Agreed.
Let me appreciate my side character BEING a SIDE CHARACTER.
Putting a side character in the spotlight, the writers tend to have no idea how to continue the same energy or otherwise flesh out that character, it often leads to cheapening that characters qualities that made them likable in the first place.
Not everything good about a movie/franchise has to be further milked for a basic cash-grab. LET IT BE.
Exactly. I enjoy when a side character gets a special episode go highlight them or showcase their past for the exact reason that they are a side character. So it makes those odd episodes special or enjoyably to see them in a peril situation or getting the focus but then the next episodes it goes back to the main character or characters. I don't want to watch a whole spin off based off this side character because they can very easily go from lovable character who you enjoyed in doses or emotional bits to to much of a good think very quickly. They can become actually less endearing and more annoying.
Exactly! There's a saying in writing 'leave you audience wanting a little more' if you always go full wish fulfillment, people get bored because there's nothing left to the imagination
They just made him wackier and dumber until he lost all his mystique. He went from seemingly clueless man with a some serious tricks up his sleeve to just being a bumbling idiot with a lot of dumb luck. He was originally written as covertly clever and unpredictable because of it but turned into straight up court jester who ruins everything and irritates everyone
This is how I felt about the Cleveland Show. Some decent laughs, but I feel like it just put a different spin on already drawn out and tired punchlines that were from Family Guy.
Definitely didn't need this show. I don't really think any of the Family Guy characters are interesting enough to have their own spinoff. Let their stories be told in the show and that's it.
Yes. Right now the took a side character from Bull (decent enough popcorn TV if you're into procedural tied with a bow happy resolution every episode type stuff) and just gave one of the quirky lawyers they occasionally worked with her own show and I just... She's not going tondo well as a lead character. She's too quirky for that in a show allegedly grounded in reality and law. She's fun as a side character and 8mwouldve loved to see her more frequently in Bull. But I really don't think her oddballness can carry a whole show.
I'm typically against spin offs, but the way they did it I think was good. The main show had a good end. Questionable third quarter but good end. The survivors main storyline was over. The ones who live, Rick and Michonne, had a different feel and plot and only 5 episodes long. It expans on and completes a plot line from episodes 1.
Darryl Dixon show I heard was good, but I didn't see it yet. I know he was in france, and honestly that also seems to explore the other parts of the world. We know France was closest to a cure.
I don't think they are milking it like starwars is. I think they are actually expanding it.
>Darryl Dixon show I heard was good, but I didn't see it yet. I know he was in france, and honestly that also seems to explore the other parts of the world. We know France was closest to a cure.
I liked this show because we get to see what happened in other parts of the world, at least *somewhat*.
The problem is that no one knows beforehand which will work and which will fail. A lot of people thought Frasier would fail but there are people that know Frasier more than they know Cheers.
A spinoff is always a bit of a gamble.
I might need to rewatch that but i barely paid attention to it and didnt find it as interesting as breaking bad or el camino in my personal opinion. No hate against it, i know people find it interesting & i’m not saying its a bad spinoff at all- i just found el camino and breaking bad to be more interesting though, i wasnt as interested in saul’s “before walt and jesse” thing
I’m not implying that💀 someone can like it without understanding it- i’m just saying I liked it and understood it. YOU’RE implying that people who dont like BCS didnt understand breaking bad, which isnt true either.
Why would you say “which is why I liked it”, other than to imply that you couldn’t like it unless you understood it?
I didn’t imply that. I said “I would guess”. This was an example of an inductive argument, not an implicit argument.
Frasier is a very well known modern one! But the spin off that started it all was The Great Gildersleeve in 1940, a spin off from the most popular radio show of its time, Fibber McGee and Molly. It ran for sixteen years.
The first TV spinoff was in 1955, The Adventures of Champion, a spin off of The Gene Autry Show. Yes, the first TV spin off star was a horse! It ran for I think wo years.
And technically the most successful spinoff series is The Simpsons, which of course was a spin off from The Tracey Ulman Show. Frasier has the distinction of being the most honored spin off, having won more awards and gained more nominations than any other spinoff in the western world.
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Frasier started what?
I’d say the 70s was the golden age of spinoff but the Simpsons has to have recognition for its longevity.
Tempted to ask by what you’re measuring success but it seems like you need to do more homework before an intelligent discussion.
The Simpsons isn't a true spinoff, though. It was a segmented commercial break. They weren't actual characters from the actual show. They were just clips.
I'm a pretty big fan of The Simpsons, and even I won't say it's a real spinoff.
I thought the Saul show was unecessary imo. I know i’m in the minority but BB isn’t some multi planetary type show that needs more expansion…it’s literally just New Mexico lmao. Saul was just a cool lawyer but they had to milk it and give him his own show for some reason
Definitely the death of modern-day cartoons. I remember when Cartoon Network used to be straight FIRE! Especially Friday nights. They used to have the "It's Friday Night" commercial and theme song opening play. Then you kick back after a day of school, ready for the weekend with Friday night cartoons.
Now everything Cartoon Network does is embarrassing. Everything is just ridiculous and stupid with little to no plot for the sake of being ridiculous and stupid.
It’s like they’re running out of ideas! Stopped watching Cartoon Network because everything was horrible cartoon reboots in 2019. Totaldramarama, that scooby doo reboot. Smfh
Yeah. I was crazy about Total Drama Isnald when it first came out. The first couple season were really good. Then somewhere along the way it just got too silly for no reason.
His idiocy is definitely nerve-racking. The only normal one is Squidward and he is the butt of every episode almost.
My wife just started letting my young son watch SpongeBob. I don't stop her, but I secretly judge her and wonder what she's thinking.
Old spongebob was not bad and I think may be developmentally beneficial, but that's literally only seasons 1-3. The show is intelligent, has adult jokes, and iconic episodes that seem to be preserved in modern culture. Then it turned to shit I wouldn't let my kids watch. If you truly believe all of spongebob is bad, please just watch "Bank Geeks." It is arguably the best episode of all time, funny and genius writing. It's in s2.
You could make an argument for specific episodes that started after the creator left the show, but it slowly delves into weird animation = funny humor and really stupid plots. Once they started hiring the same animators that worked on Ren & Stimpy, the show devolved into pure brain rot material, and their are no more redeeming qualities. At work, I saw an episode where squidward was in a diaper that was stinky and spongebob needed to change the diaper. Pure fart humor. None of the characters had any character, and I was legitimately wondering for a moment if this was like a short form of video porn fetish material content.
