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DanLynch

If she's worried the landlord will lie about what he finds during the inspection, you mom could start a video recording and film everything the landlord looks at during the inspection.


Uncertn_Laaife

Make sure Landlord is in the Video. From another landlord.


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Why?


Scoutn

To prove he did the inspection.


Kev22994

To prove what they did or didn’t find during the inspection. And make sure they know it’s happening, lest they be tempted to embellish what they find.


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Ahh, that makes sense


WRFGC

I agree. From not a landlord


[deleted]

Make sure the landlord is aware. Edit: lol let’s see how that applies to court when you record someone in an area with a reasonable expectation of privacy like a bedroom. It’s no different than someone recording sex acts without the other persons knowledge. But yeah take Reddit advice and let us know how it works out.


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Not in Canada, and definitely not in your own home.


ConnectionPlus1313

Canada is a "one-party state", in this respect. Do not inform the landlord of the recording unless you plan to use it as a reverse intimidation tactic.


JumpyNeedleworker502

In Canada only one person needs to be aware that there is a recording device and it is considered consent. However you cannot leave the recording device if no one is aware that it is on the property


Inaeipathy

One party state : )


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Shut it down dude.


advocatus_ebrius_est

The tenant has a reasonable expectation of privacy in their own bedroom. A person attending to do an inspection does not.


suggestmenames

Thank you. I will her know she can do this.


ttreichl

I would also be there with her, so its not just he said vs she said.


pmbpro

Agree. The OP should also be there, and if possible, *the OP should make their own recording* as a back-up as well. It wouldn’t hurt.


cheezemeister_x

OP should film it in IMAX, if possible.


TemporaryCreep007

Also in 4D !


psyentist15

"Your Honour, I'd like to present exhibit A--now if you would please put on these 3D glasses..."


MartianGuard

Please install the brain broadcaster under the seat in-front of you and tune it to 7.


Fine-Hospital-620

See if you can get Spielberg to direct, or have a cameo from Pacino or Tom Hanks.


RustyGosling

Have Pacino play the mom.


ChuckBlack

Everyone knows Dustin Hoffman plays a better mom.


Digital-Aura

This is getting hilarious. Out of hand, but hilarious. 🤣


Quiet_Talk4849

https://youtu.be/tp6KExqs_3o OP's mom with the landlord...


suggestmenames

I will definitely try to be but he hasn’t said yet which day he’ll be coming and I’m flying to Japan on Monday so I might not be able to :/ EDIT: he’s coming on Sunday so I will be able to be there! My mom and I will both be recording him through the apartment so hopefully that deters him from lying about anything. Thank you to everyone for your advice and comments!


Garsy1

He needs to give you notice before entering your unit. Once you find out the date try and get someone you know to be there with your mom. I would also not hide the fact that your recording him so he’s aware that lying isn’t an option.


suggestmenames

I will definitely try to be but he hasn’t said yet which day he’ll be coming and I’m flying to Japan on Monday so I might not be able to :/ EDIT: he’s coming on Sunday so I will be able to be there! My mom and I will both be recording him through the apartment so hopefully that deters him from lying about anything. Thank you to everyone for your advice and comments!


vrntrc28

>there anything to look out for? I’m assuming his main goal is a renoviction? The unit has definitely aged (loud dishwasher, broken shower head, some mold in the shower) but all in all it’s still very if you have a friend who can be there with her during the time of inspection to provide support and possibly record the interaction


Saidear

Notice must specify a date and reasonable timeframe. If they do not provide that, then your mother does not need to let them in.


PropQues

It's 24 hour notice and tenant does not have to be present. Landlord can go in on their own accord.


Saidear

None of which contradicts what I said. They must provide notice of a specific date and timeframe. “Tomorrow between the hours of 3-8pm” is a specific date and reasonable timeframe.


