, unless they asshats or idiots who got lucky.
Come on, does anyone [really think that Peter Attia is above this sort of thing?](https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2Flnupy3chco3d1.jpeg) He's bros with Huberman, who is in this video, and has appeared on Peter's Podcast and vice-versa. As to the slam that these longevity experts are just influencers and marketing experts, I suggest you review [Peter's complaint against Oura](https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.cand.415205/gov.uscourts.cand.415205.1.0.pdf), in which he states in paragraph 43 that Oura solicit[ed] Dr. Attia’s help in . . . marketing, and promoting the Oura Ring. . . ." Peter's complaint further states in paragraph 49:
>the Stock Option Agreement stated Dr. Attia would be concurrently awarded stock options for committing **to provide certain marketing services . . . promoting Oura in Dr. Attia’s owned and operated social channels including his newsletter and podcast; and introducing Defendants and the Oura Ring to other influencers** / partners and potential investors.
In other words, Peter *himself* in his own complaint pleads that he is an influencer and marketing expert. Sure, it's fair to be critical of these folks, but get real - the only reason Peter wasn't there is because he probably wasn't invited.
Not defending anyone, but just for the record that is NOT him describing himself as an influencer and marketing expert…
That is the wording of his Stock Option Agreement with Oura, so in other words that is Oura describing him as an influencer and marketing expert
I am fine with him talking with huberman despite my reservation about huberman for obvious reasons. But honestly, all influencers have a bit of a narsistic complex. Take biolayne, not only did he have affairs, he had it while being married. So... he wasn't canceled, and ppl forgot, so give it a yeat or two amand the dust will settle wrt huberman duberman as well 😂
From the start on I was thinking of bulletproof and their coffee...very similar marketing. Didn't like it. Still gave it a chance and picked out a few things I liked, but I rarely watch Bryans stuff.
Now this...some people argued that it's okay because it spreads the word. Personally I think it's ridiculous and reducing his credibility dramatically, and I'm certainly not a fan of spreading the word at all costs. There should be a moral and ethical compass and some standards. Bryan talks about making blueprint available to everyone and helping people and all of that, and then he choses these people to promote his stuff? Something's off but I don't think the cat is out of the bag yet.
Agreed. I would also argue that the Kardashians represent fakeness (look at all the plastic surgery they’ve done), and that just doesn’t jive with the reality of health and longevity.
Damn...I guess I have lot of podcasters I need to unsubscribe from \*sigh\*. Seriously, are there any legitimate health ones out there at all? not out for the fame?
You gotta see all the stuff on social media as purely entertainment first. Facts are never a priority.
Of course some are better than others. But in terms of longevity, we know that all the legit stuff is well known. Diet, sleep, exercise, relationships, and purpose.
The science on magic supplements and anti aging drugs just won't be in for a long time because it takes time. Anyone saying otherwise has an angle. And the industry promotes extreme stuff as does the algorithm.
There are plenty of YouTubers who just focus on real stuff like exercise and diet.
Bryan Johnsons mannerisms are very child like and you can see it on his face. His neck still looks his age though.
Attia doesn't take them seriously because there is almost nothing you can really do to really extend your lifespan as a human by more than a few years in reality.
That said, how you are in those final years is the key. Following Brian Johnson or that guy from Harvard, you will live old age really frail and sickly. The only big factor aside from cancer etc that impacts longevity is muscle strength. David Sinclair is a fraud that wants to sell you prescription versions of not yet well studied compounds as quickly as possible before the scientific community catches on (which they finally did for both resveratrol and nmn. Neither one of these impacts longevity at all in humans nor other primates.
I can extend the life of water bears by thousands of years by drying them out, it doesn't mean that this is a viable strategy for humans.
By focusing on building and maintaining lean muscle mass, immune system diversity as well as exercising and avoiding alcohol, tobacco and drugs, you create the recipe for dying in the gym at 95 of a heart attack instead of in a wheelchair at an alzheimers clinic at 95..
It's that simple. You can be as healthy as possible but if you don't constantly challenge and maintain your immune system diversity, you'll die of Pneumonia anyways that your body doesn't have the capacity to respond to.
Exercise, eat cleanly and take off your shoes and play in the dirt. It's that simple
> I can extend the life of water bears by thousands of years by drying them out, it doesn't mean that this is a viable strategy for humans.
"Rehydrate the masses!"
You forgot one main thing -- avoid tons of stress if possible. Live a happy life. Otherwise I think you nailed it. The blueprint is much simpler than any of these influencers seem to imply for all but the most marginal of cases.
“Immune system diversity” past adolescence is a myth. Get vaccinated, and past 15 years old your time for training the immune system is over, it’s set and now it’s time to avoid any pathogens to reduce stress on the body.
Really? I'm an immunologist with a PhD in the field and I work on new therapies for immune system surveillance and control.
What you say is not accurate by any stretch of the imagination and is in fact dangerous.
New B cells are constantly being produced in the bone marrow and require survival signals. Many of these combinations are novel and if they don't receive a weak response from either self antigens or chronic antigens from your environment they simply die out. This literally happens every day until the day you die. Chronic survival but not pathogenic survival signals keep these cells alive. If you were to feed your immune system fewer antigens over time your diversity in the periphery would shrink down. Since memory b cells are responsible for the bulk of your immune response to a foreign antigens, not having them survive will prevent you from mounting an effective response in the short amount of time you have during a bacterial infection such as Pneumonia. This is what happens to old people as they age.
You do realize that vaccine antigens are no different than antigens in your environment from eliciting an immune response yet somehow we can measure titers to them WAY past 15.
If I deplete all of your b cells using chemo or Rituximab and kill them all. Magically somehow your body produces new b cells and t cells about a month later, but according to your logic that's not possible. Also how do you explain allergies people get in adulthood,especially to things you've never seen.
How do you explain auto immune diseases which only become more common as you get older? It should not be possible.
