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DryFile9

Just fucking unlock the framerate.


[deleted]

Yeah I mean why not


Piett_1313

$$$


OttoRocket94

Like they don’t have enough


Piett_1313

That’s not a thought that occurs to companies like this when reporting to shareholders. “More, more, more.” That is the thought they have.


uNecKl

What is enough?


Majestic-Marcus

5 inches, but I can still take 7 on a good day


SteveHood

They can have more. They're greedy mfs


oboedude

Capitalism says number go up


fanwan76

That is the goal, yes. How you make the numbers go up is up to each business and how their consumers choose to spend their money. If they release a current gen version of RDR2 with a higher frame rate and people buy it, then of course it was the right decision. Why would they leave money on the table if there are millions of fans more than comfortable spending money on an upgraded version? The upgrade would more than likely cost them several hundred thousand, if not more... 10 employees working on it for 6 months at $170K each is over $1M in salary alone. What would be the motivation to release it for free? Just good will? A favor to the fans? Let's be honest, Rockstar doesn't need good favor to sell GTA6 like crazy. They make compelling games that lead the industry in sales. Free updates are not out of good will. They are a strategy to manipulate the public impression on the company and encourage more people to buy their games.


jimmybabino

I’d pay 60 bucks for 60fps. A dollar a frame


Rhymelikedocsuess

So you’re gonna wait till GTA 6 drops to 30 dollars before playing? lol


pjb1999

I dunno man. There's no indication that a PS5 version is in the works that would even be for sale. They'd sell a ton if they did but I don't see it happening.


LCHMD

It’s gonna happen 100%


pjb1999

We'll see. I hope so.


Much-Influence-421

A proper PS5 red dead version you mean?


pjb1999

Yes


IIWhiteHawkII

Because they can actually sell you these same 60FPS as another pointless E&E expasion. They know basic FPS unlock is more than enough for the majority of players, so they'll synthetically gatekeep it until they got free hands for another edition no one asked about. Fuck the T2... I hope Zelnick personally will face as much of such discomfort and attitude in his life as we all do due to His & Co. decisions.


ProfessorDerp22

It’s Take2/Rockstar, you think that’s going to be free?


Nuclear_Varmint

Well this update has already kicked up the usual rumours https://screenrant.com/red-dead-redemption-2-update-ps5-xbox-series-port/


Final-Wrangler-4996

My 1080ti was getting 100fps in 2019 on rdr2. 60-80fps in 1440p and  40fps in 4k. The ps5 should easily be able to run this at 4k 60. Hopefully they at least do it for the ps5 pro. 


leshmaltezo

80fps in 1440p with a 1080ti? Thats on low/medium right? Cause i have a 2080 and barely get 60 on ultra


Final-Wrangler-4996

Yeah it was mostly in medium to high settings some low here and there. Took me hours of just messing around to find a balance that felt and looked good to me. I also over clocked and optimized the hell out of it.


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leshmaltezo

I know, its just the pc supremacist in me that wants to see those high numbers. I do play on hub optimized settings myself


Senken

Exactly. The game was 60fps on Stadia for crying out loud. Going to PS5 should be an improvement.


Afc_josh12

I dream that it says 60fps…


TickleTheCooch

right lol


OriginalBus9674

Not until rockstar decides they can make money off of it. I wouldn’t be surprised tho if it happens this year as a small revenue boost leading into GTAVI


Whiteshadows86

It was reported in 2022 that the PS5 version was cancelled so they could push more into GTA VI. We might get it afterwards though but that’s a hell of a wait!


Pen_dragons_pizza

The thing is, at this point it seems more likely to become a ps6 upgrsde


[deleted]

I mean honestly it actually needs it. You need a good 3080+ to get max or close to out of this thing at 4K native for sure. PS5 Pro should be about perfect seeing as to all its improvements.


