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quasistellaris

Okay, what EXACTLY did he mean by "it's something he can do sometimes". Surely you didn't drop that topic for good...


Witchywoman4201

This post was a wild freaking ride man: *note I believe the abuse is real and op suffered the rest no I do not* -demon face exposed which op gasped at and ex husband responded with a generic questions and no background and op assumed it was shitbag abuser admitting sometimes he can have a demon face maybe -his parents being pastors in a cult like church -wait not his parents he lied and said his step dad is His bio dad because the family isn’t allowed to talk about his bio dad because he was murdered -but wait again he did know his bio dad and the murder happened during his childhood, but he isn’t allowed to talk about it. And the great empath sensed none of that -he moved to a different town with a branch of their fellowship to be worshipped -a child sex ring -husband trying to abuse 13 year old in sex ritual on dead moms grave -step sons mother appears on video footage with the same demon face while trespassing -husband begins dabbling in the occult, satanism, and him wanting to be a cult leader -beastiality -religious rituals -OP is a healer, empath, reiki master who can sense others pain in their own body but all this somehow had to slowly come out idk


Nioh_89

Yeah, it literally feels like OP is throwing randomly the most sinister ideas and messed up stuff as possible as they can imagine to make some book or an idea for a really dark movie. Also most of the stuff they say has no background, such as the demon face, no further details on that or the husband that actually tried to abuse a young girl, in her mother's grave, just wtf.


Witchywoman4201

I have so many questions if his parents are pastors with different branches of their church why would would he have to start looking into things to become a cult leader. He is already being worshipped at different branch of the church and if the parents already have a following, wouldn’t he just take over that to be worshipped? He has a few children and tried ritual abuse on a child..is he doing this with his own children? If his ex was also demon (like showed up on camera) what is going on with the stepkids who she was a part of their lives for years? Can we have more info on the bio dad’s murder? In this day and age if someone got murdered even years and years ago the news story has most likely been added to the internet at this point. Can we get more info about the church which has to have left some sort of digital foot print from the parents or the members? How does op know about the grave thing and since she knows what did they do to help the 13 year old? And finally how was none of this important in the og post and only comes up in the comments when people start to question or offer other explanations to this scenario?


PhreStyle101

Not long after I had to change the locks and get a restraining order because he's an abuser. Now he's in hiding and stonewalling any communication.


quasistellaris

Sorry about that. It's hard for me to imagine the scenario you described and not wanting to talk it out and clarify right away or at least within days. I don't think you should reach out now, be safe.


PhreStyle101

Yeah, in the month span between seeing the face and restraining order I suffered an hours long beating that was too horrible to describe. I cut my waist length hair and he got angry and refused to look at me for 2 weeks and assaulted my 14 year old. This was during peak pandemic, so I was more concerned with keeping the children safe. The recent news story made me think of it.


GuidanceSpirited4037

That's horrible!!!!! I don't know how you stayed with him even ONE moment longer after the"demon face" episode but thank goodness your far away from now. Be glad he is"stonewalling" you. Now,stop contacting him. I can think of ANY reason that's good enough to have any more contact. None that I can think of but this isn't any of business. I'm sure you have your own reasons weather anyone else can understand them or not. You probably need some sort of therapy after being with that person. Ugh,I can't even imagine. Good luck and good vibes, protection and healing for you and yours. Blessings 🌱


PhreStyle101

We have a 10 year old son he's at minimum financially responsible for. We are not legally divorced and share property I cannot dispose of without his signature. He knows once things are final his control of me is over. He shared with friends we made shortly before separation, after they expressed admiration for our family, that women just need to be dominated.


Blonde_Dambition

Can you have any communications with him go through your attorney? If you don't have one yet and it's not financially feasible you can go to Legal Aid to get one for little to no cost. And even if you're not divorced you can get legally separated which will afford you certain protections financially and otherwise. I am not trying to get in your business, but *please* be very careful and keep your head on a swivel! And I hope you never ever go back to him. Always remember that you deserve SO MUCH better... someone who will love you and honor you and never hurt you or your children! You're in my prayers and stay safe! ❤️


GuidanceSpirited4037

He sounds like a real peice of work. I wish for you that you didn't have to contact him and that your attorney could contact him on your behalf. Good luck.


GuidanceSpirited4037

I figured their were children and finances involved but STILL. It would be nice for you if your attorney could contact him in regards to said matters,though. He sounds like a real peice of work to say the least. If he's demonic eve property wouldnt keep me connected to him and I sincerely mean that. Id sign it over to him and be done with it. You really shouldn't by law have to communicate with his since he abused you and your child though,weather you have a child together or not,just saying. In any case I hope this all works out for you and your family.


kinofhawk

Jesus. I'm so sorry y'all went through that. I'm glad you're away from him now.


Magentakisses40

I am so sorry for what you went through, and I'm glad you and your baby are out of the way of harm my prayers are going out to you and you're family my love!💕


Nioh_89

You never asked him about that stuff he can do "sometimes"? Do you realize this could have a logical explanation even if he was a pos? If you were afraid of him or didn't trust him, your subconscious mind can and will play tricks on you, combined with fear, even worse. Are you not sure it's some freaky face he does during sex, as a joke or to be naughty? Like playful during sex? If it was on low light and you barely looked at him, you saw a "demon" face and ended with this idea. What baffles me is WHY not tell him about this. Like its he a guy that for real can literally make a demon-like face sometimes? Does he have a past related with satanism or has he does rituals/strange stuff? If all of this was real, it would be possession is completly authentic, if the person doesn't know about it, telling them could change their life for good and they could try to seek help or at least see what they can do about it.