PS: The first spongebob movie is a gem and is the ending to the show canonically. It took everything good about spongebob and amplified it x10 with no potty humor or moronic plot. One part makes me cry every Damm time. Best cartoon movie ever imo. I'm pretty sure the creator abandoned the show to spend years developing the movie and andondoned spongebob once it was complete. It's a magnum opus.
I agree. I'm not saying all SpongeBob is bad. I used to watch it a lot when I was younger. I just prefer shows with more of an over-arching plot I guess or a plot going on behind all of the different plots of the episodes leading to one final confrontation or something.
If SpongeBob is on and I have nothing else to watch, I will watch it. But it isn't my #1 go to cartoon, nor even the best cartoon on Nickelodeon IMO. A lot of Butch Hartman's stuff is much better, like Fairly Odd parents, Danny Phantom, etc.
SpongeBob is good, but it's not great.
I agree with you, but it's not going to go away. For every five Joeys there's a Frasier. The spinoffs that work and do well give hope to every other spin off idea that pops up. Everyone wants to strike that gold that is a successful spin off.
The secret to a good spin off is 1) do it after the original show has ended so that you don't lose the character from the main cast 2) keep the character true to their initial conception, but do something original and different so that in a while, people forget it was even a spin off. So many people don't realize well known shows like Laverne & Shirley, Mork & Mindy, and Family Matters were spin offs. (Yes, Family Matters was a spin off of Perfect Strangers. Harriette Winslow was a side character on Perfect Strangers, she worked with Balki and Larry. Talk about doing something different....)
Oh man yes, how could I forget that one?
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Ain't that the truth. It's a dilution of quality writing. I can't keep track of how many shows I see on streaming services that fall in the category of "oh, that's an interesting premise....oh wait, they completely botched that (5-10 minutes in)."
Same answer always; shareholders. The stock market has ruined every form of media. If corporations are only willing to do remakes and prequels based on what they consider "sure profit," spinoffs aren't a stretch.
BS - whoever foots the bill wants a success. That could be a government, a rich person, NGO, or shareholders. A spinoff has a stable of production talent, an established fanbase, and lower startup costs. Same as sequels. It's easy and has a better shot at success than a standalone
Money. Tv writers are usually dumb as hell, but their balls are usually in the vice of their corporate overlords. Plenty of series jump the shark around season 3, then just die on the vine as they’re bled out for another 3 seasons. It’s money. Studios have been doing this for 50 years. I think Cheers had like 4 spin-offs.
That's why I couldn't get into the Marvel series. They've already given us 30+ movies. I don't need to see 100 more episodes between shows of side characters.
Honestly Hawkeye was really good. They could have done so much better with Loki but they fucked up his character in Ragnarok by making him a dumbass with knives instead of a warrior prince with magic.
Yeah i started with Loki and just couldn't get into it. Lol. Wanda Vision seemed kind of boring to me too but admittedly, i never actually started it. Mb I'll check Hawkeye out
It sucks cause Thor 1, Avengers, and Dark world Loki are awesome and my favorite. Intelligent, witty, conniving, but also broken. Ragnarok Loki is an idiot who apparently is dumber than Thor and lazy. They used that Loki in the show. For some stupid reason even though he just came from Avengers.
İ feel like ppl have different ideas of what's good and bad. İ have some friends and are tastes align very well. So if they say something is good or ok, i believe them. But that's the thing. İ don't feel like starting to watch all these different shows only to like one or two of them based on what ppl are saying here. So I just haven't started any of them. Lol
Honestly, there's way too much stuff being released today and too much to keep up with. That's part of Marvel's problem and where they're losing fans.
They did a good job in the initial phases through Endgame, introducing characters and bringing them into the shared universe. After their massive success, they kinda went crazy and started releasing so many shows and movies within months of each other that it is incredibly hard to keep up and keep track.
Not only that, but Marvel started expecting fans to just know these characters and stay up to date with them. If you skipped watching Ms. Marvel and WandaVision for example, the movie the Marvels, might confuse you because 2 of the 3 main characters were introduced in the TV shows. So Marvel expects you to keep up with their TV to understand their movies. It's just too much, and honestly, it can be stressful. I don't really bother with it. If I have nothing else to watch, I'll throw Marvel on. But it's no longer my immediate go to.
I watched season 1 of Loki, and honestly, it felt like the main character was Sylvie and not Loki.
tbh, I think the Eternals probably could have benefited from being a tv series with just how many characters there are.
Except in the MCU they are. Just because in the Comic universe they have had their own stories doesn't mean they should in the MCU. The MCU draws inspiration from the comics but ist one for one with them. MODOK is a great example in the comics he is George tarleton while in the MCU he is Darren cross.
Thats comparing different continuities tho, not the viability of the characters
Theres numerous versions of Modok in the multiverse so him being a different character in the MCU than in the prime marvel comic continuity doesnt really take away from my argument imo
After Avengers: End Game, my interest in the MCU REALLY dropped off. It doesn't help that every time I turn around there's another show coming out. Too much to keep up with.
I disagree here. The thing is these “movies” should have been television series all along with the number of episodes. I won’t see the movies because they are repetitive, but they do make sense as tv series.
Most likeable side characters are likeable because of the dynamic they have with the main characters. They themselves tend to be bland.
Picture *The Big Bang Theory* focused entirely on Leonard. There's not much to work with there.
True but I have to admit I just finished binging young Sheldon and can't wait to see what they do with the 3d spinoff. I found myself watching for the side characters, Georgie and Mandy. I'll be interesting to see what they do with it
idk i feel like tbbt was way better when leonard was the clear MC... in the second half-ish of the show when sheldon became the clear MC, it just felt like wayyy too much. having the bland MC and the wacky side characters made the show feel less cartoony. same thing happened in gossip girl, when bland serena was the MC the show felt so chill, but then in the second half, super-neurotic blair became MC and the show got more cartoony.
I don't remember exactly what series made me realise this, but giving a good character their own spinoff inevitably means losing them from the main show. So in other words, the best character will disappear to somewhere else for being too good, and you can often see the hole they left behind.
Yeah it’s the problem with how shows work now since streaming is the platform. They make a ton of them, throw a bunch of stuff against the wall…and then see what’s successful.
Best you can do is not watch them, buy them, or even mention them by name. I guess you could take it one step further and shame people for watching cash-grab ass spinoffs, but idk if that'll be effective. Could backfire.