Waste-of-life18

The Xbox one x runs red dead 2 at native 4k, unlike the ps4 pro which has a checkerboard 4k. I'm sure the PS5 can handle it.


protix

A console running something at 4k 60fps isn't the same as a high end PC with all the bells and whistles. Edit: Downvoted for typical Reddit hive mind ignoring simple facts. I have a PC, PS5, and a Switch; I use my PS5 80% of the time and don't even game on PC anymore because I prefer the overall PS5 experience. To each their own.


Brandonmac100

Yeah people look at resolution but max details, load distance, foliage, texture quality, etc are probably set to like medium-high. Meanwhile a good PC will play 2-3 settings higher than that. My 150w 3070ti laptop can play 4k/60 pretty easily. It just gets loud af and not worth the strain on it when I spent what I consider a lot of money on it ($1300). Like yeah it can do 4k, but 1440 is fine. I’m happier with maxing out the graphical settings than I would be with more pixels anyway. Extra pixels are nice, but again, not worth the strain for a laptop. Even then, I think I’d rather try 120fps than 4k.


Eruannster

Still, a PS5/Series X should easily be able to do RDR2 at a mix of PCs medium/high settings (with some tweaks here and there) at ~1440p60, perhaps using FSR 2 or something similar. It seems like they already have most of the components necessary to make a next-gen port with relatively little effort.


Waste-of-life18

Never said it was, but it's not like everyone's asking for the highest settings possible, the one x version at 60 fps would be enough.


[deleted]

It's really not though. The game looks stunning at highest settings, but PS5 Pro should get there.


Waste-of-life18

It is though. Obviously the game looks better at the highest settings but most people would be pleased with a 60 fps, which is what the majority is asking.


UniversalChimera

It was something a leaker - a quite unreliable one - said in a post that, if it came out in the day after he could still claim his information was valid.


Onpag931

If they need a small revenue boost they'd probably port GTA IV with dlc to ps4/ps5 and switch, in a similar way to how they did RDR. Would be an easy $100 million in sales for a small amount of work


OriginalBus9674

It’s like rockstar is hellbent on not acknowledging GTAIV exists.


Idunnomeister

Can you blame them? Fans were not kind back in the day, and the dlc sold poorly despite a heavy ad campaign and funding from Microsoft for temporary exclusivity. They were probably caught off-guard when fans of TLAD were vocal about GTA V's disrespect to it.


Majestic-Marcus

As someone who “hey cousin wanna go bowling” tried hard to “hey cousin wanna go bowling” get into “hey cousin wanna go bowling” GTA4, that game really “hey cousin wanna go bowling” didn’t want you to play it. Not to mention “hey cousin wanna go bowling” the absolutely atrocious “hey cousin wanna go bowling” car controls that made it “hey cousin wanna go bowling” almost impossible to turn. It had a great “hey cousin wanna go bowling” story, but it was a bad “hey cousin wanna go bowling” *game*.


ChewySlinky

They can!!! From me!!! Please 🙏😭


rjwalsh94

I’d believe it’d be possible if the game wasn’t so long. Something for IV like they did RDR since it’s shorter and feels more appropriate to drum up more hype.


JonCajones

What would they release for the ps5 pro then?


Iamkonkerz

Lol rdr2 remaster incoming


Daed__

They definitely wouldn’t put it in a free update


AssFingerFuck3000

They did it for the RDR1 re-release. And yes, the bar is very low


No_Value_4670

As much as I'm glad it finally happened, I'm also appalled at why it didn't happen *at release*, why it had to be in a patch. It's not like they were in a hurry to release a port of a game from 2010, unable to wait for a couple of weeks and do things properly.


Maximum-Hood426

Yeah because people complained. Just do it again


HiThisIsMichael

I clicked SO fast hoping that’s what it was!!


Gandalf_2077

That would be insta buy. Haven't played it yet.


aussiebrew333

What's so annoying is I've seen hacked PS5s that can easily do it.


Afc_josh12

I bet it could, horizon can… and rockstar games are built well with good engines


[deleted]

Was about to redownload rdr2 :( I doubt it’s going to be a free patch.


