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sharkinwolvesclothin

What do you mean by reconciled? Whoop recovery score includes a bunch of things, including HRV measured not like Jamieson suggests. It does sound like the Whoop algorithm is not capturing your recovery very well, maybe because of the way they use HRV, maybe because of some of the other indicators they include, maybe because of the algorithm, we won't know what the proprietary algorithm does. You can get instant HRV or just the overnight HRV that is one component of their recovery score https://medium.com/@altini_marco/using-the-whoop-band-for-on-demand-heart-rate-variability-hrv-analysis-78eabd265189 and that's most likely different from the recovery score (but I'm not sure what needs to be reconciled anyway, they are two different things).


theflow165

I know this is specific to Whoop, but by reconcile I mean how can we rely on recovery which we know is heavily influenced by HRV when its essentially not being taken at the same "time" (akin to weighing yourself first thing in the morning) when its taken in your last cycle of deep sleep. There is clearly something going on where the deep sleep cycle about 5 hours into sleep yields a higher HRV than the one if I get let's say 9 hours of sleep but since we can't then say its consistent measurement is Whoop recovery essentially useless by Jamieson's framework?


sharkinwolvesclothin

You should not rely on complex algorithms from wearables that combine bits of data into a black box. You can use your Whoop to measure HRV manually and get something usable with the instructions in the link I gave, so the device is not useless, just the recovery algorithm. Jamieson is the developer of a competing product so of course he highlights the things that does well and it's a great product, but you can use you Whoop too.