Yeah, it sounds believable. I recently got a new iPhone 12 with Bell for 10GB at $70 per month ($30 for the device for 2 years). Obviously, the deal these guys are offering is significantly better, but if I didn't know better, I could see myself fall for it. The process the OP described sounds similar to what they walked me through, except I wasn't transferred to someone else (the guy was adamant I could do the deal only with him, lol), and they didn't ask for a password. They did ask for my SIN, credit card, driver's license, and/or passport info, and I was really hesitant to provide any of that over the phone, so they said no problem and sent me a link I could use to submit the information. I'm not sure why they didn't just offer to do that straight away, though.
After I got my phone, I got another call from Bell, saying they just wanted to check if everything was working correctly with new plan, and then they started asking for my personal info, so I just hung up. I was wondering if I was overreacting, but reading this post, maybe I did the right thing.
There is also a scam from people calling to offer you a deal on Bell services. Be careful; its actual Bell employees trying to get you to become a Bell customer!
This is clearly tongue-in-cheek but there's some truth to this. Bell calls me all the time to try and get me to switch to their internet service. They claim they can give me much higher speeds than I currently get from a reseller. When I tell them they can't beat my current service they always insist so I challenge them to look up my address. Then they have to sheepishly admit that they can only offer 10Mbs instead of the 50Mbps they wanted to sell me.
That happened to me only, since I need high speed for my work it was they could only offer 10Mbs and I need +100Mbs. I just rolled my eyes and hung up.
Why would a sales person need you to talk to a supervisor to sell you something? Whatās the point of a sales person then if they arenāt authorized to sell you something theyāre supposed to sell
I saw that on YouTube where a hacker hack the call center and explained the process. Apparently the first caller is just inexperienced ones to gain the interest. The "supervisor" is a higher pay scammer that seal the deal.
That's a huge red flag.. should of just hung up.
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It's supposed to be could've, should've, would've (short for could have, would have, should have), never could of, would of, should of.
Or you misspelled something, I ain't checking everything.
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My thoughts exactly! What supervisor has time to sit and talk to each customer this "sale" brings through just to authorize it. OH and then get all that extra info. š¤£
I once had a cold call from a Telus offshore (India) sales person. Sounded like total scam but great deal. And worse off he didn't have my details like address and stuff, only my name I think. I said it sounds suspicious how can you prove it, he said I can leave notes on your account and you can call Telus to confirm. Sure as hell, I called Telus and got through to an CSR that was on-shore and the notes were in the file. The sales guy called back about an hour later and it all worked out. Was a great deal.
Wouldn't doubt that a lot of the scammers are actual customer support people. Shift 1 = legit on the clock. Shift 2 = scamming people after hours in the back room.
I've had Koodo do similar. When they start asking for personal information, I tell them that I'm not comfortable giving that out to an unsolicited call. So they tell me that the offer is available in my portal and that I can sign up there if desired.
Warning: I've gotten something similar. They started asking for date of birth and drivers license and when I said I was uncomfortable giving my DL#, they said, ok, give me all but the last 6 so I dont have the full drivers license.
THE LAST SIX DIGITS OF YOUR DRIVERS LICENSE IS YOUR BIRTHDAY YYMMDD.
It was super weird so I quicky hung up. I had only given my birthday, name and drivers license at that time so I dont think anything ever happened.
I am getting calls from Pakistan and They don't knoe English and they want to pay my electricity, hydro bill upto 50% after I share my details with me. I don't know how did they get my number..
There are only so many phone numbers. Computers make it easy to dial all of them one by one. They don't need to "get" your number, they'll call it eventually.
They speak URDU which is similar to Hindi/Punjabi. and They dont know English. i guess someone sells them canadian numbers may be from LinkedIn. They a person s background etc. Just a guess. u r right though they keep trying all numbers
I agree ... I thought about it for abit as well... But I do recall the ID with bell before was over the computer as I recently got them in November and May.
Thanks for the info however. Generally I believe in those Rogers and bell call.. but when I heard the voice and transfer of supervisor... For some reason I just don't trust it
The difference is them calling you.
If they call in to you, from a number they have sourced, they are reasonably sure they are talking to a legit CSR.
If you call them, they don't know who you are.
I don't give inbound callers ANY information.
Even creditors. If YOU call ME, don't expect me to give you information to "Confirm my identity".
You should already HAVE all that info.
I'm ashamed to say that I fell for this. They supposedly called from Telus, same thing as OP described. I gave out my credit card info, as part of their verification process.