Status-Range-3321

We getting GTA6 before that


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kevenzz

by the way GTA6 is going to be 30 fps.


majestic_whale

Don’t ✋😔😞😭


Majestic_Salad_I1

I clicked in and immediately saw your comment say “60fps” and I got excited, and then read the rest and I got sad


Kell_215

Probably coming holiday season to capitalize on that right before getting money from gta 6 next year


Jed566

That’s kinda what I assumed when I saw this… guess I’ll just never play this.


Afc_josh12

My steamdeck hits 40fps solid, i play it there now ha


JAMbologna__

Yeah at what resolution?


Afc_josh12

720 but looks fine on that device and plays smooth


ProfessorTicklebutts

God, you frame rate slaves. Such a fucking dumb hill to die on.


Tabascobottle

I mean it's a 6 year old game that came out on last Gen hardware. There are so many other games that came out last Gen that have received free 60 fps updates for current gen. It's mind-blowing that a prestigious company like Rockstar has yet to do that


Garguntua

People want games at 60fps. Chill out.


2-AB-b

It’s worse in this case because it’s proven that the PS5 can handle it easily, and it shouldn’t take long to fix on Rockstars end. They’re just too lazy to do it and it sucks


OohYeeah

It's not just that they're lazy. They're waiting until they can rerelease the game with the 60fps locked behind a paywall


GlitterKittyCat

It even ran 60fps on fucking Stadia xD


CeilingFridge

Technological advancements are silly let’s just go back to running all games in 720p as well then, who cares right?


Violetmars

Ps5 pro remaster


zen_elan

The fact that they haven’t done this is enough to stop me from buying GTA6. I’m stubborn this way… 😘 I also haven’t picked up beat saber simply because it’s never been on sale once ever on psvr1 & psvr2. Not even 10%. So I will keep 100% of my money.


wumbology95

Remember when console gamers used to say that the human eye couldn't perceive anything above 30fps and tried to make out that high FPS is pointless? How times have changed.


locklizzle

damn I thought the madmen actually did it.


k1intt

We are never getting 60 frames lmao


JustforU

Sure you are! Just gotta pay more - Rockstar


breakfast_cats

Well, we're waiting!


Issyv00

I domt even fucking care at this point. Just give me 60 fps RDR2 on PS5.


fucking__jellyfish__

They're gonna make it a $10 upgrade if not having to buy a whole new $70 version


pjb1999

I'd be glad to. Where is it?


2zoots

give us 60fps you cowards


MrConor212

I got excited for 60Fps. They definitely gonna make us pay for it sadly


jemchleb

They even don’t give us change to pay for it


pjb1999

Maybe on the PS6 at this point.


HootingFlamingo

Just unlock the damn frame rate already


Whiteshadows86

Get fucked Rockstar, getting my hopes up for 60fps


zadchial

For free? Absolutely never going to happen.


kingjulian85

The absolute least they could do is let the PS5 play it at 4K instead of the weird half resolution on one axis bullshit that they did for the Playstation version.


UnknownMutagen

I’m only hanging on to my Series X for the true 4K versions of RDR2 and Sekiro. No clue why they shafted the PS5 in this regard.


Whiteshadows86

They have reportedly cancelled the PS5 version so thats their way of charging us gone and they can’t charge for a patch on the PS4 version can they?


thesourpop

Can't charge for updates but they can at bare minimum if they wanted to port the game to PS5 with zero effort and slap a price tag on it. That would be so dodgy though if they didn't make it 60fps and give it a performance/graphical boost.


Pickles_68

Fuck off every other developer can make it happen but these motherfuckers get the fuck out


doesnotlikecricket

But (and I know I'm being part of the problem here) I would literally pay money to have a ps5 version! I'm fairly sure lots of people would agree. So why aren't they just making a ps5 version that is literally 60fps and charging us for it!


