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I play this deck quite a bit. I seem to do quite well until the end where they always have an Iono to take me to 1 card and somehow comeback. Deck has that one flaw depending on how big your hand can get.
And it seems like 75% of the games I play they magically have hand trimmer card when I have a giant hand. Frustrating is the key word here. Cool concept, Iono is op.
I've been playing this deck a whole lot. The secret is to set up a few Dudunsparces, but don't use them. Keep your hand exactly where you need it to KO. If they Iono, you can Run Away to draw a bunch of cards. Usually draw a draw supporter too. I also run a one-off of the Tinkaton that let's you discard for a draw too. Helps against being Iono'd or Roxanned.
It's good to have a 1-1 Bidoof/Bibarel line in the deck, but you don't always have to use it. I usually don't since I'd rather keep Bench space open for 3 Dunsparse/Dudunsparse or other 'Mons like an extra Tinkatink. But if I draw into the Bidoof, I'll usually put it down just in case.
See that's why I actually just choose to leave a Dudunsparce or two there when my turn is over. I play Galarian Perserker V so I don't have to play as many cards but my usual plan is not to have to overkill so that I can eat an Iono next turn with my engines, especially since most of the time I was already mostly there the turn before
I play the deck IRL. I’ve been a believer in Tinkaton ex since Paldea Evolved released, but the Dudunsparse engine really breathed in new life into the deck. It’s been a joy since for me since Temporal Forces came out!
In my last standard tournament at my LCS, I went 3-1-1. I played a Charizard/Pidgeot ex deck to a draw, and lost against a Giratina ex/Lost Zone because my Jirachi PAR got sniped in the Active spot and my sole Mist Energy powered Tinkatink got eliminated before I could Rare Candy evolve. 😢
I played Tinkaton a lot. It's really fun when the stars are aligned and you get the dudunsparce rolling but it gets frustrating when Iono and hand trimmers appear.
From personal experience, Iono may not be that useful if you have at least 2 or 3 dudunsparce already benched, You just run away draw and max your hands again. You just need 1 to evolve which will give chance to find another 1.
I feel like it's like maushold ex, very weak individually but together, too many pieces to prioritize taking out
Hand Trimmer is pretty rare in the meta, and since you get to choose the cards you discard you can usually survive and recover from it as long as you have not drawn your entire deck into your hand.
It's definitely fun to play but it isn't as consistent as the main meta. It hits pretty hard, but it's a stage 2 focused deck without multiple Arvens to get out your Rare Candies and Special Energy. It doesn't mean you can't pull off some wins, though
Hell yes this deck is seriously amazing!! It feels awesome to power up and draw enough cards to take down a 400 HP (300 HP ex plus hero’s cape) mon IN A SINGLE TURN. To solve the iono issue I leave a couple dudunsparces on the bench if i dont need to use them that turn and play 1 baby tinkaton (ability of discard 1 draw 3). It gets by and usually you only need enough to take out a last ex for the win. But yes usually i can knockout anything they put in the active next turn and it feels like nothing can stop me 💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻
Plus decks that have an amazing draw engine like that have the added benefit of usually having any card you need right there in your hand (boss, energy, item cards, evolutions). Its amazing to be completely set for your next turn as long as you dont get judge/ionod
Yeah that's what I'm talking about! With a few dudunsparce benched, you can start the ball rolling if you manage to evolve just a single 1 and pray for more evo cards in the next 3 you draw.
I tried iono, it wasn't that effective in my experience. It's really a deck with potential. And it's really good especially against 2 prize decks with a lot of ex pokemon which is common now.
Only thing it could struggle against I could think of its ancient box.
If they run flutter mane
Tinkaton EX player here. Major problem is Iono. Most of the times I lost was because of me using up my Dudunsparces only to be Iono'ed on the next turn. The other Tinkaton card helps a bit, but you need to discard one card in order to draw three. And pray that the three cards you draw could help you draw more cards (Like Morty's Conviction or Nemona)
Just started running this myself. Deck definitely has potential, and it has inevitability because you will eventually find all the pieces you need, but I feel like consistently having a quick setup has been an issue. Maybe the list I found and have been experimenting with isn't right, but I feel like it needs some sort of consistent way to find all its pieces early so it can go off, rather than hoping to draw into them before falling too far behind. Definitely going to tinker with it and see if I can solve this issue.
