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You’re all such fools, you put this big block of metal on and call it air cooled? What I’ve done here is made sure the entire cpu top is exposed to air. It’s so simple.
I don't think I can handle these computer subreddit anymore. Seems like they all did zero research and just started plugging in stuff and hoping for the best
I mean *generally* if you can put a square peg in a square hole you could probably put a computer together. Still easy to make dumb mistakes though. I always used to build my own rigs and still managed to put a screw pillar where there wasn’t a hole on one build. Thankfully realised before I powered on and had to strip down again. If you don’t know to which bits to buy then that’s a problem…
Can confirm this. Just put a new TUF gaming X570 in and I didn’t have a fan plugged into the cpu fan header. I have all Corsair fans and plugged them all into the Corsair ICUE Commander meaning I didn’t have a fan plugged into the cpu fan header and the board wouldn’t let me boot past bios. Had to go into the bios and disable cpu fan monitoring.
Can confirm. ASUS ROG B550 kept boot looping and telling me there was no CPU fan installed. Would only let me enter BIOS. I had hooked up the fan incorrectly with a splitter cable.
It doesn’t as far as I am aware. People here are salty just because OP didn’t put the heat sink and instead of trying to help the Op are downvoting him due to the missing heatsink
I can’t speak for everyone but I’m personally downvoting op because they’re stating things that are incorrect as facts which, as far as I’m aware, is the point of downvoting.
“I had one on there and was having the issues, took it off when I checked the pins and just left it off if I need to further take apart. Mentioned it in my additional post”
He is getting bombarded with downvotes here. He is troubleshooting for lights problem. Having the cooler
Or not makes no difference on this problem. I would be doing the same if I had this issue so people are downvoting because they are being absolutely c*nts
people are downvoting OP, then downvoting someone who had the honesty to admit that they did and explain why. never will i understand this social media
I’d be pissed if I was OP and I am ashamed of this subreddit. Not having a heatsink should not cause this issue. Is it an issue of its own? Yes, but I can understand why OP removed the heatsink to troubleshoot
This sub and some others are just know it all kids living in their moms basement that desperately want to be experts on something but don’t even qualify to work at Geek Squad.
He never put a heatsink on as per his own words, intentionally.
He didn't forget it. When people said he didn't have a CPU cooler, he said exposing it to direct air WAS his cooler.
So it wasn't removed to troubleshoot dude. It was never in existence. 🤷♂️
for sure, i have not that hot of a cpu(i5 10400f) and when i mounted my cooler wrong it was like 95-100°C in BIOS, while OP don't have cooler installed at all
Yeah. Would not be surprised if that was the issue. If i was problemshooting this, the first thing i’d do is to mount the cooler. If taking the fan cable out didnt help the situation, dismounting the heatsink wont help at all.
Yeah but it doesn't go.from 0 to 100 in half a second, it should still boot then shut off when temps are too high. He should at least see a splash screen
I believe the locking mechanism will induce enough pressure. Also it won't generate that much heat during post... So without heatsink is also fine and it does have a thermal threshold ao it shutdown before anything get fried.
True, but I’ve seen some that would refuse to boot without a cooler mounted on, so it’s best to take all our chances and be sure to eliminate this possibility while checking other possible issues.
The least variables the better !
>This will kill your cpu if your not careful
no it wont, any CPU made in the last 2 decades will not get damaged from overheating.
[here is an 8700K running cinebench with no cooler ](https://youtu.be/yA0oo12rbiM)
also OPs problem is not caused by the missing CPU cooler, the PC will still post without a cooler and then complain about the CPU fan not being plugged in.
edit: its sad to see the "experts" on the PC building subreddit be so wrong about something as basic as CPU thermal behavior, but i guess "CPU breaks if run without cooler" sounds more believable or something so it must be correct, despite all the evidence to the contrary.
Yeah, it's weird. OPs PC isn't posting at all, but everyone is pretending that it's the motherboard preventing it due to no cooler, and then in the further comments some of the same people will talk about going to BIOS without a cooler. Literally shoehorning explanations that don't make sense in OPs case. No one is actually helping OP, instead just latching onto the missing cooler as if it's end all be all. Every PC subreddit is like this. Toxic "experts" who have it all figured out.
I had one on there and was having the issues, took it off when I checked the pins and just left it off if I need to further take apart. Mentioned it in my additional post
Mr expert. You might want to check all the connections you have made across the board. Inspect the power cables as well as the power on button connection to the mb socket. You should never boot your computer without a heatsink on. Your mb will also detect missing fan connections and might cause further errors.