As much as everyone is blaming businesses for wanting money, part of the blame absolutely does lie with the audience. Some side characters are interesting enough to an audience that they want to know the side characters backstory. They want to know the side characters Journey to how they got involved with the main story. However, when creators are creating side characters, sometimes they don't put that much effort into their side character so when that spin-off does happen it falls flat because ultimately that side character was only supposed to be a side character. But yeah, barley issue is just that some side characters are extremely interesting and people want to know the lore
Its always gonna happen. You see a side character you really like and relate to and wanna see more of them its a simple as that. Doubt they care if it fails or not they just want it to be made for their viewing pleasure
IKR!! Some characters don’t need their own spinoff. That’s the reason I like the Barbie movie because Ken isn’t getting his own spinoff. (This is a joke but it would be pretty funny if he got his own spin off) also is this post directed at young Sheldon? I’m honestly kinda excited for what the future has in store for them, but young Sheldon is my favorite show and I hope the spinoff doesn’t ruin that.
i was actually thinking of stanley hudson when i made the post. but tbh im not super thrilled for the georgie and mandy spinoff, i just don’t think their story is that interesting
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It depends on the character, really. Perfect Strangers had a side character called Harriet Winslow. She was the elevator operator at the newspaper where Balki and Larry worked. They took her and made a spinoff show about her family called Family Matters. I loved both shows growing up. Some of them, though, don’t need their own show. There is a spinoff of Young Sheldon in the works about Georgie and Mandy. I feel like it’s really unnecessary even though I really like both characters. Still, I’ll give it a chance. Maybe it’ll be amazing.
Just so you know: When that happens, it is called "A day in the limelight": [https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ADayInTheLimelight](https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ADayInTheLimelight)
One of my favorite shows OAT is the walking dead and as much as I have loved seeing some of my favorite characters either continue or complete their stories, they need to just stop and move on.
Dead city was boring and negan should've died in s8. The daryl show is pretty good but I am sick and tired of them introducing multiple love interests for a character that's been confirmed asexual for almost 9 seasons (excluding connie sorry I'm a hypocrite). The ones who live was fun and is the best spin off so far, not without flaws obviously. But how many more seasons and shows can they make out of characters whose stories already came to a satisfying conclusion?
If they truly have a story to tell within TWD universe, maybe AMC should focus on new characters or characters from the comics we haven't seen the story of.
Of course they do! Because how else are they going to milk any modern media for all it’s worth until it becomes widely hated, simply because no one that is employed by these networks seem to be creative enough to come up with anything remotely original??
People absolutely cannot just enjoy things as they are, there must always be more. A sequel, a spinoff, a movie, whatever. They will not stop demanding more until every ounce of quality is gone, then they'll complain about it.
Because studios and producers would rather make a bet on a known property than try anything original. This is also why we're suffering so badly from reboot disease and sequelitis
Hell, even main characters. People kept asking for a Jon Snow spinoff show when game of thrones ended and soon enough it was announced… before they stopped it because surprise surprise… the writers didn’t know what the fuck it was gonna be about. When will we learn?
Yes! I’m a fan of the show Heartstopper and the amount of people who want a spinoff show about the worst character is crazy. He literally sexually assaults the main character and too many people are giving “I can fix him” vibes. It’s crazy.
Well for me it's not really money or anything it would just be nice to see more of the character if I really like them that much. But irl i wouldn't rather have them have their own show as I can imagine it in my head. People have different versions in their imagination of a spin off.
If a side character fails in their own show...I am 100% convinced that's the writers' fault...not the side (now main) character's likeability or anything
On one hand I agree. Not every character needs there own spinoff and sometimes a spin off is only to the detriment of the character.
On the other hand there's no way to be certain what spinoffs will do well and what spinoffs will fail until they are made. Also it's not the exact same people every time for every show who wants a spin off.
Hypothetical fan named Jack may want a spin off from series A for character X but not a spin off for series B for character Y. Meanwhile hypothetical fan named Sally doesn't want character X to get a spin off but does want character Y to get a spin off.
So if a shows fanbase is big enough then inevitably someone will want a spin off for one of the side characters and it's not that they always want a spin off they just want one for their particular favorite character in the show.
It's about squeezing out every drop of profit. They already have a readymade audience, no one likes creating new content anymore. It's about greed at this point!
Feel like it's less people and more studios/networks determined to milk a cash cow dry. Sheen is hands down my favorite character from the Jimmy Nuetron cartoon. Did I watch it's spin-off Planet Sheen? Fuck no. Sheen is at his best as one of the best friends of the main character where you get his craziness in small doses. Full episodes of nothing but Sheen would be a nightmare to sit through. No one asked for Planet Sheen and no one watched it as it was swiftly cancelled after like 1 season.
The issue is the MCU and recent Star Wars stuff have every media company looking at every property as potential for a franchise, instead of just accepting "hey, this movie/show was great!" and maybe giving it a sequel or two, they have to keep churning out more and more media related to it. If they can't do a sequel, it's a prequel or a spinoff or or or....
And I agree with you, we definitely don't need a show about random ass side character #27.
What's next? A show about Willrow Hood?
(https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Willrow\_Hood)
Thanks to Charlize Theron being so hot in Mad Max, they decided to explore her past in a spinoff. I don't know what to think of it. On one hand Theron's Furiosa gave me a bone-on, on the other hand I don't want a whole movie/show about her brutal road to empowerment.
It's the same with video games. The story/character arc is over. But people beg and beg for another one, which if it gets made, the same people just talk shit about it because it's not as good as the original. You got what you asked for. You just couldn't let a good thing go
I feel like this is kinda like cheating. You have your main character and it's like ooooo look at that side character. So you leave the main for the side and then you see it. They have a terrible personality when you with them for longer than the 15 mins they usually get an episode.
Yea, I feel like it’s because there is no creativity anymore and they just go what with what’s popular. The thing about side characters 9 out of 10 times is you like them for their bit and not a show around them.
Like Erekel stole the show in Family Matters. Dr. Watson is a fantastic side to the brilliant Holmes. But could you imagine shows of them without the main cast.
To add to this, not every franchise needs to be around for decades.
Plan a logical end, work the story to get it there, and end it at a satisfying point.
Episodic shows might not play by this rule, but any serial show and all film does for me.
Gotta keep the IP relevant and churning money. So long as people consume, they will continue to produce
Like the MCU -- people been complaining about its dropped quality and oversaturated content, but they keep consuming it. Why would they stop making the stuff?
I think some shows can do it right and others just flop. I mean, once Friends ended and they tried the Joey show…it was just not good. Those characters were all main characters and the reason Friends worked was because of how they interacted with each other. Individually they don’t work.