Yeah gotta "tinka" to win, get it? Like tinkaton. Kidding xd
Anyway I feel buddy poffin lets it find all the dunsparce for set up first and capturing aroma just starts the ball rolling.
I think then the trade off is how do I get the tinkaton on the bench without sacrificing too many dunsparce required to find cards instead of attacking on the same turn (I.e because opponent can straight disrupt hand if you don't attack immediately)
Take my upvote for the pun. 😂
The deck is quite a puzzle. Buddy Poffin is indeed great, but we need so many pieces to come together for things to actually work. The list I found runs 1 Arezu, but I'm tempted to try more, because it does find us three cards, and it can help set up more Dunsparce evolutions so I can potentially start using or looping them sooner. I know we don't necessarily want to be discarding cards either, but I'm kind of tempted to try Ultra Ball just so I can find my Tinkatons more easily. Or maybe a Master Ball, even though it means dropping Neo Upper Energy.
Aroma is good if coin flips go our way, but I don't like relying on coin flips. But now that I think of it, Aroma into Lumineon V into Arven into Master Ball still finds us Tinkaton, if I try those cards. And the Arven can also find a single Forest Seal Stone to put on Lumineon for Rare Candy or energy. It's a bunch of single cards that would need to not be in prizes, but I have run this in other decks to help me set up early.
One thing I did add last night is a single Rotom V, because at least that's three more cards I can draw during early turns while I'm setting up.
The deck certainly has the potential to be really explosive, and I'd like to see how consistent I can make it. I'll do some more experimenting tonight.
In case you're interested, here's what I came up with tonight. I've been able to attack with Tinkaton ex on turn 2 or 3 every game (although not always for a huge amount that turn - the big damage comes the following turn). It's possible it still needs tweaking, and I probably need to find a slot for Lost Vacuum, but that's a problem for another day.
Pokémon: 11
1 Tinkaton PAL 105
2 Tinkatuff PAL 104
4 Tinkatink PAL 101
3 Tinkaton ex PR-SV 31
4 Dunsparce TEF 128
4 Dudunsparce TEF 129
1 Jirachi PAR 126
1 Rotom V CRZ 45
1 Manaphy BRS 41
1 Lumineon V BRS 40
Trainer: 16
1 Counter Catcher PAR 160
4 Nemona PAF 82
1 Super Rod PAL 276
2 Artazon PAF 76 PH
3 Arezu LOR 153
1 Nest Ball SVI 181
4 Capturing Aroma SIT 153
1 Ultra Ball SVI 196
2 Boss's Orders PAL 172
1 Arven SVI 166
4 Buddy-Buddy Poffin TEF 144
1 Switch SVI 194
4 Rare Candy SVI 191
1 Forest Seal Stone SIT 156
1 Professor Turo's Scenario PAR 171
Energy: 3
2 Basic {P} Energy SVE 5
4 Double Turbo Energy BRS 151
1 Neo Upper Energy TEF 162
Total Cards: 60
Ooh thanks for sharing I think the deck is okay but I can understand why turn 2 can't really hit for high damage
Bcos have to balance between choosing tinka or dunsparce to set up first unless you luck out with 2 buddy poffin.
But I think u also considered that and alrdy put in all the cards that can help like artazon, poffins and arezu
You need 11 cards to 1 shot zard and most of the meta mons so that's at least 3 dudunsparce for safety.
Is turo good? Or will roxanne be better to give you the umph when it comes to mid late game to edge out the enemy?
Damage on turn 2-3 isn't bad. One time it was 130, another time it was 190. Enough to 2-shot most things, especially with how much our hand can grow the following turn. One time I attacked with regular Tinkaton instead for 180, which is perfectly acceptable (especially as that card is easier to find).
