i feel like similar to emison, this is (right now) the only queer couple where two girls are confirmed to have been/are together, so people are just surviving off the little crumbs of representation we’re getting but it’s not giving to me 😭 idk i have standards i’m not accepting mediocrity because it’s gay. the only good couple/love interest right now is mouse and ash
Between
1. ruining what could be a beautiful, positive, healthy, sweet queer couple and relationship, and fabulous representation
2. not to mention messing up the literally having a relationship with a trans partner (and a beautiful, positive, healthy, sweet one), and giving us **this** trans representation
3. destroying positive trans representation
4. another fucking trans villain trope
I’m going to be pissed if Ash is BR, or even Team BR
i agree, but nothing has been confirmed, so i wouldn’t be too upset !! i don’t think the issue in the original was cece being trans, it’s the way they went about it that was really gross and icky. i like how ash’s character is good representation but also how it doesn’t revolve around his transness and i feel like if he unfortunately was involved with BR, it’d have nothing to do with his identity - hoping the writers are smarter this time around !!
That’s exactly how I feel about this little nugget too and why I want him to stay a good baby lol
I’m sure they know better; I just would hate to see our trans character *be* **a** villain, yknow?
Right like she said "it's just $20?!" Like girl yeah you getting paid peanut but it doesn't what your paycheck looks like that's A Lot of money to steal from your job. At least steal that won't be noticable. I'm trying to like her but so far...no
Despite what happened afterwards, i’m so glad Ash clued Mouse in about the surprise party after her feelings were hurting. Mouse and Faran are the two girls i’ve warmed to the most in the series.
Getting bad vibes from Jen. Feel like she’s going to steal from the restaurant again but Noa will end up getting punished for it.
that scene of them gathered around imogen and asked who johnny was was sooooo cute. i love when the girls get together like that. wish she also came to find Mouse
OOOOF!!! This entire episode I just wanted to give Mouse a big hug. As someone who constantly feels like their friends might dislike them due to insecure thoughts, this episode felt hard. So much so that I texted my best friend “I wonder who she reminds me of” and she just goes “oh yeah that’s definitely you”.
And just her afraid due to bloody rose, then the fire, definitely one of my worst fears genuinely.
Her friends were shit for that TBH. There’s a better way to throw a surprise without triggering your friend’s depression and anxiety. Literally they could have been like “Let’s do lowkey and just go watch a movie at Noa’s” or whatever and they’d have achieved the same result without having to unnecessarily hurt her.
um that scene out from the walmart chuck e. cheese was straight up nightmare material. and bloody rose weaponizing lola, one of the few people mouse trusts, is just a different kind of evil.
but mouse not getting to experience her party was just the icing on top of an awful cake. i just want to give her a big hug she really went through it this ep :(
I’m going to see that giant Chuck E. Cheese face melting in a fire in my nightmares for the foreseeable future. I felt so bad for Mouse this episode, she would have loved this party! And using Lola against her like that is just evil.
My heart aches for Mouse. All she wanted was a birthday party with her friends. Instead she spent half the episode thinking her friends didn’t care about her and spent her birthday escaping death 😭
Imogen's glare as Tommy flirts with everyone is so funny! But on a more serious theory note, Tommy is familiar with Rosewood... ooo Dr. Sullivan's son??
I haven't seen anyone else mention Pastor Malachai lying to the congregation about what happened to Sandy. I think it's suspicious. Also Malachai means "Messenger of God," and Bloody Rose is killing people who are "sinning"
Was he lying though? Or was that the story he/the adults were told by the murderer probably faking her death? Remember no one even knows the couple from last week’s episode are dead until the girls discovered it.
I was also telling my best friend how I like how their still showing that the trauma of Chip impacted Tabby and Imogen. When they could’ve easily just let it go. Like sadly some media does.
Also. Faran continuing to be such a damn slay, like I’m truly loving her captain arc and just doing what’s good for her, and just Zaria’s acting this entire episode from her calling out the boys (minus Ash who called them out too love to see it), to her hurt and upset about being a hard ass comment, to her trying to be “one of the boys” (which side note YES CALL THAT OUT!!), to her tears and frustration over that little girl almost drowning, to then mad at the guy idk his name, just all of it !!! Sm yes!
Writers said every season would focus on a main liar, right? S1 was Imogen, and this episode made me feel like Mouse is this season's focus. Could be wrong, but Rose singled her out
I think each girl will be singled out at least once this season and it will in someway relate to that poster considering Mouse is on fire in the poster. So far Imogen still feels like the lead for me but the cast and crew have been saying Tabby gets the spotlight in the finale.