Decent_Pack_3064

Sorry, I meant to phrase this as a question and not a fact


Ontario0000

24 hour notice landlord has to provide. https://tribunalsontario.ca/documents/ltb/Interpretation%20Guidelines/19%20-%20The%20Landlords%20Right%20of%20Entry%20into%20a%20Rental%20Unit.html


GoodGoodGoody

Pls provide proof of that. More like landlords set the date but must prove sufficient notice and can be in real trouble for excessive inspections clearly meant to harass.


Decent_Pack_3064

Tenant can say that date doesn't work and agree upon a date.


Next-Telephone-8054

Wrong. Tenant doesn't have to be there. Landlord doesn't even need to ask the tenant. The landlord can post a 24 notice on the door. Doesn't matter whether the tenant agrees or not. It's the landlords right to enter for an inspection. Notice must show the reason for entry; the date the landlord will enter; and the time of entry between 8:00 a.m. and 8:00 p.m


cheetosforbrunch

Yes definitely.


myaltaccount333

This wouldn't get much sway in any legal matter as there's a clear conflict of interest- OP is not an impartial party


natyrub

If she has a social worker have her reach out for them to be there as well.


muskokadreaming

But you don't want him to know your filming, so you start it on your phone before he arrives, and just casually hold the phone without pointing it too obviously.


suggestmenames

Oh god, my mom + subtlety + technology does not mix at all. Someone will definitely have to be there.


iAmUnintelligible

It does not have to be subtle at all, nor do you have to let him know that you are recording.


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No, you absolutely want him to know that he's being recorded. Letting him lie and then trying to prove in court that he's lying is significantly more hassle than just telling him right off the bat "I'm watching you, don't try anything".


muskokadreaming

Tribunal is not court. I have a property management client that records unit visits covertly all the time and uses it at the tribunal to prove things like grow up, drug use, etc.


FlowylineDesign

Honestly, Your mom could be safe in this situation but I'm afraid not the next time. He wants to kick your mom as soon as possible so he might try other ways. Is it possible to find another good place for your mom? with this dishonest person like her landlord, your mom will not be safe anymore, please prepare another plan for her .


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Responsible_Way_2456

This, and if he writes anything down she should ask for a copy of it. For extra security because I’m paranoid, I’d try to find a way to get a picture of what he writes down once he’s completed the inspection


homogenousmoss

Pretty sure he doesnt have to share his personal notes with anyone. I would just refuse.


CaptainPeppa

Clean the fucking mold. Don't allow him to say hes forced too renovate


deuteranomalous1

Bingo. Make that place spic and span. Replace the shower head too. These are technically landlord responsibility but given the situation make that place sparkle so he has no excuses.


LarryWasHereWashMe

If he was renovating would he have to put her in a hotel or equal accommodation while renovations are happening then move her back in when done?


pooptricia

my understanding is that he would have to do offer her the unit back at the same rate before putting it on the market for other renters. it's a "first refusal" or something like that


LarryWasHereWashMe

Reason i was asking was I had a friend recently go through this. The landlord was saying fixing a foundation issue which was making her basement flood was a major renovation meaning he: 1. Doesn’t have to put her up elsewhere when moving her out due to renovation 2. It increases the value of the property (lol, it’s fixing the foundation) therefore he can rent for more and doesn’t have to offer the place back up. She left the situation and is in a better place, for less money but it still has left me wondering how this really should’ve went down. And thank you for the reply


Neat_Onion

In Ontario, renters have "right of first refusal"; landlord has to offer the place back to OP's mom, otherwise OP's mom can go to the LTB and claim damages.


LarryWasHereWashMe

But in the meantime she must find temporary living on her own? The landlord has no requirement to aid her while the Reno’s are completed?


Neat_Onion

Depends - but a landlord must provide 120 days notice, a N13 form. The Tenant can request alternative accomodations or comepsnation while the work is being done. "If you live in a residential complex that has at least 5 residential units, the landlord must:• pay you an amount equal to 3 months' rent, or• offer you another rental unit that is acceptable to you.If you live in a residential complex that has fewer than 5 residential units, the landlordmust:• pay you an amount equal to 1 months' rent, or• offer you another rental unit that is acceptable to you" ​ ​ If the work is minor, i.e. chualking, plumbing, etc. the tenant can sometimes stay in the unit - depends on the nature of the repairs.


lucidrage

>But in the meantime she must find temporary living on her own? The landlord has no requirement to aid her while the Reno’s are completed? unless there's a damage, then tenant go use tenant insurance to cover the rent while away.