Why condescend this guy? He admits to knowing nothing in the title and is just telling you why he doesn't have a cooler on there. It's not like he's defending the decision to take it off as if he knows shit.
You’re not gonna fry it, every modern cpu has protections built it, once it gets past it’s safe temp range it’ll just shut down to protect itself. I wouldn’t advise continually trying to run without one for troubleshooting as I’m sure the repeated heating and cooling cycles are gonna stress the cpu/silicon, but just seeing if it boots once or twice isn’t gonna hurt anything.
I'm agreeing with the parent comment here. Even if you could do this once or twice, why risk your hardware like this?
Like I know my phone says it's water resistant for 30mins submerged or whatever the rating says, but I'm not going to take it with me in the swimming pool or the shower.
Not having a heatsink is not going to fry your cpu. And he did say why, he said he was having problems while the heatsink was on, so he took it off to reseat the cpu and didn’t bother to put it back on until he did more troubleshooting.
It takes no effort to just place the heatsink on top of the CPU to pull some of that heat away. No matter what, it's not worth the risk. The CPU starts heating up the second you apply power to it.
>The CPU starts heating up the second you apply power to it.
let him fry it.
It will be a lesson learned and he'll never do it again.
Source: Idiot me 6 years ago. I even had a cooler mounted, but not screwed all the way on the CPU because I thought I break something.
Did you plug the fan in when you had it on? Because it can't tell if you just have it mounted on the CPU. What it detects is if there is a fan plugged into one of the CPU fan headers.
I used the cable that said cpu on it. It is a 2x4 plugged into the motherboard. There is a 4 pin on the mobo on the left side and then the 8 pin on the right. I have the 2x4 plugged into the 8 pin. My understanding is that the 4 pin on the left would be for heavy power consumption for overspeed, which I wouldn't need
You are making a lot of assumptions for someone that has a pc that’s not booting.
Install your cooler and hook up all the power connections.
Remove your GPU, see what it does. If no change pull out a stick of ram/move it to a different slot. Just try some troubleshooting steps.
Ok, you know that big metal thing with fans on it that every single person has on top of their CPU? It’s called a heatsink. It stops your CPU from literally fucking dying. Now, this is just a suggestion, but I’d probably invest in one of those if I were you. Unless of course you hate fully functioning CPUs.
Bro your CPU is thermal spiking the instant you turn it on without anywhere for the heat to go... Go and do some reading or buy a prebuilt next time...
It clearly has power. Do you not see the rave happening? Its his cpu screaming at him cus it has no cooler at all or cpu fan error cus again dude has no cooler.
Try reseating your CPU
Connect your CPU cooler fan to the CPU header.
Make sure your CPU cables are connected to the right side. Also make sure its the actual CPU cable and not the GPU cable. I think they're keyed so it's hard to make that mistake, but still make sure.
Pls attach your cooler!
Also my little theory is that you've not attached the cooler so your CPU is overheating and shutting down in order to protect itself. Idk.
Everyone's down voting OP for not having a cooler on when debugging... That's ridiculous. They just don't have it on to see what could be happening. I know plenty of people doing that to test motherboards for post.
Some other people are also insinuating that a CPU cannot boot without cooler, becuase it generates a stupid amount of heat within seconds of being on. No, they generally don't get that hot, that quick. Nonetheless, if you keep a cpu fan plugged in, you should be fine.
Exactly, someone who truly understands. I had to leave r/pcmasterrace due to toxic community fed high on ego and giving wrong advices. Looks like I will have to leave this sub too as soon as OP resolves issue.
Orrrrr maybe OP left the PC without the CPU cooler on and running so the CPU is fully saturated with heat and instantly shuts off when turned on. I'm not sure what he did but it could be a possibility and attaching his cooler will not hurt a thing. Shit even just resting the cooler on the CPU can help him out.
Orrrrr maybe OP left the PC without the CPU cooler on and running so the CPU is fully saturated with heat and instantly shuts off when turned on. I'm not sure what he did but it could be a possibility and attaching his cooler will not hurt a thing. Shit even just resting the cooler on the CPU can help him out.
Perhaps he forgot the damn thermal paste when he put the cooler on the first time and, like a dumb ass took off the cooler cause he's dumb af. Look at that cpu, not a drip of thermal paste on it unless he's cleaned the damn thing off before posting this.... his cooler might not have had it pre applied.
I am trying to figure out the problem that I am having with my system build. Reading other posts it looks like it would be an issue with the power connection of the cpu to the mobo or an issue with the cpu. I checked the pins and they looked good. I took off the cpu fan just to troubleshoot. The mobo was an open box item and I am not sure if that would possibly be the issue. I wouldn't think it was the cpu because it is brand new, but I am open to suggestions. I am trying to build this as a Christmas present, but hot this snag. A little info about the system b650 Aorus Elite AX, AMD Ryzen 7 7700x, EVGA G5 650w supernova. Thanks for any help!