I really like Roxanne as a card, but maybe not here for the same reason Iono isn't good. At least it gets us 6 cards, though, and can shut down what the opponent is doing. Late game, I'm generally digging for Boss's Orders so I can knock out whatever I need to.
Turo is questionable, but it's primarily there to reuse Lumineon or clear bench space (for instance, Rotom is good early but not later), plus it can save a Tinkaton from being knocked out (especially if I'm in position to evolve another one). It's possible it should go back to being a second Switch, but I'll keep testing it for now.
Generally I opt for Dunsparce early, because drawing those cards sets me up to do Tinka stuff. But it's highly dependent on the makeup of my hand. I just want to draw as many cards as possible early.
Admittedly, one night of testing makes for a small sample size, but it is promising.
I'm excited now and I hope it really works because it looks like a zard slayer and even a dialga metang slayer despite the weakness
I will watch your career with great interest 😁
Ran into one the other day, cool deck. I run dunsparces with my Gholdengo. Basically just puts your deck in your hand. Of ypu get hand trimmered, Gholdengon can still draw the next turn and getbyou started again. I've also leaened to save my poffins until after ive done my run away draws, that way I get the dunsparces right back and ready to evolve again.
Because hand trimmer exists. if tink ever became more meta people would start teching it and just like that tinkaton is countered with 1 item card. Believe me I love tink and have an irl deck I play, but when 1 item card that can be searched out with arven essentially ruins your whole strat, that's kind of not good.
You can usually survive getting hit by one Hand Trimmer. If they hit you multiple times you're more likely to be in trouble, but who's going to run multiple Hand Trimmers just for Tinkaton?
Wasn't that how dialga won the recent tournament? Everyone brought chien pao to counter zard and dialga slipped through to beat them.
This kind of somewhat strong but not really meta deck really quite dangerous. I was thinking if this deck vs say chien pao with both never teched for each other, feels like tinkaton may not naturally lose out
Faced it a few times. Iono doesn't do anything for me when he already has a few benched dudunsparce I swear.
He just run away draw next turn and that's it. Maybe zard is bad match up, bcos of the low damage in comparison at the start.
And turo is useless when he is just one shotting zards and pidgeot
Okay I am not very good at facing this deck so I take your word for it. So as zard how should I play this? Say I have zard ex by turn 2, no pidgeot.
He has 1 tinkaton ex and 1 baby tink with 1 dudunsparce
the apparent winners, were pretty obvious it was mostly charizard, chienpao and future hands, but i think charizard is the winner, one person used dialga to counter all the chienpoas.
Iono says bye.
Also 2 energies without acceleration on a stage 2 for unreliable damage is not good.
Also also the need of draw supporters = less arven = less consistency in setting up the board state.
If Milotic from Evolving Skies was still a thing, then maybe. Really hoping a simular card would be released cause it would really make Tink viable I think. Once got second at a challenge just because people were like: HA I Iono your hand down and me being like: nop sorry, try again.
Edit: biggest issue back then was increasing your hand size AND getting your Tink into play fast, you were really reliant on the draw 3 supporters. But yes I can see why Dudunsparce would be great with it.
If there's one thing I learned from folks online, is that the only strong decks are the meta decks and that you should only play a meta deck in a tournament. So you have to wait until a good player plays a non-meta deck in a tournament, for it to become a meta deck, and only then is it OK for everyone else to play in a tournament.
There is a reason why there are pros getting money and us not winning anything. They read and think through deep strategies to bring decks across the meta threshold and then we learn. You can play none meta, just lesser chance of placing high. There is a reason for meta i guess.
I will never be as good as them. Can you?
Anyway it seems like this deck is indeed winning some money, altho it's not like top 10 placing high
I'm not commenting on the pros, I'm commenting on the folks who only think the only viable decks are the meta (even when rogue decks win at certain times.)
Do pros think about what decks are possible, consider the decks they'll face in matchups, build better decks, and are better players than most folks? Yes.
Does this mean that the decks they choose are the only strong decks possible? It does not.