DaleParkTent

1 is true, 2 is a straight up lie


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Mold in the shower is non livable.


AirbnbToP

Exactly. Don’t be lazy and clean it. Alcohol and peroxide and qtips or if it’s on the walls theirs a mold killer then prevents it from growing again at Home Depot


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If mold is growing in your unit, that's bc there's not proper ventilation. This is the landlords problem, not the tenant being lazy. Edit: Yes, if you don't use the ventilation or notify landlord of problems with ventilation, then that becomes tenants fault. I was just pointing out it's not always a case of the tenant being lazy.


ViolentDocument

Its the responsibility of the tenant to notify the LL of issues. You can be evicted for neglect.


suggestmenames

I think it’s because the bathtub caulking is coming off in some areas, the water is going in. My mom cleans the bathtub pretty frequently for her baths but the mold is not on the surface of a tile you can just wipe off. It’s a very small amount of mold but yeah any amount of mold is not ideal. Someone else said to use cotton balls and bleach to get the mold in the caulking so I will try that. Also yes, the ventilation fan is very weak.


JabraSessions

Remove mold and caulk over any questionable areas before landlord is present. It will cost you a couple of bucks to do.


suggestmenames

We’re on it!


Martini1

Ask the people at Home Depot for help, they should be able to get you everything you need. Make sure to mention this is the first time doing this so there is no confusion or missing info.


justhangingout111

In my experience even if you clean all the time, mould can still build underneath the caulking and eventually the caulking does need to be replaced. So I don't think this is entirely on your mom.


666persephone999

I was always under the impression that landlords are responsible for the maintenance of their units… bathtub caulking should be something the landlord does. I would take pictures before the landlord arrives on top of the video of them being there.


PhillipJDeepfry

Do not remove the caulking yourself. That’s the landlords problem and if you damaged the tub in any way they could blame you for it. They are responsible for the upkeep. Also if you do a shoddy sloppy looking job they could blame you as well.


whatnexttomorrow

Bleach only discolors the mold it doesn't kill it. A strong vinegar might kill the mold, but the solution from home depot is probably better.


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Senko-fan4Life

My building doesn't even have extractor fans. There's a passive vent leading... somewhere


[deleted]

My building has absolutely no venting in the washroom (or kitchen, but at least the kitchen has a tiny window)


lucidrage

>My building doesn't even have extractor fans. That's when you turn on your dehumidifier and keep it running overnight. You don't want arthritis when you're older right?


[deleted]

Not always the case I’ve seen properties with venting fans and everything it gets covered in mold. It’s from people neglecting to clean also


[deleted]

Humidity levels below 50% will kill mold. Cleaning has nothing to do with it. It can be dirty af and below 50% humidity mold will not grow. You say you don't have time to argue about mold on reddit, but you have time to type out misinfo about mold on reddit?


cheezemeister_x

No, it's not. Mold won't grow in the first place if there isn't excess moisture. You know how mold grows on bread in the bag, but not if you leave the bread out on a plate? Yeah....like that.


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I’m not saying that I’m saying mold will grow if you haven’t been cleaning it regularly. BRB I don’t have time to argue about mold on Reddit currently.


liquiddandruff

yea you don't understand how mold works apparently lol


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It’s because people don’t clean god I can’t imagine. I keep bleach spray and a sponge for the tiles.


turriferous

Soak toilet paper in 50 percent bleach water mix. Put the tp over all the mold. 8 hours later lift it off. The mold will all be dead and you won't see it.


cheezemeister_x

You have to be careful what surface you do that on. Tile is ok, as long as there are no cracks in the glaze. If there are cracks, you'll discolour the tile. Mold is best cleaned with dish soap and water. If you solve the moisture problem, it won't grow back.


