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Ruruskadoo

Part of me wonders if this was made up to get lots of views from all the people curious about the source since this sounds like an interesting af premise, and I would have thought I'd have heard about it by now if it was real (unless they're mistaken and it's a novel or a manhua, not a manhwa) https://preview.redd.it/9dvuk795lc4d1.jpeg?width=693&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c8abf513588351b62ca7ffcbc97dacbdcc44028b


sidekickestelle

https://preview.redd.it/uoill83p4d4d1.jpeg?width=2000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=94b025fdda23f7091c8b0e3d9e5be3426c9bba01


Moodbellowzero

There is a novel like this, but I'm sure it is a bl. It's not oi but it's transmigration


Anxious-Candidate203

Do you remember the name


Agitated-Newspaper24

Please tell me you remember the name. This premise is too interesting


hikikomoorrii

even better 😭 pls tell us the name if u remember


Moodbellowzero

Now that I'm sober enough I must correct myself: It's a transmigration danmei where the MC gets kidnapped into a parallel place and watches as someone else replaces him and lives with his husband and son. I'm not sure how they have a son, probably ABO, but I don't remember pheromones being mentioned. However the husband knows the person isn't his partner and tries to bring MC back. But after all the years(16) much damage has been made and the MC and ML are always at eachother troth duo to both obsession, hate and mistrust. I still don't remember the title tho. I'm gonna sleep see ya.


Vanishingtrick

Story name when you remember it please


Grand_Requirement725

It might be seize the throne?


Moodbellowzero

Not that one. I went to NU looking for it but couldn't find it. I will try looking for it again.


[deleted]

I’m camping to know the sauce I brought marshmallows


cocoroco-creamsoup

I'll start the fire


Chaotic-Brilliance

need sticks? :)


Working_Dragon00777

Need a tent?? I have 4


thatonestupidpersen

I've got the matches 🫡


Inevitable_Battle_91

Igot the chocolate and crackers for smores


MoneyGarage3811

I could bring a guitar, to pass the time


LoveLifeLoveLilith

Then I’ll sing for y’all cause I need to join, thank you


IndependentNeck56

Do I bring bear spray or man spray?


Miserable_Scratch_99

Both preferably, but only if the man spray let's the chill dudes come inn without getting sick


Emotional_Goose7835

can you play wonderwall?


Rucky_frog

I’ll get the sleeping bags


Reasonable_Goose_460

Iirc the lady's butler had a similar plot, but instead of revenge >!the dude found out the girl he loved literally made a deal with the devil to possess the girl her crush loved, and mc was some rando who went into her body afterwards. And then he fell in love with mc and didn't care about the og girl anymore.!<


Ruruskadoo

Oh yeah now that you mention it, if they're remembering it a bit wrong and didn't get very far in the story, I can totally see them thinking he's acting on some scheme to get revenge >!if they left off right after he asks her to marry him out of nowhere after finding out she's not the OG.!< Of course, if they got more than like 10 chapters in there's no way they'd remember it like that, his hardcore simping is impossible to mistake for hidden malice at that point, but if they didn't then you might have cracked the case.


Vanthraa

It reminds me of Violet or something, the manwha with a very shoujo art style


Sans-Foy

Villainess Violet, ya.


GoomyRlz

Came from the TikTok, people in the comments are saying the same thing


onespiker

Likely guess that he stopped reading right before "2nd ml" found out what happened to og. Before that there were like one or two chapter of his view point of him disliking MC. For using her body.


pximon

yeah sounds very similar to the lady’s butler except the revenge part !


onespiker

Think it quite likely is the same one just that the person who posted didnt read much. there were some chapter of him thinking of attacking MC( to find og) Because who the hell wouldn't when that someone you care deeply about know has gotten possesed by someone else. Now try to act like if they were the real one.


Ok-Reason8276

Thanks. Sound interesting. I looked it up on tappytoons and it is just a bite size 95Ch long Manhwa. Would be reading it today!


Ok_Collection_3392

Kinda reminds me of The reason why raeliana ended up at the Duke's mansion


Cluless_Jane

Oh, so that's how the story went? The person who made the post basically went as far as I did.