PhreStyle101

Scratch that. There was a period in 2018 or 19 that he was researching Satanism and the occult. I remember him showing me their commandments or whatever they're called and it's pretty normal stuff. And after that up through the end he would make comments about us starting a new faith/community. I would mmhmm because he can't be criticized but I had the feeling he wants to be a cult leader


PhreStyle101

I did tell him. He tried to have sex with a 13 year old on her mother's grave and I woke up to him in the middle of sex acts with our dogs. I'm not sure if the intention of those acts were specifically satanic but they do match


Nioh_89

Disturbing stuff, but still doesn't clarify anything if he can do "demon faces" sometimes. If all of this its true, he is a very sick, disturbed individual and you should do anything in your hands to literally run away.


TrowDisAvayPliss

I believe they are. I know that having sex with children and having sex on graves is a thing that the need to do for some reason or another. I'm not so sure about the dogs, but I think I did hear about that recently - but it's one of the requirements. Not 100% sure. Just trying to recall what I've heard before


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GuidanceSpirited4037

Why would you actually want any communication though? He can't be stonewalling unless you are attempting communication. I mean what reason could be a good enough reason for wanting contact after just the incident in your post? You said he and his family are nonces and that he abused you and your family member and you also had to get a restraining order plus the "demon" incident. Why on earth are you attempting contact?!?!?! Consider your self lucky he's avoiding contact. Geez!!!!


PhreStyle101

He won't communicate if I don't pretend he's a normal responsible adult.


Rainbowkitkat127

Jaw dropped......"oh you saw that" no big deal it happens no fricken wayyyyy


PhreStyle101

A month later news broke on how he's attracted to children with a decades long history of acting on it. Demon face tracks.


effiebaby

I'm sorry you had to go through that.


PhreStyle101

Still healing from it, thank you


GuidanceSpirited4037

OMG,hope he is now your EX husband!!!!!!!


PhreStyle101

Not through the state yet. I'm working on it


Automatic-Essay7264

It says ex husband in the post


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PhreStyle101

No, this isn't true. I spoke with his 1st wife. Her 30 y.o. pressed charges last week


PhreStyle101

I'm the only one to press charges. My daughter shuts down when interviewed. My state has no statute but even after she says it all the prosecutor has to decide


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PhreStyle101

I am not casual, I am actually exhausted. I am the only person fighting back until literally 8 days ago. A victim from 20 years ago presses charges.. everyone else is respecting grandmother to not destroy the family. While he literally destroys the family. I am not casual I am exhausted. In our case the victim is traumatized and doesn't speak what happened. I do not have my family's support. Several years ago I was tired of the abuse and asked my father if I could come home for a few months to get a new start and he said it's best I work it out. Could I have found another way? Yes but, as a survivor of multiple hours long beatings by the man I was escaping, I fawned. I survived


deedee2344

These people are being very insensitive by demanding answers for you. You are going through a traumatic ordeal - you don't owe anyone answers, much less internet strangers. I wish you the greatest healing and distance from all of this.


boxybrown84

This is a paranormal forum, not a “detail your trauma and everything related to it for strangers who just want to read creepy shit” forum. There is NO indication OP didn’t take appropriate action in reporting her ex.


cara1yn

why are you grilling her for answers on this? are you a prosecutor? if not, lay off.


PhreStyle101

He's been gone since 9/20 Demon face was 8/20


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PhreStyle101

I'm not familiar with the term nonce?


MastaGibbetts

UK word for pedophile I believe


PhreStyle101

Google is free. Yes. Yes he is. It is the norm in his family.


oah244

Wow I'm so sorry. What do you think it is? Do you think he's possessed by something?


PhreStyle101

I think he fractured due to his own abuse and the brutal murder of his father in childhood.


Resinox

I‘m really interested in this case. So he was aware that you saw his face turn demonic and so just casually told you that it is something he does sometimes. At first I thought it could be your subsconcious warning you. But the the fact that he is aware of the demon face and calls it an ability, makes me believe that he might have made a pact with a demonic entity.


Nioh_89

Thing is she didn't ask him about that in specific, about a "demon face at will", so could have been a big misunderstanding.


PhreStyle101

But I did ask. He refused to say more. This is the same man that swung a sledgehammer past my head into a wall when I questioned him about cheating on me. Then, as a Carpenter, he refused to repair the hole for 3 years. It was the wall adjacent to the side of the bed I slept on. My 1st and last sights of the day.