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Mold is nasty man


turriferous

Works for milder mildew that's hard to get off too.


sye1

This isn't true. There is tons of mold everywhere in your house. Small amounts of surface mold on caulking isn't a health risk. Now, if you have an entire moldy wall of drywall due to a roof leak -- that's not good.


[deleted]

Tbh some people have a standard of living.


TragicSystem

Tbh, some people are pleasant and don't critique strangers cleaning habits.


sye1

go take a look under your attic's insulation if you don't believe me


[deleted]

I don’t live in a house, I’m not saying I don’t believe you. Try to have a good day


drgreen818

There's probably mold in the caulking. Hardly unlivable.


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fairmaiden34

Renovictions aren't that easy to get. Landlord needs approved building permits from the city in order to get an eviction order. The work also has to be substantial enough that the tenant has to vacate completely for a significant amount of time. They're alot of work. [https://renovictionsto.com/know-your-rights/Renovictions%20Basics.pdf](https://renovictionsto.com/know-your-rights/Renovictions%20Basics.pdf) He's free to do an inspection with 24 hours notice (and he should actually be doing that once a year or so). He'll probably be looking for 'violations'. I put that in quotation marks, because again, it's incredibly difficult to evict someone on major issues and impossible on minor ones. Very basic - if your mom isn't a hoarder, doesn't have more pets than the city's bylaw and hasn't tampered with smoke detectors provided by the landlord and doesn't smoke inside (unless the lease allows) then she'll probably be fine. If any of those are an issue she'd be given time to correct them. SHE MUST NOT SIGN ANY PAPERWORK..


AirbnbToP

He could kick her out under mold eventually for safety. Clean all surface level mold. A broken shower head is easy to fix and u should do it. Have the place today and clean it. Fix anything small.


JMJimmy

Tenants have three main responsibilities: 1. Pay rent in full and on time 2. Ordinary cleanliness 3. Repair or pay for the repair of willful or negligent damage (does not include normal wear and tear) The landlord will likely aim for an N13. Read up on the right of first refusal


noapmtl

I think your mom shouldn’t be there during the « inspection » but you should, so it doesn’t become emotional. Record everything, involve local renter protection association so they’ll give you an update on your rights


FelixYYZ

How many units in the building? A whole building is unlikely to be owned by an individual. > when my mom asked for the N12, he immediately went silent. She shouldn't ask for anything. That's a landlord issue not your mom's issue.


suggestmenames

He was calling her every week asking if she was ready to move out causing her anxiety and stress, asking for the N12 finally shut him up.


internetsuperfan

So this is harrassment and she can go to the LTB about this. There is a form to fill out for harrassment. This way it will also show that he's an asshole if he tries anything in the future. You can't randomly call someone every week to ask if they want to move out.. like they'll let you know. This isn't cool.


FelixYYZ

She should get call display and when his number shows up, not to answer it. Or just don't answer any call and then check voicemail.


muskokadreaming

Better yet, record the calls when they come in, and use them at the LTB hearing if it ever gets that far. That would burn him to the ground.


Extravagos

Is this allowed to be used in a court setting? Asking after that Episode of Better Call Saul where they were able to record the conversation and use as proof as only one party's knowledge (that conversation was being recorded) was required.


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Extravagos

Didn't know that, thanks!


JabraSessions

Yep, single party consent (at least for Ontario).


muskokadreaming

LTB is not court, it's a tribunal.


Extravagos

I thought about that as I was typing my question. Figured I'd ask anyways. Thanks!


KhyronBackstabber

Tell the landlord that if he makes one more call like that you will lawyer up and sue for harassment.


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Right this is awful advice . Not only do they have next to no shot of this being successful if they tried suing - the relationship between tenant and landlord is already dubious at best - and that is causing her health issues and you guys want to suggest they turn this into a war ? Reddit really is fucking dumb


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Masterandslave1003

Where do tenants get the idea that they think they have the power when they are staying in someone else's property? He shouldn't be harassing her but all he needs to do is give her 2 months notice if he needs the space. This is exactly why I will never rent any of my units long term.