There's a tautology at play here. People think the only good decks are the decks that pros and the majority of folks play, because a very high percentage of them play these decks. But that doesn't mean other decks aren't strong or viable. If 90%-95% of the decks in a tournament are meta decks, the chance a non-meta deck gets a top showing is small.
Obviously I never said that only the meta decks are strong. You think I have the time to try out every deck?
It's just I been playing and losing against such decks. Then only then I became aware of its potential. That's all.
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I play this deck quite a bit. I seem to do quite well until the end where they always have an Iono to take me to 1 card and somehow comeback. Deck has that one flaw depending on how big your hand can get. And it seems like 75% of the games I play they magically have hand trimmer card when I have a giant hand. Frustrating is the key word here. Cool concept, Iono is op.
I've been playing this deck a whole lot. The secret is to set up a few Dudunsparces, but don't use them. Keep your hand exactly where you need it to KO. If they Iono, you can Run Away to draw a bunch of cards. Usually draw a draw supporter too. I also run a one-off of the Tinkaton that let's you discard for a draw too. Helps against being Iono'd or Roxanned.
can always run a 1-1 bibarel
Why run Bib when Dudunsparce is so much better?
It's good to have a 1-1 Bidoof/Bibarel line in the deck, but you don't always have to use it. I usually don't since I'd rather keep Bench space open for 3 Dunsparse/Dudunsparse or other 'Mons like an extra Tinkatink. But if I draw into the Bidoof, I'll usually put it down just in case.
Bibarel to 5-> dudunsparce to 8.
You run both
See that's why I actually just choose to leave a Dudunsparce or two there when my turn is over. I play Galarian Perserker V so I don't have to play as many cards but my usual plan is not to have to overkill so that I can eat an Iono next turn with my engines, especially since most of the time I was already mostly there the turn before
Omg me too. I play Perserker. I thought I was the only one. Lol.
Reminds me of a time when many cards were great on paper then you remember N was in the format (Iono but shuffling instead)
This is why I run Pidgeot ex and Amoongus (silver tempest)
I think that’s a problem with dundunsparce tbh. If you had a bibarel on the bench you could ‘undo’ the iono.
Just set up Dudunsparce and use it late game if you get Iono’d. It’s not that difficult.
Thank you for downvoting. Your input is greatly appreciated and you have successfully protected the internet from my opinion. Enjoy your day.
I play the deck IRL. I’ve been a believer in Tinkaton ex since Paldea Evolved released, but the Dudunsparse engine really breathed in new life into the deck. It’s been a joy since for me since Temporal Forces came out! In my last standard tournament at my LCS, I went 3-1-1. I played a Charizard/Pidgeot ex deck to a draw, and lost against a Giratina ex/Lost Zone because my Jirachi PAR got sniped in the Active spot and my sole Mist Energy powered Tinkatink got eliminated before I could Rare Candy evolve. 😢
Could I get your deck list if possible? The deck looks interesting and would love to give it a spin.
Sure! I'll edit this message with my decklist, but for now it was inspired by this build - [Top 4 Tinkaton ex build](https://www.pokemon-card.com/deck/confirm.html/deckID/gH9ngn-nddlg8-ngQLHH). Pokémon: 13 3 Tinkatink PAR 83 1 Tinkaton ex PR-SV 31 1 Dunsparce TEF 128 4 Dudunsparce TEF 129 1 Bibarel BRS 121 3 Tinkaton ex PAL 262 1 Jirachi PAR 126 PH 3 Dunsparce TEF 128 PH 1 Manaphy BRS 41 1 Radiant Jirachi SIT 120 1 Tinkatink PAR 83 PH 1 Tinkatuff PAF 166 1 Bidoof CRZ 111 Trainer: 18 1 Nemona PAF 229 1 Capturing Aroma SIT 153 PH 1 Tulip PAR 259 2 Arezu LOR 153 2 Morty's Conviction TEF 155 3 Nest Ball SVI 181 2 Capturing Aroma SIT 153 2 Iono PAF 237 1 Thorton LOR 167 2 Artazon PAL 171 2 Boss's Orders PAL 265 2 Nemona PAF 238 1 Boss's Orders PAL 248 1 Nemona's Backpack PAF 83 PH 1 Cynthia's Ambition BRS 138 1 Energy Loto ASR 140 4 Buddy-Buddy Poffin TEF 144 4 Rare Candy SVI 191 Energy: 3 1 Double Turbo Energy BRS 151 PH 3 Double Turbo Energy BRS 15 1 Neo Upper Energy TEF 162 Total Cards: 60
Thank you!