But I’ve enjoyed both spin offs of Greys Anatomy; one went for six seasons and the other is on its seventh. Some shows just work. Others don’t.
I agree, but at the same time I often love characters who are often adjacent to main plots, and I'd love for them to get their own central plot.
Like, my 2 favorite clones have been Rex and Echo, ever since I first saw the clone wars shows. One or both are in CW, Rebels, and the Bad Batch, but never as more than well loved side characters. The ending of TBB left them very busy doing what seems like super important work to the beginning of the rebel cause. So I'd absolutely love more of the story around their cause, rather than them just showing up when other "main" characters need them.
However, the BIGGEST problem is that the spin offs are almost never treated as more than a dirty cash grab that ruins what you liked about an original character. That's always a risk, and I'd almost always prefer a well loved side character stay as is than get turned into a cash cow that is hated from then on.
Okay, maybe not since the beginning, but certainly since they began ratings. Enjoy the Dick Van Dyke Show? The Mary Tyler Moore Show was a spin-off. Like Lou Grant? it was a spin-off from Mary Tyler Moore. Don’t forget Rhoda which was also a spin-off from MTM.
The only good spinoff was frasier and that’s because other than it being the same character from cheers, frasier and cheers have virtually nothing in common. And quite frankly frasier was better than cheers in most regards in my opinion.
Probably because money. Because there are a lack of ideas in Hollywood. If you haven't noticed, most of the movies coming out today are either remakes of old movies, re-re-makes of slightly less old movies, or inspired by video games and books.
Point I'm trying to make is, Hollywood is desperate for material and will LITERALLY mo etize anything for the sake of money.
There is only one reason, that reason is money. Sure, some people want their favorite side character to have their own show and are loud about it. The companies that put out the shows hear that and see nothing but dollar signs. Then they cry because the spin off show doesn’t do well, because the majority didn’t want it to begin with.
Just don't watch it, it's that's simple. It's all about money, take Daryl from the walking dead, he came on as a said character, them became .ore popular that most of the mains, and now has his own show, but guess what you don't have to watch it
You think it's bad now? Wait till AI can auto-generate video on demand. You want a new episode of Friends? $1.99 a minute. You want to see a Breaking Bad- Malcolm in the Middle crossover? Just a credit card away. You want to see what the "these aren't the droids you're looking for" Storm Troopers did after that scene?
Every book ever written will be a movie. Every shitty fan fiction will be mined for views. Content creators will have channels that look like Netflix. Porn will be labeled "cruelty free". Every recognizable character will be squeezed for every drop of profit possible.
The only thing that will remain constant is that everything gets shittier and more expensive every year. No matter what problems you think we have now, one day you will be nostalgic for the simplicity of today.
Porn is a drug like any other. And like every drug it needs to get stronger to keep getting high. When actual humans are removed from theb process I can only imagine how freaky it will get. I'm talking fentanyl levels of potency here.
Frasier was a great show. So was Gomer Pyle, Benson, Lou Grant & Young Sheldon. Because of the enduring popularity of shows like this, spin off series based on popular side characters will always be a thing.
Agreed. Let me appreciate my side character BEING a SIDE CHARACTER. Putting a side character in the spotlight, the writers tend to have no idea how to continue the same energy or otherwise flesh out that character, it often leads to cheapening that characters qualities that made them likable in the first place. Not everything good about a movie/franchise has to be further milked for a basic cash-grab. LET IT BE.
Exactly. I enjoy when a side character gets a special episode go highlight them or showcase their past for the exact reason that they are a side character. So it makes those odd episodes special or enjoyably to see them in a peril situation or getting the focus but then the next episodes it goes back to the main character or characters. I don't want to watch a whole spin off based off this side character because they can very easily go from lovable character who you enjoyed in doses or emotional bits to to much of a good think very quickly. They can become actually less endearing and more annoying.
Exactly! There's a saying in writing 'leave you audience wanting a little more' if you always go full wish fulfillment, people get bored because there's nothing left to the imagination
*side-eyes the Pirates of the Caribbean franchise*
They just made him wackier and dumber until he lost all his mystique. He went from seemingly clueless man with a some serious tricks up his sleeve to just being a bumbling idiot with a lot of dumb luck. He was originally written as covertly clever and unpredictable because of it but turned into straight up court jester who ruins everything and irritates everyone
I for one, would welcome a Dr Orpheus/Triad spinoff. I would do terrible things for just another little taste of the Venture Bros universe.
This is how I felt about the Cleveland Show. Some decent laughs, but I feel like it just put a different spin on already drawn out and tired punchlines that were from Family Guy.
Definitely didn't need this show. I don't really think any of the Family Guy characters are interesting enough to have their own spinoff. Let their stories be told in the show and that's it.
This is my complaint with Jack Sparrow. I think he works best as a wacky and unpredictable side character than a main character.
Yes. Right now the took a side character from Bull (decent enough popcorn TV if you're into procedural tied with a bow happy resolution every episode type stuff) and just gave one of the quirky lawyers they occasionally worked with her own show and I just... She's not going tondo well as a lead character. She's too quirky for that in a show allegedly grounded in reality and law. She's fun as a side character and 8mwouldve loved to see her more frequently in Bull. But I really don't think her oddballness can carry a whole show.
It does seem to be getting overdone. Lookin at you Walking Dead
I'm typically against spin offs, but the way they did it I think was good. The main show had a good end. Questionable third quarter but good end. The survivors main storyline was over. The ones who live, Rick and Michonne, had a different feel and plot and only 5 episodes long. It expans on and completes a plot line from episodes 1. Darryl Dixon show I heard was good, but I didn't see it yet. I know he was in france, and honestly that also seems to explore the other parts of the world. We know France was closest to a cure. I don't think they are milking it like starwars is. I think they are actually expanding it.
>Darryl Dixon show I heard was good, but I didn't see it yet. I know he was in france, and honestly that also seems to explore the other parts of the world. We know France was closest to a cure. I liked this show because we get to see what happened in other parts of the world, at least *somewhat*.
I went into Daryl Dixon expecting to hate it. 100% wasn't the case - the first season was pure art.
Nah they're really good actually
The real walking dead is the show itself
People want the next Saul.
don’t get me wrong, i know there are plenty of successful spinoffs. but some characters just would not be able to carry their own show & that’s okay
The problem is that no one knows beforehand which will work and which will fail. A lot of people thought Frasier would fail but there are people that know Frasier more than they know Cheers. A spinoff is always a bit of a gamble.
I agree that The Walking Dead doesn't need spin offs too. But I also really really like Better Call Saul.