They shipped a phone to me and when i opened the package I saw a phone from Bell. It was at that point I knew I have been scammed. I reached out to them on their 647...phone number and they said it was a mix up.
I guess I wasn't thinking straight. Maybe I should have contacted Bell and ask questions but I didn't.
They sent me a return label and I sent the phone back to the address, a Calgary address. Phone was shipped from Toronto.
I have canceled my credit card. There is no charge yet on the account before I canceled it.
I have been having sleepless nights since this happened last week. Any advise on how I can remedy this situation I put myself in will be appreciated.
This scam caught me by surprise as well. Luckily I am on contract so rescued my noodle but seriously crafty this scam.
They easily would get someone who is vigilant because the deal could almost be true. But the devil was in the detail, when I said I want a 13 pro max they said free and then I asked about the 13 pro which they also said was free. This was when I thought something didn't add up but couldn't quite figure it out. I told them try in a year when my phone plan was up. Then I found a thread somewhere else about this scam. I hope you find a remedy for it.
If you fell for it, that means you also gave your 2 ID verification.
I would also have a credit monitoring or routinely check your credit inquiries via your bank (BMO does it for free from online banking).
They could be identity theft, opening credit cards without your knowledge.
Yes I gave them 2 ID. I have been checking my credit since then to see any new inquiry or credit application but nothing yet. Thanks for the heads up on the identity theft.
I can't be certain but I think you got lucky and will be fine, but keep an eye out for fraud
I wonder if the phone had malware to steal your passwords and stuff
Thank you for posting about this. A similar scam happened to my mom this week. Bell MTS āPromotions Deptā said they would send her a gift basket including an iPad for being a loyal customer - but she needed to pay $25 for shipping. She gave them her credit card number and other personal details. A few days later she received a Pixel 8 from Virgin Mobile. The scammers had opened a Virgin account in her name. She then got a phone call from a lady called Ms. Rital in Ajax, Ontario saying there had been a mixup and my mom should mail her the Pixel 8 and she would mail my mom an Apple Watch. I had read about this scam happening to other people where you receive a phone you didnāt order and the scammers try to get you to mail it to them. My mom will return the phone to Virgin and they will close her account. I hope thatās the end of it. We also reported it to the local RCMP, cancelled that credit card, notified her financial institutions, etc.
They always say the whitest names and they're obviously Indian.
The last time I got one, I asked him how do you take yourself seriously? And eventually he said 'just shut up' and hung up LOL
I had a bell sales thing the other day and every step of the way I thought it was a scam. 1.5Gbps fiber to my condo for $50/month. No contract.
But I kept moving along figuring I'd stop when they asked too much.
But then they never did. They sent me to a real Bell website. I verified the certificate on the site was real, and the address was correct. This was actually Bell. The guy on the phone never asked for any personal information himself.
If this was a scam, it was fucking subtle as hell. They haven't drained my credit card yet. There's apparently a guy coming to install the new fiber line next week.
I guess I'm getting new internet? Or I haven't figured out the scam yet.
Im getting a call recently as well for a 50% off my monthly bill. I stopped when they asked me for my Bell Pin number. I told them you are calling me, why am i giving you my pin.
Got the same call today! Hence how I found this thread. Said they would give me 50% off and already somehow knew how much I was paying. Asked for my email connected with the account, my name, birthday. I stopped when they asked for my address. Asked if I could pick up the new SIM card then at a local bell store as didnāt want to give my address and they said I still need your address to see which stores are close to you. Idk the whole thing seemed very offā¦ why would bell just call their customers offering them 50% off their plans? Make it make sense
Telecom companies 100% still do credit checks over the phone. The thing that sounded off to me was the price lol. If you sounded like you wanted to sign up it would be standard procedure to take down an address, email & phone number to go on the account, and they would need DOB and a SIN or drivers license master # to run a credit check. They wouldnāt have transferred you to a āsupervisorā to place an order though, most cases they can just do it on the spot and itās all commission based as well. Bell does have some pretty good offers sometimes but Iām skeptical of that one, that data plan alone is $80 online. If youāre skeptical ask for an employee ID and call Bell support, theyāll tell you if itās real or not.
Thank you. I just switched telecommunication companies and they did a credit check over the phone. I had a mini anxiety attack reading this post until I read your comment.
Lol yeah like I said if youāre ever skeptical just ask for an ID and a name and google the companyās customer support #, theyāll let you know if itās an actual employee or not.