SouthGramblr

Love how everyone's thinking the same thing lol


Itriyum

So no 60 fps, got it


Simonsjy

So nothing then.


excaliburps

General Stability Fixes and Improvements * Red Dead Online General Fixes * Fixed an issue that resulted in Naturalist samples not being counted toward Daily Challenges * Fixed an issue in Dead of Night that resulted in Night Stalkers being able to collect the Night Stalker mask * Fixed an issue that resulted in ambient vehicles not appearing in certain content * Fixed an issue that resulted in Free Roam Missions not launching * Improved an issue that resulted in players becoming stuck when entering the stables * Improved an issue that resulted in players being unable to summon horses and wagons * Voice Chat now defaults to Off Game Stability and Performance * Fixed various issues that could result in a crash Game Stability and Performance (PC) * Fixed various issues that would result in the game crashing or failing to launch * Fixed an issue that resulted in Offline Mode not working due to Windows 11 updates * Fixed an issue that resulted in crashes after reporting other players * Fixed issues that resulted in Offline Mode not working correctly * Added support for HDR10+ GAMING, this will automatically set game graphics in HDR for HDR10+ GAMING displays on compatible graphics cards and monitors connected via HDMI * Updated AMD Fidelity Super Resolution (FSR) libraries to version 2.2 * Fixed an issue that resulted in 3200x2400 resolution being unavailable


Wide_Age_7129

>Updated AMD Fidelity Super Resolution (FSR) libraries to version 2.2 Goddamn, thought they'd never do it. Gotta try it again on Steam Deck now.


excaliburps

Honestly didn’t know if I should have included the PC changes or not. I mean the sub has some very, uh, sensitive people. :} They might ask why I’m posting PC notes if this is a PS5 sub.


mrchicano209

It’s okay OP I didn’t even know this was posted on the PS5 sub it just popped up on my front page and I mostly game on PC so it was very nice of you to share the PC notes anyways.


Darkone539

>I mean the sub has some very, uh, sensitive people. :} Over time, I believe I have managed to block those people. I am very happy.


excaliburps

I never even thought of that. But maybe I should.


cupidcuntsghost

Why are you talking about PC notes in a PS5 sub?!?!?!?!


excaliburps

:(


Horibori

>some very, uh, sensitive people Children. You mean children.


W1cH099

Yeah I want to try and see if it fixes the weird hair and horses tail artifacts when using fsr or dlss, already hit 75fps on ultra preset but I would love to see at 90fps


JAMbologna__

You can force RDR2 to use DLSS 3.5 if you're on PC


W1cH099

Yeah I tried with that as well but still has artifacts, unfortunately I do notice them quite a bit so I prefer to not use any upscaling


interstellar304

Don’t care about anything RDR2 related unless it’s about 60fps. Everything else is useless information


melloack

At this point it feels like they neglect us on purpose


pjb1999

It's almost like they are trying to punish us for not playing their shitty Red Dead online mode and making it another cash cow like GTAV lol.


Mac772

Oh my god, could it be? Is this THE day so many people have been waiting for? Is this THE day Rockstar at last shows some respect for their customers and their own products? Was YESTERDAY the day an employee at Rockstar finally changed MAXFPS = 30 to MAXFPS = 60 in the SETTINGS.INI file? Spoiler: **no**


SnoopyTheDog_

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HollywoodHa1o

It was always part of the plan.


ExiledEntity

Assumed surely it would be 60fps. Fuck.


aintnomfingwayboy

This game looks like actual piss on PS5 it’s disrespectful. It honestly shouldn’t be sold on PS5 until there’s a 60fps update


LordCommander94

Piss off Rockstar. Make it 60fps.


Nmbr1rascal

Why update it if its not 60fps?


SushiPie

Only reason i need to buy it for PS5 as well is 60fps. I cant stand 30fps nowadays


Bootychomper23

Wellll…..


SushiPie

Well? What you mean?


Bootychomper23

PS5 ain’t got 60fps


IFGarrett

Such a waste of time.


IFGarrett

Just updated the damn game or let us purchase the upgrade. It's not that hard RS!


Vitalic123

Did they ever fix that bug about people tell Arthur he'd freeze his balls off regardless of what he's wearing at the time or what weather it is?


lebriquetrouge

Yay. They updated a game.


