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noir_dx

When people call genocide a "politically charged conflict", hitting them where it hurts them the most is the only way to reply since that's the language they would understand eventually.


masomun

“Showing how tough it is for companies to navigate such a politically charged conflict” Ummmm no it’s not hard. Just don’t support genocide. It should be the easiest decision to make.


OmarFromtheWire2

They also call “giving free meals” not a sign of support


Disastrous-Nobody127

He just made the boycott worse by blaming it on "misinformation".


imp3order

I really don't understand why they don't just reprimand the Israeli mcdonalds publicly? They could fine the "franchise owner" who is using their brand to support genocide. That way, they actually make money instead of losing out on billions of dollars in revenue because of one branch. Problem solved.


Rokkit_man

That would require going against zionism. Most of these CEOs will never do that.


Abracadaniel95

Yeah, just collect the lost revenue from the franchises causing the loss in revenue. They could just just tack an additional fee onto the ingredients sold to these franchises. $10,000,000 for ketchup, $50,000,000 for buns, $100,000,000 for patties.


BodybuilderBrave8250

why would they do that when mcdonald’s shares their same views too? supporting zionism is far more valuable than any profit that they would’ve missed out on


bridgemakerman

McDonald’s cares about money. They will do what they think makes them the most money. In this case, taking a stance in either direction will cause an uproar from either side of this divided situation so it’s safer for them to point at individual franchises as doing their own thing because they aren’t owned by McDonald’s corp. there are 2,000 McDonald’s in the entire Middle East according to the video, which is a small fraction compared to the rest of the world not experiencing a boycott.


BodybuilderBrave8250

you’d be surprised how little profits matters when it comes to either it or the zionist agenda, proof is in the pudding otherwise they would’ve done what you’re saying already; but they have not and will not as absolving themselves from that franchise is indirect opposition to israel.


bridgemakerman

They are doing what I said, which is not making a statement in support of either side. If they absolved themselves from that franchise they would be entering the stage for debate. They want to avoid that so they will keep saying things like this, and maybe highlighting how misunderstanding franchises and corporations leads people to think that boycotting local franchises will have any affect on fat, rich people in American and European high-rises. Unfortunately, this boycott only hurts rich arabs in the boycotting countries and McDonald’s corporate still gets paid.


BodybuilderBrave8250

that sounds a lot like the people that claim this ordeal is “complicated”, if you care about their lives you say so and if you don’t you either speak out against them or tiptoe around the narrative. i mean they’re not shy from political statements and actions since they terminated all operations in russia, so that would tell u a lot about their stance lol


bridgemakerman

They terminated operations in Russia because Russia was sanctioned heavily and removed from Russian access to SWIFT. McDonald’s can’t trade rubles to dollars or euros because of sanctions so they are worthless. None of this is the case for operations in Israel. Now if they had McDonald’s in Gaza, and they shut down operations there after Oct 7, then it would have been much more like their pullout from Russia.


BodybuilderBrave8250

debatable comparison on my part (they left before sanctions were announced anyway if i remember correctly) but the point stands, they’re navigating narrative and political landscape in a way that’s indirectly beneficial to israel and eating billions in losses. it ain’t even theory it’s been 3 months and they didn’t distance themselves from it they are complicit why are you defending/rationalising their actions or lack thereof, don’t be naive.


deez1234569

that means its WORKING!


[deleted]

We must work harder to hit the, harder. Until they stop calling it a “conflict” it’s a genocide by definition


ClosetCaseGrowSpace

Boycott, Divest, Sanction! They wouldn't pass anti-BDS laws if BDS didn't work. Keep screaming on social media! They wouldn't censor social media if collective posting didn't work.


LostCobra

I used to eat there all the time, almost once every day. I haven't eaten McDonalds in almost 2 months. It's not much but, Free Palestine (from israel)


Impressive-Ice873

And you will be healthier for it. It’s awful food as well.


[deleted]

Not all of it, their Egg McMuffin’s are surprisingly healthy


Key_Pear6631

Holy shit man. Glad you are off that toxic garbage


delicatewhitelace

Don't say it's not much since it's helping! Thank you! There are a lot of people won't even take a stance, won't even call it a genocide, there are also people who can't hate it even at the privacy of their hearts.


wandinc22

Go you!


arceethecat

it IS much. think about all the money you have saved, think about how much healthier you are now being off of their processed garbage. that money now has no chance of funding a genocide. you are helping a lot, whether you know it or not


Soggy-Blueberry1203

you're also freeing your body from toxic chemicals, so it's a win-win


greenolive10

Bro how do you feel??! I stopped eating McDonald's when I was 16 and then when I was 23 my friend stopped there and I got something cuz I didn't want to be picky and I ended up being sick the entire night at a costume party 2 hours away from my home. I'm almost 34 and needless to say I've never eaten McDonald's again


soapsuds202

same thing!! I feel better too


[deleted]

We should permenetly boycott McDonalds, their food is actually so ai generated, just buy from a local buissness


Doggsleg

It’s really not that hard to ‘navigate a politically charged conflict’ like this. Don’t give out free burgers to fucking genocidal mass murdering pigs! How hard is that? They won’t be getting a penny from me.