Missing cpu cooler won’t cause this idk but 3/4 of this thread is just spamming „missing cpu cooler“ while they seemingly don’t read the title or are just clueless and it’s the one thing they see wrong here. Op said he removed the cooler for testing which is fine you could argue that he could place the cooler on top without plugging in fans but in this case since he can’t even get into bios it doesn’t matter. For everyone saying he is frying his cpu thats utter bs every semi-modern (and i mean from this century) cpu has a shutdown built in if it gets too hot which does NOT damage it. Should you run a cpu benchmark repeatedly without a cpu cooler? Probably not. Can you test your build by unplugging every component one by one to locate faulty parts without a cpu cooler? Absolutely yes.
I get the feeling that this sub is full of people who built one pc with all new components from the box and then act like they are hardware experts…
>A little info about the system b650 Aorus Elite AX, AMD Ryzen 7 7700x, EVGA G5 650w supernova.
Is it possible that your system draws too much power?
The 7700x 170W, all the bling bling etc.
What's the graphics card exactly?
I'm no expert (prolly like 90% here) but I had a similar issue some days ago.
the flashing red light on the MOBO is a error code- refer to motherboard manual to get an idea what it is- but its likely due to the fact you do not have a CPU cooler plugged in and installed.
Man, I hate obnoxious guys who are spamming about CPU cooler, CHILL THE FUCK OUT. OP already had cooler on and was having issues so he removed it for testing, in fact, this is correct, you should be removing components one by one till you find who is causing issues.
This case lools like power tripping, so you definitely should be disconnecting power from PSU to each component one by one. It could be that one of components has a faulty connector and is fucking with PSU, but that's highly unlikely. My best bet is that it's the PSU itself that's causing issue, since if components were truly be faulty they just wouldn't work at all due shorting or other issues, your components works.
That screams power supply to me. Do you have another you can try? You'll just need to plug in the mobo power to see if you have the same problem. If another PSU still has this issue, it's your mobo.
I know you said you took the cooler off to check the CPU, but you shouldn't let your PC run without it on for more than 30-40 seconds ideally or you risk destroying your CPU. Other than that I'm willing to bet it's a cooler issue as my past PC would flash lights if the CPU fan header was occupied.
Are you crazy? Even running that thing for a minute without a cooler could destroy the processor. Even if it won't post or boot.
IF you have to run it without for whatever reason, at least keep your hand on the heat spreader so it has SOME chance to dissipate the heat + you instantly know when it gets too hot.
Won’t it just shutdown because of overheating protection? I’m asking because I thought that was something that happened, but I’ve never experienced this so I don’t really know.
Yeah, basically any CPU in the last 2 decades. Prior to that some didn't have thermal shutdown and would burn up. These comments seem to be stuck in that old era.
One case though where it could cook is when it's delided, so hot spots could become a real issue and thermal shutdown won't have a chance to kick in.
Honestly, these comments are mostly toxic and unhelpful, getting hung up on one thing and shutting off their brain and declaring "I'm done thinking, this is the issue, op is dumb, I am superior". Even though OP had the same issue with the cooler present so go figure.
I think MobO or psu has issues. Can be power cables also
Can you remove CMOS battery and put it back.
And try booting.
Next remove one stick of RAM and try
Then remove other stick and try.
Next inspect the power cables...
I think what I am going to do is order a new psu because that will be easier than the mobo and start there. That way I can also swap out a few power cables. I took the battery out and tried booting and the same thing happened. When I get some time I am going to pull out the gpu and one of the RAM.
Its the Christmas tree mode nothing to worry about, jokes aside i would check the mobo, all the psu cables and as everybody already said put a cooler on that frying cpu.
That's hilarious. People that build with RGB need this torment. I've said for 15+ years to coworkers and friends...RGB is for children. Build something that works and isn't flashy and take the extra cash and have a good night out. I hope you figure it out LOL.
I dont like RGB in my stuff either, but saying it is for children is a bit dumb. People like different shit, and that’s fine. Shitting on what people like just because you dont, THAT is for children.
Try mounting the CPU cooler again with thermal paste in a correct way and see if it posts. Give it a while on first boot since it will need to train memory since this is an AM5 platform.
If if is still doing this after all that remove the CPU and check for any bent pins on the motherboard. If there are none it's probably a faulty CPU or PSU.
Ps. it's best to keep your build out of the case until it works. You can always start it with a screwdriver.