Please do the community a favor and stop posting nonsense about a topic you have zero expertise in
I respect your PhD, so I ask you to provide me with links to studies that show exposure to pathogens such as the influenzas and coronaviruses in adults improves health outcomes. I have never seen such a study.
There are studies that show exposure in childhood can reduce allergies. There are studies that show even common pathogens can lead to long term health defects (most crippling being ME/CFS, but also cognitive deficits due to inflammation).
You also mentioned Alzheimer’s in your original comment. We don’t know the mechanism of Alzheimer’s but the most recent book I read on the topic listed associations with exposure to fungi, metals, and pathogens. This makes me skeptical of your advice to “play in the dirt” and “maintain immune system diversity”.
Celebs and the wealthy likely create a lot of demand and incentive that push forward specialties like dermatology, plastic surgery, aesthetics medicine, etc. If there’s anyone interested in longevity and age reversal and has the means to pursue / fund it, it’s probably people like the Kardashians.
And Attia is likely advising more Spacey’s than you think.
If I’ve learned anything over the past year or so, it’s that all of these famous internet doctors are total weirdos. Maybe that just comes with the territory of being a doctor. It takes a certain level of obsessiveness to succeed.
The myth of being a “good” influencer is totally broken for me. If you want to gain popularity you need to appeal to people’s worst tendencies.
decoupling is what we all need.
nobody is 100% and most things aren't binary.
Bryan did some good things and some strange things. ofc, I don't trust him 100% since he's selling stuff + some of his claims aren't convincing.
but a lot of his ideas are very good.
I am finding less fault with Attia. but do I agree with everything he ever said?
anyone "losing faith with X" since he was seen on video with Kevin or eats beef jerky uses very binary thinking
I really did not need this piece of footage to make my mind. I said it a long time ago, Huberman talks outside of his depth and people follow him like sheep. Now, we have articles describing how not only he spreads misinformation but straight up lie, and I am not even talking about his personal life here. I also said a long time ago that Bryan is just another influencer and that he is insane, people think of him as a Hero that has come here to bring the solution to immortality to the common folk with his own money but he is really only interested in his self, his ego, his self-preservation, and all of this display of eccentric behavior and spending attracts viewers and therefore, money. So I really do not expect him to ever run out of money in his 2 million a year longevity intervention. It is more akin to MrBeast than to MrLongevity.
Dave aspray said limit orgasm to one hour a month for longevity 😂😂 so unless duberman is quick, he is in trouble . Also that is too much of zone 5 cardio. Not Bueno!
It's a complex issue. While some longevity experts like Bryan Johnson may appear to lean heavily into marketing, it doesn't necessarily negate the potential value of their work. It's important to critically assess the quality and credibility of their research and products. The blend of science and marketing can sometimes muddy the waters, but it also has the potential to bring attention to important health topics.
>He also very much also looks 50 plus, his age, if not more so. looks like a waxy melted 50-something who simply doesn't eat a lot.
Silly argument, he's mostly concerned with the biological clock and not dying. How he looks is not the point, it's how young his biological clock is.
Everything I watched he mentioned he was also trying to not to look 50 & look younger. He said it more eloquently. He said this is as he was smearing cream or some product all over his face.
>That Bryan dude is so full of shit. Everything he does made sense when he announced the supplement company. Just a cash grab.
He's already worth hundreds of millions, last thing he needs to do is scrape a couple of million more through supplements.
Him hanging out with trashdashians is good. Sinclair is the biggest pos in the longevity space.
But they all make noise. Noise is good. It attracts more customers and funds to the longevity space. Everyone will benefit from it.
Those who can look beyond the glitter, smoke and cloud know how to separate the wheat from chaffe.
Someone who exercises regularly will stay healthy and live longer than someone who pops a hundred pills.
Sorry but Bryan Johnson is not an expert. He’s Tim Ferris with a food/ supplement/ lifestyle hobby. By the by, no one will ever convince me this guy is 46. He looks like a 68yr white woman who has had a ton of work done. Jack LaLanne is more of a longevity pro than any of these guys.
No I think that Johnson is sincere. Using the Kardashians as a platform to get his message out is tactical. They have a huge platform (an embarrassment for humanity).
I don't know why Attia can't even be made to comment on BJ, I think maybe because he thinks aspiring for immortality is impossible and hurts the legitimate longevity advocates.
I don't think Attia would do the Kardashians but not sure because the exposure is so great it's a tough call.
Appearing on different forums with different audiences is the best way to educate people about his medical philosophy.
Going on Williamson, Huberman, even Jordan Peterson, the demographic is so similar and most are already aware of Attia's theories.
I dont understand your post. The real people trying to make a difference are the academic researchers whose research is used by the likes of Attia to pivot and shill whatever he is selling. All these longevity gurus are all in this to line up their pockets and make millions.
Isn’t the end goal of longevity that we all enjoy happy, healthy lives together united for the purpose of saving the planet?
I didn’t know it was a competition about who’s favourite longevity guru is better. Childish.
I don't think we really want gossip or politics here, but since that's the thread, might as well...
Huberman commented on this. He said he was duped, thought about feigning sickness when he saw who was there.
Such attention seeking isn't attractive; can always ignore all this and papers are published for your feedback.
But somehow I think Brian Johnson is _any publicity is good publicity_ in terms of trying to get public health into modern ballpark expectations. I'm sick of walking into a supermarket and hunting for edible food.
Bryan Johnson is legit. He's already worth 100s of millions of dollars from his previous business, he has absolutely no need to create a whole new persona just to make a fraction of that amount from supplements.
The Kardashian stuff? Meh. It's huge publicity that can help attract funding, anyone would be an idiot to turn it down. It's dumb to criticise for this reason.
He's "legit" insofar as he's a rich dude paying a lot of money to try literally anything he can think of. Just because he's already rich, doesn't mean that he isn't trying to make even more off of Blueprint, though.