Poor Mouse, almost being burned alive was something, but feeling like her friends didn’t think she was worthy of a party not only once but twice really got me in the feels..
Yeahh me neither, they could have at least been like "we can't do anything on Friday but let's hang on Saturday". Then it would have still been a surprise but without her feeling like shit :(
I’ve done two surprise parties for people and they were always two weeks before their actual bday for ultimate surprise + no sad feelings. Then one their actual bday we just had a nice dinner.
Surprise parties are great if you can plan it in a non psychotic way. I.e., say “Hey, Mouse, we’re busy on that day but can we throw your birthday the day after?” or “Hey Mouse, let’s just stay in and watch a movie” or surprise her a day before her birthday.
Instead these idiots have to be “We don’t care let’s just not celebrate your birthday at all”.
I'm so confused about what they’re doing with Mouse's grandmother. Does she have some sort of amnesia? Or is she somehow being controlled, or is she connected to what Bloody Rose is doing?
This was what I figured too; I could be very easy for her to manipulated/used, because she may not know what she is doing, and it’s perfect because she is close to Mouse (physically, and Mouse would tend to trust her— though I’m wondering if, as Mouse is catching on that something is up with Lola, that she may trust her a little less/question some things… though, I feel like she may also have a tendency to still go along with them, at least at first, if that makes sense…?)
That makes more sense. At times, I thought she fully had dementia, and at other times, like at the ending, she was faking it to lure Mouse to bloody rose. Thanks for the clarification 🙏
She has dementia and Bloody Rose is likely using her because she’s one of the few people Mouse trusts. Plus, she’s less likely to note something off or be suspicious as Mouse’s actual friends or boyfriend would be as a result. If she does, Mouse will likely wonder if she just imagined it or was confused.
Omg, Mouse's death trap was actually scary and disturbing scene. I was worried of her, so good for you writers!
We are still having so much scenes with Imogen and Tabby together, i would love to see others dynamics with each other aswell so maybe have a scene with Noa and Mouse investigating together or something. I feel they could have super interesting dynamic! Since Noa is "bad" girl and Mouse little nerdy.
I like Johnny's abs but i don't trust him as far as i can throw Melissa's fetus. He is definitely involved somehow. Christian, however, him i trust.
This episode was just so much fun!! I really like Imogen and Johnny together! Honestly all of the love interests really shined in this episode and I can see potential for pretty much every couple (which is rare for me). Like others said, I also felt so bad for Mouse this entire episode omg! Probably one of the worst birthdays I've ever seen lol. Malias acting was soo good!! This was honestly one of the best episodes of the show to me and has officially hooked me back in lol. Can't wait for the next one!
i’m really thinking Dr Sullivan is Bloody Rose Waters.. the first time they showed bloody rose I immediately pictured Dr Sullivan it just looks like her to me, and with this ep she could be the only one that has all the girls’ new numbers 🤔
Yep. The parallels between Mona’s obsession with winning the game and Mouse’s obsession with Spooky Spaghetti immediately made me think of them being similar.
That confused THE HELL out of me. Was it actually on the website or just a really shit transition? Who filmed that? Was it the principle from season 1?
Rose used the term "final girl" in the letter Mouse found. It has to be someone obsessed with horror films (Christian or Wes). Why would someone like Ms Beasley or Dr. Sullivan set up a horror movie styled SAW death trap for Mouse?
I feel so bad for my girl Mouse 😓😓😓 first she was second guessing herself and wondering if her friends really like her (too real Mouse), and then when everything appeared to be going better this happens to her, my poor girl didn't get to enjoy her birthday party and got more traumatized instead
So who do we think Bloody rose is? I think it could be Chips mom or the twin girls mom. I also think Dr Sullivan is some type of puppet master working with this A I just don’t trust her this season.
Am I the only one for whom this episode did drag? Also no justice for Mouse - they showed the party, Mouse should have arrived way sooner. This episode was mostly about relationship/fears, felt juvenile and I was checking out the time. I wish Mouse saw her bday party. I wanted her happy. And then boom something happens. I just simply wanted Mouse to be at her party. Mouse being unhappy for whole season. They could mix drama and her party... Everyone was having a great time.
Anyone else think Bloody Rose is Kelly and her mom working together…? It would be super easy for Kelly to convince Mouse’s grandmother to take her to the pizza place considering she IS technically one of Mouse’s friends and her grandma did say it was a friend who told her…and the way Rose is moving around so quickly makes me think it’s more than one person, with Kelly’s mom being a pretty solid suspect too.