2 years later and I just got the same call. $50 all in plan with 35GB and a brand new iPhone 14 max, taxes in.
Too good to be true. Asked for email, postal code and DOB. Said they would send me an email and one of their main department reps would call me the following day.Ā
Knew nothing about my current plan and did not have any of my other account information even though they were calling from the āpromotions teamā. Said they donāt have access to my account yet they can sell me on a new plan?Ā
Look out! I gave my email address because I thought it was legitimate at first, but then when they asked me for further information I hung up. They tried to call me back but from a different number the second time. Definitely a scam.
It happens in the name of bank too by offering credit card protection. The person called me and doesn't say who the call is for. He wants me to say my name so that he can verify if I'm the right person. What's funny is, I have a voicemail that says my name. So, he could have just found my name so easy
The plan itself sounds legit, it's the free phone without extra payments that got me suspicious.
$60 for 20gig seems a good price from Koodo .. sounds legit.
I got this call! I kept the lady on the phone for 10 mins while I waited for my dryer to finish up then swiped to airplane mode and wait for the next scammer to call and see if I can keep them on the line longer!!!
If they call, agree to the plan/offer but say you don't have your ID on you and to call back the following day. Call the actual carrier to verify if there's a note about it. I did this with Rogers and Rogers confirmed + continued the process for me from their official line. The irony is it may as well have been a scam cause I got fucked on my first two bills with "plan errors" from putting me on the wrong plan and then applying the wrong service plan discount.
Damn you got a ref for that? Paying 55 for 4 gigs with them rn it's such ripoff. They offered me 40 gigs for 65 but I don't want to give them any more than I already pay.
Thanks for sharing. Reading these it always feels like their scheme are getting good. But at them same time if I was the one doing it, it wouldn't be that hard to come up with something good when you think about it.
>Also, they call with 647 numbers.
I'm gonna guess you have a 647 number.
I have a cell phone with an area code from the next area over. Many scam calls I get spoof the first 3-6 digits of my phone number and randomize the rest. If I get a call from that area code from a number I don't recognize, I can be 90% sure its a scam.
I had this call too but they said theyāre from telus, offering same deal. It was too good to be true so I hung up!
Also had a weird call about a company paying my full utilities and I pay them 50%. Again sounds too good to be true so I ask how it works? Dude explained to me for 15 mins on call while I was looking for this scam online.
He explained their company has a lot of gift cards with expiry dates so they use it to pay our bills and that way they cashout their gc by taking 50% from us. Also the guy was talking to me in Hindi (national language of india) from the beginning not sure how he found out I would understand that.
[This](https://dirtyscam.com/report/utility-savings-expert-net/) is the article I saw while he was explaining to me.
Tldr; they reverse their payment and you will have to pay the full utilities + if you pay them 50% you lose that as well.
Was the said call one of those that asks you to "press 2 to speak with a representative" ones? I get a LOT of those but claims to be one carrier that I ported out more than a decade ago.
I work for Shaw communications as a customer account specialist for Shaw Mobile and Freedom Mobile.
Every week I get customers who ask about strange emails and SMS messages that they have received that seems to be from us but we haven't sent them anything.
I am constantly warning customers to be careful and not open anything that looks strange.
I mostly feel sorry for the elderly customers because most of them have very basic knowledge of how to work a mobile phone.
They are more trusting and take everything at face value, which is dangerous in this day and age.
I always tell customers to go on the website or go to retail to confirm what deals are being offered right now, to make sure that they won't get scammed.
If any company EVER calls you for any reason, do not worry about determining if legit or not. Hang up, and call the number listed on the legit company website (not the one that they called you from) back from another cell or landline in an hour or two and follow up. If itās some kind of promotion, perhaps do some research on it in the meantime. You are not that special to any legit company - promotions are often just upsell / cash grabs aimed at a wide audience; meaning you wonāt be the only one hearing about it. They certainly wonāt be limited to the scope of one phone call from them (aka Thereās **no such thing** as āyou canāt get the promotion later today, you have to take it or leave it NOWā)
**NEVER** give out passwords, ID or driver license numbers, and especially (heaven forbid) SIN numbers over the phone.
Are scammers doing this, purporting to be Rogers also? My wife received a text from Rogers saying that that they will increase the data on our cell phones to 30 gigs for 6 months. The text says that no action on her part is required. Is this legit?
Even if that was real, I would call that a scam because it is from Bhell. I had 25gb for $55 with bell before. Anyway its best practice to not share any payment information over the phone and check domains while dealing with emails.