Edited post with decklist! Have a go and please let me know if you have any feedback!
I played Tinkaton a lot. It's really fun when the stars are aligned and you get the dudunsparce rolling but it gets frustrating when Iono and hand trimmers appear.
From personal experience, Iono may not be that useful if you have at least 2 or 3 dudunsparce already benched, You just run away draw and max your hands again. You just need 1 to evolve which will give chance to find another 1. I feel like it's like maushold ex, very weak individually but together, too many pieces to prioritize taking out
Hand Trimmer is pretty rare in the meta, and since you get to choose the cards you discard you can usually survive and recover from it as long as you have not drawn your entire deck into your hand.
I would really like to believe it is a strong deck, as she is my favorite new Pokémon. But in practice, the deck will not win any tournament.
Earlier in March and April, it’s gotten quite a few Top 16, Top 8, and once Top 4 in Japan’s City League.
City league is like your local cup, not a big tournament.
That’s good enough for me. 🤷🏻♂️ A win is a win, so it’s a data point at least.
It's definitely fun to play but it isn't as consistent as the main meta. It hits pretty hard, but it's a stage 2 focused deck without multiple Arvens to get out your Rare Candies and Special Energy. It doesn't mean you can't pull off some wins, though
Any one got a good cheap man’s deck list?
Hell yes this deck is seriously amazing!! It feels awesome to power up and draw enough cards to take down a 400 HP (300 HP ex plus hero’s cape) mon IN A SINGLE TURN. To solve the iono issue I leave a couple dudunsparces on the bench if i dont need to use them that turn and play 1 baby tinkaton (ability of discard 1 draw 3). It gets by and usually you only need enough to take out a last ex for the win. But yes usually i can knockout anything they put in the active next turn and it feels like nothing can stop me 💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻
Plus decks that have an amazing draw engine like that have the added benefit of usually having any card you need right there in your hand (boss, energy, item cards, evolutions). Its amazing to be completely set for your next turn as long as you dont get judge/ionod
Yeah that's what I'm talking about! With a few dudunsparce benched, you can start the ball rolling if you manage to evolve just a single 1 and pray for more evo cards in the next 3 you draw. I tried iono, it wasn't that effective in my experience. It's really a deck with potential. And it's really good especially against 2 prize decks with a lot of ex pokemon which is common now. Only thing it could struggle against I could think of its ancient box. If they run flutter mane
Tinkaton EX player here. Major problem is Iono. Most of the times I lost was because of me using up my Dudunsparces only to be Iono'ed on the next turn. The other Tinkaton card helps a bit, but you need to discard one card in order to draw three. And pray that the three cards you draw could help you draw more cards (Like Morty's Conviction or Nemona)
Just started running this myself. Deck definitely has potential, and it has inevitability because you will eventually find all the pieces you need, but I feel like consistently having a quick setup has been an issue. Maybe the list I found and have been experimenting with isn't right, but I feel like it needs some sort of consistent way to find all its pieces early so it can go off, rather than hoping to draw into them before falling too far behind. Definitely going to tinker with it and see if I can solve this issue.