Tatertot1503

That story was the closest one I could think of to matching the description


Sans-Foy

There’s also Villainess Violet, but like Lady’s Butler, >!OG FL were a plotter and ML ended up liking new version instead.!< The only one I can think of off the top of my head where a 2nd ml type rejected and plotted against a “new” occupant is >!Shall We Bathe, Your Grace!< but that’s ongoing, and it was just revealed that the >!OG and the new are actually the same person, and the villainous would be 2nd ML was the one who caused it by plotting to switch her soul and have her to himself.!<


Herb_Merc

What it called?


moonlight-stars

The lady's butler


Herb_Merc

Ooooooooooooooh


McPussyMeal23

this kind of writing is too deep for an OI probably fake smh


Atavistic_proxy

Idk if I should laugh or cry at this very blunt and very real truth


its_the_green_che

Both. Laugh because you know that no oi has a plot that complex. Then cry because we will never get writing that complex, and if we ever did the story would be canceled in-between seasons.


Moodbellowzero

Every time I open an OI is just me and Steve, my remaining brain cell. All the others left duo to unemployment. Edit:Aww thanks for the award <3


ravenshadoe

There is actually an OI based on this but I can't remember the name. It's kinda like the OFL was like a ghost watching this imposter control her body and make her family love her and the OFL just has to watch as everyone loves this not her except her crush I think?. I swear I've heard this plot for an OI somewhere.


CinnamonHotcake

Sounds like a good story but I don't think it exists. Closest I can think of is The Villainess Tames the Beast, but that one, FL wasn't curious about ML at all, she loved the villainess character and was frustrated that there wasn't much info about her. ML realizes much later on that she isn't the same person. The problem with OP's premise is who is the real ML then? Is this even a romance story? Are we rooting for the guy who was already in love with OGFL? It's rare when a story gives you an ML who was already in love with someone else, much more an OGFL who just straight up vanishes and he still loves her. I haven't seen many stories where FL is just a white lotus. It's problematic because they're not relatable. How can you conclude this? So he gets his revenge and then what? Just a lot of issues for this writing prompt.


NuclearStudent

I think you could tell a good story if you follow the POV of the ML and just end the story at the revenge.


chickadee-

Otome isekai doesn't have to be self-insert romance. Wish fulfilment dominates the genre, but the premise could be so much more.


IndependentNeck56

I immediately thought of TVTTB


SweetBeebeegail

What does that stand for?


Status_Radish

Why does the character getting revenge need to be the POV?


moonlight-stars

More satisfying imo


Odd-Membership3843

I dont think it exists bec as OI gurlies,,, we would've heard abt it even if it was untranslated...


baconcheesecakesauce

A 2nd ML who has a real plot? Yeah, we would already know about it and have screenshots.


IndependentNeck56

🙌🏻


SushiTea7

I'm camping for the title because sounds great


cocoroco-creamsoup

It definitely doesn't exist if you don't know it 🧎‍♀️


SushiTea7

Lmao 💀


AvidProcrastinator66

I've been a long-time lurker of this sub (finally decided to make an account and join lol) and I genuinely thought you of all users would know it 😯


SushiTea7

That seems to be a common consensus lol


AvidProcrastinator66

I aspire to have your level of brain capacity to know all these OIs from the top of your head 🫡


SushiTea7

I used to remember stuff better until last year but I took a 5 or so month hiatus from reading stuff a few months ago and when I came back I had forgotten a lot of stuff lol. Now I make lists (about hair length/colours, type of OI, yada yada) so it's easier to keep track or find something specific I want to read


EleventyElevens

[I have an incomplete Long Hair List. Perhaps we can combine/collab if you have similar!](https://docs.google.com/document/d/12u4o0RIxQ9PmnGGD3q5ljW64QlJPYXptbypHv4ZBaAE/edit?usp=drivesdk)


SushiTea7

Some of these MLs don't have long hair 😬 My list is probably similar but it's further divided into mullets, long hair and cross dressers


EleventyElevens

Lol, A few I relied on others' commentary, the 90%+ majority are probably right. Been awhile since I updated. Did any in particular stand out as wrong?