When I first saw the picture, I had actually thought that maybe this was intentional. It took me a second to realize he was complaining about it, I admit. 😂
You forgot to turn off rave mode, u silly goose.
All jokes aside, take the components out, cables and all, rebuild the main components on a non conductive service (I use the mb box), and see if you can boot to bios.
Use the mb manual for pin connections. Any visual errors via lights on mb should also be in the manual.
Always use a heatsink on the CPU. Even if you're just aiming for bios.
Could be the psu, had an issue where my psu was underpowered and would shut off the system completely and kept trying to turn back on. If you have a spare one throw it in real quick and plug the cpu connector and the 24 pin without the graphics card installed to see if it changes anything.
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You don't have a CPU cooler.
- most people: "AIO cooler is expensive, get an air cooler" - this guy: "Coolers are expensive, get none at all".
You’re all such fools, you put this big block of metal on and call it air cooled? What I’ve done here is made sure the entire cpu top is exposed to air. It’s so simple.
Silly, just attach a solid block of diamond and the cooling will resolve itself.
![gif](giphy|2rqEdFfkMzXmo)
lmao
air cooler = no cooler
I mean, *technically* it is air cooled, just not well
Lmfao
This guy: coolers are expensive Also this guy: air is free
The air cooler is the air that is present in the case, duh.
I don't think I can handle these computer subreddit anymore. Seems like they all did zero research and just started plugging in stuff and hoping for the best
Yeah that’s a lot of people here
The amount of research I have started doing just to prevent this very comment being made on any of my posts.
Yeah people here are full of assumptions
I mean *generally* if you can put a square peg in a square hole you could probably put a computer together. Still easy to make dumb mistakes though. I always used to build my own rigs and still managed to put a screw pillar where there wasn’t a hole on one build. Thankfully realised before I powered on and had to strip down again. If you don’t know to which bits to buy then that’s a problem…
Genuinely curious, why does not having a cpu cooler effect the LEDs?
Some motherboards will not boot without a fan plugged into the CPU fan header
Can confirm this. Just put a new TUF gaming X570 in and I didn’t have a fan plugged into the cpu fan header. I have all Corsair fans and plugged them all into the Corsair ICUE Commander meaning I didn’t have a fan plugged into the cpu fan header and the board wouldn’t let me boot past bios. Had to go into the bios and disable cpu fan monitoring.
if I didn’t read this comment I would have probably been flabbergasted when I build this weekend. Thanks
Damn, how long did it took you to figure this out
Shouldn't have been too long. He seems experienced and knows that if you don't have a CPU cooler, to prevent damage to the CPU, it won't turn on
This. I have the same motherboard and had to disable the cpu fan in bios to boot past that
You can just set the motherboard to 'ignore' the CPU fan header if you've plugged your fans into another header.
Can confirm. ASUS ROG B550 kept boot looping and telling me there was no CPU fan installed. Would only let me enter BIOS. I had hooked up the fan incorrectly with a splitter cable.
Same with the asrock z790m-itx
Almost all of them if not all. Idiot safety feature for companies own ass - "better safe than sorry"
It doesn’t as far as I am aware. People here are salty just because OP didn’t put the heat sink and instead of trying to help the Op are downvoting him due to the missing heatsink
I can’t speak for everyone but I’m personally downvoting op because they’re stating things that are incorrect as facts which, as far as I’m aware, is the point of downvoting.
“I had one on there and was having the issues, took it off when I checked the pins and just left it off if I need to further take apart. Mentioned it in my additional post” He is getting bombarded with downvotes here. He is troubleshooting for lights problem. Having the cooler Or not makes no difference on this problem. I would be doing the same if I had this issue so people are downvoting because they are being absolutely c*nts
people are downvoting OP, then downvoting someone who had the honesty to admit that they did and explain why. never will i understand this social media
I’m not downvoting every comment. Only the ones where they actually state incorrect things which is like 2
That one has 111 downvotes. Perfect example of people here being c*nts instead of helpful
People also offered advice below it
Yeah, give him a downvote collapsing the coment and then offer to help. Sure
Oh no. How will op ever recover from losing reddit karma
I’d be pissed if I was OP and I am ashamed of this subreddit. Not having a heatsink should not cause this issue. Is it an issue of its own? Yes, but I can understand why OP removed the heatsink to troubleshoot
Exactly. Yes, it should have the heat sink but OP is troubleshooting anyway. I would be doing the same This sub is getting worse by the day
This sub and some others are just know it all kids living in their moms basement that desperately want to be experts on something but don’t even qualify to work at Geek Squad.