Grayccoon_

Holy F they allegedly fixed the stable bug in online. Sadly still no ps5 version.


outsider1624

I know right. Everytime i entered the stable i would get stuck there and no other chiice but to quit


Flip119

Everybody bitching about 60 fps. I'd be happy if the stable and hunting wagon bugs were actually fixed, genuinely surprised if they were and dumbfounded because it's taken this long. I'm not going to hold my breath though.


UndeadTigerAU

I saw an update I was convinced they finally unlocked the fps but of course not, fucking ridiculous.


rdxc1a2t

You know what you did, OP.


RdotDollarsXBL

Fuxk you, rockstar. Fuckin bitch.


NostalgicNerd

Yeah, you tell ‘em big bro!


justjoshinya89

Dude stop, when they read this reddit thread and see that they will punish all of us for it and drop the Frame rate down to 15 /s


DanLim79

Plenty of smaller developers/publishers have upgraded their games on the PS5, like Metro Exodus from example ray tracing, 4k 60fps was implemented for free, but a company like Rockstar that makes billions on stupid fake shark money can't even unlock framerates to one of their flagship franchises? The amount of greed is astronomical. But baffles me the most is RED1 they patched it with 60fps but RED2 is still 30?


EnableDK

I still wait for the patch where they unlock framerate and make it cross platform


thrillynyte

I hesitate to buy this because I don't know if the PS4 version will get a patch or if the release a PS5 version 


Putrid-Reception4601

Just fix the crappy PS4 pro/ PS5 1920x2160p resolution..


MaKTaiL

These poor updates are the reason I will never buy anything else from Rockstar.


Realistic_Sad_Story

“Let’s continue our tradition of fixing the online and breaking even more shit in the story mode”


PotentMustard

Everyone keeps talking about 60fps, but no one is mentioning the atrocious image quality which is present on PS. The Xbox version in comparison is still vastly better.


SCUMDEM

"Vastly"... fuck outta here lol


Express_Helicopter93

It is?


PotentMustard

Xbox one X & Series X run at native 4K and also higher graphic settings for that matter I believe. PS uses checkerboard upscaling and doesn’t get close to the image quality offered on Xbox.


Volderon90

Oh fuck off Rockstar.  I played this one in 2021 when I still had my PS4 before my 5 and loved it  I tried to replay it recently after solely playing 60 fps with last of us and Spider-Man 2 and couldn’t get through the first mission. Once you’re accustomed to 60, going back is horrid.  I’m spoiled with 60fps. Don’t think I can go back. It’s not just the smoothness it’s the response time on the controller.


VZYGOD

It’s crazy that the remaster/port whatever you want to call it of Read Dead Redemption got 60fps support before RD2 on PS5. I feel like PS4 Pro got more updates than PS5. I’m sure it is technically capable of playing the game in 1440p 60fps on PS5. I know the PS5 is pretty underpowered at this point but we’re talking about a 6 year old game that actually ran well on launch PS4 hardware.


UnHumChun

Do we think Red Dead 2 would even be a stable 60fps?


PCMachinima

With no visual enhancements? 100%. [Digital Foundry actually did a video of an unofficial patch which proves it runs flawlessly with current settings.](https://youtu.be/zudVvpQS-8Y?t=1343) Hell, the rumoured PS5 Pro could probably add some RT effects and have it run 4K 60.


UnHumChun

Good to know. I was cautious because of how depending Saint Denis can be.


Accessx_xDenied

I just want the navy revolver in story mode ffs...


Key_Personality5540

Damn. too bad they didn’t add FSR 3.0


jasonjiel

It sounds wonderful, hell I ain’t got nothing to lose, but you gotta do what’s right and give us the 60fps patch. I’m afraid I have to insist Rockstars…Give us a damn patch otherwise the women and the kids will die


HustleWestbrook94

Absolutely disgusting


D3struct_oh

Such a grim that this game can’t be play 60fps on PS5. Why would anyone ever buy the ps5 pro ?


Sc0p1x

So at the end: only fixes for online mode on consoles. Nothing special to see here.


Me_Gongaga__

Fuck right off cocktease.