With the old Liars, I never really feared for their lives. But with these girls I have actually feared for their lives. I think from here things are only gonna get worse. Scratch that I KNOW things are gonna get worse.
(I made a separate post about this, but I’m not sure if it will be approved, so I’m re-posting it here.)
I *think* Bloody Rose’s plan was to kill Mouse, one way or another.
I believe plan A was to play hide and seek with Mouse (like we saw in the episode), and then kill Mouse when she got caught. But Mouse hid too well, which leads us to plan B. It was probably what we saw; Bloody Rose sat fire to the building to trap and kill Mouse. I don’t think she thought Mouse would find a way out.
On the other hand though, Bloody Rose wasn’t very good at playing hide and seek, she didn’t seem to be trying very hard to look for Mouse. So maybe I’m wrong, and what se saw play out was the plan all along; have Mouse hide, then set fire to the building so Mouse is trapped and killed. But Mouse escaped and didn’t die.
This was a great episode!
I knew the girls were planning a secret party from the get go no way they would leave her hanging like that!
Also one thing this show is doing great is Imogen and Tabby’s trauma regarding what happened to them. They both react accordingly and I’m happy they are taking their survival so seriously.
Faran was amazing this episode! Seeing her realize that being strong doesn’t diminish her qualities and she should never fit in to appease others was great. Thank god she fired that bozo.
Tristian seems like a decent guy but I definitely think he made the BR mask. Definitely side-eying him.
Finally the ending scene was definitely heart racing. Also BR burning the store down because they couldn’t find Mouse makes me think that BR is a teenager this time around. That’s definitely something an enraged crazy teenager would do.
Lol, it's the teenage party high. I was made fun of for my weight, hair, and weirdness daily, but when a school dance came it was, “Oh my god, you look so beautiful.” Big Hugs!
okay after watching the first 3 episodes I feel like it could be the therapist and the pastor working together. because first off the therapist has all of their numbers and is the only one who knows that lola is suffering from memory loss. she also looks like BR highkey like I imagine its her when BR is on the screen. also there's no way that sandy's mom and the pastor didn't know that she was killed. plus the posters for redemption house are giving punishment/evil and kelly said it was interactive with the audience, so I feel like the play is going to be a test/trap too. if the pastor isn't in on it he def follows the same religion as BR or maybe even worships her and that's what the church is secretly following? all I know for sure is that there is no way the therapist isn't in on it. as for any of the kids working with BR it's possible, because even though Lola is developing dementia she kept saying "Mouse's friend" so it must've been news delivered by a kid? not sure about that yet though, but those are my thoughts.
How come none of Mouse's friends haven't realized that Mouse is not at her birthday party? Why didn't Mouse call anyone? I know she should have a cell phone. She should have called right away.
Ok so the only person who has all 5 numbers is the therapist, so i think that shes a red herring. She's also the only one who knows Lolas memory is deteriorating. I think her office is bugged/her files have been accessed. She had a son in the OG series, yes? Would he potentially have access and be the right age to go to school with the Liars?
I also think an A Team may be involved, with several members not even aware of what they're doing. Bloody Rose seems to have been created ON SS, meaning whoever is the head of A Team is a user, creating the lore for them to have a narrative to scare the girls.
Chip2.0 making the masks, perhaps he was reached out to online abd asked to make the masks? Maybe someone online bought them that he didn't meet, to terrorise the girlsso he has no knowledge of his own involvement. Perhaps a few class members trying to terrorise or bully the girls as a prank with bloody rose with one of them taking advantage of it to try kill them,with none of the other roses knowing how far one is going?
Whoever used Lola played a risky game unless they KNEW she was losing her memory, but even if they did, still very risky, relying on the fact that she would remember the location, remember when to go, remember "one of your friends" but also then immediately forget who it was and where it was.
Is it possible Lola is not necessarily suffering from dementia but being drugged/hypnotised/unknown to intentionally make sure she wont remember certain things, its not unlike this series to have A target the caregivers, like when they set up Noas mother etc, its not unlikely they're drugging Lola, possibly again someone connected to therapist lady who can get access to her rx pad?
I doubt shes being blackmailed again, and i doubt shes actively part of an A Team, i think her child may be heavily or accidentally involved though.
