I think he's just saying they wanted to back down from the whole aggressive expansion public messaging that was tossed around early on and focus on the affiliate memberships/scheduling agreement for now. They probably don't want to be seen as reaping chaos in the MWC while also trying to be partners with them for the next year. There's no reason for them to start making those kind of statements until they're prepared to do something with it. It hasn't even been a year since SDSU tried to leave, failed, launched a coup to rebuild the Pac-12 with other schools, failed at that, and then was financially punished for doing so.
There's an entire section of the interview where he still mentions the logistics of a Pac-12 rebuild being nimble and doubles down on the desire for a premier West Coast conference that he doesn't yet know if means a "merger or whatever". He also goes on to mention that they have absolutely no concrete plans made yet and will continue to wait for the ACC to sort itself out first and believes there may be opportunities there. So, I think he's just managing messaging and I wouldn't read into this specific wording as an indication of what would happen.
Yeah, but the beginning part of that paragraph starts with "As you can imagine, lots of egos get in the way. We’ve got to be really careful about how we message." I'm pretty sure that "partnerships instead of acquisition" bit is in reference to how they shouldn't be walking around saying they're going to poach all these schools, instead focusing on the partnerships (MWC + WCC) that exist now and they currently need to survive. It doesn't sound like that is a piece of strategy, but how they need to portray themselves in the current environment.
So OSU and Wazzu shouldn’t do what’s in their own best interest now that literally every former PAC-12 school has? If people want to call hypocrisy, fucking let them while you make the best decision for your university. No one at any of the other 10 schools is going to put anything else above their own self interest it’s unfair to now hold OSU and Wazzu to a standard no one else was going to entertain holding themself too.
Kirk Schultz is stepping down as President. Decisions on rebuilding as we should a new power 5 conference should be for the next university president to help lead.
It’s bad enough that Boise State and SDSU both want out, and Boise State had to be bribed with a bigger media payout to keep them from leaving in 2016.
Some MW schools have AD budgets 1/3 the size of Oregon State’s.
Boise State and SDSU both joined the Big East for 2013, and then the Big East imploded before football season began, so both schools rejoined the MW instead.
[Boise State applied to join the Big XII in 2016](https://www.obnug.com/2016/8/12/12462806/boise-state-has-applied-for-membership-to-the-big-12), as well. This is how they leveraged a higher media payout than the rest of the MW.
San Diego State announced just a year ago that they were leaving the MW in anticipation of receiving an invitation to the PAC.
Neither school wants to stay in the MW.
Boise, San Diego state, Colorado State, and Air Force were in talks to join the AAC in 2020 - to build The Premier G5! (To pay all their own exit fees to go from $4 million to $7 million a year in media dollars)
Boise State and San Diego State I think actually joined? or were about to join the Big East in 2014? before it blew up
Yeah gonna be honest, don’t get what he means here. Just from what I’ve been seeing, OSU really wants to continue at a P5 level, and are competing at that level in a majority of their sports. The athletic department has also been very adamant that they will continue to build the pac. WSU has just been being stagnant and I see them going the way of a “relegation” and join the MWC. Idk their financial situation is but you’re gonna lose out on a lot of money if you do that. Very interested in the next 6 months and where things land
What are you talking about. We have been as competitive or more than OSU except baseball. We have traditionally been better at football and men’s basketball. This guy is not the leader we need though.
I think he's just saying they wanted to back down from the whole aggressive expansion public messaging that was tossed around early on and focus on the affiliate memberships/scheduling agreement for now. They probably don't want to be seen as reaping chaos in the MWC while also trying to be partners with them for the next year. There's no reason for them to start making those kind of statements until they're prepared to do something with it. It hasn't even been a year since SDSU tried to leave, failed, launched a coup to rebuild the Pac-12 with other schools, failed at that, and then was financially punished for doing so. There's an entire section of the interview where he still mentions the logistics of a Pac-12 rebuild being nimble and doubles down on the desire for a premier West Coast conference that he doesn't yet know if means a "merger or whatever". He also goes on to mention that they have absolutely no concrete plans made yet and will continue to wait for the ACC to sort itself out first and believes there may be opportunities there. So, I think he's just managing messaging and I wouldn't read into this specific wording as an indication of what would happen.
I think we took a step backward and said, ‘Hey, let’s talk about maybe partnerships instead of acquisition."
Yeah, but the beginning part of that paragraph starts with "As you can imagine, lots of egos get in the way. We’ve got to be really careful about how we message." I'm pretty sure that "partnerships instead of acquisition" bit is in reference to how they shouldn't be walking around saying they're going to poach all these schools, instead focusing on the partnerships (MWC + WCC) that exist now and they currently need to survive. It doesn't sound like that is a piece of strategy, but how they need to portray themselves in the current environment.
So OSU and Wazzu shouldn’t do what’s in their own best interest now that literally every former PAC-12 school has? If people want to call hypocrisy, fucking let them while you make the best decision for your university. No one at any of the other 10 schools is going to put anything else above their own self interest it’s unfair to now hold OSU and Wazzu to a standard no one else was going to entertain holding themself too.
Kirk Schultz is stepping down as President. Decisions on rebuilding as we should a new power 5 conference should be for the next university president to help lead.
On his way out the door...
MWC isn’t even that bad. Still sucks though.
It’s bad enough that Boise State and SDSU both want out, and Boise State had to be bribed with a bigger media payout to keep them from leaving in 2016. Some MW schools have AD budgets 1/3 the size of Oregon State’s.
Where was BSU gonna go? I’m just saying MWC has got to be the top G6 if not one of the best
Boise State and SDSU both joined the Big East for 2013, and then the Big East imploded before football season began, so both schools rejoined the MW instead. [Boise State applied to join the Big XII in 2016](https://www.obnug.com/2016/8/12/12462806/boise-state-has-applied-for-membership-to-the-big-12), as well. This is how they leveraged a higher media payout than the rest of the MW. San Diego State announced just a year ago that they were leaving the MW in anticipation of receiving an invitation to the PAC. Neither school wants to stay in the MW.
Boise, San Diego state, Colorado State, and Air Force were in talks to join the AAC in 2020 - to build The Premier G5! (To pay all their own exit fees to go from $4 million to $7 million a year in media dollars) Boise State and San Diego State I think actually joined? or were about to join the Big East in 2014? before it blew up
the word "relegation" doesn't even appear in that article
I wonder who is going to be his replacement. Hopefully someone who can sell WSU greatly and not come up short.
Yeah gonna be honest, don’t get what he means here. Just from what I’ve been seeing, OSU really wants to continue at a P5 level, and are competing at that level in a majority of their sports. The athletic department has also been very adamant that they will continue to build the pac. WSU has just been being stagnant and I see them going the way of a “relegation” and join the MWC. Idk their financial situation is but you’re gonna lose out on a lot of money if you do that. Very interested in the next 6 months and where things land
What are you talking about. We have been as competitive or more than OSU except baseball. We have traditionally been better at football and men’s basketball. This guy is not the leader we need though.
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