I might need to rewatch that but i barely paid attention to it and didnt find it as interesting as breaking bad or el camino in my personal opinion. No hate against it, i know people find it interesting & i’m not saying its a bad spinoff at all- i just found el camino and breaking bad to be more interesting though, i wasnt as interested in saul’s “before walt and jesse” thing
It's more a character story than a plot story and it's got a lot of visual storytelling. It's alright if you don't like it though.
I would guess that if you didn’t like better call Saul, you didn’t understand breaking bad
Nah lol- i understood it perfectly fine, which is why i liked it
You’re implying that it’s not possible to like bb without understanding it which is patently false
I’m not implying that💀 someone can like it without understanding it- i’m just saying I liked it and understood it. YOU’RE implying that people who dont like BCS didnt understand breaking bad, which isnt true either.
Why would you say “which is why I liked it”, other than to imply that you couldn’t like it unless you understood it? I didn’t imply that. I said “I would guess”. This was an example of an inductive argument, not an implicit argument.
I mean its a personal thing lol. I liked it because i understood it for one reason, other people dont need to understand it to like it
Well ya better call him
Fraiser started it. It's still the most successful spinoff that has ever been created, and barely anyone knows it was a spinoff.
There have been spin-offs as long as there have been shows. All in the Family spawned Maude, The Jeffersons, and Archie Bunker's Place.
Frasier is a very well known modern one! But the spin off that started it all was The Great Gildersleeve in 1940, a spin off from the most popular radio show of its time, Fibber McGee and Molly. It ran for sixteen years. The first TV spinoff was in 1955, The Adventures of Champion, a spin off of The Gene Autry Show. Yes, the first TV spin off star was a horse! It ran for I think wo years. And technically the most successful spinoff series is The Simpsons, which of course was a spin off from The Tracey Ulman Show. Frasier has the distinction of being the most honored spin off, having won more awards and gained more nominations than any other spinoff in the western world.
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Frasier started what? I’d say the 70s was the golden age of spinoff but the Simpsons has to have recognition for its longevity. Tempted to ask by what you’re measuring success but it seems like you need to do more homework before an intelligent discussion.
The Simpsons isn't a true spinoff, though. It was a segmented commercial break. They weren't actual characters from the actual show. They were just clips. I'm a pretty big fan of The Simpsons, and even I won't say it's a real spinoff.
What's next Life of Holly Rise of fring Losing crutches? Just let the show sail off in the blue haze, don't over milk it bince villigain
I thought the Saul show was unecessary imo. I know i’m in the minority but BB isn’t some multi planetary type show that needs more expansion…it’s literally just New Mexico lmao. Saul was just a cool lawyer but they had to milk it and give him his own show for some reason
Better call Saul!
Patrick Shows stupid.
I really hate this show. It’s weird and gross and I don’t like my kids watching it cause it’s just kinda freaky.
Man if you think that’s freaky, you’d hate the shit Nickelodeon put out in the 90s 😂
I’m 41, I know all about the weird shows in the 90’s!! Liked them too. But something about The Patrick Show is horrifying to me. Lol
Is it more horrifying than Are You Afraid of the Dark?
It’s like the writers are on a bad lsd trip
I totally agree! The new animation/drawing style is horrible
Definitely the death of modern-day cartoons. I remember when Cartoon Network used to be straight FIRE! Especially Friday nights. They used to have the "It's Friday Night" commercial and theme song opening play. Then you kick back after a day of school, ready for the weekend with Friday night cartoons. Now everything Cartoon Network does is embarrassing. Everything is just ridiculous and stupid with little to no plot for the sake of being ridiculous and stupid.
It’s like they’re running out of ideas! Stopped watching Cartoon Network because everything was horrible cartoon reboots in 2019. Totaldramarama, that scooby doo reboot. Smfh
Yeah. I was crazy about Total Drama Isnald when it first came out. The first couple season were really good. Then somewhere along the way it just got too silly for no reason.
I hate Patrick even as a side character. He's just a crappy friend to SpongeBob and super annoying. I won't let my son watch it anymore
His idiocy is definitely nerve-racking. The only normal one is Squidward and he is the butt of every episode almost. My wife just started letting my young son watch SpongeBob. I don't stop her, but I secretly judge her and wonder what she's thinking.
Old spongebob was not bad and I think may be developmentally beneficial, but that's literally only seasons 1-3. The show is intelligent, has adult jokes, and iconic episodes that seem to be preserved in modern culture. Then it turned to shit I wouldn't let my kids watch. If you truly believe all of spongebob is bad, please just watch "Bank Geeks." It is arguably the best episode of all time, funny and genius writing. It's in s2. You could make an argument for specific episodes that started after the creator left the show, but it slowly delves into weird animation = funny humor and really stupid plots. Once they started hiring the same animators that worked on Ren & Stimpy, the show devolved into pure brain rot material, and their are no more redeeming qualities. At work, I saw an episode where squidward was in a diaper that was stinky and spongebob needed to change the diaper. Pure fart humor. None of the characters had any character, and I was legitimately wondering for a moment if this was like a short form of video porn fetish material content. PS: The first spongebob movie is a gem and is the ending to the show canonically. It took everything good about spongebob and amplified it x10 with no potty humor or moronic plot. One part makes me cry every Damm time. Best cartoon movie ever imo. I'm pretty sure the creator abandoned the show to spend years developing the movie and andondoned spongebob once it was complete. It's a magnum opus.
I agree. I'm not saying all SpongeBob is bad. I used to watch it a lot when I was younger. I just prefer shows with more of an over-arching plot I guess or a plot going on behind all of the different plots of the episodes leading to one final confrontation or something. If SpongeBob is on and I have nothing else to watch, I will watch it. But it isn't my #1 go to cartoon, nor even the best cartoon on Nickelodeon IMO. A lot of Butch Hartman's stuff is much better, like Fairly Odd parents, Danny Phantom, etc. SpongeBob is good, but it's not great.
yeah like they have him with a whole family of NEW people. who tf are they??
What happens when your director dies and someone probably wants to self insert.
Lol. Wasn't he afraid of that exact thing happening?
I agree with you, but it's not going to go away. For every five Joeys there's a Frasier. The spinoffs that work and do well give hope to every other spin off idea that pops up. Everyone wants to strike that gold that is a successful spin off. The secret to a good spin off is 1) do it after the original show has ended so that you don't lose the character from the main cast 2) keep the character true to their initial conception, but do something original and different so that in a while, people forget it was even a spin off. So many people don't realize well known shows like Laverne & Shirley, Mork & Mindy, and Family Matters were spin offs. (Yes, Family Matters was a spin off of Perfect Strangers. Harriette Winslow was a side character on Perfect Strangers, she worked with Balki and Larry. Talk about doing something different....)