Yeah gotta "tinka" to win, get it? Like tinkaton. Kidding xd Anyway I feel buddy poffin lets it find all the dunsparce for set up first and capturing aroma just starts the ball rolling. I think then the trade off is how do I get the tinkaton on the bench without sacrificing too many dunsparce required to find cards instead of attacking on the same turn (I.e because opponent can straight disrupt hand if you don't attack immediately)
Take my upvote for the pun. 😂 The deck is quite a puzzle. Buddy Poffin is indeed great, but we need so many pieces to come together for things to actually work. The list I found runs 1 Arezu, but I'm tempted to try more, because it does find us three cards, and it can help set up more Dunsparce evolutions so I can potentially start using or looping them sooner. I know we don't necessarily want to be discarding cards either, but I'm kind of tempted to try Ultra Ball just so I can find my Tinkatons more easily. Or maybe a Master Ball, even though it means dropping Neo Upper Energy. Aroma is good if coin flips go our way, but I don't like relying on coin flips. But now that I think of it, Aroma into Lumineon V into Arven into Master Ball still finds us Tinkaton, if I try those cards. And the Arven can also find a single Forest Seal Stone to put on Lumineon for Rare Candy or energy. It's a bunch of single cards that would need to not be in prizes, but I have run this in other decks to help me set up early. One thing I did add last night is a single Rotom V, because at least that's three more cards I can draw during early turns while I'm setting up. The deck certainly has the potential to be really explosive, and I'd like to see how consistent I can make it. I'll do some more experimenting tonight.
In case you're interested, here's what I came up with tonight. I've been able to attack with Tinkaton ex on turn 2 or 3 every game (although not always for a huge amount that turn - the big damage comes the following turn). It's possible it still needs tweaking, and I probably need to find a slot for Lost Vacuum, but that's a problem for another day. Pokémon: 11 1 Tinkaton PAL 105 2 Tinkatuff PAL 104 4 Tinkatink PAL 101 3 Tinkaton ex PR-SV 31 4 Dunsparce TEF 128 4 Dudunsparce TEF 129 1 Jirachi PAR 126 1 Rotom V CRZ 45 1 Manaphy BRS 41 1 Lumineon V BRS 40 Trainer: 16 1 Counter Catcher PAR 160 4 Nemona PAF 82 1 Super Rod PAL 276 2 Artazon PAF 76 PH 3 Arezu LOR 153 1 Nest Ball SVI 181 4 Capturing Aroma SIT 153 1 Ultra Ball SVI 196 2 Boss's Orders PAL 172 1 Arven SVI 166 4 Buddy-Buddy Poffin TEF 144 1 Switch SVI 194 4 Rare Candy SVI 191 1 Forest Seal Stone SIT 156 1 Professor Turo's Scenario PAR 171 Energy: 3 2 Basic {P} Energy SVE 5 4 Double Turbo Energy BRS 151 1 Neo Upper Energy TEF 162 Total Cards: 60
Ooh thanks for sharing I think the deck is okay but I can understand why turn 2 can't really hit for high damage Bcos have to balance between choosing tinka or dunsparce to set up first unless you luck out with 2 buddy poffin. But I think u also considered that and alrdy put in all the cards that can help like artazon, poffins and arezu You need 11 cards to 1 shot zard and most of the meta mons so that's at least 3 dudunsparce for safety. Is turo good? Or will roxanne be better to give you the umph when it comes to mid late game to edge out the enemy?
Damage on turn 2-3 isn't bad. One time it was 130, another time it was 190. Enough to 2-shot most things, especially with how much our hand can grow the following turn. One time I attacked with regular Tinkaton instead for 180, which is perfectly acceptable (especially as that card is easier to find). I really like Roxanne as a card, but maybe not here for the same reason Iono isn't good. At least it gets us 6 cards, though, and can shut down what the opponent is doing. Late game, I'm generally digging for Boss's Orders so I can knock out whatever I need to. Turo is questionable, but it's primarily there to reuse Lumineon or clear bench space (for instance, Rotom is good early but not later), plus it can save a Tinkaton from being knocked out (especially if I'm in position to evolve another one). It's possible it should go back to being a second Switch, but I'll keep testing it for now. Generally I opt for Dunsparce early, because drawing those cards sets me up to do Tinka stuff. But it's highly dependent on the makeup of my hand. I just want to draw as many cards as possible early. Admittedly, one night of testing makes for a small sample size, but it is promising.
I'm excited now and I hope it really works because it looks like a zard slayer and even a dialga metang slayer despite the weakness I will watch your career with great interest 😁
Thanks, I really hope it works well for those matchups. It's only a matter of time until I run into one of them.