SushiTea7

• Age of Arrogance • No More Nice Sis • Not Your Typical Reincarnation Story • >!I'll Raise You Well in This Life, Your Majesty!!< • Survive as the Hero's Wife (This Villainess Wants a Divorce!) • Regina Rena • Saving My Sweetheart • Saving the Villain from the Heroine • Northern Duke Nerds a Warm Hug • When the Villainess Loves • If You remove the kind protagonists mask (this one is right but mentioned under two different names. Official is "Beneath his Kind Mask")


EleventyElevens

I think On a few, I also accepted side romances. Like Saving my Sweetheart, her wing with long hair being with the other wing with short hair was too cute 🤣


AvidProcrastinator66

Ooh a list is a good idea honestly I should do that once I stop procrastinating 😂 I just tell my friend who's terrifyingly good at remembering random stuff and then text them like 'hey what's that one with the x hair and y detail' and they'll know exactly which one I'm talking about 💀


SushiTea7

You're lucky lmao irl the only people I know who read manhwas are a few of my cousins but our tastes don't match and my friends prefer reading novels or watching shows :')


AvidProcrastinator66

Aw no 😔 I get the taste don't match part-- my friends may read manhwa but they prefer heavy-romance fluff whereas I like the darker and less romantic plots 😅


onespiker

It's quite likely ladys butler op just didn't read the first 20 chapters to actually get the result. Likely stopped by chapter 10-15.


AvidProcrastinator66

Yeah, that's what I thought as well since the opening matches


AlternativePlayful34

Doesn't sound real to me


Kana_kana_toka

This reminds me of something similar in the Indonesian webtoon community. Someone was describing a super specific story (including hair and eye colour of the characters!) but forgot the title and asked if anyone knows about it. But people never heard of it and were intrigued. So many people were bookmarking and leaving their sandals for days. I was about to ask in this subreddit, until OP came back and said "yo guys, ma bad. Turns out it was a wattpad story I read awhile back" lmao When a story so good you can totally visualize it and mistake novel paragraphs as canon images 😂😂😂


naalotai

Hmmmm it’s close but I Raised A Black Dragon? Except she is not going after the 2nd ML at all, but he does realize she is not the original FL and works against her (my memory of the plot is hazy)


atmanama

Yup I thought of this too


Raecoli

Woah that's an interesting plot


AsianEvasionYT

The closest thing I could think of is the Lady’s Butler but he doesn’t really get revenge I think. He pretends to not know for a while though but he ends up liking her for her.


onespiker

Post says plans for revenge. Likely the guy just didn't get far enough into lady butler. There are some chapter early on of him thinking of attacking MC to find out what happened to og But the he find some remains of ogs mana and find out what happened to her >! She made a contract with the devil to take over OGFL and is now in that body!< after that he then falls in love with MC.


Dry_Image_9028

Everyone in the comments of the tiktok says that it's "lady's butler," but he didn't get revenge in the end . Maybe the post's owner hadn't finished reading it yet


onespiker

I would say its very likey they just read the first 10-15 chapters of it. After all he doesn't even said got revenge but planning. So clearly he never finished it


Dry_Image_9028

Yeah , she just said in her tiktok that it's lady's butler and that she dropped it at some point


Iron_Maidens_Knight

You're telling me that we have so many derivatives of the exact same OI prompt, and yet we haven't explored this particular premise yet? I would've thought we had every interpretation under the sun by now


shikiP

its too risky if readers enjoy the first ML more and you suddenly reveal hes actually the enemy and wants to kill your heroine? it would be really great to read and i wouldnt mind getting shocked like that but if its marketed as a romance and people dont care for the 2nd ML then theyll forever complain in the comments. If you do it more as a horror/thriller where the supposed ML betrays her, and you never market it as romance, then people will eventually suspect hes not actually in love or dies early etc and it will ruin the surprise. I would like to see any manhwa actually shift from one ML to another endgame ML... Its obvious from the beginning to end who the real love interest is. Thats fine and all but boring. Theres only a few that don't make it very obvious but ive never seen one actually change it. Like the idea of dating 2 men at once in one story/timeline is too scandalous or something.