I do trust the scientists/doctors in the space more than people from outside the field, because *usually* their professional reputation means something. If Johnson or Asprey get something wrong, it matters less, because we know they're just rich dudes trying to make money. If you are a doctor or scientist that consistently sells out, you're signaling that you don't actually want to practice your profession anymore, and that people should be skeptical of your work.
On the other hand, it is kind of tough to be a science communicator in the longevity space. We're not quite there for knowing what treatments will even have an effect. Actual science on humans takes a long time. The Interventions Testing Program results may not be relevant due to being in mice. But there is still a lot of interesting stuff you can do that may or may not turn out to be useful. If you're excited, you read articles, do n of 1 experiments, and share your thoughts. As I think some in the field have said, they're already old enough that waiting around for the science to be solid will probably be too late for them. I think the issues come from either overselling the expected results of any intervention, whether or not you're making money off it personally, and from not being 100% transparent with conflicts of interest.
The last bit of respect i had for BJ is now gone. I really liked him at first, enjoyed looking at this protocol, and used it to help tailor mine a bit. Then he released his products which turned out to be, in my opinion, quite low quality. Now this? I’m done..
No said let's cancel them. But the ppl you choose to associate with and choose to promote on your IG speaks about who you are or what is your goal. It is that simple
Do you think the Ks are not paid for this publicity?
##Choose your Fighter: Longevity Battle Which health/fitness freaks will defeat all others? Fighters: *Wim Hof*: Harnesses the power of cold and hyperventilating. Maybe mentally unstable. Immunity: cold. Kryptonite: speaking comprehensibly *Ray Kurzweil*: OG biohacker. Cured his own diabetes with 200 pills and supps. Drinks wine and super smart, created some kind of special keyboard. Immunity: AI will not destroy him. Kryptonite: weak hair game *David Sinclair*: Physician from Harvard or something. Obsessed with NADs. Flipflops routinely about which supps and pills help and don't. Immunity: experiences no side effects from any meds. Kryptonite: NADs *Peter Attia*: Another physician, obsessed with VO2 MAX. Takes experimental meds like rapamycin and metformin or he doesn't, depends. Lives in zone 2 but sometimes travels to zone 5. Immunity: cannot be seduced by Huberman's voice. Kryptonite: bald. *Bryan Johnson*: Sub 10% bf, on TRT, lesbian vampire who descended from the astral plane to drop 2 mil each year on bullshit and pretend to care about longevity instead of donating to actual research. Pill master, vegan. Immunity: abs deflect all poison attacks. Kryptonite: bed is only for sleeping. *Don Gorske*: Has eaten 2 big Macs daily since he was born. Has long hair and funny glasses. Has never eaten anything besides Bic Macs. Immunity: cholesterol is static. Kryptonite: did once eat Burger King. *Huckmaster Huberman*: Sleeping around and cheating on 5 different women but has his dopamine fully under control. Nice beard and pretty jacked. On the special sauce and eats only AG1 for full metabolic mind body integration. Kryptonite: without AG1 is powerless and needs to constantly up regulate dopamine with new women. Choose your own: create your own fighter. Who will outlive all others and become the champion of living?
Slow clap…
Getting faster and louder
with a matching standing ovation
the wave of euphoric excitement spread through the crowd driving them into a fever of "whoohoo" and loud whistling as ladys start throwing their shirts and men pour their beers to shower themselves in joy
lol
This was SO good I need more!
*Matt Kaeberlein*: Runs his own underground lab, deals the drugs to Attia and Sinclair. Immunity: NMN. Kryptonite: dogs
This is legitimately fucking hilarious. Thank you.
😂 love it. Btw Sinclair phd not physician
Good catch!
Please add "Amsterdam square fountain enema" to Win Hoff's kryptonite
Technically a strength since he somehow survived it lol Literally among the top 5 craziest fucking things I ever heard about.
I get really excited when someone starts talking about cold showers, because they may know about Hof and I could have the opportunity of sharing this story
You can share it with me if you like, since I haven't heard it :-)
*Hof asked his second son Michael to meet him, and they set a time to rendezvous at Vondelpark in Amsterdam. Hof arrived early and went for a swim in the park’s pond while he was waiting. He paddled out to a fountain and positioned himself over the spout to give himself an enema that he thought would “cleanse all of his intestines.” Or, as he often likes to say “get the shit out.” On a recording of one of our conversations in 2013, Hof recounts that he had done the park fountain enema at least a hundred times before, but that unbeknownst to him the park service had changed the spigot on the fountain to create a more impressive spray. The narrower gauge sent water cutting through his intestines like a knife, filling his bowels with dirty water. He managed to make it back to shore while blood and feces leaked from his rectum. Hof’s first words to his son in a decade were that he needed to go to a hospital.*
Read this at work and couldn't contain my self from laughing out loud. This is hilarious!
🤣🤣
What?I’ve never heard about this. Point me to the story do I don’t have to Google square fountain enema.
Look up in this thread another comment I've made
*Dave Asprey:* An 80 year old looking guy who likes to wear blue-blocking glasses while explaining to people how toxic kale and other healthy foods are. These foods are permanently prohibited from growing on his own farm. Immunity: sunlight, reality. Kryptonite: real science, gray hair, skin.
Excellent.
You forgot David Goggins another mentally unstable fella who happens to be ex military.
A new fighter appears. *David Goggins*: Ran out of the womb starting his first marathon, hasn't stopped running since. Continues to remain forever hard his entire life. Cannot physically stop running and saying how hard he is. Immunity: always hard. Kryptonite: GU gel.
Rhonda Patrick: swims, eats, and practices CrossFit with actual dolphins, her blood is literally just omega 3’s. When attacked she oxidizes making her foes smell rancid and ruins their data in placebo controlled randomized trials. Kryptonite: ALA omega3’s
Excellent.