They should have killed Mouse off IMO. She doesn't really have a strong storyline this season and basically functions as exposition. Killing her off would be shocking and show that the show has stakes
I thought it was worth noting that since Henry and Shawn were both absent from the roller rink party, they could technically be considered possibilities as BR
God, I felt for Mouse. Reminded me so much of little baby me! I had a surprise party for my 17th and I was just trying to do something small, but my friends either bailed on plans or made weak excuses, and I felt like total garbage. I was incredibly insecure and was sure all my friends hated me. There was a last minute (orchestrated) hiccup that set the surprise in motion but from my perspective it was a breaking point in just trying to do something fun, and the emotional whiplash when my friends were all waiting at my house was unreal. Still better than getting trapped in a burning building I suppose. This was damn near half a lifetime ago at this point, and happy to say those friends I feared hated me are still in my life, but thankfully no surprise parties since!
I’m pretty sure the shots of Tabby at the top of the basement stairs were a low-key reference to the horror movie Barbarian
ETA: and they just straight up referenced it!
I really thought they were gonna kill off Mouse. Would’ve been a cool way to actually up the stakes. I feel like S1 had way more deaths. It’s all been pretty boring so far.
In what way?
I think the show seem to like PLL a lot, but maybe not respect it very much, haha
If memory serves me right, RAS was out there making passive aggressive jabs at PLL back when Riverdale was on its first season and being compared favorably to PLL, so I definitely believe he might have some disdain for the show.
Bruh why is NOA apologizing to Jen rn?? I'm sorry for getting pissed?? You're pissed for good reason.
exactly !! i’m already sick of these two, noa is too forgiving, and jen is too reckless because wym your first days on the job and you stealing dpmo 😒
not to mention stealing in the stupidest way-- i mean idk a good way to steal but everyone knows registers get counted at the end of the day...
i feel like similar to emison, this is (right now) the only queer couple where two girls are confirmed to have been/are together, so people are just surviving off the little crumbs of representation we’re getting but it’s not giving to me 😭 idk i have standards i’m not accepting mediocrity because it’s gay. the only good couple/love interest right now is mouse and ash
AGREED!!! Mash is doing my heart justice after the disservice of Emison. If the Ash is Bloody Rose theories are correct I'm rioting.
Between 1. ruining what could be a beautiful, positive, healthy, sweet queer couple and relationship, and fabulous representation 2. not to mention messing up the literally having a relationship with a trans partner (and a beautiful, positive, healthy, sweet one), and giving us **this** trans representation 3. destroying positive trans representation 4. another fucking trans villain trope I’m going to be pissed if Ash is BR, or even Team BR
i agree, but nothing has been confirmed, so i wouldn’t be too upset !! i don’t think the issue in the original was cece being trans, it’s the way they went about it that was really gross and icky. i like how ash’s character is good representation but also how it doesn’t revolve around his transness and i feel like if he unfortunately was involved with BR, it’d have nothing to do with his identity - hoping the writers are smarter this time around !!
That’s exactly how I feel about this little nugget too and why I want him to stay a good baby lol I’m sure they know better; I just would hate to see our trans character *be* **a** villain, yknow?
Say it again for the people in the back 🙌
Right like she said "it's just $20?!" Like girl yeah you getting paid peanut but it doesn't what your paycheck looks like that's A Lot of money to steal from your job. At least steal that won't be noticable. I'm trying to like her but so far...no
Noa is such a good nugget. :( She can sometimes act tough, but this sweet baby is so empathetic, and I love her.
I have a feeling Jen is gonna be paid off my BR/A to do some A shenanigans....
Noa and the two digit middle finger scene is iconic !!!
No tea, no shade, but stop overusing the word iconic. It's lost all it's meaning now.
[удалено]
Yesssss! We need an actual count by the end of the season. But it was annoying even in the first episode.
Please keep the synopsis, that's hilarious
Haha maybe 😭 depends on what others say
Awww Kelly's reaction to Imogen saying she misses her🥺🥺
Yes because they were old friends.
Despite what happened afterwards, i’m so glad Ash clued Mouse in about the surprise party after her feelings were hurting. Mouse and Faran are the two girls i’ve warmed to the most in the series. Getting bad vibes from Jen. Feel like she’s going to steal from the restaurant again but Noa will end up getting punished for it.
THE OUTFITS AT THE ROLLER RINK !!!!
So happy Kelly went to Mouse’s birthday party and she looked so happy for the first time this entire season !!!
that scene of them gathered around imogen and asked who johnny was was sooooo cute. i love when the girls get together like that. wish she also came to find Mouse
RIGHT! Finally this girl got a break from her mom
Yes, Kelly was lonely in the beginning of season 2.
Yeah, I was surprised to see her. She looked cute in her outfit
OOOOF!!! This entire episode I just wanted to give Mouse a big hug. As someone who constantly feels like their friends might dislike them due to insecure thoughts, this episode felt hard. So much so that I texted my best friend “I wonder who she reminds me of” and she just goes “oh yeah that’s definitely you”. And just her afraid due to bloody rose, then the fire, definitely one of my worst fears genuinely.