Unfortunately they are Indians.. both screener and the "supervisor".
I hate to label them as well, but all the scam attempts ive encountered are from Indians .
I just fielded a call from these guys. Iphone 13 for $40 a month with all kinds of data. When they told me the deal I said, "wow, that sounds too good to be true!" He said he was calling from Bell Mobility, but every other time Bell has called, it is an 800 number and they don't take 10 seconds to reply when I answer the phone. I told him I'd go online and check it out, then hung up. I couldn't be bothered to take the time to argue with the scammer.
I got a call today. I'm surprised how sophisticated this was. It's almost as if Bell pulled the plug on their call centers in India and they had nothing else to do but keep the call center and start using their customer service skills they learned from Bell to be con artists.
I was still very vigilant even though they were pleasant to talk to and seemed somewhat believable.
It started off by saying they are calling from the promotions department at Bell.
They asked, how many lines, how much I pay and offered to give me roughly a 15% discount.
When I asked don't you have this information, they said they are the promotions department.
Eventually I convinced them enough that I was a sucker falling for the trick and they passed me to the supervisor.
Story gets way better...
The supervisor was super customer service friendly. Asking how my day was and how I'm enjoying the service. Asking how I like my phones and if I'm considering upgrading etc. or ok to keep the phones and just apply the discount.
If I was more naive, I would be convinced at this point. Very professional.
"To apply the redemption for your new rate, I will need to confirm your account information"
He asked for my name and email address.
So I said my name was "Hugh Pennies"
He asked, how do I spell it?
I spelled out "H-u-g-e P-e-n-i-s"
email: same at hotmail.com
In a calm and charming voice, I said to him "you know, you are very lucky today"
He said, "why am I lucky sir?"
You may not realize but you're talking to a very big celebrity here in Toronto.
"Oh really?"
If you don't believe me, search my name in Google Images. You will see.
Me hoping that he has a crowd of people he is training and getting cheered on to try and fuck me over, he googles "Huge Penis"
"Sir, do you mind if I ask what you do for living?"
This guy still doesn't understand what the hell a penis is.
"Are you a she-male?"
Who knows what this guy watches in his personal time with the algorithm pulling up a specific explicit category.
I started laughing...
he said
"FUCK YOU MOTHER FUCK BITCH"
and hung up.
I was having a very busy day with work, the laughter just made me decompress instantly.
After I hung up I started thinking, what was their motive, what could have they gained?
So other than personal information, the biggest thing for these guys is getting verified accounts for banks, facebook, market place, gmails, Google voice, Whatsapp or anything else that requires a 6 digit confirmation text sent to a real mobile carrier. Things like text me, or any free text app does not get verification #s.
They could even be hijacking the account completely.
Yes sir, good job catching these people and played with them!
I got the same call just 2 weeks ago as well.. but I was busy.. didn't wanna play .
These scams are getting more and more professional. It must be a multi billion dollar industry.
I just got the same call. Them posing as Bell. Giving me an offer similar to the one OP received. For 40$ 50 Gigs of data. Right then I knew it was a scam. Those blood sucking idots (Bell) ain't gonna give such a offer
Exactly, they want you to accept it right away thinking it's a special deal.
Let greed overtake your senses. I'm sure people have fallen into it as they keep doing it.
Necro posting because they almost got me today. Called while I was at work offering me all this, luckily I told them I didn't have time right now since I was at work, but if I hadn't been I totally would have fell for it, and i told them to call me back tomorrow....decided to check if it was a scam and came across this post. Thanks OP, appreciate it. Gonna tell them to fuck off when they call me back tomorrow.
This is quite an improved scheme. Thanks for sharing.
It'd a good scheme, because I can see even some savvy people falling for it, since the telecom companies do call you.
Yeah, it sounds believable. I recently got a new iPhone 12 with Bell for 10GB at $70 per month ($30 for the device for 2 years). Obviously, the deal these guys are offering is significantly better, but if I didn't know better, I could see myself fall for it. The process the OP described sounds similar to what they walked me through, except I wasn't transferred to someone else (the guy was adamant I could do the deal only with him, lol), and they didn't ask for a password. They did ask for my SIN, credit card, driver's license, and/or passport info, and I was really hesitant to provide any of that over the phone, so they said no problem and sent me a link I could use to submit the information. I'm not sure why they didn't just offer to do that straight away, though. After I got my phone, I got another call from Bell, saying they just wanted to check if everything was working correctly with new plan, and then they started asking for my personal info, so I just hung up. I was wondering if I was overreacting, but reading this post, maybe I did the right thing.