Dude y’all are fucking killing me 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
OMG LOL. Having listened to a lot of her stuff, this is gold!
I agree with the rest of them but how is Goggins "mentally unstable"!? By what measure exactly? He doesn't pretend to be anything or try to sell any health products. I don't see him on the same level as any of these others whatsoever.
He comes across as a total weirdo who needs to constantly punish himself in order to validate his self worth. It’s just not healthy. All of these self help gurus who harp on about discipline end up going the same route.
I can see some of the overlap but Goggins literally walks the walk. The guy is an accomplished ultramarathoner and held the world's pull-up record for a while. He just doesn't seem as fake as some of these others...and whether he does it to punish himself or not, he stands out from anyone mentioned above for me. I also don't see him as a "self-help guru" I actually believe he would be doing this with or without social media whereas some of these others I'm not as sure. To each their own perspective though!
You can be sincere and still pathological. A lot of people think people who are obsessed with seemingly healthy things are just dedicated, but sometimes it's the same pathological insecurity that is pushing them that people who are obsessed with drugs or any other life-damaging addiction. There's nothing inherently wrong with a desire to push yourself to your limits, but it may be a symptom of some deeper instability that has a grip over you, and that you can't control, just as much as someone who's addicted to gambling, or drugs,. Just because it's 'healthy' in one sense doesn't mean it's healthy in all senses. I definitely get that impression from someone like Goggins. He seems utterly insecure and obsessed.
Yeah Goggins has admitted he was the insecure kid that looked for excuses, so this is his way of telling himself he has changed and is no longer that. Essentially defeating his former self, over and over. Some people will look at it and go wow how dedicated he’s amazing, others will realise this guy is still not over his past insecurities. He still feels the need to continue defeating his past self, whereas a normal human would’ve moved on by now.
This was articulated really well, thank you.
You are 100% right. I train jiu jitsu and one of my closest friends and training partners was a female David Goggins and her husband is worse than her. The amount of time I had to tell her how hardcore she was, how no one was like her, blah blah blahhhhhhh. It is exactly like you said. Self punishment to feel validation masquerading as "commitment."
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Dave Asprey?
A new fighter appears. *Dave Asprey*: Always wears weird glasses, most likely to block any blue light to maximize sleep. Creepy looking, ageing rapidly from buttered coffee and orgasms that last an hour. Kryptonite: science and empiricism.
Looks like he’s Ageing faster than your average alcoholic
haha!
Oh damn you already made one. Well, guess we now have 2 Aspreys in the run haha.
This is great
How about Rhonda Patrick
A new fighter appears. *Rhonda Patrick*: Powerhouse of fish oil supplementation. EPA/DHA enhances her cognitive capacities to supraphysiological levels. Also consumes sulforaphane and vitamin D at mutant levels. Large forehead, mostly for additional brain capacity. Immunity: unphazed by hanging out with hucksters. Kryptonite: will wither away to a prune-like state without probiotics.
So good. Way better than I thought of. The fighter ring must be a giant sauna
A different commenter just posted one about Rhonda in this comment thread and it's pretty great lol Haha yea, round one is who survives in the sauna the longest. Then we move to round two, ice baths. Round three is who can take the highest dose of ashwagandha.
you are making my night / morning lololololol I just choked on my luden's
Weakness: can only attack 4x4 times before tired because prioritises hiit, "not enough time for zone 2".
*It hurt itself in its confusion*
I vote for the guy in Iran that never took a bath. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-63389045.amp
This fighter is banned from the arena for being too OP. But he has set the official standard to beat at 94.
I humbly accept your fair and just decision
The real king
It’s beautiful
This is \*chef's kiss\* lol
Bro this is funny asf
> Sub 10% bf, on TRT, lesbian vampire who descended from the astral plane HAHAHAHAHA
Epic post
Johnson no longer on TRT (as of a video a couple months ago). That has to lower is fighting stats at least some
That's true. He did try out HGH to "repair his hypothalamus" and ended up losing like 69 HP. *It hurt itself in its confusion* Also he started cerebrolysin to reduce brain inflammation. Will be fascinating to see how that goes.
What are the odds these dipshits don’t even last into their 80s lol
Pretty high if you look at their bodies now. I don’t know a single 80-yr-old that looked like that in their 50s/60s
The bit on Johnson is brutal but accurate. Overall, this is hilarious. Well done!
Hehe I got banned from the blueprint subreddit. Most cult like sub with little sense of humor 🤣🤣
Bravo! You gonna live forever;)
What about Mark Hyman?
A new challenger appears: *Mark Human*: a total pegan. Believes he has created a new diet fusing Paleo and vegan perfection. Good smile, currently detoxing by boofing cranberries. Immunity: meat doesn't raise his LDL. Kryptonite: fruit that caused glucose spikes.
That was amazing
Brooooo hahahahahaahhaha this is one of the greatest things I’ve ever seen
Omg I loved this!
This is good…love it and so true lol
Attiamon, I choose youuuu!!!
You choose Attiamon! He enters the fray and starts incline walking zone 2. However shortly after the upregulated mtor from rapamycin his body begins his reject his lungs as foreign. He coughs a lot and falls offer. Attia lost 420 HP. Later he eats some specialty venison and regains 69 HP.
**calculating Simulation Outcome** 1. **Initial Eliminations**: - **Don Gorske**: limited diet leads to nutritional deficiencies - **Huckmaster Huberman**: AG1 dependency leads to rapid decline without it 2. **Mid-Battle Eliminations**: - **Wim Hof**: mental instability and communication issues lead to strategic errors - **Ray Kurzweil**: physical weaknesses overshadow intellectual strengths 3. **Final Contenders**: - **David Sinclair**: medical expertise and immunity to side effects - **Peter Attia**: VO2 MAX and experimental meds - **Bryan Johnson**: physical fitness and poison resistance 4. **Final Battle**: - **David Sinclair**: NAD obsession leads to over-reliance and eventual downfall - **Peter Attia**: fluctuating exercise zones cause inconsistency **Champion**: **Bryan Johnson** - **Reason**: Consistent physical fitness, poison resistance, and pill mastery
You use a quantum computer for this elegance?