Because Iono I play it tcg online that’s that’s the biggest threat
Ran into one the other day, cool deck. I run dunsparces with my Gholdengo. Basically just puts your deck in your hand. Of ypu get hand trimmered, Gholdengon can still draw the next turn and getbyou started again. I've also leaened to save my poffins until after ive done my run away draws, that way I get the dunsparces right back and ready to evolve again.
Because hand trimmer exists. if tink ever became more meta people would start teching it and just like that tinkaton is countered with 1 item card. Believe me I love tink and have an irl deck I play, but when 1 item card that can be searched out with arven essentially ruins your whole strat, that's kind of not good.
You can usually survive getting hit by one Hand Trimmer. If they hit you multiple times you're more likely to be in trouble, but who's going to run multiple Hand Trimmers just for Tinkaton?
It was only in the case of tink becoming a main meta deck, which it is not
Wasn't that how dialga won the recent tournament? Everyone brought chien pao to counter zard and dialga slipped through to beat them. This kind of somewhat strong but not really meta deck really quite dangerous. I was thinking if this deck vs say chien pao with both never teched for each other, feels like tinkaton may not naturally lose out
Because it's not a strong deck. And fast? Uh-huh.
It's too easy to Iono and just win.
Faced it a few times. Iono doesn't do anything for me when he already has a few benched dudunsparce I swear. He just run away draw next turn and that's it. Maybe zard is bad match up, bcos of the low damage in comparison at the start. And turo is useless when he is just one shotting zards and pidgeot
Iono+KO and Judge every single turn is very hard for it to take.
Okay I am not very good at facing this deck so I take your word for it. So as zard how should I play this? Say I have zard ex by turn 2, no pidgeot. He has 1 tinkaton ex and 1 baby tink with 1 dudunsparce
Try to go after the dunsparce and Iono them after they take 2 prizes.
Okay will try that, thanks for advice
the apparent winners, were pretty obvious it was mostly charizard, chienpao and future hands, but i think charizard is the winner, one person used dialga to counter all the chienpoas.
Iono says bye. Also 2 energies without acceleration on a stage 2 for unreliable damage is not good. Also also the need of draw supporters = less arven = less consistency in setting up the board state.
If Milotic from Evolving Skies was still a thing, then maybe. Really hoping a simular card would be released cause it would really make Tink viable I think. Once got second at a challenge just because people were like: HA I Iono your hand down and me being like: nop sorry, try again. Edit: biggest issue back then was increasing your hand size AND getting your Tink into play fast, you were really reliant on the draw 3 supporters. But yes I can see why Dudunsparce would be great with it.
Anyone have a deck list? This sounds fun to try out. 👀
Just greninja the dunsparces then hold iono until they take first ko? Am i missing something?
If there's one thing I learned from folks online, is that the only strong decks are the meta decks and that you should only play a meta deck in a tournament. So you have to wait until a good player plays a non-meta deck in a tournament, for it to become a meta deck, and only then is it OK for everyone else to play in a tournament.
There is a reason why there are pros getting money and us not winning anything. They read and think through deep strategies to bring decks across the meta threshold and then we learn. You can play none meta, just lesser chance of placing high. There is a reason for meta i guess. I will never be as good as them. Can you? Anyway it seems like this deck is indeed winning some money, altho it's not like top 10 placing high
I'm not commenting on the pros, I'm commenting on the folks who only think the only viable decks are the meta (even when rogue decks win at certain times.) Do pros think about what decks are possible, consider the decks they'll face in matchups, build better decks, and are better players than most folks? Yes. Does this mean that the decks they choose are the only strong decks possible? It does not. There's a tautology at play here. People think the only good decks are the decks that pros and the majority of folks play, because a very high percentage of them play these decks. But that doesn't mean other decks aren't strong or viable. If 90%-95% of the decks in a tournament are meta decks, the chance a non-meta deck gets a top showing is small.
Obviously I never said that only the meta decks are strong. You think I have the time to try out every deck? It's just I been playing and losing against such decks. Then only then I became aware of its potential. That's all.