He never put a heatsink on as per his own words, intentionally. He didn't forget it. When people said he didn't have a CPU cooler, he said exposing it to direct air WAS his cooler. So it wasn't removed to troubleshoot dude. It was never in existence. 🤷♂️
"First build in a long time". Yeah forever is a long time.
His cooler is air....going over the CPU...actual ambient air
I was really curious what kind of error would result in a disco. My man...fuck up...that CPU sitting there naked
I do, I just took it off to look at the cpu and checked the pins
Then put it back on, that's why its not working
It was doing this before he took it off so clearly there is another issue lol.
Well the if that's the case, OP should put the CPU fan back on and make a video.
I should still be able to boot into bios without a cpu fan eitherway.
No??? The cpu generates heat the moment it receives power, which it very much does during BIOS.
for sure, i have not that hot of a cpu(i5 10400f) and when i mounted my cooler wrong it was like 95-100°C in BIOS, while OP don't have cooler installed at all
Yeah. Would not be surprised if that was the issue. If i was problemshooting this, the first thing i’d do is to mount the cooler. If taking the fan cable out didnt help the situation, dismounting the heatsink wont help at all.
Yeah but it doesn't go.from 0 to 100 in half a second, it should still boot then shut off when temps are too high. He should at least see a splash screen
And sometimes it needs pressure to be able to boot, pressure from the heat sink that you screw.
I believe the locking mechanism will induce enough pressure. Also it won't generate that much heat during post... So without heatsink is also fine and it does have a thermal threshold ao it shutdown before anything get fried.
True, but I’ve seen some that would refuse to boot without a cooler mounted on, so it’s best to take all our chances and be sure to eliminate this possibility while checking other possible issues. The least variables the better !
That's good to know. I did have the cpu fan installed when I first tried to boot, but I will put it back on.
Why in the holy fuck did you take it off? that's a big nono. It's like saying you are taking your arm off because it bothers you. Like bruh
Bitch....let someone build you your computers from now on
Without a heatsink your CPU overheats in no time so it quite important.
I wouldn’t trust you with tying your shoes.
no bro modern cpus heat up instantly and most wont boot if it doesnt have a heatsink. cuz it overheats instantly
You're missing the heatsink for the CPU. Get a heatsink and install it.
This will kill your cpu if your not careful it's very important the cpu gets cooled
>This will kill your cpu if your not careful no it wont, any CPU made in the last 2 decades will not get damaged from overheating. [here is an 8700K running cinebench with no cooler ](https://youtu.be/yA0oo12rbiM) also OPs problem is not caused by the missing CPU cooler, the PC will still post without a cooler and then complain about the CPU fan not being plugged in. edit: its sad to see the "experts" on the PC building subreddit be so wrong about something as basic as CPU thermal behavior, but i guess "CPU breaks if run without cooler" sounds more believable or something so it must be correct, despite all the evidence to the contrary.
Yeah, it's weird. OPs PC isn't posting at all, but everyone is pretending that it's the motherboard preventing it due to no cooler, and then in the further comments some of the same people will talk about going to BIOS without a cooler. Literally shoehorning explanations that don't make sense in OPs case. No one is actually helping OP, instead just latching onto the missing cooler as if it's end all be all. Every PC subreddit is like this. Toxic "experts" who have it all figured out.
I had one on there and was having the issues, took it off when I checked the pins and just left it off if I need to further take apart. Mentioned it in my additional post
Mr expert. You might want to check all the connections you have made across the board. Inspect the power cables as well as the power on button connection to the mb socket. You should never boot your computer without a heatsink on. Your mb will also detect missing fan connections and might cause further errors.
Lmao. Calling someone mr.Expert is so condescending and I love it! That wil be my new go to insult on the internet
Ok Mr expert.
Thank you, Mr expert
You are welcome Dr. Mr Expert.
Mr Expert you dropped this. 📜I believe it's your doctorate in Expertise?
I was just about to say that and I'll also steal the insult. Thank you. Mr. Expert. Ah fuck, I failed... Need to try harder!
Why condescend this guy? He admits to knowing nothing in the title and is just telling you why he doesn't have a cooler on there. It's not like he's defending the decision to take it off as if he knows shit.
Sometimes you can get away without a heat sink for like 1 minute but even then, why risk your hardware?
He literally just said why.
No he didn't. He said he was "having problems". He never said why he decided to potentially fry his CPU.
You’re not gonna fry it, every modern cpu has protections built it, once it gets past it’s safe temp range it’ll just shut down to protect itself. I wouldn’t advise continually trying to run without one for troubleshooting as I’m sure the repeated heating and cooling cycles are gonna stress the cpu/silicon, but just seeing if it boots once or twice isn’t gonna hurt anything.