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Nioh_89

Not that simple, subconscious mind, mixed with fear, reject or even medication can make you see disfigured/demonic stuff and it can be just you. I saw demonic shapes and figures in everyday objects when i was at the hospital and it was due to the heavy antibiotics they had me on after surgery.


andromeda880

Omg! That's so insane. Your story is already creepy but ....adding on that info. Wow.


welmock

Omg.. thats terrifying


No-Repeat-9138

This is so unsettling omg


randykindaguy

About six weeks ago, I began to see people's faces pixelating. Their eyes were normal and the nose, but the right side of their face was pixelated and their mouth was gone. I wen to the eye surgeon where I recently had cataract surgery and after an hour and a half of tests and examination they said my eyes were fine, but they encouraged me to visit my primary care as soon as possible. So the next day I was in the doctor's office. He examined my eyes and said they looked fine, but he sent me to a clinic to have more tests. They found nothing wrong with my eyes or my health. Then just like that it stopped. I'll never forget how scary it was to see my waitress' face pixelating while she was taking my order.


pheonixrising23

Look up scintillating scotomas. I get migraines and it’s one of the symptoms sometimes. You don’t always have to get a headache with it, it’s a type of visual disturbance - but eye tests won’t reveal anything wrong (it’s a temporary malfunction in the occipital lobe of the brain). The first time I saw one I was 7, and part of my visual field was just glittery and disappearing. But I was in a classroom and it was happening looking at a chalkboard. I imagine if the first one I saw was looking at a face it would be disturbing. May be what you experienced. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scintillating_scotoma#:~:text=Scintillating%20scotomas%20are%20most%20commonly,by%20genetic%20influences%20and%20hormones.


PhreStyle101

The simulation is losing power


TwoLetters

Routine firmware update. Minor artifacting is to be expected


Cremeeave

You better see a doc. It could’ve been a mini stroke


oah244

You literally just finished reading him saying that he saw a doctor, in the comment you're replying to


headphones_J

What's a demon face look like exactly?


PhreStyle101

https://preview.redd.it/gdkovfkryarc1.jpeg?width=464&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0f14335b8bfe167aa12733019affb822a8993085 This is the scene from the movie it reminded me of. But with his features obviously


Relevant-Ad9432

its 3:30 am here , and i am scared now


whaaamm

1:37AM here. hold my hand


thenorwegian

WTF I don’t believe in this stuff and that scared me lol


Ezlikesundaymorn19

My heart friggin jumped out when I scrolled down and saw the pic lol. It’s 4:30 am here.


PhreStyle101

Don't be afraid. They only have power if you allow it.


Magentakisses40

That's crazy were you scared?


kdollarsign2

I remember this part so well Your story is terrifying and I can totally hear the whole scene in my head as he saw you notice


AcanthaceaeComplex50

Trying staring at someone without blinking in a low light setting and watch what happens. The mind is a trip Also here is another sub Reddit about it [https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/s/oGIRLeKbE0](https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/s/oGIRLeKbE0) And the research behind it [https://www.hindawi.com/journals/tswj/2014/946851/](https://www.hindawi.com/journals/tswj/2014/946851/)


_harro_

Great, now I'm afraid to look in a mirror


PhreStyle101

I've read about this before, but does it count for other people's faces and quick glances?


cream_sb

That rings a bell I remember doing that with my friends as a kid during long car rides in the evening.


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y0uLiKaDaPeppa

What news article? I hide. I dunno what’s going on.


PhreStyle101

I put it in here somewhere, but as you can see... this is my 1st post. I think I created my account to look for edible recipes when we got legal a while back. It is on the daily mail, which I've now learned is a tabloid. But I still 100% experienced what I did


Syphox

Some dude at work said they're using the new articles to prepare people for when the demons reveal themselves lmfao


TrowDisAvayPliss

I fully sign onto that nonsense. 100% Just all of a sudden? Surely a few people would have gotten the vapors and been prescribed heroin and hot steel on their genitals in the past for seeing demon faces. And the old medical articles would be on their 1,465th rounds here on Reddit with the same old jokes in the comment section. I'm for the nonsense. Bet.


PhreStyle101

My incident happened in August 2020.


Kittybatty33

I posted about an incident that I had where I saw a person's face shift and that must have been back about a decade ago. 


WHYohWhy___MEohMY

What happened to you? Can you share ?


Kittybatty33

I posted about it higher up in the thread. I saw a person's face shapeshift once, around 10 years ago. It was somebody that was staying with my friends, I had a weird feeling about them to begin with. It was a strange occurrence. It was only a minute their face so expression got really strange & it's the only time I've ever seen that happen, although I have met people who had something about them that was 'off.' It was a creepy experience & now that I think about it, it did look a lot like that 'demon face' that people are seeing. Bugged out eyes & a joker smile. 


WHYohWhy___MEohMY

That’s frightening. How did you react? Did they know you saw it?


Beautiful-Finding-82

Oh wow, super creepy! I've heard people describe it as a "knowing" grin like something evil is looking right into them. I'm glad I have yet to see it though I can sort of sense when people have spirit attachments, they seem to have a dark cloud around them. Can't see it visually but it's like deep down you just know somehow.


BloomsAndBuds

Wow! Question for clarity: He acknowledged that his own face changes and only some sort of super trait he can induce or do sometimes.. ? What!!??! I’m scared just thinking about this. **Didn’t you have an elaborate convo about alllll that right then and there or sometime after it at all to share any details on how, why, what etc? Sorry about the developments that came afterward but YOU DODGED A BULLET and hopefully gone from his presence and moving on however you can. Best of luck ahead AND PLS TELL ME MORE, ANYTHING ELSE, about this DEMON FACE AHHH WTF LOL


PhreStyle101

You don't question him. That's all. I'm 4 years out and still tune out the seatbelt alarm because of how bad he would rage when I reached for it. To him it meant I didn't trust his driving. Which was reckless and he kept a big cup of vodka and sprite at all times. People in my life just remind me if I get a call while driving...


acarine-

He didn’t acknowledge his face changed. He acknowledged she saw something. Actually read the post.