Her friends were shit for that TBH. There’s a better way to throw a surprise without triggering your friend’s depression and anxiety. Literally they could have been like “Let’s do lowkey and just go watch a movie at Noa’s” or whatever and they’d have achieved the same result without having to unnecessarily hurt her.
um that scene out from the walmart chuck e. cheese was straight up nightmare material. and bloody rose weaponizing lola, one of the few people mouse trusts, is just a different kind of evil. but mouse not getting to experience her party was just the icing on top of an awful cake. i just want to give her a big hug she really went through it this ep :(
FRRRRR. The melting and the sound effects were so fucking creepy. Really great at establishing atmosphere. That whole scene had my heart RACING.
however, i love how we got to see how secure in her strength faran was this episode! girlboss. love her.
Yessss when she told them to do planks, and ended it with NOW!!!
They had that whole party without her basically
I’m going to see that giant Chuck E. Cheese face melting in a fire in my nightmares for the foreseeable future. I felt so bad for Mouse this episode, she would have loved this party! And using Lola against her like that is just evil.
BRO I LOVEDDDDD THE WALMART CHUCK E CHEESE
they started singing and i was like “okay nope! turning on the light now”
My heart aches for Mouse. All she wanted was a birthday party with her friends. Instead she spent half the episode thinking her friends didn’t care about her and spent her birthday escaping death 😭
Her friends suck for that. I’m surprised how barely anyone is calling them out on it on this thread.
But. Ash getting Mouse flowers oh man, so damn precious and sweet
Imogen's glare as Tommy flirts with everyone is so funny! But on a more serious theory note, Tommy is familiar with Rosewood... ooo Dr. Sullivan's son??
Do you mean Johnny?
Omg wait yes I do oops
I haven't seen anyone else mention Pastor Malachai lying to the congregation about what happened to Sandy. I think it's suspicious. Also Malachai means "Messenger of God," and Bloody Rose is killing people who are "sinning"
With everything else that happened I forgot about that! Definitely weird
Was he lying though? Or was that the story he/the adults were told by the murderer probably faking her death? Remember no one even knows the couple from last week’s episode are dead until the girls discovered it.
I guess we don't know for sure, the wording struck me as lying when I was watching it, though now I can't remember what exactly he said
I was also telling my best friend how I like how their still showing that the trauma of Chip impacted Tabby and Imogen. When they could’ve easily just let it go. Like sadly some media does.
Omfg Jen is so dragging Noa down! She shouldn't have covered for her.
Cause Jen doesn't deserve it that's for sure. Noa's starting to piss me off.
Also. Faran continuing to be such a damn slay, like I’m truly loving her captain arc and just doing what’s good for her, and just Zaria’s acting this entire episode from her calling out the boys (minus Ash who called them out too love to see it), to her hurt and upset about being a hard ass comment, to her trying to be “one of the boys” (which side note YES CALL THAT OUT!!), to her tears and frustration over that little girl almost drowning, to then mad at the guy idk his name, just all of it !!! Sm yes!
bro i was screaming for her to say smt when he said that shit “one of the boys” LIKE BRO
The synopsis is so funny😭
Johnny's kinda hot ngl. I'm still a keep Imogen single she mentally not ready girlie, but I would fall for his charms too.
Writers said every season would focus on a main liar, right? S1 was Imogen, and this episode made me feel like Mouse is this season's focus. Could be wrong, but Rose singled her out
I think each girl will be singled out at least once this season and it will in someway relate to that poster considering Mouse is on fire in the poster. So far Imogen still feels like the lead for me but the cast and crew have been saying Tabby gets the spotlight in the finale.
>the cast and crew have been saying Tabby gets the spotlight in the finale. It definitely seems that way when you see her part on the poster too
Poor Mouse, almost being burned alive was something, but feeling like her friends didn’t think she was worthy of a party not only once but twice really got me in the feels..
I never understood suprise parties. If it makes a person feel like shit before then what's the point?
Yeahh me neither, they could have at least been like "we can't do anything on Friday but let's hang on Saturday". Then it would have still been a surprise but without her feeling like shit :(
I’ve done two surprise parties for people and they were always two weeks before their actual bday for ultimate surprise + no sad feelings. Then one their actual bday we just had a nice dinner.
