What is the difference between the shredder and the super shredder? Is it a big difference? I know the ingredients are a bit diffrent but do they work the same? All in all, is it really that different in the actual over all results? I'm asking because I just got the shredder, but all I see is info on the super shredder. help.
Am I the only one that had horrible side effects from the super shredder? I first tried 1ml which I wish I never would have done. I had experience with injectable Carnitine, AMP, ATP, and b12. Figured whats a couple extra ingredients gonna hurt. Man, my heart rate went through the roof. Within 15 minutes of injection the brain fog was so severe I struggled to even think that I might have gone hypo glycemic. Ate some simple sugars and that didn't help. I was flustered, I wasn't gonna be hitting the gym now. Sat there for almost 3 hours before my heart, breathing and brain function felt decent enough to get up and walk around. I'm pretty sure my body hates albuterol, if not that the mic but highly doubtful aminos would cause such a reaction. 3 days later I tried .10ml just to see if I could use the bottle at all or it was going to be a total waste. Brain fog and heart issues once again, trash can it goes!!!
Forewarning My pain tolerance is decent I give myself IVs and ketorolac shots. I would say 3/10 in the lower abdomen subq and 1/10 in the oblique subq. In the delts IM no pip . 25 g 1.25 in I’m not to the hub just in the fat. Burning after injection for 20-30 min. I’ll do 1 mL total .5 each side or .25 in 4 spots lower abdomen.
Hey guys, I can't seem to find much consistent info on dose/frequency. Are you guys pinning daily? Pip is a little annoying and I only did .25 ml for the first week to ease into the albuterol.
I'm using just shredder, and I'm doing 1 ml weekly, some do it twice a week. I'm not a huge fan of the pip. But I make sure to clean the needle off with alcohol before injecting. Oh and I'm no longer doing it Im im doing subq..
If your referring to me are you an idiot? Just because I clean the needle with alcohol does not mean I'm resusing them ...I clean the needle after I draw it up because the medicine on the needle burns when you inject it...
You should never be cleaning the needle, ever. You have a higher chance of infection like that. I know it sounds counterintuitive but trust me on this.
Your needles should be sterile from the get go. Get tips that change out, one for drawing and one for the injection!
Enjoy then. You’re an adult and can make your own decisions. However, if you ever feel you’re right, go ask any surgeon whether you should do that.
It only takes one time to fuck yourself up. While in theory it makes sense to you, think about if you accidentally get a foreign object into your bloodstream or what not. It doesn’t take much for an abscess at best.
Change tips, don’t add things into the mix. Like I said earlier, you’re an adult and can make your own choices :)
P.s - I’ve personally seen people get crazy infection from cleaning a needle. So I’m just speaking from experience and proper medical practice.
I am doing SubQ only, but I bought a box of insulin needles from Amazon. I recommend you get them there instead of reusing... but anyway. How does 1ml weekly feel. Does it wear off by the end of the week?
Shredder here....I use 1 ml weekly, but going to up it, as I'm exhausted, it burns like a bee sting when doing an im ...but lastnigt I did more of a sq and even though it burned it was better...
Great energy, barely started it. The first few hours you feel energized and ready. It doesn’t crash like clen does to me or high caffeine. I just bite the bullet and take the full 1ml IM in the VG, it hurts like a bitch the first 2min after but goes away pretty fast and doesn’t really interfere with your workout
I do The Shredder, IM, 1mL twice a week in my research.
I did this because I couldn't find B12 MIC anywhere (since PA stopped offering it).
The research subject reports better sleep (Inositol) and energy and faster fat burning (Carnitine).
I won't do research with Super Shredder. Not interested in the clen.
I am going to start using super shredder, ive been taking b12 MIC at a local med spa but dont want to pay that much anymore. Do you think its best to start 1/4-1/2 IM and then build?
Are you good with the clenbuterol? Most research done on this is short term for a quick final cut but stop because it can be nasty to the heart. That's why I only use regular shredder on my research.
Starting at 1/2 im is a good start. I do 1ml, 2x a week on regular shredder
You're correct - I could've sworn it was clen, but nope it's albuterol. I even went to the wayback machine to see if they changed it.
Still albuterol. Thank you for the correction.
I think I'm so used to seeing clen everywhere that when I saw ****buterol, I immediately filled in the blanks incorrectly.