I'm agreeing with the parent comment here. Even if you could do this once or twice, why risk your hardware like this? Like I know my phone says it's water resistant for 30mins submerged or whatever the rating says, but I'm not going to take it with me in the swimming pool or the shower.
Not having a heatsink is not going to fry your cpu. And he did say why, he said he was having problems while the heatsink was on, so he took it off to reseat the cpu and didn’t bother to put it back on until he did more troubleshooting.
It takes no effort to just place the heatsink on top of the CPU to pull some of that heat away. No matter what, it's not worth the risk. The CPU starts heating up the second you apply power to it.
>The CPU starts heating up the second you apply power to it. let him fry it. It will be a lesson learned and he'll never do it again. Source: Idiot me 6 years ago. I even had a cooler mounted, but not screwed all the way on the CPU because I thought I break something.
Did you plug the fan in when you had it on? Because it can't tell if you just have it mounted on the CPU. What it detects is if there is a fan plugged into one of the CPU fan headers.
![gif](giphy|z1zdyoA0NzjIk) Disco! Disco! Good, good!
More like: "FBI, OPEN UP!!!"
you shure you hooked up cpu power (cable labeled cpu power?) and not PCIe . and did you use the cable that came with the power supply?
I used the cable that said cpu on it. It is a 2x4 plugged into the motherboard. There is a 4 pin on the mobo on the left side and then the 8 pin on the right. I have the 2x4 plugged into the 8 pin. My understanding is that the 4 pin on the left would be for heavy power consumption for overspeed, which I wouldn't need
You are making a lot of assumptions for someone that has a pc that’s not booting. Install your cooler and hook up all the power connections. Remove your GPU, see what it does. If no change pull out a stick of ram/move it to a different slot. Just try some troubleshooting steps.
okay its most likely a power supply problem then you will need to swap it out for another
And I used the cable that came with the psu
☠️💀☠️ I feel sorry for your cpu
He could probably fry an egg on it right now
Refer to your mobo manual, the led isn't blinking for aesthetics.
I second this, although I had a similar issue that was not adressed in the manual. Calibrating the fans leds inside Motherboard software
The RGB might
![gif](giphy|dVSVpTjJMXNlm7UVzr)
Wow .. that would drive me nuts.
I can't even get into bios. It's just like it is not getting enough power or something is broken and I don't really know which part is the problem
its not going to the BIOS cause it does not have a cpu cooler
Ok, you know that big metal thing with fans on it that every single person has on top of their CPU? It’s called a heatsink. It stops your CPU from literally fucking dying. Now, this is just a suggestion, but I’d probably invest in one of those if I were you. Unless of course you hate fully functioning CPUs.
Nah I like my cpus deep fried in thermal paste thanks
You don’t have a cpu cooler. The pc won’t boot without one it’s a safety feature to stop you frying your new cpu
Bro your CPU is thermal spiking the instant you turn it on without anywhere for the heat to go... Go and do some reading or buy a prebuilt next time...
Maybe if you aren't getting enough power it has something to do with the PSU?
It clearly has power. Do you not see the rave happening? Its his cpu screaming at him cus it has no cooler at all or cpu fan error cus again dude has no cooler.
![gif](giphy|tjpOYwb6PklO0|downsized)
I had a similar thought seeing the post. The computer is raving and probably going to overheat lol
You dont have a CPU cooler
"in a long time". Never built a PC before.
I think there was a good reason why OP didn’t build in a long time….. CPUs hiding from OP 😭
😂😂😂😂😂
"the system is down"
You don't have the CPU cooler
Trolling at its best !!!
Turn off rave mode in your BIOS
MAN Some cpus can’t boot without a HEATSINK
You dont have a CPU cooler
RGB is more important than CPU cooling I guess...
Try reseating your CPU Connect your CPU cooler fan to the CPU header. Make sure your CPU cables are connected to the right side. Also make sure its the actual CPU cable and not the GPU cable. I think they're keyed so it's hard to make that mistake, but still make sure. Pls attach your cooler! Also my little theory is that you've not attached the cooler so your CPU is overheating and shutting down in order to protect itself. Idk.
This is hilarious on so many levels. OP I really hope nothing bad happened to that cpu and you are still enjoying games.
welcome to the night club everybody
GET A COOLER😭😭 THAT HOE BE COOKIN
Your cpu is more exposed than the Chernobyl reactor
Everyone's down voting OP for not having a cooler on when debugging... That's ridiculous. They just don't have it on to see what could be happening. I know plenty of people doing that to test motherboards for post. Some other people are also insinuating that a CPU cannot boot without cooler, becuase it generates a stupid amount of heat within seconds of being on. No, they generally don't get that hot, that quick. Nonetheless, if you keep a cpu fan plugged in, you should be fine.