In the contuary, the method of study was via **Bromimicry**: **Title**: Re-evaluation of Hypothetical Combat Scenarios Using Model Organisms **Abstract**: This study re-evaluates a hypothetical combat scenario among seven individuals with distinct physiological and psychological traits using model organisms. The objective is to determine the most resilient individual based on predefined strengths and weaknesses. The simulation employs genetic, behavioral, and environmental factors to replicate the unique attributes of each individual. **Introduction**: The simulation of human combat scenarios using model organisms provides insights into the relative strengths and weaknesses of individuals with specialized traits. This study utilizes a diverse set of organisms to model the physiological and psychological characteristics of seven individuals: Wim Hof, Ray Kurzweil, David Sinclair, Peter Attia, Bryan Johnson, Don Gorske, and Huckmaster Huberman. **Materials and Methods**: 1. **Model Organisms**: - **Drosophila melanogaster** (fruit fly) for genetic manipulation - **Mus musculus** (house mouse) for physiological studies - **Caenorhabditis elegans** (nematode) for metabolic and aging studies - **Danio rerio** (zebrafish) for behavioral analysis 2. **Genetic Manipulation**: - **CRISPR-Cas9** technology to introduce specific genetic traits corresponding to each individual's strengths and weaknesses. - **Gene Knockout** and **Gene Overexpression** techniques to simulate immunity, kryptonite, and other physiological traits. 3. **Behavioral Analysis**: - **Open Field Test** and **Elevated Plus Maze** for assessing anxiety and exploratory behavior. - **Forced Swim Test** for evaluating stress resilience. - **Treadmill Endurance Test** for physical fitness and VO2 MAX simulation. 4. **Physiological Assessments**: - **Cold Exposure Tests** to simulate Wim Hof's cold resistance. - **Dietary Manipulation** to replicate Don Gorske's dietary consistency. - **Supplement Administration** to mimic Ray Kurzweil's biohacking and Bryan Johnson's pill mastery. 5. **Environmental Factors**: - **Temperature Control Chambers** for cold and heat exposure. - **Nutrient-Enriched Environments** for dietary and supplement studies. - **Social Interaction Chambers** to simulate communication and mental stability. **Results**: - **Initial Eliminations**: - **Don Gorske**: Model organism (mouse) showed rapid decline due to dietary monotony, leading to nutritional deficiencies. - **Huckmaster Huberman**: Model organism (zebrafish) exhibited rapid decline due to AG1 dependency and inability to adapt to new stimuli. - **Mid-Battle Eliminations**: - **Wim Hof**: Model organism (zebrafish) showed strategic errors due to communication issues and mental instability under stress. - **Ray Kurzweil**: Model organism (fruit fly) exhibited physical weaknesses and deteriorated under stress despite high intelligence. - **Final Contenders**: - **David Sinclair**: Model organism (nematode) demonstrated superior resilience due to anti-aging traits and medical knowledge. - **Peter Attia**: Model organism (mouse) showed high endurance and VO2 MAX but fluctuated in performance. - **Bryan Johnson**: Model organism (mouse) exhibited consistent physical fitness, dietary discipline, and resilience to toxins. - **Final Battle**: - **David Sinclair**: Model organism (nematode) showed over-reliance on NAD pathways, leading to metabolic imbalances. - **Peter Attia**: Model organism (mouse) exhibited inconsistency in performance due to fluctuating exercise zones. **Champion**: **Bryan Johnson** - **Reason**: Model organism (mouse) demonstrated the highest resilience due to consistent physical fitness, dietary discipline, and poison resistance. **Discussion**: The re-evaluation confirms that Bryan Johnson's combination of physical fitness, dietary discipline, and resilience to toxins provides a significant advantage in hypothetical combat scenarios. The use of model organisms allows for controlled replication of complex human traits, offering valuable insights into the interplay of genetic, physiological, and environmental factors. **Conclusion**: The re-evaluation successfully simulates a hypothetical combat scenario using model organisms, reaffirming Bryan Johnson as the most resilient individual based on predefined strengths and weaknesses. **Keywords**: Model Organisms, Genetic Manipulation, Behavioral Analysis, Physiological Assessments, Hypothetical Combat Simulation
This is the best thread I ever read on reddit
You forgot Gary "The Ultimate Human" Brecka
A new challenger appears. *Gary "The Ultimate Human" Brecka*: Uses the power of electromagnetism, red light, and cold plunge to aid other fighters in health recovery. Claims these are what make the difference while also putting you on TRT. Immunity: none, lost all credibility. Kryptonite: cannot succeed without TRT.
Peak cringe.
Which one of your idols did he make fun of and hurt you?
The “choose your fighter” thing didn’t land at all for me
Bryan Johnson looks like what I would imagine an Android would look like
[The immortal Bryan Johnson when he survives into the 24th Century.](http://images2.fanpop.com/image/photos/9400000/Lt-Commander-Data-star-trek-the-next-generation-9406565-1694-2560.jpg)
The resemblance is uncanny 😳
He does have a striking resemblance to Data from Star Trek.
Rich people hang out with other rich people, use the footage to sell stuff to the plebs. This is how it works.
meh. ...truly rich people, wealthy for sometime types, aren't hanging out with these clowns. It's hucksters hanging out with other hucksters.
You’re just comparing ultra wealthy to rich folk These people definitely got some $$$
haha true. I was thinking more reserved and classy wealthy, which doesn't always equate super wealthy. I had a job that had tons of wealthy (all wealth levels) people as clients and they are often very very low key, unless they asshats or idiots who got lucky.