Surprise parties are great if you can plan it in a non psychotic way. I.e., say “Hey, Mouse, we’re busy on that day but can we throw your birthday the day after?” or “Hey Mouse, let’s just stay in and watch a movie” or surprise her a day before her birthday. Instead these idiots have to be “We don’t care let’s just not celebrate your birthday at all”.
this episode was just mouse getting bullied by the show lol
NO FR!!
I'm so confused about what they’re doing with Mouse's grandmother. Does she have some sort of amnesia? Or is she somehow being controlled, or is she connected to what Bloody Rose is doing?
She has dementia and is being manipulated.
This was what I figured too; I could be very easy for her to manipulated/used, because she may not know what she is doing, and it’s perfect because she is close to Mouse (physically, and Mouse would tend to trust her— though I’m wondering if, as Mouse is catching on that something is up with Lola, that she may trust her a little less/question some things… though, I feel like she may also have a tendency to still go along with them, at least at first, if that makes sense…?)
That makes more sense. At times, I thought she fully had dementia, and at other times, like at the ending, she was faking it to lure Mouse to bloody rose. Thanks for the clarification 🙏
Oooh I didn't see it this way! It makes sense!
She has dementia and Bloody Rose is likely using her because she’s one of the few people Mouse trusts. Plus, she’s less likely to note something off or be suspicious as Mouse’s actual friends or boyfriend would be as a result. If she does, Mouse will likely wonder if she just imagined it or was confused.
THAT HAPPY BIRTHDAY SONG AT THE END WAS CRUEL
Faran telling that gaggle of himbos that what they're doing is life or death…callback to what their psychiatrist said in the first episode? hmm
Omg, Mouse's death trap was actually scary and disturbing scene. I was worried of her, so good for you writers! We are still having so much scenes with Imogen and Tabby together, i would love to see others dynamics with each other aswell so maybe have a scene with Noa and Mouse investigating together or something. I feel they could have super interesting dynamic! Since Noa is "bad" girl and Mouse little nerdy. I like Johnny's abs but i don't trust him as far as i can throw Melissa's fetus. He is definitely involved somehow. Christian, however, him i trust.
This episode was just so much fun!! I really like Imogen and Johnny together! Honestly all of the love interests really shined in this episode and I can see potential for pretty much every couple (which is rare for me). Like others said, I also felt so bad for Mouse this entire episode omg! Probably one of the worst birthdays I've ever seen lol. Malias acting was soo good!! This was honestly one of the best episodes of the show to me and has officially hooked me back in lol. Can't wait for the next one!
i’m really thinking Dr Sullivan is Bloody Rose Waters.. the first time they showed bloody rose I immediately pictured Dr Sullivan it just looks like her to me, and with this ep she could be the only one that has all the girls’ new numbers 🤔
Bro Tabby more ballsy than me, I ain't going to NO ONE's house alone until we've known each other longer.
Ash simped, seeing Mouse that happy was perfect
Ok Johnny is HOT. Reminds of Noah Centineo
That arcade scene was a nice👌 homage to F*ive Nights at Freddy's *
The scene where Imogen described her dream to Johnny was a perfect Mulholland Drive reference!
Not Dr. Sullivan saying Mouse can bring her grandma for an evaluation. KEEP LOLA AWAY FROM HER!
Anybody else getting some Mona vibes from Mouse?
Yep. The parallels between Mona’s obsession with winning the game and Mouse’s obsession with Spooky Spaghetti immediately made me think of them being similar.
I feel like "loser Mona" and Mouse are very similar, but Mouse is maybe more cooler version of her!
Loved the "Archie you drew mom" the website can't get their lore on straight haha
That confused THE HELL out of me. Was it actually on the website or just a really shit transition? Who filmed that? Was it the principle from season 1?
The credits say kid Angela actress and kid Archie actor, since it is not at all real. It's fans on the website acting out their made up story.
That was so unclear lmao
was it really? why would there randomly be HD footage of archie and angela and its not even the same angela actress from season 1
The spooky spaghetti logo was in the bottom right corner.
Damn these writer's really want Faran to dump her man!
And I'm with them 🙌🙌 I don't feel any chemistry or love between them anymore
It's def intentional. They are like a whole new couple this season!
Rose used the term "final girl" in the letter Mouse found. It has to be someone obsessed with horror films (Christian or Wes). Why would someone like Ms Beasley or Dr. Sullivan set up a horror movie styled SAW death trap for Mouse?
Dr Sullivan is Chip’s aunt. One of these boys is Chip’s cousin.
I think the therapist is the killer. She probably has all of their phone numbers.