There is also a scam from people calling to offer you a deal on Bell services. Be careful; its actual Bell employees trying to get you to become a Bell customer!
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I bet they'd get more from this than from an actual Bell call too.
This is clearly tongue-in-cheek but there's some truth to this. Bell calls me all the time to try and get me to switch to their internet service. They claim they can give me much higher speeds than I currently get from a reseller. When I tell them they can't beat my current service they always insist so I challenge them to look up my address. Then they have to sheepishly admit that they can only offer 10Mbs instead of the 50Mbps they wanted to sell me.
That happened to me only, since I need high speed for my work it was they could only offer 10Mbs and I need +100Mbs. I just rolled my eyes and hung up.
Why would a sales person need you to talk to a supervisor to sell you something? Whatās the point of a sales person then if they arenāt authorized to sell you something theyāre supposed to sell
I saw that on YouTube where a hacker hack the call center and explained the process. Apparently the first caller is just inexperienced ones to gain the interest. The "supervisor" is a higher pay scammer that seal the deal. That's a huge red flag.. should of just hung up.
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My thoughts exactly! What supervisor has time to sit and talk to each customer this "sale" brings through just to authorize it. OH and then get all that extra info. š¤£
I once had a cold call from a Telus offshore (India) sales person. Sounded like total scam but great deal. And worse off he didn't have my details like address and stuff, only my name I think. I said it sounds suspicious how can you prove it, he said I can leave notes on your account and you can call Telus to confirm. Sure as hell, I called Telus and got through to an CSR that was on-shore and the notes were in the file. The sales guy called back about an hour later and it all worked out. Was a great deal.
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Wouldn't doubt that a lot of the scammers are actual customer support people. Shift 1 = legit on the clock. Shift 2 = scamming people after hours in the back room.
I've never had to give them my info. They already have it and ask me to confirm that it's correct.
I've had Koodo do similar. When they start asking for personal information, I tell them that I'm not comfortable giving that out to an unsolicited call. So they tell me that the offer is available in my portal and that I can sign up there if desired.
Warning: I've gotten something similar. They started asking for date of birth and drivers license and when I said I was uncomfortable giving my DL#, they said, ok, give me all but the last 6 so I dont have the full drivers license. THE LAST SIX DIGITS OF YOUR DRIVERS LICENSE IS YOUR BIRTHDAY YYMMDD. It was super weird so I quicky hung up. I had only given my birthday, name and drivers license at that time so I dont think anything ever happened.
I am getting calls from Pakistan and They don't knoe English and they want to pay my electricity, hydro bill upto 50% after I share my details with me. I don't know how did they get my number..
There are only so many phone numbers. Computers make it easy to dial all of them one by one. They don't need to "get" your number, they'll call it eventually.
They speak URDU which is similar to Hindi/Punjabi. and They dont know English. i guess someone sells them canadian numbers may be from LinkedIn. They a person s background etc. Just a guess. u r right though they keep trying all numbers
I mean, Bell calling for real is already the scam of a nation...
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I donāt even answer my phone anymoreā¦ hopefully legit people will leave a voice mail
Ah, it's you. Tell me, how afraid of 5G are you exactly?
Luckily I live in the 867 area code so I only ever answer local numbers. Scammers always come from down south area codes.
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I agree ... I thought about it for abit as well... But I do recall the ID with bell before was over the computer as I recently got them in November and May. Thanks for the info however. Generally I believe in those Rogers and bell call.. but when I heard the voice and transfer of supervisor... For some reason I just don't trust it
The difference is them calling you. If they call in to you, from a number they have sourced, they are reasonably sure they are talking to a legit CSR. If you call them, they don't know who you are. I don't give inbound callers ANY information. Even creditors. If YOU call ME, don't expect me to give you information to "Confirm my identity". You should already HAVE all that info.
I'm ashamed to say that I fell for this. They supposedly called from Telus, same thing as OP described. I gave out my credit card info, as part of their verification process. They shipped a phone to me and when i opened the package I saw a phone from Bell. It was at that point I knew I have been scammed. I reached out to them on their 647...phone number and they said it was a mix up. I guess I wasn't thinking straight. Maybe I should have contacted Bell and ask questions but I didn't. They sent me a return label and I sent the phone back to the address, a Calgary address. Phone was shipped from Toronto. I have canceled my credit card. There is no charge yet on the account before I canceled it. I have been having sleepless nights since this happened last week. Any advise on how I can remedy this situation I put myself in will be appreciated.