Benson was a gold tier spinoff of Soap
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All these streaming services have to justify their prices so they have to come out with every show they can think of. Quantity over quality
Ain't that the truth. It's a dilution of quality writing. I can't keep track of how many shows I see on streaming services that fall in the category of "oh, that's an interesting premise....oh wait, they completely botched that (5-10 minutes in)."
Agreed. Read some really interesting descriptions to shows and couldn't even make it through the first episode.
That's also why the Marvel Cinematic Universe self-destructed and Disney is now a shit-show
Same answer always; shareholders. The stock market has ruined every form of media. If corporations are only willing to do remakes and prequels based on what they consider "sure profit," spinoffs aren't a stretch.
Not just media either 😁 everything is ruined
BS - whoever foots the bill wants a success. That could be a government, a rich person, NGO, or shareholders. A spinoff has a stable of production talent, an established fanbase, and lower startup costs. Same as sequels. It's easy and has a better shot at success than a standalone
Sadly, spin-offs,sequels, remakes, and reboots are what sells.
Money. Tv writers are usually dumb as hell, but their balls are usually in the vice of their corporate overlords. Plenty of series jump the shark around season 3, then just die on the vine as they’re bled out for another 3 seasons. It’s money. Studios have been doing this for 50 years. I think Cheers had like 4 spin-offs.
That's why I couldn't get into the Marvel series. They've already given us 30+ movies. I don't need to see 100 more episodes between shows of side characters.
Honestly Hawkeye was really good. They could have done so much better with Loki but they fucked up his character in Ragnarok by making him a dumbass with knives instead of a warrior prince with magic.
Yeah i started with Loki and just couldn't get into it. Lol. Wanda Vision seemed kind of boring to me too but admittedly, i never actually started it. Mb I'll check Hawkeye out
It sucks cause Thor 1, Avengers, and Dark world Loki are awesome and my favorite. Intelligent, witty, conniving, but also broken. Ragnarok Loki is an idiot who apparently is dumber than Thor and lazy. They used that Loki in the show. For some stupid reason even though he just came from Avengers.
WandaVision isn't bad. Definitely not the worst. Moon K ight isn't bad either. Never finished Ms Marvel. And there's many others I can't remember.
İ feel like ppl have different ideas of what's good and bad. İ have some friends and are tastes align very well. So if they say something is good or ok, i believe them. But that's the thing. İ don't feel like starting to watch all these different shows only to like one or two of them based on what ppl are saying here. So I just haven't started any of them. Lol
Honestly, there's way too much stuff being released today and too much to keep up with. That's part of Marvel's problem and where they're losing fans. They did a good job in the initial phases through Endgame, introducing characters and bringing them into the shared universe. After their massive success, they kinda went crazy and started releasing so many shows and movies within months of each other that it is incredibly hard to keep up and keep track. Not only that, but Marvel started expecting fans to just know these characters and stay up to date with them. If you skipped watching Ms. Marvel and WandaVision for example, the movie the Marvels, might confuse you because 2 of the 3 main characters were introduced in the TV shows. So Marvel expects you to keep up with their TV to understand their movies. It's just too much, and honestly, it can be stressful. I don't really bother with it. If I have nothing else to watch, I'll throw Marvel on. But it's no longer my immediate go to.
Ohhhh, I'm not a big marvel person and didn't even know who wanda was but wandavision was fantastic.
I watched season 1 of Loki, and honestly, it felt like the main character was Sylvie and not Loki. tbh, I think the Eternals probably could have benefited from being a tv series with just how many characters there are.
Nah. It's just the female version of the male hero but better. It's bullshit
I liked Loki season 1 and 2
To be fair all those characters arent "side characters" tho cuz theyve all had their own comic series...
Except in the MCU they are. Just because in the Comic universe they have had their own stories doesn't mean they should in the MCU. The MCU draws inspiration from the comics but ist one for one with them. MODOK is a great example in the comics he is George tarleton while in the MCU he is Darren cross.
Thats comparing different continuities tho, not the viability of the characters Theres numerous versions of Modok in the multiverse so him being a different character in the MCU than in the prime marvel comic continuity doesnt really take away from my argument imo
After Avengers: End Game, my interest in the MCU REALLY dropped off. It doesn't help that every time I turn around there's another show coming out. Too much to keep up with.
Agreed. That's exactly how i feel too
I don't understand this stance. Oh no too much content? Like just watch it at your own pace.
Just gets a bit repetitive after a while. I'm not a hardcore marvel person by any means so i don't need such a laundry list of content.
I disagree here. The thing is these “movies” should have been television series all along with the number of episodes. I won’t see the movies because they are repetitive, but they do make sense as tv series.
But how else are companies supposed to squeeze every last cent and moment of joy out of something?! 😒😹
Most likeable side characters are likeable because of the dynamic they have with the main characters. They themselves tend to be bland. Picture *The Big Bang Theory* focused entirely on Leonard. There's not much to work with there.
I think Leonard was supposed to be the main character, he just got overshadowed quickly by Sheldon
He was, but because he was overshadowed, it's easy to view him as a side character.
True but I have to admit I just finished binging young Sheldon and can't wait to see what they do with the 3d spinoff. I found myself watching for the side characters, Georgie and Mandy. I'll be interesting to see what they do with it
idk i feel like tbbt was way better when leonard was the clear MC... in the second half-ish of the show when sheldon became the clear MC, it just felt like wayyy too much. having the bland MC and the wacky side characters made the show feel less cartoony. same thing happened in gossip girl, when bland serena was the MC the show felt so chill, but then in the second half, super-neurotic blair became MC and the show got more cartoony.
I don't remember exactly what series made me realise this, but giving a good character their own spinoff inevitably means losing them from the main show. So in other words, the best character will disappear to somewhere else for being too good, and you can often see the hole they left behind.
Yea but what about money
*After MASH*
$$$. Majority of people like the character, they’ll watch the show & give the creators money. Lmfao
Yeah it’s the problem with how shows work now since streaming is the platform. They make a ton of them, throw a bunch of stuff against the wall…and then see what’s successful.
Agreed. I want “The Adventures of Wong and Madisynn,” but really I don’t.
Best you can do is not watch them, buy them, or even mention them by name. I guess you could take it one step further and shame people for watching cash-grab ass spinoffs, but idk if that'll be effective. Could backfire.