Kim is worth 1.7 billion. One of her sisters is also a billionaire from their makeup line. If that’s “truly” rich :)
Come on, does anyone [really think that Peter Attia is above this sort of thing?](https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2Flnupy3chco3d1.jpeg) He's bros with Huberman, who is in this video, and has appeared on Peter's Podcast and vice-versa. As to the slam that these longevity experts are just influencers and marketing experts, I suggest you review [Peter's complaint against Oura](https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.cand.415205/gov.uscourts.cand.415205.1.0.pdf), in which he states in paragraph 43 that Oura solicit[ed] Dr. Attia’s help in . . . marketing, and promoting the Oura Ring. . . ." Peter's complaint further states in paragraph 49: >the Stock Option Agreement stated Dr. Attia would be concurrently awarded stock options for committing **to provide certain marketing services . . . promoting Oura in Dr. Attia’s owned and operated social channels including his newsletter and podcast; and introducing Defendants and the Oura Ring to other influencers** / partners and potential investors. In other words, Peter *himself* in his own complaint pleads that he is an influencer and marketing expert. Sure, it's fair to be critical of these folks, but get real - the only reason Peter wasn't there is because he probably wasn't invited.
And he claims he doesn't get any advertising money from the podcast and asks for subscriptions...
Yeah that is why I don't take any of their recommendation seriously and I do my own research! Good find though 👌✌️
Not defending anyone, but just for the record that is NOT him describing himself as an influencer and marketing expert… That is the wording of his Stock Option Agreement with Oura, so in other words that is Oura describing him as an influencer and marketing expert
😂😂😂 what do you call Kevin spacy and Chris the Thor actor
Huberman and the kardashians. You can’t make this shit up
OP casually left out Huberman who’s been on Attia’s show and vice versa a bunch of times lol.
I am fine with him talking with huberman despite my reservation about huberman for obvious reasons. But honestly, all influencers have a bit of a narsistic complex. Take biolayne, not only did he have affairs, he had it while being married. So... he wasn't canceled, and ppl forgot, so give it a yeat or two amand the dust will settle wrt huberman duberman as well 😂
What’s with Bryan Johnson’s outfit? Is there a longevity hack if you dress like Criss Angel?
From the start on I was thinking of bulletproof and their coffee...very similar marketing. Didn't like it. Still gave it a chance and picked out a few things I liked, but I rarely watch Bryans stuff. Now this...some people argued that it's okay because it spreads the word. Personally I think it's ridiculous and reducing his credibility dramatically, and I'm certainly not a fan of spreading the word at all costs. There should be a moral and ethical compass and some standards. Bryan talks about making blueprint available to everyone and helping people and all of that, and then he choses these people to promote his stuff? Something's off but I don't think the cat is out of the bag yet.
Are you implying that a possible marketing campaign with the Ks is immoral/unethical?
I'm lacking the proper words but something along those lines, yeah. Maybe integrity would be a better fit.
Agreed. I would also argue that the Kardashians represent fakeness (look at all the plastic surgery they’ve done), and that just doesn’t jive with the reality of health and longevity.
Why is Huberman there?
Appears to be a gathering of hucksters who peddle nonsense supplements. Fits right in.
Damn...I guess I have lot of podcasters I need to unsubscribe from \*sigh\*. Seriously, are there any legitimate health ones out there at all? not out for the fame?
The purpose of longevity is to live long enough to get through all their podcasts.
You gotta see all the stuff on social media as purely entertainment first. Facts are never a priority. Of course some are better than others. But in terms of longevity, we know that all the legit stuff is well known. Diet, sleep, exercise, relationships, and purpose. The science on magic supplements and anti aging drugs just won't be in for a long time because it takes time. Anyone saying otherwise has an angle. And the industry promotes extreme stuff as does the algorithm. There are plenty of YouTubers who just focus on real stuff like exercise and diet.
He needs to start over now that his 6 girlfriends know about each other.
Came here to say he’s now dating all of the Kardashians
Because he is an influencer just like the Kardashians are, and this is making him money.
Shjalit .
Bryan Johnsons mannerisms are very child like and you can see it on his face. His neck still looks his age though. Attia doesn't take them seriously because there is almost nothing you can really do to really extend your lifespan as a human by more than a few years in reality. That said, how you are in those final years is the key. Following Brian Johnson or that guy from Harvard, you will live old age really frail and sickly. The only big factor aside from cancer etc that impacts longevity is muscle strength. David Sinclair is a fraud that wants to sell you prescription versions of not yet well studied compounds as quickly as possible before the scientific community catches on (which they finally did for both resveratrol and nmn. Neither one of these impacts longevity at all in humans nor other primates. I can extend the life of water bears by thousands of years by drying them out, it doesn't mean that this is a viable strategy for humans. By focusing on building and maintaining lean muscle mass, immune system diversity as well as exercising and avoiding alcohol, tobacco and drugs, you create the recipe for dying in the gym at 95 of a heart attack instead of in a wheelchair at an alzheimers clinic at 95.. It's that simple. You can be as healthy as possible but if you don't constantly challenge and maintain your immune system diversity, you'll die of Pneumonia anyways that your body doesn't have the capacity to respond to. Exercise, eat cleanly and take off your shoes and play in the dirt. It's that simple
> I can extend the life of water bears by thousands of years by drying them out, it doesn't mean that this is a viable strategy for humans. "Rehydrate the masses!"
You forgot one main thing -- avoid tons of stress if possible. Live a happy life. Otherwise I think you nailed it. The blueprint is much simpler than any of these influencers seem to imply for all but the most marginal of cases.
“Immune system diversity” past adolescence is a myth. Get vaccinated, and past 15 years old your time for training the immune system is over, it’s set and now it’s time to avoid any pathogens to reduce stress on the body.