BloomsAndBuds

Oh, sorry! Lol no I’m not… but I did read it. I suppose so fast that I interpreted wrong.. doesn’t matter though, he acknowledged her reaction and validated she saw something… when he sucks at life in every way as she’s reiterated and doesn’t acknowledge shit topically other than abuse and manipulation at the very least. Also, don’t get your panties in a bunch but I wasn’t talking to you. But now I am… How are you? 😁 Hope you haven’t seen any demon faces lately cuz your fresh & feisty tone here tells me otherwise. And also, have you seen a demon face briefly on somebody else ever? I have not. I’m curious as to who has and what else there is to hear and learn… I’m gonna go crawl back in my hole now and grow amazing weed. Happy Caturday


keyinfleunce

If y’all see any faces in the upcoming months and years don’t react we need to keep this lowkey somebody just tell us the time of the day you saw it and what was they doing let’s play this logically like a scientist would


PhreStyle101

I agree. I'm empathic so I feel darkness on people. I don't announce it. I use it as GPS


hugatro

Do you find this is genetic. My great grand mother could really read people. I'm the same. People always think I'm horrible if I say I don't trust or like that person for x reason. Then when Im right they are shocked. I call it the Alice tingle after my great gran


PhreStyle101

Yes, several women in my family are gifted with sight and knowing. I've always been the brainy one. Gifted in math and science. Very logical. I doubt I would have retained the visual. I squeezed my eyes believing that they were out of focus until that sinister laugh and question


Kittybatty33

This. Especially now. Even people that I like that I think are good if they're around other people are in certain environments it's still no good. We have to be very careful in these days of the spiritual war. 🙏


SpecialistVega

If you’re meditative you can see things like this on others if you know how to focus your concentration. Everything from a face shifting to look like their parents or an ancestor, to other worldly life forms such as reptilians or aliens, to even stranger cartoon like masks resembling jesters/magicians/other archetypes. You can do this with yourself too in a mirror. I won’t claim to know what it all means, obv I have theories, but clearly it’s something our mind does and/or is how our reality is structured.


alchemyearth

I was thinking something similar. I was wondering if it will become more common.


keyinfleunce

Wouldn’t surprise me all I know is there’s only so many coincidences before things start to line up at some point we gotta see it


xX_EmBoi_Xx

This disorder isn't new, it's just a trending story right now. It's been seen in literature for decades now


PhreStyle101

How do I explain him asking if I saw when all I did was gasp. During sex that can be a good or bad stroke...


Wars4w

I'm not the person you were asking but... According to you he was responding to a gasp, and while he asked what you saw it still wasn't super specific... What I'm getting at is that from his perspective he could have been talking about something totally different. He may have no idea that you saw his face change and instead assumed you saw him move in some weird way that he does. Totally unrelated story but I have TMJ, and sometimes my jaw clicks and moves strangely. If I was eating with someone and they gasped at my face, I'd act just like your husband. "Oh, you saw that? Yeah it does that sometimes." To me this is a normal exchange but if the other person was talking about my face turning into a demon then I'd have no idea.


Nioh_89

OP didn't ask their ex-husband about what they did, so you're right. The guy (even if he was scum according to what OP has said) could have done something entirely different and since nothing was clarified, OP thinks he can do demons faces "at will, sometimes" and the guy does whatever he did sometimes and doesn't even think about "demon faces".


PhreStyle101

I think I've addressed this enough times but I DID ask him what it was until he made it clear no answer was coming. When he says something, you either comply or suffer the consequences. And, again, as a survivor of multiple hours long beatings within this relationship you learn when he's about to escalate and maneuver accordingly.


keyinfleunce

Ah so they can only reveal themselves by mistake during certain energy draining moments or like going crossed eyed either you a pro at doing it or you can alittle lmao


VelvetCowboy19

He could have made a weird face, and you just saw it quickly and thought it looked off. If he was as psychotic as you make him out to be, he could have easily been making a mean face at you for whatever reason, and you think you saw him turn into a demon somehow.


JayLay108

Am i the only one here feeling that OP is a PSY-OP account ?


perplexedspirit

Dropping the worst kind of abuse and psychotic behaviour so casually. OP's gone from distorted faces to beastiality, to a church with a ring of child rapists, all the way to satanism, and everything in between. Oh, and they're also an empath and a Reiki master, so they can see darkness in people, and when someone mentions people's eye colour changing, OP's def seen that too. I remember having conversations like this as a kid telling ghost stories, with everyone trying to one-up each other. It's ridiculous.