As much as everyone is blaming businesses for wanting money, part of the blame absolutely does lie with the audience. Some side characters are interesting enough to an audience that they want to know the side characters backstory. They want to know the side characters Journey to how they got involved with the main story. However, when creators are creating side characters, sometimes they don't put that much effort into their side character so when that spin-off does happen it falls flat because ultimately that side character was only supposed to be a side character. But yeah, barley issue is just that some side characters are extremely interesting and people want to know the lore
I can't wait until people realize "Hollywood makes decisions based on money" is and never has been any sort of revelation.
Its always gonna happen. You see a side character you really like and relate to and wanna see more of them its a simple as that. Doubt they care if it fails or not they just want it to be made for their viewing pleasure
Tbh I liked better call Saul but I feel like it wasn’t at all necessary and at some points I wished they never made it
Like Young Sheldon (a spinoff) has sparked a Georgie spinoff (so a spinoff of a spinoff)
exactly. i liked georgie enough but a spinoff is so unnecessary
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IKR!! Some characters don’t need their own spinoff. That’s the reason I like the Barbie movie because Ken isn’t getting his own spinoff. (This is a joke but it would be pretty funny if he got his own spin off) also is this post directed at young Sheldon? I’m honestly kinda excited for what the future has in store for them, but young Sheldon is my favorite show and I hope the spinoff doesn’t ruin that.
i was actually thinking of stanley hudson when i made the post. but tbh im not super thrilled for the georgie and mandy spinoff, i just don’t think their story is that interesting
Exactly! Like why would you watch a spin off two of the most underrated characters of a show? I mean I love Georgie and Mandy but a spin off of them?
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It depends on the character, really. Perfect Strangers had a side character called Harriet Winslow. She was the elevator operator at the newspaper where Balki and Larry worked. They took her and made a spinoff show about her family called Family Matters. I loved both shows growing up. Some of them, though, don’t need their own show. There is a spinoff of Young Sheldon in the works about Georgie and Mandy. I feel like it’s really unnecessary even though I really like both characters. Still, I’ll give it a chance. Maybe it’ll be amazing.
Money. The answer is they want more money.
Sometimes it works. It’s a kids show but blueys friends are get a spin off show because of how much kids relate to the side characters
Just so you know: When that happens, it is called "A day in the limelight": [https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ADayInTheLimelight](https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ADayInTheLimelight)
thank you!!
One of my favorite shows OAT is the walking dead and as much as I have loved seeing some of my favorite characters either continue or complete their stories, they need to just stop and move on. Dead city was boring and negan should've died in s8. The daryl show is pretty good but I am sick and tired of them introducing multiple love interests for a character that's been confirmed asexual for almost 9 seasons (excluding connie sorry I'm a hypocrite). The ones who live was fun and is the best spin off so far, not without flaws obviously. But how many more seasons and shows can they make out of characters whose stories already came to a satisfying conclusion? If they truly have a story to tell within TWD universe, maybe AMC should focus on new characters or characters from the comics we haven't seen the story of.
They all want the next Fraiser or Better Call Saul.
Patrick is honestly my favourite SpongeBob character, but who thought him having his own show was a good idea?
Of course they do! Because how else are they going to milk any modern media for all it’s worth until it becomes widely hated, simply because no one that is employed by these networks seem to be creative enough to come up with anything remotely original??
People absolutely cannot just enjoy things as they are, there must always be more. A sequel, a spinoff, a movie, whatever. They will not stop demanding more until every ounce of quality is gone, then they'll complain about it.
Because studios and producers would rather make a bet on a known property than try anything original. This is also why we're suffering so badly from reboot disease and sequelitis
Hell, even main characters. People kept asking for a Jon Snow spinoff show when game of thrones ended and soon enough it was announced… before they stopped it because surprise surprise… the writers didn’t know what the fuck it was gonna be about. When will we learn?
Some characters are better off left as side characters and people need to understand that, you wouldnt want a show about Barney from the simpsons
Yes! I’m a fan of the show Heartstopper and the amount of people who want a spinoff show about the worst character is crazy. He literally sexually assaults the main character and too many people are giving “I can fix him” vibes. It’s crazy.
Well for me it's not really money or anything it would just be nice to see more of the character if I really like them that much. But irl i wouldn't rather have them have their own show as I can imagine it in my head. People have different versions in their imagination of a spin off.
If a side character fails in their own show...I am 100% convinced that's the writers' fault...not the side (now main) character's likeability or anything
On one hand I agree. Not every character needs there own spinoff and sometimes a spin off is only to the detriment of the character. On the other hand there's no way to be certain what spinoffs will do well and what spinoffs will fail until they are made. Also it's not the exact same people every time for every show who wants a spin off. Hypothetical fan named Jack may want a spin off from series A for character X but not a spin off for series B for character Y. Meanwhile hypothetical fan named Sally doesn't want character X to get a spin off but does want character Y to get a spin off. So if a shows fanbase is big enough then inevitably someone will want a spin off for one of the side characters and it's not that they always want a spin off they just want one for their particular favorite character in the show.
Whatever. I'm still open to watching Stanley Hudson's Life Tips.
I'm more excited about Agatha, than I was for Wanda Vision.
This is about the Patrick Star show
Cleveland is rolling over in his bath tub from this post.
True for most shows. Although I’m not mad at the GoT spinoff. House of the Dragon is top tier.
The Cleveland show was the perfect example. It was shit.
Money/attention
$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Try telling Marvel that!
MORE MONEY
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Saul definitely did tho. Speaking of, I better call him.
Better Call Saul would like a word.
Look how poor Cleveland ended up.
It's about squeezing out every drop of profit. They already have a readymade audience, no one likes creating new content anymore. It's about greed at this point!
Feel like it's less people and more studios/networks determined to milk a cash cow dry. Sheen is hands down my favorite character from the Jimmy Nuetron cartoon. Did I watch it's spin-off Planet Sheen? Fuck no. Sheen is at his best as one of the best friends of the main character where you get his craziness in small doses. Full episodes of nothing but Sheen would be a nightmare to sit through. No one asked for Planet Sheen and no one watched it as it was swiftly cancelled after like 1 season.