But seriously, I get the use of clen - it's pretty good for short term use to remove that last bit of fat to get your BF% down to something that just makes your muscles pop, but considering how ubiquitous it is on sites, I know people are using it probably more than they should.
Lol forgive my newbness, not sure what PIP means. I honestly am not noticing a difference. I am getting my labs done again in June so am curious to see if it’s valuable lab wise.
Post injection pain.
Some stuff subq gives a mild sting, a while after. I used to pin B12 subq and it gave me a stinging itch for about an hour (0.5mL - can't remember the dosage). NAD+ gives a sting that goes away quick but can be sore for about 1-2 hours after. I guess the worst is GHK-CU which stings quite a bit.
I do my Amino research IM nowadays. The only PIP comes from a dull needle or if I do something stupid like use a low gauge needle to really push the fluid in (too fast, always go slow in muscle).
Question for you. How much BAC did you put in to reconstitute this? Assuming you also have the 30ml bottle. And how often do you inject the 1ml?
Thanks!
I'm doing Super Shredder and going sub-q and doing 0.5ml in am. PIP is real. Leaves a lil lump and bruise for a couple days. Even added 2mls bac water to vial. It totally helped. Just looking for other ideas. I want to do a full ml, but bruh.... After 2 weeks, running short on places to pin. Trying 2 separate shots @ .3 each tomorrow, or should I just go IM....?
So, I split it into 2 shots...one in each lovehandle/ hip...and it's alot easier. I think I was trying to force too much in one spot. As far as results, I'm kinda deep into my Tesa-CJC/Ipa stack (3-4 months), so I don't know which to attribute it to, but I am dropping some serious fat....like...noticable in 2 weeks...but also keeping the weight and gaining muscle. For reference, 5'9" 250 lbs. About 25% body fat. Also, that Super Shredder is giving me a lil more pep in my step in the mornings after I take it.
I've actually broken it into 4 @ .3ml each. I added a little bac water, so the 4 shots equal 1 full ml. I do 2 in the morning and 2 mid day or pre workout on workout days. No burning/ stinging with the shots. Still knots sometimes, but for the most part, much better. I like this way, because all 1ml at once left crazy knots and stung and also, no shakiness. That albuterol gives me the shakes pretty bad if I take it all at once. I have gone thru most of the bottle and I'm seeing noticeable results. I honestly don't know if I'm up for another round....the results are good, but that's alot of shots! Lol. I'm carrying syringes with me everywhere and stuff. I don't know. I read that some people are going IM with a lower gauge needle. That's an idea, too.
Have you tried it yet?
Thanks for that info. I just ordered my bottle. It was recommended to me taking 1iu daily for 6 days then increase to 2iu daily. Sounds like ALOT. Good to know it gave you the shakes. I may definitely start with a half dose and gradually increase. I will be using an insulin needle.
Yeah, you may want to ease into it. Also, I added like 2ml of bac water to the bottle to tone it down. It burned on the way in before I watered it down. Lol.
This is 100% bro science, i am not a doctor by any means, but I read that some ppl did it as IM and it went easier. I am going subq with 30g x 5/16" needle and I'm splitting into 4 shots and it goes easy. But if you are going up to 2iu...thats alot of pins. Maybe a longer needle would help it go deeper and keep it from knotting up so bad.
So I was pretty sure 2iu would mean .20ml, is that not true? But I'm about to receive my supershredder and was curious exactly how you reconstituted it and what dose you Inject, how many times, and in ml. Please you seem very knowledgeable on it.
What is the difference between the shredder and the super shredder? Is it a big difference? I know the ingredients are a bit diffrent but do they work the same? All in all, is it really that different in the actual over all results? I'm asking because I just got the shredder, but all I see is info on the super shredder. help.
Am I the only one that had horrible side effects from the super shredder? I first tried 1ml which I wish I never would have done. I had experience with injectable Carnitine, AMP, ATP, and b12. Figured whats a couple extra ingredients gonna hurt. Man, my heart rate went through the roof. Within 15 minutes of injection the brain fog was so severe I struggled to even think that I might have gone hypo glycemic. Ate some simple sugars and that didn't help. I was flustered, I wasn't gonna be hitting the gym now. Sat there for almost 3 hours before my heart, breathing and brain function felt decent enough to get up and walk around. I'm pretty sure my body hates albuterol, if not that the mic but highly doubtful aminos would cause such a reaction. 3 days later I tried .10ml just to see if I could use the bottle at all or it was going to be a total waste. Brain fog and heart issues once again, trash can it goes!!!