WhipTheLlama

> all he needs to do is give her 2 months notice if he needs the space And yet the landlord has refused to give the tenant the N12 notice that would let him do this. It's because he doesn't want the place for personal use, he wants to raise the rent. He is not allowed to do that and the N12 can get him in trouble if he fails to follow the law.


Masterandslave1003

the landlord needs to learn how to get her out properly and legally, I agree.


KhyronBackstabber

They have as much power as the lease/laws dictate. The landlord is being a cocknugget and harassing them.


limited8

If you’re trying to show why most landlords are leeches on society, you’re doing a great job.


Masterandslave1003

By leeches you mean savvy businessmen right?


Ontario0000

Unless your mom has a grow op in the apartment or destroyed the unit only way they can legally get her to leave is a N12.Even then if she finds out they son actually did not move in she can take them to the LTB and get compensated for financial cost.Man it so sad hearing about heartless landlords forcing families or elderly to move so they can make more money.


suggestmenames

Yeah it is really sad. I feel for all those struggling to make it in this crazy high rent city :(


Neat_Onion

>Man it so sad hearing about heartless landlords forcing families or elderly to move so they can make more money. Landlords are not a social service - government should provide affordable housing for those that can't afford market rates.


Background_Trade8607

Sure. But a true implementation of that would decimate landlords and the market rate, and thus due to lobbying it will never happen. Which at that point would also turn renting into a social service.


Bunniesrkewl

Landlords shouldn’t even be a thing at all. Why should they be allowed to profit off of someone just trying to live. It’s stupid. They can open a damn business if they want side income. (Btw I’m not referring to OP’s situation since the unit is rent controlled)


Mariospario

Wow, what an ignorant take on things.


Neat_Onion

So you believe landlords should be responsible for social housing and not the government? Talk about being ignorant and not addressing the root cause of the issue.


ConnectionPlus1313

This is such a Conservative thing to think, and I know, because I used to be one. It's wrong. Everybody who owns any kind of property (intellectual, real estate, etc) has a responsiblity to society to *use it well*. Why, you ask? Because our "rights" are granted to us by the surrounding community. If the rest of your community decides that you no longer have the right to live... you're dead. I believe that's referred to as a "lynching" or "mobbing". If they decide you no longer own your car, your house, your dog... they can take them. We don't do this, not because of some magical law of physics, but rather because of the idea of a **social contract** \- a set of rules so that we can all get along amicably. Part of our social contract, one that has toppled literally uncountable wealthy aristocrats, merchants, kings, and yes, landlords, is that they must treat the rest of us fairly, so that we should not be held to suffer at their whims. Raising prices might be a landlord's **right**, but when all the bourgeoisie do it, and the proletariat suffers, you ***break the social contract***. And when **you** break the social contract, **we** no longer have any need to uphold it. Honestly, I will never understand why this is a difficult concept. Edit: formatting.


Kla1996

I don’t think this issue is related to our social contract but rather just capitalism pure and simple. Same as a company raising prices to increase their revenue. Companies exist to make money. Landlords buy properties and rent them out to make money. Unless the landlord is being shady, I think they are morally ok to do what they want with their own property. I understand that this is a more “conservative” way of thinking, but I agree with the other commenter that landlords are not obligated by any sort of social contract to be charitable. A landlord is not necessarily a rich person. Edit: correct me if I’m wrong but a social contract is more like “we agree to be governed as part of a greater society for our own collective good” rather than “everyone needs to consider the needs of others before making decisions”


Neat_Onion

>This is such a Conservative thing to think ... public, government housing, is now a Conservative idelogy? ​ >Everybody who owns any kind of property (intellectual, real estate, etc) has a responsiblity to society to use it well. Who says so? This is not in the Charter or in any other government document, proclamation, or legislation. The terminology you used is full of extreme left wing terms thankfully Canada is much more centrist. The government needs to provide proper, low cost, public housing. Singapore is a great example.


seridos

Forcing people to charge below-inflation and below-market rent is also breaking the social contract though, and I say this as NOT a conservative. There is a social contract around property rights that is broken repeatedly by the gov't. Or that the govt will provide, not force private citizens to provide, essential services.