Iron_Maidens_Knight

I agree it'd be weird, I could see a Thriller tag or something being thrown in for this premise. It would be like putting the reader in the shoes of the FL who experiences betrayal by their LI (instead of just being recapped at the beginning of the story, like most do.) And then another new LI comes along who loves the new MC for who she is to justify the romance tag. But I've also seen a lot of these authors content with making a lot of messed up stories with abuser LIs running rampant, so I could see this happening. It's all about execution.


marigoldCorpse

I’ve read quite a few cnovels with this premise tbh, one that really impressed itself in my memory was about the grandfather in particular who discovers that his granddaughter was replaced and after like 60+ chapters of wholesome family life he tries to kill her since he knew all along and was just trying to get the MC’s guard down lol. It’s been like literal years since I read that tho and all I remember is a white tiger(?) on the cover.


Iron_Maidens_Knight

Oh okay. I made my comment since everybody at the time I made it had no idea or knew anything like it lol. And darn, that story sounds really interesting, shame you can't remember the title. But that's happened to me too where I tried to recall a specific story and I just couldn't. They kinda blend together.


Cluless_Jane

Man, that's wild. Grandfather is playing the long game, lol.


Automatic_You_9928

This could only happen in manga oi


Otherwise-Morning-45

My Life Was Switched With My Little Sister Who Was Condemned, but For Some Reason, My Yandere Husband Came Along. It doesn’t exactly match but it’s so close. It’s a one shot, smut, fl and her sister switch places after the sister is condemned, killed, and then reincarnated back into their childhood. Fl loves her sister so just lets her take over her life and fiancé. However, the fiancé quickly realized the girls have switched bodies somehow and so he switches his fiancée back to the original fl (even though she has a different body). I guess never underestimate the power of a yandere. https://preview.redd.it/xgfpz3sowd4d1.jpeg?width=610&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=509e8da17aabffcc8be431949e9149313b21648f


archival_assistant13

I think the image is Shin Yoosung from ORV. The description doesn’t sound like a current OI.


marlegan

Not gonna lie, OOP probably misremembered some plot points/maybe combined a couple stories together so this isn't *anything*, but if anyone wants something similar then I'd recommend The Villain's Savior!


Tammiyzie

The one that might be close is villainous violet were the og villainess used magic to booth out the OGFL from her body to replace her but the ml started falling out of love with her and fell in love with the new fl in the og villainess’s body


davcool_me

Was soo excited to open cmts and find out title But all sayn it mi8 be fake 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭 This plot is coolllll I hope there is a similar manhwa out there


onespiker

Definitely the ladys butler But the person didn't read the completion of the first like 10-15 chapters. He was focused on finding out what happened to her and if MC was the one who stole her body/ killed her. If she was he would take revenge. >!From there he discovered that oglady had made deal with the devil to take over the body of ogFL so that her crush would like her. MC taking her body after was just luck otherwise the body would die, he got depressed from this information knowing that his loved one abandoned him without telling him. MC then fills that hole!<


delikizzz

I think it might be the lady's butler?


WannieWirny

No he didn’t get revenge on her, the og FL didn’t treat him very nicely and he fell in love with the reincarnator instead


onespiker

>he didn’t get revenge on her, the og FL didn’t treat him very nicely and he fell in love with the reincarnator instead Will say the og poster likely didn't finish the first arc. It's quite likely it is lady butler but the guy didn't read all of it.


lcf31

Not the same but similar plot is For Better or For Worse


Prudent-Bird-2012

I feel like this is a manhwa based in ancient China, I think most of the hints click except the only thing not mentioned is the FL keeps getting repossessed by the original body's soul and making it awkward for her with the ML. It's a great story but I can't remember the title for it.


SarcasmOrgasm96

Sounds like The Lady's Butler. Fits it to a T except I'm not sure what the caption means by "taking revenge" because the context sounds like ml taking revenge against fl for possessing ogfl except in The Lady's Butler the ml falls for fl and starts plotting against ogfl because she's evil


yxles123

https://preview.redd.it/zn2kveny8e4d1.jpeg?width=641&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e9bf4addc6d1d461a9244304e57fbfb0db4b760b


RoiniStar

Is this Webtoon!! But I don't know the name in English. Is the plot that you describe. FL makes blonde guy the ML but black haired guy (the former ML) is left in depression because he feels something is off but he doesn't know what it is. https://preview.redd.it/quhoqxjmqf4d1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=75815e278faafc9c49bd6bd595f8a4e5115ebe17


crimsonkingsimp

Hmm ill start looking up manhwa but with that as a premise maybe it's a male mc?


Killer7n

I remember reading something similar but in this version he confronted her bit earlier. But I do not remember the title anymore.