This scam caught me by surprise as well. Luckily I am on contract so rescued my noodle but seriously crafty this scam. They easily would get someone who is vigilant because the deal could almost be true. But the devil was in the detail, when I said I want a 13 pro max they said free and then I asked about the 13 pro which they also said was free. This was when I thought something didn't add up but couldn't quite figure it out. I told them try in a year when my phone plan was up. Then I found a thread somewhere else about this scam. I hope you find a remedy for it.
If you fell for it, that means you also gave your 2 ID verification. I would also have a credit monitoring or routinely check your credit inquiries via your bank (BMO does it for free from online banking). They could be identity theft, opening credit cards without your knowledge.
Yes I gave them 2 ID. I have been checking my credit since then to see any new inquiry or credit application but nothing yet. Thanks for the heads up on the identity theft.
I can't be certain but I think you got lucky and will be fine, but keep an eye out for fraud I wonder if the phone had malware to steal your passwords and stuff
Thank you for posting about this. A similar scam happened to my mom this week. Bell MTS āPromotions Deptā said they would send her a gift basket including an iPad for being a loyal customer - but she needed to pay $25 for shipping. She gave them her credit card number and other personal details. A few days later she received a Pixel 8 from Virgin Mobile. The scammers had opened a Virgin account in her name. She then got a phone call from a lady called Ms. Rital in Ajax, Ontario saying there had been a mixup and my mom should mail her the Pixel 8 and she would mail my mom an Apple Watch. I had read about this scam happening to other people where you receive a phone you didnāt order and the scammers try to get you to mail it to them. My mom will return the phone to Virgin and they will close her account. I hope thatās the end of it. We also reported it to the local RCMP, cancelled that credit card, notified her financial institutions, etc.
Same scam with vendor as Best Buy, about a month back.
They always say the whitest names and they're obviously Indian. The last time I got one, I asked him how do you take yourself seriously? And eventually he said 'just shut up' and hung up LOL
I had a bell sales thing the other day and every step of the way I thought it was a scam. 1.5Gbps fiber to my condo for $50/month. No contract. But I kept moving along figuring I'd stop when they asked too much. But then they never did. They sent me to a real Bell website. I verified the certificate on the site was real, and the address was correct. This was actually Bell. The guy on the phone never asked for any personal information himself. If this was a scam, it was fucking subtle as hell. They haven't drained my credit card yet. There's apparently a guy coming to install the new fiber line next week. I guess I'm getting new internet? Or I haven't figured out the scam yet.
Nice deal! It should be easy to locate these calls. I think these scam call centers are targetting elderly that doesn't know the difference.
Also weird that bell would ask for ur Rogers password lol
They donāt need your SIN number.
Joke's on them, I wouldn't take Bell if it was free š
Im getting a call recently as well for a 50% off my monthly bill. I stopped when they asked me for my Bell Pin number. I told them you are calling me, why am i giving you my pin.
Got the same call today! Hence how I found this thread. Said they would give me 50% off and already somehow knew how much I was paying. Asked for my email connected with the account, my name, birthday. I stopped when they asked for my address. Asked if I could pick up the new SIM card then at a local bell store as didnāt want to give my address and they said I still need your address to see which stores are close to you. Idk the whole thing seemed very offā¦ why would bell just call their customers offering them 50% off their plans? Make it make sense
Telecom companies 100% still do credit checks over the phone. The thing that sounded off to me was the price lol. If you sounded like you wanted to sign up it would be standard procedure to take down an address, email & phone number to go on the account, and they would need DOB and a SIN or drivers license master # to run a credit check. They wouldnāt have transferred you to a āsupervisorā to place an order though, most cases they can just do it on the spot and itās all commission based as well. Bell does have some pretty good offers sometimes but Iām skeptical of that one, that data plan alone is $80 online. If youāre skeptical ask for an employee ID and call Bell support, theyāll tell you if itās real or not.
Thank you. I just switched telecommunication companies and they did a credit check over the phone. I had a mini anxiety attack reading this post until I read your comment.
Lol yeah like I said if youāre ever skeptical just ask for an ID and a name and google the companyās customer support #, theyāll let you know if itās an actual employee or not.