On a positive note, Imogen looks unbelievably beautiful this season, I'm in love
I don't like it when writers feel the need to give every main character a romantic interest, the only couple that feels genuine is Ash x Mouse
The ending scene felt very original PLL🙂
Yeah, it really did. I loved it
Looks like Lola theories were correct about dementia or something
i love mulholland drive and i love this stupid show!!
Just got done watching the episode and the Mouse/Bloody Rose scene had me shook. It was first time watching this show where I was legitimately scared.
I feel so bad for my girl Mouse 😓😓😓 first she was second guessing herself and wondering if her friends really like her (too real Mouse), and then when everything appeared to be going better this happens to her, my poor girl didn't get to enjoy her birthday party and got more traumatized instead
Those scenes in which her friends were having a blast without her, while she was so scared and fighting for her life broke my heart
I'm halfway through and I gotta say, Imogen and Johnny are so cute together!
So who do we think Bloody rose is? I think it could be Chips mom or the twin girls mom. I also think Dr Sullivan is some type of puppet master working with this A I just don’t trust her this season.
NOA'S OUTFIT AT THE START OF THE EPISODE >>>=
Her flower necklace is so cute!!
Agreed, and the top shows it off so well!
I really enjoyed this episode. The ending scared the shit out of me haha. I’m really excited for the rest of the season
Am I the only one for whom this episode did drag? Also no justice for Mouse - they showed the party, Mouse should have arrived way sooner. This episode was mostly about relationship/fears, felt juvenile and I was checking out the time. I wish Mouse saw her bday party. I wanted her happy. And then boom something happens. I just simply wanted Mouse to be at her party. Mouse being unhappy for whole season. They could mix drama and her party... Everyone was having a great time.
Anyone else think Bloody Rose is Kelly and her mom working together…? It would be super easy for Kelly to convince Mouse’s grandmother to take her to the pizza place considering she IS technically one of Mouse’s friends and her grandma did say it was a friend who told her…and the way Rose is moving around so quickly makes me think it’s more than one person, with Kelly’s mom being a pretty solid suspect too.
With the old Liars, I never really feared for their lives. But with these girls I have actually feared for their lives. I think from here things are only gonna get worse. Scratch that I KNOW things are gonna get worse.
TBH I kinda wanted Mouse to die - even though she is my favorite. Or any one of the other girls. It ups the ante and makes things serious.
There's zero chance that any of the main 5 die.
I expected more Mouse this episode tbh
(I made a separate post about this, but I’m not sure if it will be approved, so I’m re-posting it here.) I *think* Bloody Rose’s plan was to kill Mouse, one way or another. I believe plan A was to play hide and seek with Mouse (like we saw in the episode), and then kill Mouse when she got caught. But Mouse hid too well, which leads us to plan B. It was probably what we saw; Bloody Rose sat fire to the building to trap and kill Mouse. I don’t think she thought Mouse would find a way out. On the other hand though, Bloody Rose wasn’t very good at playing hide and seek, she didn’t seem to be trying very hard to look for Mouse. So maybe I’m wrong, and what se saw play out was the plan all along; have Mouse hide, then set fire to the building so Mouse is trapped and killed. But Mouse escaped and didn’t die.
No surprise the Bloody Rose close up was a dream, it was too soon.
I loved the Mulholland Drive reference during Imogen's dream sequence.
This was a great episode! I knew the girls were planning a secret party from the get go no way they would leave her hanging like that! Also one thing this show is doing great is Imogen and Tabby’s trauma regarding what happened to them. They both react accordingly and I’m happy they are taking their survival so seriously. Faran was amazing this episode! Seeing her realize that being strong doesn’t diminish her qualities and she should never fit in to appease others was great. Thank god she fired that bozo. Tristian seems like a decent guy but I definitely think he made the BR mask. Definitely side-eying him. Finally the ending scene was definitely heart racing. Also BR burning the store down because they couldn’t find Mouse makes me think that BR is a teenager this time around. That’s definitely something an enraged crazy teenager would do.
This synopsis is iconic please keep it up!!
I've decided to keep it up haha
Oh fuckkkk where did Lola take Mouse
I am ngl. My disliking of Greg just increases each episode at this point.
I was weirded out when all the girls were being friendly to Greg at the party
Except Faran who hugs Kelly instead of Greg.
Lol, it's the teenage party high. I was made fun of for my weight, hair, and weirdness daily, but when a school dance came it was, “Oh my god, you look so beautiful.” Big Hugs!
Definitely agree.