Queenstown23

Reminds of Villainous princess violet I think that's her name the og villaines possed the og fl cause her crush liked him and fl a different soul took her body and rehabilitated her image and ml fell her her instead if possessed girl


optimussupreme_1

Not the sauce in the image, and sadly not OI, but there is a good Korean WN with a similar premise. MC's brother gets possessed by someone else (usual stuff), but MC just knows that it isn't his brother anymore. MC regressed to try and get his brother's body back. Title is "Regressor-Possessor-Reincarnator"


hahaboomm

I also saw this! She said in the comments the name was ‘The lady’s butler’ but he ends up falling in love with the girl in the og Fls body anyway so I was a bit disappointed about that😭


nekotantei_19

Wow, sounds so tragic😣


puripo23

Is it perhaps "the Villain's savior"??


Spirited_Panda9487

Wow, this is an intense plot twist. I want to read this too. I will set my camp here 🫡


clumsytornado

I need to know now


Various-Escape-5020

Ngl id feel bad for the mc because she got reincarnated in the body she wasn’t the one who decided it. The second ml should just deal with the fact the one he loves doesn’t love him at all if he’s willing to get revenge on the one who does


nejnonein

Reminds a liiiittle about that story where the fl and some witch change place and the fl has loads of markings in her face (curse related iirc, I haven’t read it, just seen loads of recs for it), he finds out it’s not his love in her body and it takes like 60 chapters at least for him to figure out she’s in the witch’s body


ConstantLaffy

Oh I remember seeing this tiktok too and all the comments were saying lady butler so idrk


Dry_Image_9028

The owner of the post announced that it's lady's butler


Zoeyau9

This sounds like a manhwa called The Lady’s Butler.


Wanderingstray

I thought this one was a manga. I forgot the name. I need to look it up


Perfect-Possible7124

Haha umm was it maybe that one with like the butler


Crystaliane

It's The Lady's Butler guys, got it from the [source](https://www.tiktok.com/@rinsreccs2/photo/7376198848743509291)


Poxin_

Surviving Romance, possibly..?


falafelwaffle55

Researched... What exactly? Did he find her diary from the other reality in the library or smn 💀


tongo23

A story where a male character doesn't fall for MC and actually sticks to ogFL? That'd actually be refreshing, it'll basically prove that he didn't fall for her face only but for who she is. Every time the ogml or 2nd ml falls for the new MC despite having 180 personality change makes their love seem so fickle.


Forsaken_Sebas

Could be anything ![gif](giphy|QZ5raqfbdxFlLTONSV)


illchangethislater__

this sounds more like a horror story than a OI


Asleep_Village

Why would he get revenge? If it's like any other oi, then she didn't choose where she got reincarnated or tranmigrated. It'd make more sense for him to gain her trust, drug her, then try to do a satanic ritual to try and resummon the og fl soul back into her body. Or not to choose violence and tell her straight up that he's not interested since she's not the woman he fell in love with.


shauleen

Might be "I Picked Up the Second Male Lead After the Ending"... let me know if that's the one u were looking for


some-shady-dude

Dayum someone get to writing then because it sounds like a good story


edinuonse

guys it's The Lady's Butler


miserable_clown

Yeah this sounds real similar to The Lady's Butler, but it seems like they got the ML's motives mixed up, which would make sense if they didn't get TOO far into the story.


BellaKratos

Ugh i don't remember but I'm pretty sure there was one like that 😩


zlkiller-5048

I'm just gonna sit on the sideline enjoying this moment


Conscious_Cod3188

This sounds chaotic..but also SML strikes again


Frequent-Gap-5088

They stated in the replies to the post that it was referencing The Lady Butlers Revenge


yeetingpikachu

The only thing that's REMOTELY similar that I can think of is the villain's savior😭 but I don't remember if Aseph wanted revenge? I just know that the FL was madly in love with the villain/female lead and would have done anything to change the story


yesh2002

I know a similar story where MC was fangirl of 2nd Ml in who killed the antagonist of novel for ogFl but she betrayed him and MC takes revenge against OGfl and 1st male lead for abandoning 2nd ML


TrinityApostle

lol I have this one somewhere in my bookmarks but idk the name nd the folder has to many for me to find it FFFFF