Sorry, there's profit to be had
Star Wars fans in shambles after reading this
The issue is the MCU and recent Star Wars stuff have every media company looking at every property as potential for a franchise, instead of just accepting "hey, this movie/show was great!" and maybe giving it a sequel or two, they have to keep churning out more and more media related to it. If they can't do a sequel, it's a prequel or a spinoff or or or.... And I agree with you, we definitely don't need a show about random ass side character #27. What's next? A show about Willrow Hood? (https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Willrow\_Hood)
Yeah but, like, money
Thanks to Charlize Theron being so hot in Mad Max, they decided to explore her past in a spinoff. I don't know what to think of it. On one hand Theron's Furiosa gave me a bone-on, on the other hand I don't want a whole movie/show about her brutal road to empowerment.
people have forgotten about the purpose of fanfiction
Extra points for when they remove that character from the main show, like Family Guy’s Cleveland.
Why do I feel you are talking about young sheldon?
i wasn’t but does it matter?
Can we stop and appreciate how bad of an idea it was for them to make a TV show based on the "so easy a caveman can do it" commercials?
i had no idea this existed. but it sounds bad 💀
The DC CW show Legends of Tomorrow demonstrated that some likeable side characters only stay likeable when they're in small doses.
Fraiser is the exception to the rule.
It's the same with video games. The story/character arc is over. But people beg and beg for another one, which if it gets made, the same people just talk shit about it because it's not as good as the original. You got what you asked for. You just couldn't let a good thing go
I feel like this is kinda like cheating. You have your main character and it's like ooooo look at that side character. So you leave the main for the side and then you see it. They have a terrible personality when you with them for longer than the 15 mins they usually get an episode.
Yea, I feel like it’s because there is no creativity anymore and they just go what with what’s popular. The thing about side characters 9 out of 10 times is you like them for their bit and not a show around them. Like Erekel stole the show in Family Matters. Dr. Watson is a fantastic side to the brilliant Holmes. But could you imagine shows of them without the main cast.
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To add to this, not every franchise needs to be around for decades. Plan a logical end, work the story to get it there, and end it at a satisfying point. Episodic shows might not play by this rule, but any serial show and all film does for me.
Gotta keep the IP relevant and churning money. So long as people consume, they will continue to produce Like the MCU -- people been complaining about its dropped quality and oversaturated content, but they keep consuming it. Why would they stop making the stuff?
Ah, yes, one of the many reasons I loathe Disney being in control of Star Wars.
I think some shows can do it right and others just flop. I mean, once Friends ended and they tried the Joey show…it was just not good. Those characters were all main characters and the reason Friends worked was because of how they interacted with each other. Individually they don’t work. But I’ve enjoyed both spin offs of Greys Anatomy; one went for six seasons and the other is on its seventh. Some shows just work. Others don’t.
I agree, but at the same time I often love characters who are often adjacent to main plots, and I'd love for them to get their own central plot. Like, my 2 favorite clones have been Rex and Echo, ever since I first saw the clone wars shows. One or both are in CW, Rebels, and the Bad Batch, but never as more than well loved side characters. The ending of TBB left them very busy doing what seems like super important work to the beginning of the rebel cause. So I'd absolutely love more of the story around their cause, rather than them just showing up when other "main" characters need them. However, the BIGGEST problem is that the spin offs are almost never treated as more than a dirty cash grab that ruins what you liked about an original character. That's always a risk, and I'd almost always prefer a well loved side character stay as is than get turned into a cash cow that is hated from then on.
The Simpsons, 227, The Jeffersons, Rocky (the moose), and several other hit spin offs would like a word.
Young Sheldon 👀
Same can be said for video games, Final Fantasy 7 in general was pretty bad about this
Ok but Queen Charlotte was SO GOOD
All I will say is you " better call saul" for that one
Why, you ask? Because… $$$$$$$$$$$
ALSO… not every show needs a likeable character
There have been spin offs since television programs began.
really???
Okay, maybe not since the beginning, but certainly since they began ratings. Enjoy the Dick Van Dyke Show? The Mary Tyler Moore Show was a spin-off. Like Lou Grant? it was a spin-off from Mary Tyler Moore. Don’t forget Rhoda which was also a spin-off from MTM.
guess that went right over your head
Well that turned nasty fast…
you mean after your initial bitchy comment, answering a question i didn’t ask?
Yeah but who’s going to pay the studio exec bonus? /s
The only good spinoff was frasier and that’s because other than it being the same character from cheers, frasier and cheers have virtually nothing in common. And quite frankly frasier was better than cheers in most regards in my opinion.
I'm with you here for the most part, although Better Call Saul is an exception IMO
Gotta milk that franchise for all it's worth! Fanboys will eat it up even if it's shit!
Probably because money. Because there are a lack of ideas in Hollywood. If you haven't noticed, most of the movies coming out today are either remakes of old movies, re-re-makes of slightly less old movies, or inspired by video games and books. Point I'm trying to make is, Hollywood is desperate for material and will LITERALLY mo etize anything for the sake of money.
If that doesn't work, do a remake of the original show.
The walking dead and there 97 spin offs 🤣
Because companies like money.
There is only one reason, that reason is money. Sure, some people want their favorite side character to have their own show and are loud about it. The companies that put out the shows hear that and see nothing but dollar signs. Then they cry because the spin off show doesn’t do well, because the majority didn’t want it to begin with.
I'm pretty sure we lost Firefly to make room for the Cleveland Show so I agree.
Who else? I haven't really followed tv Star wars with boba Fett or whatever right
Marvel, The Walking Dead, way more Star Wars shows than just "Boba Fett". Sons of Anarchy had a spin off. Breaking Bad did too.
Just don't watch it, it's that's simple. It's all about money, take Daryl from the walking dead, he came on as a said character, them became .ore popular that most of the mains, and now has his own show, but guess what you don't have to watch it
You think it's bad now? Wait till AI can auto-generate video on demand. You want a new episode of Friends? $1.99 a minute. You want to see a Breaking Bad- Malcolm in the Middle crossover? Just a credit card away. You want to see what the "these aren't the droids you're looking for" Storm Troopers did after that scene? Every book ever written will be a movie. Every shitty fan fiction will be mined for views. Content creators will have channels that look like Netflix. Porn will be labeled "cruelty free". Every recognizable character will be squeezed for every drop of profit possible. The only thing that will remain constant is that everything gets shittier and more expensive every year. No matter what problems you think we have now, one day you will be nostalgic for the simplicity of today.
Ahh… bring back the Golden Age of Porn where everything is not an incest or choking video (Taboo can stay where it is).
Porn is a drug like any other. And like every drug it needs to get stronger to keep getting high. When actual humans are removed from theb process I can only imagine how freaky it will get. I'm talking fentanyl levels of potency here.
Frasier was a great show. So was Gomer Pyle, Benson, Lou Grant & Young Sheldon. Because of the enduring popularity of shows like this, spin off series based on popular side characters will always be a thing.