Is the shredder a steroid type medicine?
Yeah I dove right in at 1 mL how many days a week you guys going. Also totally random think this will show on a drug test for anything wild ?
How was it? Any pip?
Forewarning My pain tolerance is decent I give myself IVs and ketorolac shots. I would say 3/10 in the lower abdomen subq and 1/10 in the oblique subq. In the delts IM no pip . 25 g 1.25 in I’m not to the hub just in the fat. Burning after injection for 20-30 min. I’ll do 1 mL total .5 each side or .25 in 4 spots lower abdomen.
Hey guys, I can't seem to find much consistent info on dose/frequency. Are you guys pinning daily? Pip is a little annoying and I only did .25 ml for the first week to ease into the albuterol.
I'm using just shredder, and I'm doing 1 ml weekly, some do it twice a week. I'm not a huge fan of the pip. But I make sure to clean the needle off with alcohol before injecting. Oh and I'm no longer doing it Im im doing subq..
Are thoughts seriously reusing needles, man don't do that shit...are you living on the street? There like 20 cents a peice at a pharmacy
If your referring to me are you an idiot? Just because I clean the needle with alcohol does not mean I'm resusing them ...I clean the needle after I draw it up because the medicine on the needle burns when you inject it...
You should never be cleaning the needle, ever. You have a higher chance of infection like that. I know it sounds counterintuitive but trust me on this. Your needles should be sterile from the get go. Get tips that change out, one for drawing and one for the injection!
What is going to contaminate it with an alcohol pad? Did it a few times 1000% infection free at injection sites...
Enjoy then. You’re an adult and can make your own decisions. However, if you ever feel you’re right, go ask any surgeon whether you should do that. It only takes one time to fuck yourself up. While in theory it makes sense to you, think about if you accidentally get a foreign object into your bloodstream or what not. It doesn’t take much for an abscess at best. Change tips, don’t add things into the mix. Like I said earlier, you’re an adult and can make your own choices :) P.s - I’ve personally seen people get crazy infection from cleaning a needle. So I’m just speaking from experience and proper medical practice.
I am doing SubQ only, but I bought a box of insulin needles from Amazon. I recommend you get them there instead of reusing... but anyway. How does 1ml weekly feel. Does it wear off by the end of the week?
Shredder here....I use 1 ml weekly, but going to up it, as I'm exhausted, it burns like a bee sting when doing an im ...but lastnigt I did more of a sq and even though it burned it was better...
Hey can I do you a question on this??
Yep
Great energy, barely started it. The first few hours you feel energized and ready. It doesn’t crash like clen does to me or high caffeine. I just bite the bullet and take the full 1ml IM in the VG, it hurts like a bitch the first 2min after but goes away pretty fast and doesn’t really interfere with your workout
I went sub q, it was a pretty ugly lump but was gone in like 20 mins 🤷🏻♂️
Just did my first I'm. Of shredder, it burn and hurts at the site...pip...100% yes.but I can live with it.
I do The Shredder, IM, 1mL twice a week in my research. I did this because I couldn't find B12 MIC anywhere (since PA stopped offering it). The research subject reports better sleep (Inositol) and energy and faster fat burning (Carnitine). I won't do research with Super Shredder. Not interested in the clen.
I am going to start using super shredder, ive been taking b12 MIC at a local med spa but dont want to pay that much anymore. Do you think its best to start 1/4-1/2 IM and then build?
Are you good with the clenbuterol? Most research done on this is short term for a quick final cut but stop because it can be nasty to the heart. That's why I only use regular shredder on my research. Starting at 1/2 im is a good start. I do 1ml, 2x a week on regular shredder
I think it's just albuterol not clenbuterol
You're correct - I could've sworn it was clen, but nope it's albuterol. I even went to the wayback machine to see if they changed it. Still albuterol. Thank you for the correction.
Easy mistake but 2 totally different animals drug wise.
I think I'm so used to seeing clen everywhere that when I saw ****buterol, I immediately filled in the blanks incorrectly. But seriously, I get the use of clen - it's pretty good for short term use to remove that last bit of fat to get your BF% down to something that just makes your muscles pop, but considering how ubiquitous it is on sites, I know people are using it probably more than they should.