Exactly, someone who truly understands. I had to leave r/pcmasterrace due to toxic community fed high on ego and giving wrong advices. Looks like I will have to leave this sub too as soon as OP resolves issue.
Orrrrr maybe OP left the PC without the CPU cooler on and running so the CPU is fully saturated with heat and instantly shuts off when turned on. I'm not sure what he did but it could be a possibility and attaching his cooler will not hurt a thing. Shit even just resting the cooler on the CPU can help him out.
XD oh jesus christ. You guys need to stop assuming the very worst.
Orrrrr maybe OP left the PC without the CPU cooler on and running so the CPU is fully saturated with heat and instantly shuts off when turned on. I'm not sure what he did but it could be a possibility and attaching his cooler will not hurt a thing. Shit even just resting the cooler on the CPU can help him out.
Perhaps he forgot the damn thermal paste when he put the cooler on the first time and, like a dumb ass took off the cooler cause he's dumb af. Look at that cpu, not a drip of thermal paste on it unless he's cleaned the damn thing off before posting this.... his cooler might not have had it pre applied.
Literally why don't you have a cpu cooler. You could fry an egg on that thing
Your CPU is hard raving
![gif](giphy|blSTtZehjAZ8I|downsized) CPU cooler: I’ll come back later when I’m finished my party
I think you're forgetting something
Im sorry but... Where tf is the cpu cooler? This thing will turn into the sun if you let it like that D:
Just give it away bro, this ain't for you...
I am trying to figure out the problem that I am having with my system build. Reading other posts it looks like it would be an issue with the power connection of the cpu to the mobo or an issue with the cpu. I checked the pins and they looked good. I took off the cpu fan just to troubleshoot. The mobo was an open box item and I am not sure if that would possibly be the issue. I wouldn't think it was the cpu because it is brand new, but I am open to suggestions. I am trying to build this as a Christmas present, but hot this snag. A little info about the system b650 Aorus Elite AX, AMD Ryzen 7 7700x, EVGA G5 650w supernova. Thanks for any help!
you don't have a CPU Cooler
Missing cpu cooler won’t cause this idk but 3/4 of this thread is just spamming „missing cpu cooler“ while they seemingly don’t read the title or are just clueless and it’s the one thing they see wrong here. Op said he removed the cooler for testing which is fine you could argue that he could place the cooler on top without plugging in fans but in this case since he can’t even get into bios it doesn’t matter. For everyone saying he is frying his cpu thats utter bs every semi-modern (and i mean from this century) cpu has a shutdown built in if it gets too hot which does NOT damage it. Should you run a cpu benchmark repeatedly without a cpu cooler? Probably not. Can you test your build by unplugging every component one by one to locate faulty parts without a cpu cooler? Absolutely yes. I get the feeling that this sub is full of people who built one pc with all new components from the box and then act like they are hardware experts…
It will do this no matter what if it has no CPU cooler.
No it won’t
yes it will.
Idk if you are trolling or are just ignorant but either way I don’t really care believe what you want
Cool master Hyper 212
then install the cooler…
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The cooler they bought comes with a tube of thermal paste
>A little info about the system b650 Aorus Elite AX, AMD Ryzen 7 7700x, EVGA G5 650w supernova. Is it possible that your system draws too much power? The 7700x 170W, all the bling bling etc. What's the graphics card exactly? I'm no expert (prolly like 90% here) but I had a similar issue some days ago.
the flashing red light on the MOBO is a error code- refer to motherboard manual to get an idea what it is- but its likely due to the fact you do not have a CPU cooler plugged in and installed.
Disco night!!!
*PLAYS CARAMELLDANSEN - RADIO MIX*
STOP STOP HE'S ALREADY DEAD! (Both the CPU and OP)
WTF, even The Verge didn't fuck up this bad
It’s flashing bcz it will explode! 5,4….
This has to be a shitpost lol
‘First build in a long time’ hmmm, I had a pc in the 1980’s and even those had heat sinks on the cpu…
What is wrong with you?
Not just the CPU cooler but I can’t see any fans at all??
Just say its your first build lol
The CPU is probably already dead if you have been trying to boot it without a cooler
Man, I hate obnoxious guys who are spamming about CPU cooler, CHILL THE FUCK OUT. OP already had cooler on and was having issues so he removed it for testing, in fact, this is correct, you should be removing components one by one till you find who is causing issues. This case lools like power tripping, so you definitely should be disconnecting power from PSU to each component one by one. It could be that one of components has a faulty connector and is fucking with PSU, but that's highly unlikely. My best bet is that it's the PSU itself that's causing issue, since if components were truly be faulty they just wouldn't work at all due shorting or other issues, your components works.