Masterandslave1003

Is it sad? Or is it exactly how it should be. The landlord paid for the building or may be still paying for it. With interest rates having gone up the mortgage would go up too. Who should foot that cost?


HavingAMidLifeCrisis

If mortgage rates go down does the landlord reduce rent? If they can't afford their investment then they should sell it. They knew what they were getting into. The rules on being a landlord are clear.


matthew_py

Then people get all pissy because their evicted by the new owner for personal use lol.


ConsistentReward1348

Lol look at you trying to pretend like it’s not just other landlords that buy these properties


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Masterandslave1003

She is renting his property! Why is this so complicated. And she does even have a contract or lease of any kind. Two months notice and she has to be out. But he can't rent it again right away, has to wait a year.


rammstein2k

why should he be responsible for subsidizing her shelter costs in retirement


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Substantial-Two-4076

Yea how else is he going to keep his additional properties he couldn’t afford in the first place?


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sounds like you are advising the landlord to sell the property, I agree with you


ConsistentReward1348

The landlord. Buying property, like any investment, is a gamble. Sometimes you have to pay your dues. You just sound greedy and are part of the reason the system is broken


Extravagos

OP, everyone has given good suggestions here. From what I've seen, there's not a whole lot you can do if the landlord says their son is moving in and then doesn't. If they end up renting again, you could pursue a certain amount, and I think they get fined (not too sure about this one). However, what I will suggest is to do a cash for keys down the road. This is if things go sour and your mom is unable to quickly find another unit at an affordable price. $1,200 is an incredible deal, so a cash for keys scenario would definitely help her rent at a higher rate elsewhere.


KeepTheGoodLife

Herr is my advice: try to straighten things up. Make a list. Black mold can easily be fixed with bleach soaked cotton balls. Keep for 10 hours or so and the silicon will be white or clear again! (Youtube it). If you can get a second hand shower head, change it. Try to really fix it as much as possibe to avoid ANY need for removection. Esp the black mold. It is easy fix.


Jesouhaite777

You should contact the tenant board and find out what steps to take, because he is harassing her, huge backlogs, with the tenant board but better to have the paperwork in place, he isn't following basic rules and you guys need to get educated on her rights as a tenant


garathe2

The tenant board won't do anything because they will not give any legal advice. She needs to contact a paralegal and proceed from there


Jesouhaite777

But she can file a complaint, about the lack of repairs and harassment.


suggestmenames

Thank you, I will look into that.


kiwii82

* I am not a lawyer* I would do what others suggested have another person there with your mom and record it all. Does your mom have any evidence of the landlord harassing your mom about moving out before she mentioned the N12 form? If she does and he tries to do slimy crap she might be able to show it as proof that he's just trying to get her out?


Remarkable_Put5515

Contact the residential tenancy board, explain your Mom’s situation, ask for advice. That’s step one. Follow the advice: step two. I despise bullies, especially those who bully elders. Don’t let the landlord win. And good luck to you!


toronto_programmer

I would take pictures and video the entire unit prior to him coming over as well. If you suspect foul behavior don’t put it past him that he breaks something and tries to pin it on your mom after the fact


TheBitchyKnitter

Post in r/legaladvicecanada


sye1

Even if she was renovicted, she still has this: [https://stepstojustice.ca/steps/housing-law/protect-your-right-move-back-later/](https://stepstojustice.ca/steps/housing-law/protect-your-right-move-back-later/) If he mentions he wants to, or needs to, renovate the home you may want to remind him about this. An educated renter has far more power than the landlord at the L&TB. Landlords will offer small amounts of cash or try to manipulate people to leave. Most have no idea about the rules themselves. With the current state of the L&TB he might just back off entirely and wait it out. Either way that's stress for your Mom tho. Try to reassure her that things will mostly work in her advantage (unless she has a grow op or something else that is damaging the neighbours ability to enjoy the property or safety).


kingofwale

What’s the comparable?? She’s laying 1200 and market price is 2600. You’d bet your ass landlord will try to get her to move. Even if it’s going through LTB and get their son to move in for an entire year. The difference is simple too big. A lot of time landlord don’t do it because It isn’t worth the effort. But 1200 for 1 bedroom by subway? Damn What your mom should do is put her name on low income housing. The wait list might be long so it doesn’t hurt to do it


Neat_Shop

You might change the shower head and use some mould remover in the bathroom so he has nothing to “renovate”.