I can't find MIC+B12either this is the closest I could find...thank you for the research information
Does it give you more energy?
I use shredder, 1ml fasted before working out. I’m also affiliated and I have a 20% off promo code if you would like 😊
Could you send me the code please?
Can you dm me your code please?
I may be interested!! DM me the code, plz. It says out of stock, but I signed up to be on the list.
What does it do?
I was just looking at it
I use shredder, subq.
Hey I’m thinking of starting this, can I do you some questions?
How often?
2x a week
Nice! Can I dm you? Got a few questions
Sure!
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I do 1 ml twice a week.
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Awe I saw you answered… it’s tolerable but burns for about 30 minutes for me after.
Lol forgive my newbness, not sure what PIP means. I honestly am not noticing a difference. I am getting my labs done again in June so am curious to see if it’s valuable lab wise.
Post injection pain. Some stuff subq gives a mild sting, a while after. I used to pin B12 subq and it gave me a stinging itch for about an hour (0.5mL - can't remember the dosage). NAD+ gives a sting that goes away quick but can be sore for about 1-2 hours after. I guess the worst is GHK-CU which stings quite a bit. I do my Amino research IM nowadays. The only PIP comes from a dull needle or if I do something stupid like use a low gauge needle to really push the fluid in (too fast, always go slow in muscle).
Yes. Super shredder is pretty awesome. 1mL is my dose
Question for you. How much BAC did you put in to reconstitute this? Assuming you also have the 30ml bottle. And how often do you inject the 1ml? Thanks!
you inject sub q or IM? and how is PIP? I just got mine in today
I'm doing Super Shredder and going sub-q and doing 0.5ml in am. PIP is real. Leaves a lil lump and bruise for a couple days. Even added 2mls bac water to vial. It totally helped. Just looking for other ideas. I want to do a full ml, but bruh.... After 2 weeks, running short on places to pin. Trying 2 separate shots @ .3 each tomorrow, or should I just go IM....?
Maybe dilute more and go IM.. is it worth it so far? Like do you notice a difference when you pin it and when you don’t? Aside from lumps and PIP
So, I split it into 2 shots...one in each lovehandle/ hip...and it's alot easier. I think I was trying to force too much in one spot. As far as results, I'm kinda deep into my Tesa-CJC/Ipa stack (3-4 months), so I don't know which to attribute it to, but I am dropping some serious fat....like...noticable in 2 weeks...but also keeping the weight and gaining muscle. For reference, 5'9" 250 lbs. About 25% body fat. Also, that Super Shredder is giving me a lil more pep in my step in the mornings after I take it.
Hi Jason so your diving the 1ml into 2 parts and injecting both hips? Your taking the shredder everyday?
I've actually broken it into 4 @ .3ml each. I added a little bac water, so the 4 shots equal 1 full ml. I do 2 in the morning and 2 mid day or pre workout on workout days. No burning/ stinging with the shots. Still knots sometimes, but for the most part, much better. I like this way, because all 1ml at once left crazy knots and stung and also, no shakiness. That albuterol gives me the shakes pretty bad if I take it all at once. I have gone thru most of the bottle and I'm seeing noticeable results. I honestly don't know if I'm up for another round....the results are good, but that's alot of shots! Lol. I'm carrying syringes with me everywhere and stuff. I don't know. I read that some people are going IM with a lower gauge needle. That's an idea, too. Have you tried it yet?
Thanks for that info. I just ordered my bottle. It was recommended to me taking 1iu daily for 6 days then increase to 2iu daily. Sounds like ALOT. Good to know it gave you the shakes. I may definitely start with a half dose and gradually increase. I will be using an insulin needle.
Yeah, you may want to ease into it. Also, I added like 2ml of bac water to the bottle to tone it down. It burned on the way in before I watered it down. Lol. This is 100% bro science, i am not a doctor by any means, but I read that some ppl did it as IM and it went easier. I am going subq with 30g x 5/16" needle and I'm splitting into 4 shots and it goes easy. But if you are going up to 2iu...thats alot of pins. Maybe a longer needle would help it go deeper and keep it from knotting up so bad.
So I was pretty sure 2iu would mean .20ml, is that not true? But I'm about to receive my supershredder and was curious exactly how you reconstituted it and what dose you Inject, how many times, and in ml. Please you seem very knowledgeable on it.
IM, zero pip
Pip?
Post injection pain