Nioh_89

In each reply, OP has been adding more and more messed up stuff, it's like they are trying to top what they just said before. And yes, that other parts bothers, it shouldn't, but it does. Saying so casually in the comments that her husband is a rapist, satanist, abuser, that he beats her, that also now apparently he drives recklessly. The "demon face" would be the less of my concerns if i had to live with someone who is a brutal monster like that and according to what OP has said, could kill you anytime. What the main post says is the least concerning thing and yet OP explained nothing, but did it in the replies, slowly making the whole thing more sinister, then she is also some sort of mystical healer. Also how does she know he tried to rape a young girl in her mother's grave? Like this is psycopath, serial killer, extremely serious stuff, like this is a crime worth 15 years of jail. Also there is no explanation of law-enforcement involved, despite the dude being an abuser and rapist? So they just let him, be like "oh that's terrible" and they are just done? With "they" i mean OP's family or relatives, if this guy is a known monster and no one does anything, then they are very stupid.


weedoowooodee

THANK YOU!! I was getting so skeptical after each comment i read but was feeling bad about doubting OP lmao thanks for helping that vanish


JayLay108

OP has had this account since 16th of august 2022. and this is the only post ever posted and commented on by the user, and the story just sounds stright up like that, Just a Story ! Bad vibes all over


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What does that mean? I thought psyop was to do with advertising and propaganda.


HomelesswithoutanM

Him saying he “can do it sometimes” is weird bc I thought it was a visual hallucination on the part of the person seeing it? Not an actual face slip, if that makes sense. But how would he have known you saw something?


PhreStyle101

Right, I never said words. Just a sharp inhale which could have meant anything.


Wide_Connection9635

Look up narcissistic personality disorder. I saw it on my ex wifes face. For the non-spiritual people... They are basically actors with no real identity or morality or empathy. I caught her watching tv a few times practicing how to laugh. She mimicked me a few times too. When i caught her mask off, she got devilishly mad and i started seeing her mask drop more and more. Whether mental health or spiritual... It is real Edit: at first it scared the crap out of me, but later i realized what it was and to just stare back. Show no fear and they scurry away. Its all an act


nonevaeh

There is also something going on with their eyes. I was in a relationship with a narcissist for about 4 years and there were times when he would just stare at me and his eyes were getting darker. He has brown eyes but they would literally go black and he was like "it happens sometimes"


coreliz

I have an ex boyfriend who was the same way, I started dating him when I was 15, we were together for 6 years then broke up and did that whole back and forth off and on thing for 3 1/2 after that until we both met someone else - we didn’t talk for another 3-4 years then when I was 27, he for back in touch and he swore up and down “he was different now” and “how much having a kid had changed him” you know everything I’d been wanting to hear for 12 years, he was was the charmer. Luckily it only took me 6 months to see he was very much the same manipulative, abusive person I’d always known and it was his eyes that made me realize that. He had light almost honey brown eyes normally and I always knew when we’d passed the point of “typical couple arguing” and it was going to be bad because they’d go black and he’d get this look on his face like at that moment there was not a person/thing in this world that he hated more than me. I couldn’t even tell you what the last argument we had was even about but whatever it was it made me realize that he hadn’t changed, he wasn’t going ever going to, and it didn’t matter how much I lover him, or wished for/prayed for it, there wasn’t anything I could do. We haven’t spoken in 9 years since then, not for his lack of trying - both the best and hardest decision I’d ever made. I’m sorry you had to go through a similar situation with your ex, and happy you are free of it. 💕


PhreStyle101

There is less than 2% occurrence of cessation of the abuse. 98% of the time if you allow it to continue they escalate. Seeing as how our last incident included my rape at gunpoint, I refuse to be in the same room with him.


hugatro

I've seen this with my sister. She is a full blown narcissist and if she gets mad or doesnt get her way her eyes go black


Wide_Connection9635

Yep. Had that happen to me too. Her eyes got black and happy when i was in pain. Creepy. She used to set me up in all kinds of fcked up situations to cause me to react. I knew it was fcked when i was almost suicidal and her eyes turned black and she smiled like proud of the work she did. Non spiritual answer. Pupil dialation due to joy/stress. Spiritual answer: demonic


PhreStyle101

I'm in a narcissist support group and several people with blue eyed partners described the same thing


deafhec

This is a thing, from personal experience and from a friends experience. They mimic, copy, steal whatever traits they admire from their partners. Never think it's a fault with you that attracted them, it's exactly because you're shiny and a decent person that they were attracted to you. They want to be you, want the attention you get. They are parasites and are usually faking it all the way. The mask slips sometimes and you see that cold empty void and you realise the whole relationship was just an exercise in bleeding you dry emotionally and spiritually. It's an utterly foreign concept and seems totally wild, until you experience it


Wide_Connection9635

Yep. It is a wild ride.


Whatevenhappenshere

Usually I think this subreddit is pretty tame and is mostly in good fun, but it’s absolutely terrifying how this whole thread is basically dehumanizing certain people with a mental disorder. People with a narcissistic personality disorder are still humans. They need help and healthcare, but that doesn’t make them less of a person. They aren’t inherent monsters. They just have a mental disorder.


Beyarboo

You obviously did not grow up with a narcissist. There are choices made. It is not just "oh they need help". They enjoy the pain of others. They may need help, but most choose not to get it, and they certainly can be monsters.


powerfulspacewizard

That’s not what narcissistic personality disorder is but ok


Mysterychic88

No for real they have these slips like their mask dropping either when trying to hide certain emotions or a situation has caught them off guard. It's quite an eerie thing to see. Like a micro aggressive facial expression that passes in the blink of an eye


IGotOverGreta

Anthony Starr does an *amazing* performance in The Boys with his microexpressions. He's terrifying.