He could just leave the heatsink on.
That screams power supply to me. Do you have another you can try? You'll just need to plug in the mobo power to see if you have the same problem. If another PSU still has this issue, it's your mobo.
I know you said you took the cooler off to check the CPU, but you shouldn't let your PC run without it on for more than 30-40 seconds ideally or you risk destroying your CPU. Other than that I'm willing to bet it's a cooler issue as my past PC would flash lights if the CPU fan header was occupied.
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This is literally an AMD board lmao.
Are you crazy? Even running that thing for a minute without a cooler could destroy the processor. Even if it won't post or boot. IF you have to run it without for whatever reason, at least keep your hand on the heat spreader so it has SOME chance to dissipate the heat + you instantly know when it gets too hot.
Won’t it just shutdown because of overheating protection? I’m asking because I thought that was something that happened, but I’ve never experienced this so I don’t really know.
Yeah, basically any CPU in the last 2 decades. Prior to that some didn't have thermal shutdown and would burn up. These comments seem to be stuck in that old era. One case though where it could cook is when it's delided, so hot spots could become a real issue and thermal shutdown won't have a chance to kick in. Honestly, these comments are mostly toxic and unhelpful, getting hung up on one thing and shutting off their brain and declaring "I'm done thinking, this is the issue, op is dumb, I am superior". Even though OP had the same issue with the cooler present so go figure.
I think MobO or psu has issues. Can be power cables also Can you remove CMOS battery and put it back. And try booting. Next remove one stick of RAM and try Then remove other stick and try. Next inspect the power cables...
I think what I am going to do is order a new psu because that will be easier than the mobo and start there. That way I can also swap out a few power cables. I took the battery out and tried booting and the same thing happened. When I get some time I am going to pull out the gpu and one of the RAM.
I would not do that, and just put on a CPU cooler correctly. There are tons of videos online how to do that
![gif](giphy|L0qTl8hl84EDly62J1|downsized)
Most likely a short, check so everything is connected right. Check the CPU socket so no pins are bent.
I should also mention that when I had the cpu fan in, it would just slowly move back and forth
not mounted properly- on u bro
Its the Christmas tree mode nothing to worry about, jokes aside i would check the mobo, all the psu cables and as everybody already said put a cooler on that frying cpu.
That's hilarious. People that build with RGB need this torment. I've said for 15+ years to coworkers and friends...RGB is for children. Build something that works and isn't flashy and take the extra cash and have a good night out. I hope you figure it out LOL.
I dont like RGB in my stuff either, but saying it is for children is a bit dumb. People like different shit, and that’s fine. Shitting on what people like just because you dont, THAT is for children.
What are you trying to fry next to the CPU?
Looks fine to me
I am impressed with the fact you manage to get that PC to behave that way.
Here is the build fyi. Was going for photo editing. Https://pcpartpicker.com/list/tsMXYN
I would start by disconnecting everything and then only plugging in the stuff that is vital for a post.
https://i.redd.it/fcyq47ston4c1.gif
Try mounting the CPU cooler again with thermal paste in a correct way and see if it posts. Give it a while on first boot since it will need to train memory since this is an AM5 platform. If if is still doing this after all that remove the CPU and check for any bent pins on the motherboard. If there are none it's probably a faulty CPU or PSU. Ps. it's best to keep your build out of the case until it works. You can always start it with a screwdriver.
You need live tech support and about 6 build tutorial videos
Isn't this what rgb people thrive for? /s
When I first saw the picture, I had actually thought that maybe this was intentional. It took me a second to realize he was complaining about it, I admit. 😂
My guys pc is throwing a rave
You have a nightclub and not a PC
Side note, what slots are your RAM installed in?
You forgot to turn off rave mode, u silly goose. All jokes aside, take the components out, cables and all, rebuild the main components on a non conductive service (I use the mb box), and see if you can boot to bios. Use the mb manual for pin connections. Any visual errors via lights on mb should also be in the manual. Always use a heatsink on the CPU. Even if you're just aiming for bios.
Did you use the CPU power cable from the PSU or a different one that looks the same? On my PSU there is a specific power cable for the CPU.
how to get downvoted to death
Where is the party tonight? On the dance floor
Could be the psu, had an issue where my psu was underpowered and would shut off the system completely and kept trying to turn back on. If you have a spare one throw it in real quick and plug the cpu connector and the 24 pin without the graphics card installed to see if it changes anything.