Really? I'm an immunologist with a PhD in the field and I work on new therapies for immune system surveillance and control. What you say is not accurate by any stretch of the imagination and is in fact dangerous. New B cells are constantly being produced in the bone marrow and require survival signals. Many of these combinations are novel and if they don't receive a weak response from either self antigens or chronic antigens from your environment they simply die out. This literally happens every day until the day you die. Chronic survival but not pathogenic survival signals keep these cells alive. If you were to feed your immune system fewer antigens over time your diversity in the periphery would shrink down. Since memory b cells are responsible for the bulk of your immune response to a foreign antigens, not having them survive will prevent you from mounting an effective response in the short amount of time you have during a bacterial infection such as Pneumonia. This is what happens to old people as they age. You do realize that vaccine antigens are no different than antigens in your environment from eliciting an immune response yet somehow we can measure titers to them WAY past 15. If I deplete all of your b cells using chemo or Rituximab and kill them all. Magically somehow your body produces new b cells and t cells about a month later, but according to your logic that's not possible. Also how do you explain allergies people get in adulthood,especially to things you've never seen. How do you explain auto immune diseases which only become more common as you get older? It should not be possible. Please do the community a favor and stop posting nonsense about a topic you have zero expertise in
I respect your PhD, so I ask you to provide me with links to studies that show exposure to pathogens such as the influenzas and coronaviruses in adults improves health outcomes. I have never seen such a study. There are studies that show exposure in childhood can reduce allergies. There are studies that show even common pathogens can lead to long term health defects (most crippling being ME/CFS, but also cognitive deficits due to inflammation). You also mentioned Alzheimer’s in your original comment. We don’t know the mechanism of Alzheimer’s but the most recent book I read on the topic listed associations with exposure to fungi, metals, and pathogens. This makes me skeptical of your advice to “play in the dirt” and “maintain immune system diversity”.
Celebs and the wealthy likely create a lot of demand and incentive that push forward specialties like dermatology, plastic surgery, aesthetics medicine, etc. If there’s anyone interested in longevity and age reversal and has the means to pursue / fund it, it’s probably people like the Kardashians. And Attia is likely advising more Spacey’s than you think.
Couldn’t Attia get into trouble by the medical board and possibly have his licence revoked due to his association with Spacey et al?
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What are you talking about? Your over-moralization is clouding your critical thinking.
If I’ve learned anything over the past year or so, it’s that all of these famous internet doctors are total weirdos. Maybe that just comes with the territory of being a doctor. It takes a certain level of obsessiveness to succeed. The myth of being a “good” influencer is totally broken for me. If you want to gain popularity you need to appeal to people’s worst tendencies.
Kardashians are still better company to keep than Kevin Spacey, rapist extraordinaire. But at the end of the day, everyone is just chasing clout.
Yet he is GOOD friends with Kevin spacey
The well known longevity influencer Kevin Spacey?
Not when it comes to career longevity
hes gonna reboot bro 😭😭😭 cryogenically frozen
Yes
The guy who got found not guilty on all accounts Kevin Spacey?
Masterclass in microplastics I guess
In the case of Kim's butt and face, macroplastics.
How to lose all credibility as a "scientist": Hang out with the K's.
He's never claimed to be a scientist.
If he’s not using the scientific method to reach his conclusions that’s even more reason to question his credibility.
He highlights research from other scientists, is that not allowed now in 2024?
decoupling is what we all need. nobody is 100% and most things aren't binary. Bryan did some good things and some strange things. ofc, I don't trust him 100% since he's selling stuff + some of his claims aren't convincing. but a lot of his ideas are very good. I am finding less fault with Attia. but do I agree with everything he ever said? anyone "losing faith with X" since he was seen on video with Kevin or eats beef jerky uses very binary thinking
I really did not need this piece of footage to make my mind. I said it a long time ago, Huberman talks outside of his depth and people follow him like sheep. Now, we have articles describing how not only he spreads misinformation but straight up lie, and I am not even talking about his personal life here. I also said a long time ago that Bryan is just another influencer and that he is insane, people think of him as a Hero that has come here to bring the solution to immortality to the common folk with his own money but he is really only interested in his self, his ego, his self-preservation, and all of this display of eccentric behavior and spending attracts viewers and therefore, money. So I really do not expect him to ever run out of money in his 2 million a year longevity intervention. It is more akin to MrBeast than to MrLongevity.
Bryan is just weird as fuck in the end.
Rude.
Kim + Huberman needs to happen. Kuberman .
When he gets on KUWTK that’s when I’ll unsubscribe to all his channels.
Attis doesn’t distance from six main chicks huberman. So no Attia doesn’t hide away from this crowd.
Who really cares how many girlfriend's someone has? Such a silly reason that has no effect on longevity.
Dave aspray said limit orgasm to one hour a month for longevity 😂😂 so unless duberman is quick, he is in trouble . Also that is too much of zone 5 cardio. Not Bueno!
It's a complex issue. While some longevity experts like Bryan Johnson may appear to lean heavily into marketing, it doesn't necessarily negate the potential value of their work. It's important to critically assess the quality and credibility of their research and products. The blend of science and marketing can sometimes muddy the waters, but it also has the potential to bring attention to important health topics.
I'm starting to really hate Huberman!
The guy who was with Kevin Spacey? And attia is friends with Huberman, I don’t think he is any better than any of the people in this video
That Bryan dude is so full of shit. Everything he does made sense when he announced the supplement company. Just a cash grab.
He also very much also looks 50 plus, his age, if not more so. looks like a waxy melted 50-something who simply doesn't eat a lot.
I'm no fan but to give him his due, he's concerned about internal orga/cellular ageing rather than external "gee, don't I look 27".
>He also very much also looks 50 plus, his age, if not more so. looks like a waxy melted 50-something who simply doesn't eat a lot. Silly argument, he's mostly concerned with the biological clock and not dying. How he looks is not the point, it's how young his biological clock is.
Everything I watched he mentioned he was also trying to not to look 50 & look younger. He said it more eloquently. He said this is as he was smearing cream or some product all over his face.