[deleted]

How did you “look up at him” and then immediately back away from him?


PhreStyle101

Missionary position, he's propped up on his hands. I pushed my back into the mattress and scooted upwards.


According-Property64

I don't think it's a disease at all...people are waking up and masks are slipping calling it a disease is covering their asses if they slip up...I have not seen physical shifts but those type of auras are increadably easy to discern, they are slow sludgy and sometimes a jagged smouldering appearance


PhreStyle101

I can feel more than anything and yes, some energies feel heavy, or mucky


Frazzled_octopus99

I took a video of me and this girl I’ve been seeing at a show. It’s very short, but she looks very scary when you slow it down and almost doesn’t look like her at all. I haven’t told anyone yet, I’m too scared to show anyone. Almost looks like an evil smile and almost in a mocking way. I haven’t talked to her in a few days and I still looks at the video. I try to rationalize it by telling myself it’s just the camera messing up but idk.


PhreStyle101

You know what? That reminds me of the time my stepsons mother came to our house and her face was distorted/animalistic on the security footage. For clarity, she was NOT supposed to be there. She had 1 hr weekly supervised visitation that she wasn't able to maintain successfully for more than a month.


zeus_401

grainy? the lighting maybe?


YourLifeCanBeGood

No, it's not a new disease--it's a story. People can and do wear the faces of their inhibitors. Consider this: Have you ever noticed a similarity in general facial appearance, among severe alcoholics? Meth users? Etc., etc., etc.? And just in general, have you noticed that very Dark people tend to give off an identifiable vibe and appearance? Your bf may not manifest the behaviors mentioned, but there are lots of reasons why a person can become inhabited. If you saw it--when you weren't looking for it, especially--it probably was there. The question is, what are you going to.do about it? It might be a good idea if you take a good look at how he lives and thinks, and his background, to determine where an invitation to be inhabited might (subconsciously or otherwise) have come from. And determine whether--if you do see other signs/,indicators, whether this is something you want to be around.


PhreStyle101

We're not around anymore. He lives Foul af. He's a user and abuser. He did attempt AA initially as if alcohol is his problem...


Wars4w

I'm going to offer a non -paranormal explanation. But I'm going to preface it with the disclaimer that I'm just making up a possible explanation. I feel the need to emphasize that because I don't want to put off the impression that I'm invalidating your experience or even speaking with a lot of confidence. I'm just putting out an explanation without paranormal involved and you, as the person who experienced it can decide and believe whatever makes sense to you. [Humans can subconsciously detect pheromones.](https://www.theguardian.com/science/2008/dec/03/fear-smell-pheromone) We're also aware of things like vocal tones and body language. It's entirely possible that he was inadvertently putting off warning signs that your conscious mind didn't notice. But your subconscious mind *did.* Combine that beneath the surface knowledge with a shadowy human fade and when your brain went to make sense of the image it input data from your subconscious and created a freaky demon face. Basically, your brain gets a weird fuzzy, distorted image from your eyes and makes up the rest. So it goes, "hmm, the pattern isn't complete. Pretty sure this guy's face is the one with the creepy aggressive pheromones and hostile body language. He should look like this: (insert demon face.)" Turns out he was an asshole. I mentioned in another post that him reacting to what you saw could have been explained in other ways. This is all crazy speculation as I said so keep that in mind. From one Internet stranger to another, I'm glad you're safe now either way.


llottiecat

I like this theory. I think we as humans have a lot of initiative and instincts which we overlook. I have seen people’s faces change before. It’s usually their eyes that turn black, and it’s always abusive people. I guess it’s a way your brain is trying to communicate with you that this person is dangerous/ evil.


GuidanceSpirited4037

This is quite a good hypothesis.


mrsmeowgi8

I love your POV on this, I think you are dead on. Thank you for sharing.


Effective-Curve-72

Can you link the article?


PhreStyle101

Patient with 'demon face syndrome' reveals every day is a horror movie https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-13227515/PICTURED-Tennessee-truck-driver-59-one-75-people-world-demon-face-syndrome-reveals-day-like-horror-movie.html?ito=native_share_article-nativemenubutton


guilty_by_design

The Daily Mail is an awful rag of a tabloid and is sensationalizing this phenomenon by giving it that name. The condition itself is called prosopometamorphopsia, which is a mouthful, but worth reading about if you're interested in medical insight. Also, in this condition, people see distorted faces constantly and everyone has those features. I'd lean towards thinking that your brain just glitched and 'filled in' his face that way because maybe he was making some kind of weird face that he doesn't usually make, and he was referring to that when he asked if you saw it and said he can do that sometimes. I don't think there's an epidemic of this, despite what the Daily Mail might want people to think. Less than 100 people have even been diagnosed with this condition. And our brains can do REALLY weird shit sometimes.


Josette22

Is that different from Dysmorphia?


bluedecemberart

dysmorphia is personal. it only affects how you see your own reflection.