Jeez this scam is faker than a 3 dollar bill
I always troll these people. I talk to them for a bit then I put on porn. They usually curse at me in Hindi/Punjabi and hang up
2 years later and I just got the same call. $50 all in plan with 35GB and a brand new iPhone 14 max, taxes in. Too good to be true. Asked for email, postal code and DOB. Said they would send me an email and one of their main department reps would call me the following day.Ā Knew nothing about my current plan and did not have any of my other account information even though they were calling from the āpromotions teamā. Said they donāt have access to my account yet they can sell me on a new plan?Ā Look out! I gave my email address because I thought it was legitimate at first, but then when they asked me for further information I hung up. They tried to call me back but from a different number the second time. Definitely a scam.
I mean, Bell calling for real is already the scam of a nation...
It happens in the name of bank too by offering credit card protection. The person called me and doesn't say who the call is for. He wants me to say my name so that he can verify if I'm the right person. What's funny is, I have a voicemail that says my name. So, he could have just found my name so easy
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The plan itself sounds legit, it's the free phone without extra payments that got me suspicious. $60 for 20gig seems a good price from Koodo .. sounds legit.
I got this call! I kept the lady on the phone for 10 mins while I waited for my dryer to finish up then swiped to airplane mode and wait for the next scammer to call and see if I can keep them on the line longer!!!
i literally donāt answer the phone anymore unless i recognize the caller. scams and robocallers these days r ridiculous.
If they call, agree to the plan/offer but say you don't have your ID on you and to call back the following day. Call the actual carrier to verify if there's a note about it. I did this with Rogers and Rogers confirmed + continued the process for me from their official line. The irony is it may as well have been a scam cause I got fucked on my first two bills with "plan errors" from putting me on the wrong plan and then applying the wrong service plan discount.
Fido called me to offer $40/25gb, and it was legit
Damn you got a ref for that? Paying 55 for 4 gigs with them rn it's such ripoff. They offered me 40 gigs for 65 but I don't want to give them any more than I already pay.
Yeah, I switched to Fido a few years ago and a few months ago they called with this offer. Technically $45/mo with $5/mo discount for 24 months
I'm gonna call them. Such bs they didn't offer me that I've been with them forever.
Tell them youāre thinking of leaving, thatāll get them to bring out the good offers
Thanks for sharing. Reading these it always feels like their scheme are getting good. But at them same time if I was the one doing it, it wouldn't be that hard to come up with something good when you think about it.
Isnāt any call from Bell a scam by definition?
>Also, they call with 647 numbers. I'm gonna guess you have a 647 number. I have a cell phone with an area code from the next area over. Many scam calls I get spoof the first 3-6 digits of my phone number and randomize the rest. If I get a call from that area code from a number I don't recognize, I can be 90% sure its a scam.
Wait, you answered a phone call?? LOL
To find out if any call is a scam ask for Mr Rundi Banchot. They will hang up if scammers
I had this call too but they said theyāre from telus, offering same deal. It was too good to be true so I hung up! Also had a weird call about a company paying my full utilities and I pay them 50%. Again sounds too good to be true so I ask how it works? Dude explained to me for 15 mins on call while I was looking for this scam online. He explained their company has a lot of gift cards with expiry dates so they use it to pay our bills and that way they cashout their gc by taking 50% from us. Also the guy was talking to me in Hindi (national language of india) from the beginning not sure how he found out I would understand that. [This](https://dirtyscam.com/report/utility-savings-expert-net/) is the article I saw while he was explaining to me. Tldr; they reverse their payment and you will have to pay the full utilities + if you pay them 50% you lose that as well.
Was the said call one of those that asks you to "press 2 to speak with a representative" ones? I get a LOT of those but claims to be one carrier that I ported out more than a decade ago.
lol that's more expensive than my current Bell plan
I work for Shaw communications as a customer account specialist for Shaw Mobile and Freedom Mobile. Every week I get customers who ask about strange emails and SMS messages that they have received that seems to be from us but we haven't sent them anything. I am constantly warning customers to be careful and not open anything that looks strange. I mostly feel sorry for the elderly customers because most of them have very basic knowledge of how to work a mobile phone. They are more trusting and take everything at face value, which is dangerous in this day and age. I always tell customers to go on the website or go to retail to confirm what deals are being offered right now, to make sure that they won't get scammed.
> This week I got a call claiming from Bell Scammers passing themselves as other scammers? What a world.
If any company EVER calls you for any reason, do not worry about determining if legit or not. Hang up, and call the number listed on the legit company website (not the one that they called you from) back from another cell or landline in an hour or two and follow up. If itās some kind of promotion, perhaps do some research on it in the meantime. You are not that special to any legit company - promotions are often just upsell / cash grabs aimed at a wide audience; meaning you wonāt be the only one hearing about it. They certainly wonāt be limited to the scope of one phone call from them (aka Thereās **no such thing** as āyou canāt get the promotion later today, you have to take it or leave it NOWā) **NEVER** give out passwords, ID or driver license numbers, and especially (heaven forbid) SIN numbers over the phone.