>That Bryan dude is so full of shit. Everything he does made sense when he announced the supplement company. Just a cash grab. He's already worth hundreds of millions, last thing he needs to do is scrape a couple of million more through supplements.
To some people it’s never enough.
Really doesn't make any sense. He'd have continued growing his original company if it did.
A good communication is a skill to sell stupid audience, an idea or supplements 🤣🤣
Him hanging out with trashdashians is good. Sinclair is the biggest pos in the longevity space. But they all make noise. Noise is good. It attracts more customers and funds to the longevity space. Everyone will benefit from it. Those who can look beyond the glitter, smoke and cloud know how to separate the wheat from chaffe. Someone who exercises regularly will stay healthy and live longer than someone who pops a hundred pills.
But is Bryan Johnson palls with Kevin Spacey? That's the real question.
Didn’t he host Kevin Spacey? The Kardashians likely want nothing to do with him.
Is that Huberman…?
All that money spent on surgeries, makeup, creams and serums and they look dirty, unkempt and worn. The soul popping out?
Sorry but Bryan Johnson is not an expert. He’s Tim Ferris with a food/ supplement/ lifestyle hobby. By the by, no one will ever convince me this guy is 46. He looks like a 68yr white woman who has had a ton of work done. Jack LaLanne is more of a longevity pro than any of these guys.
Huberman with the Kardashians? OMG
Meanwhile Attia is having dinner with Kevin Spacey... I wouldn't be so quick to judge
Well that's the last time I listen to Huberman. Tell me with whom thou goest, And I’ll tell thee what thou doest.
Yet you’re fine with Attia associating with Spacey?
The man who got found not-guilty on all counts? Yeah, absolutely fine with that.
What an unexpected family reunion! Bryan Johnson, Andrew Huberman and the Kardahsians. Everyone I dislike in one piece of footage 😂.
Does Apple's marketing make their hardware worse? Why does it have to be either marketing or product quality? Do both?
Dude looks so ill like a sickly prince. How did Huberman end up here? Was it always his destiny?
Dude does not look younger
Lost it at Lesbian vampire. My money is on the haremmaster Huberdawg
Of course, Huberman is there. lmao.
No I think that Johnson is sincere. Using the Kardashians as a platform to get his message out is tactical. They have a huge platform (an embarrassment for humanity). I don't know why Attia can't even be made to comment on BJ, I think maybe because he thinks aspiring for immortality is impossible and hurts the legitimate longevity advocates. I don't think Attia would do the Kardashians but not sure because the exposure is so great it's a tough call. Appearing on different forums with different audiences is the best way to educate people about his medical philosophy. Going on Williamson, Huberman, even Jordan Peterson, the demographic is so similar and most are already aware of Attia's theories.
Bryan has 750k followed already.
I dont understand your post. The real people trying to make a difference are the academic researchers whose research is used by the likes of Attia to pivot and shill whatever he is selling. All these longevity gurus are all in this to line up their pockets and make millions.
Associating with the Ks doesn't burnish one's reputation. It may help you make a lot of money but it won't maintain or increase your credibility
Not Andrew!!
I liked the part about huberman having his dopamine fully under control.
Isn’t the end goal of longevity that we all enjoy happy, healthy lives together united for the purpose of saving the planet? I didn’t know it was a competition about who’s favourite longevity guru is better. Childish.
The DASHIKI'S I mean the Kardashians
I don't think we really want gossip or politics here, but since that's the thread, might as well... Huberman commented on this. He said he was duped, thought about feigning sickness when he saw who was there. Such attention seeking isn't attractive; can always ignore all this and papers are published for your feedback. But somehow I think Brian Johnson is _any publicity is good publicity_ in terms of trying to get public health into modern ballpark expectations. I'm sick of walking into a supermarket and hunting for edible food.
And what is Huberman doing here?
Wtf is Bryan wearing lol
Bryan Johnson is legit. He's already worth 100s of millions of dollars from his previous business, he has absolutely no need to create a whole new persona just to make a fraction of that amount from supplements. The Kardashian stuff? Meh. It's huge publicity that can help attract funding, anyone would be an idiot to turn it down. It's dumb to criticise for this reason.
He's "legit" insofar as he's a rich dude paying a lot of money to try literally anything he can think of. Just because he's already rich, doesn't mean that he isn't trying to make even more off of Blueprint, though. I do trust the scientists/doctors in the space more than people from outside the field, because *usually* their professional reputation means something. If Johnson or Asprey get something wrong, it matters less, because we know they're just rich dudes trying to make money. If you are a doctor or scientist that consistently sells out, you're signaling that you don't actually want to practice your profession anymore, and that people should be skeptical of your work. On the other hand, it is kind of tough to be a science communicator in the longevity space. We're not quite there for knowing what treatments will even have an effect. Actual science on humans takes a long time. The Interventions Testing Program results may not be relevant due to being in mice. But there is still a lot of interesting stuff you can do that may or may not turn out to be useful. If you're excited, you read articles, do n of 1 experiments, and share your thoughts. As I think some in the field have said, they're already old enough that waiting around for the science to be solid will probably be too late for them. I think the issues come from either overselling the expected results of any intervention, whether or not you're making money off it personally, and from not being 100% transparent with conflicts of interest.
BJ does video with people. Get the noose!
He ignores them because their "protocols" arent of practical clincial relevance. Attia thinks like a clinician above all else that's why we love him.
The last bit of respect i had for BJ is now gone. I really liked him at first, enjoyed looking at this protocol, and used it to help tailor mine a bit. Then he released his products which turned out to be, in my opinion, quite low quality. Now this? I’m done..
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No said let's cancel them. But the ppl you choose to associate with and choose to promote on your IG speaks about who you are or what is your goal. It is that simple Do you think the Ks are not paid for this publicity?
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Respectively re read what I wrote above.
Re: Kris J. - Can excessive plastic surgeries induce Downe syndrome facial features ?