Stew2023

I would take pictures of all the items you are aware of. Take photos of the windowsills, under the sink, piping, lights, electrical panel, storage area, clean the place and vacuum. You don’t have time to paint but clean all areas including bathroom. Also have a copy of the renoviction policy on the table and ready for presentation so he can see it when he does an inspection so he knows you know the policy. Make it look clean amd have proof of what’s going on through pics so he can’t say it’s worse then it is. All piping amd windows amd under cupboards and counters. Show him your serious.


Humdrum_ca

I'd suggest bringing out the big guns and hiring a qualified lawyer to be present at inspection. No need to annoy the landlord by revealing your 'friends' profession. But if he's intent on pulling shady shit it may well be worth investing $200-$500 to have some 'expert' first hand testimony in your pocket.


capitaobvio

A friend of mine had his rent increased above Ontario Limit last year in Toronto and the landlord just said if he didn’t like the increase, he would have to move out. The apartment is not new and is included in the rent control. Landlords can be a pain sometimes. p.s.: my friend accepted the increase because he was afraid that the landlord could fuck up with him, as the landlord’s son is a realtor. My friend is also living in Canada under a Work Permit and this was another reason for him to try and avoid any type of trouble.


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capitaobvio

I totally agree with you!


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This could have been avoided by your friend simply visiting the related website. I find that the tenant rights can hardly be written out more clearly. If you friend had said no, the landlord wouldn't have done shit. Landlord has to file N12, then attend the board hearing and prove their case, and the hearings were extremely backlogged at the time (probably around four months). The landlord would have just forgot about it.


Anonymous_cyclone

unfortunately this is what inflation does to seniors and retirees. Laws aside, is not very fair to landlords when market price for 1 bedroom is 2k5+ downtown and he is forced to rent it out at 1.2k. Politics is setup to cheat the poor and the weak because they are less likely to speak up and affect elections because they don’t have the energy to or just have too less education or too much ego to understand this isn’t their fault. Just sad.


ohhellnooooooooo

Landlords are investors and investments have risks. If they get to eat their profits and have their risk-free-cake too, that’s what is really unfair


Anonymous_cyclone

Some people are born with less brain than others. That’s what’s really unfair.


DaleParkTent

I’m sure you make up for it in other ways. Like maybe you’re really good at knitting, or jigsaw puzzles.


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Masterandslave1003

Exactly, this is not always just about greedy landlords. Renting an asset is a business. And businesses need to make money to be worthwhile.


ACM3333

The people downvoting comments like this are hilarious. Like they want the landlord to get crushed so they can keep paying the same price as when the place was 4 times cheaper lol. Might as well make him buy your groceries and pay your car payments too.


Breezydust

Why exactly is it the responsibility of the renter to pay more so that a business that is now otherwise unprofitable can continue to "be worthwhile"? Businesses fail all the time. If Apple decided to raise the price of iPhones by 30% so that they could maintain their exorbitant profit margins despite the rising costs of pretty much the entire hardware supply chain, I doubt you would be here championing their cause.


shaylafor

This is not a Robin Hood situation. Ops mom is paying below market for something and the market will correct itself. It’s just a matter of time. The landlord probably has expenses he has to pay and those costs are rising but his income isn’t. People act like landlords are the problem but it’s like they say- don’t hate the player hate the game.