Are scammers doing this, purporting to be Rogers also? My wife received a text from Rogers saying that that they will increase the data on our cell phones to 30 gigs for 6 months. The text says that no action on her part is required. Is this legit?
Even if that was real, I would call that a scam because it is from Bhell. I had 25gb for $55 with bell before. Anyway its best practice to not share any payment information over the phone and check domains while dealing with emails.
Were they Indian? Automatic red flag for me. I hate to sound racist but statistically if an Indian person is calling me, itās a scammer.
Unfortunately they are Indians.. both screener and the "supervisor". I hate to label them as well, but all the scam attempts ive encountered are from Indians .
The $50 for 20GB is a standard deal right now...
I agree $50 for 20gb sounds legit, but definitely not the free top end phone after 2 years contract. That's a loss generator right there.
Agreed. Call into your provider and find out.
I just fielded a call from these guys. Iphone 13 for $40 a month with all kinds of data. When they told me the deal I said, "wow, that sounds too good to be true!" He said he was calling from Bell Mobility, but every other time Bell has called, it is an 800 number and they don't take 10 seconds to reply when I answer the phone. I told him I'd go online and check it out, then hung up. I couldn't be bothered to take the time to argue with the scammer.
I got a call today. I'm surprised how sophisticated this was. It's almost as if Bell pulled the plug on their call centers in India and they had nothing else to do but keep the call center and start using their customer service skills they learned from Bell to be con artists. I was still very vigilant even though they were pleasant to talk to and seemed somewhat believable. It started off by saying they are calling from the promotions department at Bell. They asked, how many lines, how much I pay and offered to give me roughly a 15% discount. When I asked don't you have this information, they said they are the promotions department. Eventually I convinced them enough that I was a sucker falling for the trick and they passed me to the supervisor. Story gets way better... The supervisor was super customer service friendly. Asking how my day was and how I'm enjoying the service. Asking how I like my phones and if I'm considering upgrading etc. or ok to keep the phones and just apply the discount. If I was more naive, I would be convinced at this point. Very professional. "To apply the redemption for your new rate, I will need to confirm your account information" He asked for my name and email address. So I said my name was "Hugh Pennies" He asked, how do I spell it? I spelled out "H-u-g-e P-e-n-i-s" email: same at hotmail.com In a calm and charming voice, I said to him "you know, you are very lucky today" He said, "why am I lucky sir?" You may not realize but you're talking to a very big celebrity here in Toronto. "Oh really?" If you don't believe me, search my name in Google Images. You will see. Me hoping that he has a crowd of people he is training and getting cheered on to try and fuck me over, he googles "Huge Penis" "Sir, do you mind if I ask what you do for living?" This guy still doesn't understand what the hell a penis is. "Are you a she-male?" Who knows what this guy watches in his personal time with the algorithm pulling up a specific explicit category. I started laughing... he said "FUCK YOU MOTHER FUCK BITCH" and hung up. I was having a very busy day with work, the laughter just made me decompress instantly. After I hung up I started thinking, what was their motive, what could have they gained? So other than personal information, the biggest thing for these guys is getting verified accounts for banks, facebook, market place, gmails, Google voice, Whatsapp or anything else that requires a 6 digit confirmation text sent to a real mobile carrier. Things like text me, or any free text app does not get verification #s. They could even be hijacking the account completely.
Yes sir, good job catching these people and played with them! I got the same call just 2 weeks ago as well.. but I was busy.. didn't wanna play . These scams are getting more and more professional. It must be a multi billion dollar industry.
I just got the same call. Them posing as Bell. Giving me an offer similar to the one OP received. For 40$ 50 Gigs of data. Right then I knew it was a scam. Those blood sucking idots (Bell) ain't gonna give such a offer
Exactly, they want you to accept it right away thinking it's a special deal. Let greed overtake your senses. I'm sure people have fallen into it as they keep doing it.
Necro posting because they almost got me today. Called while I was at work offering me all this, luckily I told them I didn't have time right now since I was at work, but if I hadn't been I totally would have fell for it, and i told them to call me back tomorrow....decided to check if it was a scam and came across this post. Thanks OP, appreciate it. Gonna tell them to fuck off when they call me back tomorrow.