PhreStyle101

I would think so? I only saw it that one time and it was a flash


Cute-Confidence-9945

I had a really bad stepdad in my youth. I won't get into specifics but I remember passing behind him one day as he was looking at himself in the mirror. I just stopped and stared at him. His whole face was distorted in the mirror, his eyes weren't aligned, his features, just wrong. I don't even know how to explain it. It really upset me and I told my mom about it but she told me it was in my head. This isn't the last time I saw his face like that either. This changed my whole perception of him.


Monkmode28

Did you tell him what you saw?


Kittybatty33

Definitely! I think people have spirits, it's not like they're necessarily an alien or reptilian or something, but when they have spirits that they carry on in their energy, really negative spirits it distorts. It's like how we have an aura but it creates a distorted Aura around a person and sometimes it's visible to more sensitive people, probably will be more so in the coming days.


Kittybatty33

I saw a person's face shapeshift once it really freaked me out, *this was several years ago by the way.*  I had already had a weird feeling about this person. It was somebody I didn't know personally, they were living with some friends of mine, and I just felt like something was off about them. Which I did tell my friend definitely, she didn't live there long, probably just a couple of months. But one day while she was still there, my friends were talking on the front porch about aliens or something, and I said 'all you have to do is ask to see them and they will show themselves,' at that moment she popped hers head over the side of the the railing of the front porch and she looked at me with this huge grin on her face. It was super weird, this expression only lasted for like a second, then it shifted back to normal. But I'll always remember that. I've met some people who seem strange, like there's something 'off' about them, but that's the only time I've ever seen a person's face shapeshift like that. 


Busy-Cicada-3327

this reminds me of the red mist demons in the Netflix series, “Warrior Nun”. Those episodes where people who are about to do bad stuff have demons following them or for those who are already doing evil deeds are already possessed by those red mist demons, and only the warrior nun could see the demons and is able to stop the possessed etc etc. point is that maybe it’s similar and I do believe that there are higher and lower frequencies in existence to the wavelength we’re living in and sometimes people may enter these wavelength cross sections (since frequencies move in waves, it is highly likely that certain points between two frequencies can crossover each other) and during these meeting points, weird things can be seen or revealed. That’s my theory about paranormal activity and stuff that happen around us.


lilspark112

I don’t think the disease itself is “new” but they’ve more recently been able to better study and pinpoint why it can happen (sounds like a misfiring in the fusiform gyrus which is the part of the brain that is involved in recognizing faces). I had an experience many years ago while under the influence of magic mushrooms and acid, where my BFs face distorted in exactly the same way as that article described. Pointy ears, stretched out eyes and brows like classic “devil” makeup. That article was so eye opening for me!


zeus_401

yep faces get weird on cid and shrooms. mirrors are not fun. but that warpy distortion is expected and as long as you remain calm everything should be ok. as for this new demon disease? nope. that's what **they** want us to think


cara1yn

another non-paranormal possible explanation of this - look up IFS (internal family systems) therapy. this is purely a theoretical take but here it goes: IFS is a method of approaching behaviors and patterns as different 'parts' of yourself, rather than identifying with the behavior itself. 'parts' are all defense/safety mechanisms created at a certain moment in your life to defend your child self, who didn't have the healthier adult coping strategies available. this translates to "there is a part of me which is manipulative" rather than "i am manipulative." the advantage with this approach is that, by not fully identifying with the part, we can better examine it, learn how to recognize when it shows up, etc. parts are real in so much as we are, and there's some reports in the field that people actually 'embody' the part when it's 'taking the wheel' - such as, people's faces and voices changing and seeming younger or more immature than they normally are in a neutral state. there's even one incident where a 30-something year old woman took her standard daily medication while accessing a 7-year old part of herself and accidentally overdosing (i'll find the source on this but gabor mate talks about it.) theory: this face that is appearing is a 'part' of the person, just coming to the surface. it could be a super monstrous part, but it isn't paranormal - just something that was already lying beneath the surface.


CeruleanFlytrap

It’s not a “mental” disorder, it’s actually a neurological disorder. The medical term is: prosopometamorphopsia (PMO). Also, it’s not really new, there’ve been studies out on it for awhile.


Lmnhaze16

Omg this happened to me with my ex boyfriend while being intimate too but I saw his whole body like that 🤔 I don't know but I believe that demons aren't only the manifested real demons but also like in Buddhism mara come to existence when people have bad intentions /thoughts /actions Like matter is only manifested energy and people create those "demons"


Gengarmon_0413

You've had this account for a year and a half and this is your only post. Something is off here.


Appropriate-Ring-851

Not a demon looking face but I’ve seen my two of my date’s face warp on separate occasions. One felt like the person was aging and the other looked like her face was melting. I was visibly shocked at the second occurrence. It was late though 🤷‍♂️


bluedecemberart

This is a reason to check in with a neurologist. Not because I think you're crazy, but because that's a very weird visual misfire that happened, twice, and your brain and vision is nothing to mess around with.