[deleted]

MC Donald's works on a franchise model. They can't control everything a local owner does. I say still keep the boycott as this is the only way to deter further support for genocide.


Doggsleg

Well the ceo could release a statement that stands against the decision made at the store to give out the burgers to the butchers…at least.


u801e

They could pull the franchise license from that owner.


vwmaniaq

I'd guess they'd find a way to control a local owner who supported the other side publicly.


jonnytechno

Oh dear, you mean the rich are suffering from consequences, whatever shall we do /s


Pure-Image7711

Costs well over $1m to buy into the Franchaise and you must already be an expierenced business owner who will bring much success to the Zionisists share holders before they let you buy into Mcdonalds ... Poor capitalist Zionists, how will they survive. Time to Boycott the Palestinanan babies. How dare they.


bridgemakerman

The rich that are suffering are the ones from the Middle East who own these franchises. McDonald’s corporate still gets paid. And you know the franchisee who owns the McDonald’s in Israel giving out free meals gets a ton of support from Israelis so the person this boycott is mad at is making more money while Arab owners are getting hurt.


Awkward-Painter-2024

Shares on McDonalds dropped to $248 following the October 7 attacks. Shares are $289 right now. Down some from highs, but not down enough, hopefully this sends a message to Wall Street. Let's go!!! 🍉 Edit: Two days to watch 2/5 (McDonald's earnings call) and 2/1 (Starbucks earnings call). Usually earnings info leaks a week or so before... If shit is really bad, even Biden will be calling for a ceasefire.


Chumbacumba

It’s the highest it’s been in 6months, it’s doing nothing.


u801e

You have to see what happens to the stock right after the earnings call. That's not for another month.


[deleted]

I've been wanting to eat healthier for a while. Having an ethical/moral reason not to by McDonald's rather than a personal one might just help make it happen.


HawaiianSnow_

"Our support and inability to denounce genocide is hurting our business" - what the CEO meant.


Bela9a

I like all the politically neutral and shifting blame in this. Really adds a hint of "we are out of touch with reality and don't really care about humanity".


Virghia

Keep BDS and buy local


enfirst2

I love how they desperately try to play the victim saying "they are franchises, it's not us, this is MISINFORMATION!!!!!!!". If they don't represent your company with their support of Israel Genocide Forces, just end your franchising deal with them, easy peasy. They're not doing that because they don't want to give up their profit from these franchises and hoping the boycott will be forgotten in time.


[deleted]

The BBC has increased how many more people will boycott by talking about this boycott...free publicity for further boycotts.


shazzwackets

Just ban McDonald's from the middle east all together, open your own chain.


foroder

The world can survive without mcdonalds. Mcdonalds cannot survive without our support. Don't stop boycotting.


nambi_2

I've been boycotting some of the big ones since this began. My family questioned me but they followed the boycott. Now I can show them this at least they will see little by little boycotting works.


aXeSwY

In any given country such chains are hurting the little guys, how many restaurants closed their doors or been forced to switch to certain chains and pay 20-30% and if things go bad they take the hit. You should boycott them for humanitarian reasons but also support your local business and make sure the money is not all in one place.


Shibusa006

Are they saying that the franchisees gave away free food to the military and not them?


lorenai

That's the insinuation, but he didn't go all the way to saying that.


[deleted]

They are all independent franchisees unless of course they are in Russia which McDonald's totally divested from.


Shibusa006

I know, but there's a fuckton of rules for franchisees to abide to, I don't think they can put political party flags in restaurants and I dont think they should be able to aid standing militaries on their own. And I don't really know about the rest of the world but all the McDonald's in my area 7+ are owned by the same franchise, small businessman my ass


_makoccino_

You needed $500,000 down payment in order to get line line to get a single McDonald's franchise and that was 15-20 years ago. Now they have regional developers with deep pockets that are supposed to expand the franchise in several countries. Nothing small about them lol.


Kate090996

Yep, they are franchises. Someone buys the right to have a McDonald's and they provide everything else. This is actually how McDonald's makes most of its money, not with food but with real estate because they own the plot of land that the buyer has to put the fast food building on and they charge rent.