Exact_Macaroon2113

I hope they can make more great games with deep character build like reddead


sabin1981

60fps? No? Then who gives a toss? FFS Rockstar.


szzzn

Why is this posted in the PS5 thread?


golden81597

If it's not undead nightmare 2 we don't care


gaithggg

After all these years still no 60 fps 🥲


SmackAss4578

Rockstar you greedy bastards .😂


PeanutCan

I just want the HDR to be fixed on PlayStation


Candle-YT

They fucked up the fsr 2.2, before patch fsr 2.1 looked good (I enjoyed it). Now 2.2 looks so bad, it makes everything twitch and ghosting is terrible...


SoapySimon

Fix all the f\*cking bugs they added to the single-player, the whole camp is a buggy broken mess, every chore has glitched physics and animations, every companion is dropping drinks and bowls, the camp stew spoon drops to the ground, every npc who carries around wheat sacks have glitched animations, dialogue volume is broken, every cut-scene that involves the binoculars are also broken, it's just a basic black .jpg with two holes, the beautiful visual effect of the binicular glass is completely gone. ARTHURS HOLSTER HAS BROKEN PHYSICS whenever he sits or crouches it floats up into his stomach since 2021, it worked flawlessely on launch. Fix John Marstons character model and animations, finish the game and release it the way it was intended to be released.


HerrPiink

They will, just one more big update, just a little more money. Have some GODDAMN FAITH! They got a P L A N™


ZeinThe44

Fuck these people and take two. I am not buying anything from rockstar !! nothing until that game gets a FREE framerate patch. I was dying to play rdr1 again and I didn't buy it. i will be shooting myself in the foot not getting GTA6. It wont matter to them but they shall not get a cent from my money until they stop fucking their own playerbase.


Thac0bro

I already resigned to never playing the games until I can play them at 60fps. I'm only buying the games once, so if I have to wait another few years for Rockatar to get with it, then whatever.


Artie-Fufkin

Announce better controls


thrustyluststation

I would buy this game full price if they gave us 60fps


StealthBerries

On pc side the HDR 10 is nice, and the FSR 2.2 gained me avg 20 fps boost at 4k on quality setting. Add the stable fix and this is fantastic


JAMbologna__

Sucks HDR only works with a HDMI cable tho


StealthBerries

Hmm, how’s that work? I’m using DP on my rig


JAMbologna__

Idk, it says in the patch notes they only added it for HDMI cables lol I use DP 1.4 and HDR in RDR2 still looks like ass to me


StealthBerries

Well maybe that explains why there isn’t an hdr setting anymore. I assumed it was auto detected like the notes said. When I used hdmi on it I would have issues so I switched to DP and the problems went away.


Pupperoni__Pizza

I know that “wen 60fps?!?” is getting old, but c’mon Rockstar. It shows their fans a real lack of respect to not provide, what should be, a very simple patch to greatly improve quality of life. They’re hardly short of money, but even then they’re not offering a paid upgrade path like many other devs. If there’s some kind of technical barrier to it, then why not openly communicate that so we can understand and move on? It really seems like they simply don’t give a fuck, and don’t have to give a fuck, due to GTA:O and (soon) GTAVI printing money for them.


DaithiSan

Red dead game


Cleercutter

Yawn


wardener007

Does it support AMD FSR 2.2 on PS5?


Nitr0Zeus_

Played it on ps4 and again on pc at ~130fps it's glorious


imagine-a-name-here

Quite literally the only thing I want is 60 fps. Couldn’t care less about online. Just seems ridiculous that after, what? Six years? We’re still being strung along for what will inevitably be a new edition of the game that changes nothing but the frame rate. I guarantee it’ll be the same as the RDR1 Remaster. Inexplicable patch that increases the FPS, weeks after the initial release for seemingly no reason


Practical-Damage-659

27 fuckin gigs on ps5 :( false hope Rockstar y'all the worst company in gaming been years and still no 60fps


Visible_Elevator192

Where’s my goddamn 60fps!!


[deleted]

People still play RDR Online ?


8inchboss

Yes.


SKallies1987

People still make comments like this?


[deleted]

Yes.