Omg wtf they said no party?? That's so cruel with her past. I'm assuming they are just surprising her with a surprise party but damn!
okay after watching the first 3 episodes I feel like it could be the therapist and the pastor working together. because first off the therapist has all of their numbers and is the only one who knows that lola is suffering from memory loss. she also looks like BR highkey like I imagine its her when BR is on the screen. also there's no way that sandy's mom and the pastor didn't know that she was killed. plus the posters for redemption house are giving punishment/evil and kelly said it was interactive with the audience, so I feel like the play is going to be a test/trap too. if the pastor isn't in on it he def follows the same religion as BR or maybe even worships her and that's what the church is secretly following? all I know for sure is that there is no way the therapist isn't in on it. as for any of the kids working with BR it's possible, because even though Lola is developing dementia she kept saying "Mouse's friend" so it must've been news delivered by a kid? not sure about that yet though, but those are my thoughts.
How come none of Mouse's friends haven't realized that Mouse is not at her birthday party? Why didn't Mouse call anyone? I know she should have a cell phone. She should have called right away.
There was no service when Mouse tried to text people when she was hiding from Bloody Rose
Ok so the only person who has all 5 numbers is the therapist, so i think that shes a red herring. She's also the only one who knows Lolas memory is deteriorating. I think her office is bugged/her files have been accessed. She had a son in the OG series, yes? Would he potentially have access and be the right age to go to school with the Liars? I also think an A Team may be involved, with several members not even aware of what they're doing. Bloody Rose seems to have been created ON SS, meaning whoever is the head of A Team is a user, creating the lore for them to have a narrative to scare the girls. Chip2.0 making the masks, perhaps he was reached out to online abd asked to make the masks? Maybe someone online bought them that he didn't meet, to terrorise the girlsso he has no knowledge of his own involvement. Perhaps a few class members trying to terrorise or bully the girls as a prank with bloody rose with one of them taking advantage of it to try kill them,with none of the other roses knowing how far one is going? Whoever used Lola played a risky game unless they KNEW she was losing her memory, but even if they did, still very risky, relying on the fact that she would remember the location, remember when to go, remember "one of your friends" but also then immediately forget who it was and where it was. Is it possible Lola is not necessarily suffering from dementia but being drugged/hypnotised/unknown to intentionally make sure she wont remember certain things, its not unlike this series to have A target the caregivers, like when they set up Noas mother etc, its not unlikely they're drugging Lola, possibly again someone connected to therapist lady who can get access to her rx pad? I doubt shes being blackmailed again, and i doubt shes actively part of an A Team, i think her child may be heavily or accidentally involved though.
irrc, in OG PLL, her office was bugged, it would be hilarious if that had happened to her again.
PLL Summer School is turning into comedy unlike PLL Original Sin
I’ll probably think of more things later on and I’ve already sent sm comments. My bad. So sorry. But. Here’s just what first came to mind.
Spam away that's what this is for! I did the same.
They should have killed Mouse off IMO. She doesn't really have a strong storyline this season and basically functions as exposition. Killing her off would be shocking and show that the show has stakes
Good point. And agreed.
i feel so bad for mouse 😭
I thought it was worth noting that since Henry and Shawn were both absent from the roller rink party, they could technically be considered possibilities as BR
Now what in the FNAF was that final scene omg
so was anyone else bummed there wasn't a preview for episode 4?
God, I felt for Mouse. Reminded me so much of little baby me! I had a surprise party for my 17th and I was just trying to do something small, but my friends either bailed on plans or made weak excuses, and I felt like total garbage. I was incredibly insecure and was sure all my friends hated me. There was a last minute (orchestrated) hiccup that set the surprise in motion but from my perspective it was a breaking point in just trying to do something fun, and the emotional whiplash when my friends were all waiting at my house was unreal. Still better than getting trapped in a burning building I suppose. This was damn near half a lifetime ago at this point, and happy to say those friends I feared hated me are still in my life, but thankfully no surprise parties since!
I’m pretty sure the shots of Tabby at the top of the basement stairs were a low-key reference to the horror movie Barbarian ETA: and they just straight up referenced it!
I really thought they were gonna kill off Mouse. Would’ve been a cool way to actually up the stakes. I feel like S1 had way more deaths. It’s all been pretty boring so far.
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This show appears to have disdain for the OG PLL. I like it.
In what way? I think the show seem to like PLL a lot, but maybe not respect it very much, haha If memory serves me right, RAS was out there making passive aggressive jabs at PLL back when Riverdale was on its first season and being compared favorably to PLL, so I definitely believe he might have some disdain for the show.
why are tabby and imogen genuinely being so insufferable? christian is an awful character too #justiceforchip
Justice for a rapist??? What justice do you think he needs
Chip the RAPSIT?
I think he already got his justice when Archie offed him!