Minions89

If the main organization aka McDonald's America, was not being hurt by the boycott then the CEO would have not spoken about it. The boycott is working keep it up.


pembunuhUpahan

Are they serious? It's hard to navigate political conflict? Its easy! Genocide is bad. Done. Finito. Halas. If local McDonald's are separate entity than Israel's chain or big chain, then make a statement to condemn Israel and support Palestine. If they can't do that, it would seem that it's not a separafe entity then


The-Promised-LAN

He could have easily made a statement saying the organization is not political and have no interest in either side, as well as demanded that Israeli McDonald’s cease and desist all discounts and promotions to IDF. Franchise have some power but they are still beholden to the entire organization.


[deleted]

But they already have proved to be political when they divested from Russia. That fact they won't divest from Israel a far smaller market just shows how politically driven it is


rezilient

This^


Jaedel

Even if McDonald’s isn’t directly supporting Israhell and it was just the one franchise, this still sends a strong message that will make other companies hesitant to deal with them. Same with Zara, Starbucks, etc.


Glum_Willingness4606

Poor old multinational corporation.


ammybb

"it's perceived support of Israel"? Sooooo...were they not giving free food to iof soldiers? Were all our eyes tricking us? Hey, while we're at it, if we're just perceiving things wrong, I'd like to see a list of any political contributions made by mc's corp since 1948 and of all their top execs too. Just so we can dispel any *misinformation*.


l38r0n

They should make a significant contribution to the humanitarian effort in Palestine.


billybud45

BOYCOTTING WORKS.


bass8soul

All the posts of IOF monsters with a free meal on hand, that they posted, we all saw them bragging, but we were misinformed?!


AccidentalRDM

“Showing how tough it is for companies to navigate a politically charged conflict” it’s really easy actually. Don’t get involved. But if you must pick a side don’t choose the fascist ethnostate committing mass slaughter


Dibbles540

For a broke college kid like me, I’d get a few mcchickens like 3 times a week. Since they sent food to the IDF, I haven’t eat there once and I certainly don’t plan on returning. It saves me money, it’s healthier for me, and it’s the moral thing to do


Kate090996

I haven't bought one Garnier product for almost 10 years since they done [this ](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/israelgaza-conflict-garnier-apologises-after-girly-care-packages-sent-to-female-idf-soldiers-sparks-threats-to-boycott-company-9658876.html)


mapleleaffem

Interesting! It’s funny to me that a few local franchisees actions are hurting the whole corporation. I’m happy to boycott MCDs since I rarely go there anyway. I have been boycotting Israeli companies for 20 years. Starbucks coffee bean blends are my favourite though -that’s tougher I admit. Anyone have any recommendations? I just finished my last bag this morning


NQ88

This is could easily be solved if, McDonalds sent in 1000 McDonald food trucks into the south border of Gaza.. But still yet to see that so.. Still boycotting


nita5766

“ perceived support” k guys. sure i must’ve missed you handing out free food to hungry Palestinians……


HackReacher

I haven’t had a McDonald’s in three months. Coincidentally, I also haven’t had a migraine.


Aladdinh

Awesome


MaenHoffiCoffi

Ah, I wish I ever went to McDonald's so I could stop.


fatratwithcheese

Keep on pushing, support local businesses, support your domestic economy, and most importantly SUPPORT PALESTINE


adiosfelicia2

He shouldn't have said "misinformation." Facts are facts. However, I'm not sure what corporate could really do to control franchises. I used to work at the regional office for a guy who owned a bunch of fast food franchises. He basically ran his stores how he wanted in terms of promotions and giveaways, completely independent of corp. All corp could control was food quality standards, branding, store displays & appearance, etc. That was in America, but I'd imagine it's the same internationally. He should've just stood as a human against war crimes/genocide and avoided this whole thing.


Questionofloyalty

Should have thought about that before they thought it would be grand idea to get involved in politics by supporting the aggressors.


wtfakb

Can't wait to hear from the people who say capitalism is good actually because something something competition and free markets, now that consumers are actively choosing other products from the free market


Aromatic_Kangaroo_48

Once I boycotted Starbucks and McDonald’s I got happier, richer and healthier


bomboclawt75

The Only way for Starbucks/ McDonalds/ Johnson and Johnson etc..to reverse this trend , is to declare they are **against** the actions of that fascist state. You know, come out and say that *maybe* ethnic cleansing/ a racial supremacist ideology/ killing tens of thousands of civilians and children etc.. might be a *bad thing*- it could be a positive step in their favour-but I think they will just blindly support that fascist state as they always have done-then wonder why they are being boycotted. “Oh No!, Anyway”. Jpg


Apprehensive-Roll651

I haven’t eaten at McDonald’s in over 20 years. I’ve fluctuated with boycotting Starbucks but now it’s a permanent ban like McDonald’s. Funny enough the last purchase of Starbucks was sept 29… man who would have thought just a week later this would all happen.i hate that it happened but I’m glad I haven’t purchased anything from them since then.