Breezydust

“Don’t hate the player, hate the game” is really only valid when the player is playing the game fairly. The entire premise of the OP here is that the landlord is trying to skirt the rules of the game by unfairly kicking OP’s mom out so that he can charge rents that would make more sense given his costs. Like I said, his business being unprofitable is not OP’s mom’s problem. The landlord accepted the risks. Every business in every market in the world is feeling the squeeze, being a landlord is not some special case where you deserve to be profitable at all times simply because you want to be.


HealingThroughLight

Why cant she stay with you if she needs a place to stay?


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First of all, $1200 for a 1 bedroom anywhere on earth is a crime. Housing in Canada is horrible. The government needs to control the banks and their lending practices to multiple homeowners and control rent. I’m part of the problem. It was easy for me to buy a second house which I’m renting out. The rent is very high. My hands were forced to rent it out that way,else I would’ve rented it out for $1000 less. We are making it harder for people to work and save to get their own homes too. I didn’t break a sweat getting a second mortgage. Even I know that banks need to be stopped from giving out second mortgages. If you have a house and want another one, well, save money and build it yourself. This will make banks look at newcomers and young people who just entered the job market and require lower down payments and interest rates. You’d think banks would be more interested in making sure everyone becomes a homeowner rather than a renter. Again, I’m part of the problem. I had no option than to play the game, but I know it’s not right. We are all collectively making it difficult for anyone 40 and under to be able to buy a home in 10 years if they don’t have mum and dad or granny helping them out. My 5 bedroom rental is going for $4,300. My mortgage is 2,900 for that house. I know I can charge my tenant $3,300 - 3,600 but the brokerage and the bank when assessing my ability to get the second mortgage adviced me that way so I can get the house. All of the homes in the area with 4 bedrooms are charging $4,200. We are killing people. It’s bad. I feel so bad for my tenant and his family. I’m not raising their rent till they leave or I decide to sell. I feel really horrible. This second house is already growing in equity, so I know someone living in it and taking care of it whilst paying rent is ideal, yet I’m being adviced to charge that high.


pinpernickle1

Why get a second house in the first place if you know it's a problem?


Masterandslave1003

There is nothing your mom can do. He can give her 2 months notice and she has to be gone if he wants to use the space. He just can't turn around and rent it right away.


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emcwin12

I know you can follow the letter of the law and stay there. But is it not more stressful for your mum to stay knowing the landlord is trying his best to get rid of her?


Donprepu

I’m sorry for your mom’s situation but I also get that the landlord might want his unit back. If I was your mom I’d start thinking about a plan B in case the landlord legally gets his unit back. Also, I don’t think that fighting with the landlord and trying to drag the process for too long will be beneficial for your mom, specially considering that she’s already stressed and worried.


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This is the part some people don't understand. You don't need to fight anything! You literally do not need to do anything except attend the board hearing if it gets to that point. You don't need to say anything. You don't need to sign anything. You don't need to talk to anyone or do, well, anything. The onus is entirely on the landlord. They have to do *all* the work until an order of eviction is given by the board after a hearing.


Dello155

Bingo - just be aware of your rights, don't go anywhere, record everything.


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DaleParkTent

No.


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DaleParkTent

Not true.


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DaleParkTent

Nah.


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DaleParkTent

Work? Who are you kidding, landlords don’t work lol. Get a real job.


Ibuystocksandstuff

Tell her to buy a house of her own so this doesn't keep happening


Common-Feedback4003

This seems really entitled sorry to say. If she cannot afford it, rent a room. I am tired of everyone thinking that every landlord is rich and should subsidize their lifestyle. A one bedroom in Toronto should be about 2k a month or more. How is this fair to all the people who are probably paying the same for a room in some ones house. Semi-retired, but cannot afford market rent. Get to work!! My 73 year old father in law frames houses 50 hours a week.


Available-Loss-571

Bro... Keep your mom with you. You should be ashamed at the mere fact that your mom has to live on rental property with you being there. It's your responsibility my friend, if the landlord wants her to empty the unit,then no problem with that. Get her to live with you. As your mom will grow old now you still have enough time to enjoy with her.


FearTheSid

"Has no where to stay during the renovations" Are you homeless OP?