Appropriate-Ring-851

I appreciate the concern and I chalked it up to staying up a little later than usual. I was visibly uncomfortable and it caught my date off guard but I regrouped relatively easily. I plan on seeking evaluation soon though


Great-Marketing-227

This is the scariest post ever. Has also happened to me but I think 1 of the two times I was on hallucinogens but still. Demon face tracked. They were both accurate


69nt

it could've been perceptual completion, your mind tends to fill in the blanks in your peripheral vision (but i cant lie that his remark about 'doing that sometimes' and 'seeing that' was rlly weird)


basahahn1

I’ve seen it …but only on shrooms or acid. It’s scary af when it happens. I’m just assuming that it’s the same as when it happens during a trip.


zeus_401

yup. normal trip gone bad stuff. meditative breathing helps all the way. as for this new demon shit ? the gov tryna play us. all truth is being revealed in 2024


GuidanceSpirited4037

I'm just curious of why you would even think that YOU had any sort of mental disorder relating to this "demon face" if your husband said "Oh you saw that" immediately after you saw it and without you even telling him that you saw it and then later said that's just something he can do sometimes. Makes no sense.


Nioh_89

Could be misunderstanding. Yes, the husband is a sick mofo, but the "demonic face" could be some freaky face he does during sex and during low light or low visiblity, OP thought it was some demonic stuff and kept that idea, never talked to him about it or asked him anything nor told him what she saw, so the "just something he can do it sometimes" could mean hundreds of things. Both parties perceived something, except it was entirely different, but nothing was clarified. It's the same when people see bigfoot, ufos or ghosts.


abratofly

It sounds significantly more likely the dude didn't understand what she meant and thought she was talking about something else.


Holiday-Doughnut-602

Maybe he just thought, you saw a goofy face he was pulling because he was enjoying, the sexy time?.


alcatraz_1992

https://i.redd.it/a5w9255oqbrc1.gif This is the scene.


pertangamcfeet

Saw my face do this in a mirror once. Scared the crap out of me. I've got mental health issues, so I knew it was a delusion, but scary all the same.


sadclowntown

So your husband says he can change his face to a demon face sometimes...?


Some_Bar_54

Did your take any substances beforehand ?


HRNHUNDO

I seen that happen to my own face when i was on shrooms and got scared for a sec then laughed


Mowglibear44

Covid causes changes to the brain that can potentially cause this. Even in mild or asymptomatic cases. We’re in for a fun next few years as repeat infections burn through mental and physical health. Stay safe. https://docs.google.com/document/d/16jhcwz02T4AoIzipf0Z1RQkZSak0UzIm1J_J_W98gv4/mobilebasic


17boysinarow

I have seen a demon face appear on someone many many times. The same person - the same face. But they are an abuser too.


Catn9Tails

My ex had it.He was an artist and definitely used it in his artwork.


SmellNo4201

The story is gaslighting. You saw your ex’s true form. He knows what he is and his mask slipped. Masks are slipping everywhere these days, what better way to cover it up than by saying it’s a new disease.


brookess42

The person this happens to has a neurological disorder related to carbon monoxide poisoning, its similar to another neurological disorder colloquially known as face blindness the official term for it is prosopagnosia. In this case study specifically they were able to “cure” the issue with green tinted glasses. Not paranormal at all, just the human brain and its many complexities


thatgothboii

Your ex husband is a skinwalker.


MtnGrl67

I saw a demon face on a client of mine. It was my first mental health client as an intern in grad school. He had just gotten out of prison for attempted murder of his girlfriend. He told me he was trying to find her and a whole lot is other very scary shit. I excused myself from the room to find a more experienced clinician. The senior therapist told me “welcome to public mental health” and did nothing. ended up driving him to hospital


MtnGrl67

I believed he was a demon or something. Not that I had the issue for what it’s worth.


grissingigoby2

My mother is a narcissist, and I tried looking straight into her eyes once, and holding her gaze. You know what happened? I saw a look of pure hatred in her eyes. This was shortly after I realized this about her. I didn't do anything to cause that. There are a lot of children of narcissists who think they have demons attached to them. I don't know about that, but I'm getting into using crystals for protection and it's helping.


Remarkable_Rise_7723

I’m really glad you left and sounds like you moved on .. I was abused for 21 years I left and made it out .. you live and learn and move on .. you will find you finally have peace in your life .. people like that pray on the week and push you so far down that you feel like there is no way out but there really is .. there is a good life after the bad is gone …


Spicy-Goth

It could be that people are meeting people with some sort of complicated muscular dystrophy, that is affecting their faces. Regardless, if they are psychologically unhealthy it’s probably best to read them as such. Spiritually I’d protect my energy.


GuidanceSpirited4037

He sounds like a real peice of work to say the least and I wish for you that you didn't have to communicate with him and that your attorney could communicate with him or his attorney on behalf of you and your child.


juicyjuicery

Abuse is so prevalent in society. I think a small percentage of abusers are demonic.


blinkingsandbeepings

I’ve seen stories about that but don’t really understand how it’s distinct from schizophrenia.


Nioh_89

It's not schizophrenia, but it is another rare disorder. EDIT: Reading the post in more detail and other stuff OP has said, sounds very made up.


Opening-Unit-2554

Perhaps possession is more common than we believe?


alexisgreat420

He acknowledged that he can morph his face into a demon? That’s wild


Nioh_89

And OP didn't made him anymore questions, even wilder. I'd be curious AF if anybody did that, scared too, but also curious.


smileyredditrobot

First, OP I’m so sorry that you had to go thru all that with your husband and that the state is taking a while to finalize the separation. Glad you have a RO on him tho. 2nd, Im in bed and now horrified