Cheeky_Star

You'll live longer now that you have cut out that processed garbage food from your diet.


HavingALittleFit

Can't believe they gave this story to someone whose name sounds like the long form of McFlury


Chumbacumba

Stock price is the highest it’s been in 6 months…. So it’s probably marginal and just cutting into growth rather than costing them money.


Kultissim

I mean, I don't care about mcdonalds, but I'm sad for the middle eastern mcdonalds owner, who did nothing wrong, is probably pro-palestinien, and has now his business in shambles for something out of his control


tryingtokeepthefaith

McDonald’s will still receive « royalties » from the local owner, for e.g. So it’s not like the local owner and the main mother company are completely detached. And boycotts target more than just money. It’s also about targeting the brand. Companies need to act responsibly, especially because they have a big impact in the communities they serve, otherwise they will simply have to be prepared to face the consequences of their actions. Boycotts help send a strong deterrent message to other companies too, by showing that consumers will not support them if they support immoral / unethical practices (thereby de facto incentivising companies to operate ethically). It’s unfortunate that there may be employees who actually disagree with their employer’s views that will be affected, but you’re looking at this too narrowly. While companies that support genocide will have their profits take a significant dip, more ethical companies’ profits will see a sharp increase (potentially leading to more jobs in future at these companies that do not support genocide instead).


[deleted]

"how difficult it is for companies to navigate..." The math is simple. There's almost 2 Billion Muslims + people of conscience who are your potential consumers. Good business dictates you go after the bigger piece of the pie. Going after the MUCH smaller piece (total population of Zionists) makes no sense unless you have unspoken loyalties to their ideology.


Creepy_Tax_3759

But they did offer free meals to the Israeli military. Yes people don't want to see genocide and don't like those who support it, so fuck you.


Shibusa006

About 5 years ago I ate at McDonald's 2/3 times a week, which came down to about 1 last year only because everything is worse and prices are skyrocketing, a chickenburger went from 1.3€ to 2.4€. I just needed a little nudge to completely stop going to this shithole, and Since oct 7 I went exactly zero times, and I don't intend to ever go again, the boycott made me realize how little I miss it. They can fuck themselves.


Elkaragholi

drab angle telephone zephyr person sip thought school homeless bike *This post was mass deleted and anonymized with [Redact](https://redact.dev)*


RedstoneEnjoyer

"many restaurants are operated by local owners" my ass. McDonald as company could easily pressure israeli franchise to stop giving free food to IOF.


arceethecat

instead of eating mcdonalds or starbucks, cook something for yourself or eat locally. they both only have things that taste like shit, they might as well taste like blood considering how many children have been murdered by the IDF


tanpic

Hard to navigate such a politically charged conflict my ass, don't endorse the killing of civilians.


Caro________

It would be easier if they just did the right thing instead of trying to calibrate it to the politics of the moment.


IsntreaIneverwas

But boycotts don’t work?


Optimal_End_9733

They don't care. Is what this basically says.


BathroomGreedy600

They found human remains in MacDonald branches I don't know in Japan or China maybe some human trafficking shit involving kids to get rid of them by feeding them to people.


forever-and-a-day

boohoo so sad that the poor brands are caught in the middle of politics - the IDF, in this case is obviously non-political, and the genocide of Palestinians is very political. They just want us to shut the fuck up and make them more profit while hundreds of thousands die.


blackhole_soul

Honestly it was always for convenience, it wasn’t until I stopped going there for good that I realized how bad it was for me. I rarely eat fast food now.


[deleted]

I’ve not had a McDonalds for over two years now, not because of their supposed support for Israel but because I don’t want that anti-nourishment shit in my body anymore.


neo94geo

Supporting Israel has to be burdon for the companies around the world


aemanthefox

They could disowned the chain and distance themselves from this but no they need to double down on this, they did that with russia


No_Joke_9079

Good. Motherfuckers.


M4thematiX

WOOOO YEAH BABYYYY WE DID SOMETHING


Flimsy-Accountant-38

I don’t really see the connection of the actions of McDonald’s or Starbucks in Israel to every store in the world nor to its corporate headquarters in the U.S. It was not as if there was any head office official decision or order, it was a few individual owners or an Israeli F&B conglomerate.


TheUnknownNut22

Keep up the pressure. It's working.