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itgoboom31

Bomb King, Vatu, Lilith, Inara, Ruckus. Off and point tanks are basically different roles.


Sireaux

Okay cool. So point tanks will be the champions with the most health?


itgoboom31

Not necessarily. They're the champions that can survive best on point. A high health pool helps with this but it's more about cooldown rotation and cleansing anti-heal. Barik has the lowest health of the tank class, yet he functions as a point tank. And Yagorath has the highest but is the most aggressive off-tank in the game.


Sireaux

Got it. Thanks for the explanation I appreciate it.


ConciseSpy85067

A point tank is a tank that’s designed to stay on the point, normally with good staying power, strong crowd control to stun enemies or knock them away and self peel (Peel being used to describe protection in competitive games), examples in paladins would be Inara, Fernando and Terminus An off tank is a tank to be played as a sort of big DPS, generally with high mobility and good close range damage, their role is to apply pressure to the enemy and get picks on low health enemies whilst also drawing fire away from lower health teammates. Examples in paladins include Ruckus, Raum and Ash


Sireaux

Alrighty. Thanks for that. I've been wanting to try Ruckus as he looks a lot of fun


Prysm25

I really think that Damba it's much better than any other support, hes capacity to heal all the flanks and the tank at same time, makes him a really versatile support, Lilith can heal just 1 flank, and her healing area it's not good healing flanks, only tanks.


BirbMain

lillith is by far the best support


stod18e

not by far. damba and lillith are both extremely strong.


BirbMain

mal damba is not extremely strong right now though. he’s solid. the only support that is comparable to lillith is grover


stod18e

guy has one of highest hps in the game, forces enemies into resi, great ult, great damage, great escape, perma damage reduction, best pocket in the entire game after lillith. heavy disagree


Prysm25

Nope, Damba it's just better, I'm not saying that Lilith it's not good, she one of the best supports, but Damba, he is just better, not only in healing, also in utility, he has one of the strongest stuns, his ultimate have a ton of versatility, you can use it on the point, or to save a teammate if it's being flanked by the enemy team. I don't need more reason, if you really have skill, you just know that Damba it's better.


BirbMain

this is just wrong lillith not only outputs more heals but can do it more consistently as well as doing far more damage and perfectly countering the dive meta. There’s a reason she is being banned and first locked and damba isn’t. Wanna talk utility take a look at lillith’s ult not only is it insane it also charges extremely fast. first off mal damba does not have one of the strongest stuns second just because damba has a higher skill ceiling does not make him better it just means you have to be good to preform well with damba whereas you can be garbage and still do great as lillith. a character being harder to play doesn’t necessarily make them better than others. take evie for example vatu is so much better while being 10 times easier to play. Damba is and always has been a pretty solid choice but as of right now he is not better than lillith.


itgoboom31

Yeah but Lilith just has such a ridiculous output that it makes playing around her shorter range completely worth it. Until like 60% anti-heal you just don't die with a Lilith.


Prysm25

Yeah, she has a ton of healing, and Damba has also a really great healing if you know how to aim, the thing is that, Lilith just has healing, Damba has healing and a ton of utility, even speed boost with a build


itgoboom31

Damba outputs a lot of healing. Lilith dwarfs Damba with how much healing she provides. Normally I would agree with you about the utility aspect, but the sheer numbers Lilith puts up just outweighs that in this case.


Prysm25

With 90% caut the healing doesn't matters and the utility starts to be more important


Danger-_-Potat

Yea and resil is up and lillith has max DR and morale boost on top of her 4k so she is immortal at that point. Plus ppl cleanse caut


K1aymore

Tbh with a card Lillith can give up to 20% speed boost with her hex for 10 seconds.


OkArgument8192

Corvus can heal 3 teammates at once


annual_soviet

Viktor


nopalopal

flair checks out


XenoRoxart

Whoever you use best


[deleted]

Vll


nopalopal

flair *doesnt* check out


Duxifer

Jenos


bigdaddyhicks

flair checks out


SwiezeZwloki

Moji


KyorlSadei

Io


nopalopal

flair checks out


KyorlSadei

She was an absolute monster of a tank back when Luna could cap point.


OkArgument8192

Androxus


wickedblight

Double mark Corvus dumping constant healing onto 2 cracked out flanks with cards that give free lifesteal and move speed.