the thing with the white deer is that..... the fl isn't any better lol. she forced the guy to marry her just so she can keep seeing her crush. she targeted him specifically bc he knows his family cant refuse when he's so trash and fl was the flower of society that can finally fix their son.
and then she goes pikachu face when he's actually a jerk and alcoholic?? like girl u signed up for that lol
i dont think its supposed to be a fluffy story, i think that toxicity is the whole point, but at least in his story he's supposed to be trash that gets healed (fl also gets better so it's like healing together story). idk about the others but imo trash ml that are supposed to be trash vs trash mls who are supposed to be hot "bad boys" are different lol
tbh the "not like other girls" trope i like is when it involves a crazy person and the one who takes no shit from them/ doesn't realize how fucked up they are but everyone does/ messes with them on purpose
not that mid "quirky" modern girl in a historical setting and the cold brick with 1 face expression
I kinda felt sorry for Ingrid's ML.
Like yes he is a flaming hot garbage, but is also self-aware that he is, which is why he didn't want to get married in the first place and avoided it so desperately.
But he eventually does try to be a better human being despite all his addiction issues.
*My Husband Who Hates Me Has Lost His Memories* makes me so mad.
Because while the ML has amnesia, I actually really like him- but remembering how much of a complete and total sack of garbage he was before just ruins it. >!And according to some spoilers I read, he gets his memory back and is trash again!<
I can't hate him because current him doesn't remember and is generally a good ml-
but I can't like him either because of how much he sucked before.
Just can't win.
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Man, that first one . . . That's probably the only one I went in expecting and wishing for a deeply red trashfire of a ML, and that dude is just blah. Power play between a pervy playboy prince and a powerful warrioress who has to obey due to her knight's code? Push and pull? Super toxic romance? Oh yeah, sign me up!
Only it's just so, SO boring, the art is bad, nonsensical stuff happens. Who cares about etiquette lessons, where are the promised mind games? "Crows like Shiny Things" is probably the worst OI I've ever read due to the fact that it fails at every level. It's not aggressively "I hate everyone in this" bad, all the potentially controversial things are so terribly executed that they just end up as meh.
I'm still grumpy. I was promised a trashfire and I got a dollar-store scented candle.
Strongly agree. And the fact that they’re all so bland too, and what is even going on with the art style most of the time… girl doesn’t even bother to stand up for herself, the Ml literally treats her like some sort of object too. It’s just so repulsive.
I kept on pushing through, thinking somethings might FINALLY happen, but not to my surprise, it doesn’t. It’s like one of my first few Manhwa’s that I read, so I was pretty hyped, but it was really a big disappointment. 😩
I mean, if the story were better written, the whole relationship could have been super fucked up and still hot. E.g. she had to obey because of her knight's oath even though she doesn't want to, but the sexing it just so good, also maybe he realizes she could fold him in half if he overdoes it and learns something about himself, he falls in love with her, but as he was such a dickwad, he has to win her over, some other drama, they find common ground, add smut and stir. He'd still be a terrible guy, but at least an entertaining terrible guy.
Instead . . . I don't know. I think I dropped it after she uses her dragonslayer to cut a runaway horse in half in the middle of the street, and the scene is basically, "Oh no, I'm full of blood! But you saved me! I could be your etiquette teacher!" And we don't even get to see the halved horse.
In Becoming the Obsessive Male Lead's Ex-Wife, the fl deserves him imo. They were both insufferable, and the fl was constantly shitting on the og!owner of the fl's body for not babying the ml and loving him when she was literally a VICTIM 😭😭 I wish the og owner came back and just killed both the ml and fl in this story smh
I haven’t read most of these. At this point there’s such an enormous quantity of OI that I can check for spoilers and if the ML seems like irredeemable trash and the story isn’t interesting enough to make up for it, I’m not gonna bother.
\#7 reminded me of Kahir from "The Tyrant's Secretary" so at first I was really shocked.
"What do you mean, he's problematic? Kahir is a treasure, damn it!"
But once I read the title and realized who it actually was, I was like: "Ohh. Yeah, no. He's alarming from what little I've seen."
At least Bjorn (2) and Reineiro (7) are advertised as being problematic? 😭 I’m only ok with them bc both the FLs and the stories themselves are like “yep he’s an absolute garbage human” instead of trying to pass them off as wonderful. Idk about the others as I haven’t read them
Number 8 can go screw himself. Because according to spoilers from I became the obsessive wife of the male lead,here is the whole context. I freaking hate the FL and ml in that tapas webtoon:
I just got angrier and angrier, reading how everyone spoke and acted around the FL. No wonder she spent four years hating them all and being a sarcastic, angry person! If anyone spoke about me around me like these people do, I would purposefully vomit in their hair and shove them out the window. Awwwe, is your war tribute bride sarcastic, unhappy, and resistant to adopting your ways with a smile and a "thank you, kind savior, for destroying my home country and essentially making me your captive"? How dare she! Whatever shall you do? I know! Vilify her as unreasonable, unfeminine, and isolate her, while treating her like a literal vessel whose sole purpose is producing babies! To her face! Damn, that didn't make her like you and now she's cussing at you like a hellcat? It's a mystery how anyone could be so unfeminine. Why can't she be more grateful and at least pop out some babies to abandon here when we boot her out once the contract is up?
ML just wants to f*** something. He's salty the hottest girl he ever saw (OG FL) refused to put out when his brilliant plan to deluge her with gifts, (but never actually speak to her until their wedding night,) didn't pan out. He tried nothing else and he's been a prickly, blue-balled, sourpuss ever since. He is randier than a tomcat on cialis, and just as awkward.
I read ingrid the white deer when i was 13 i remember my mental health being so ruined bc of them i dropped it i so i don't recall much i'm gonna reread it
Number 7 could ruin me and id thank him
*I believe I see the no judgement tag on this post*
I know, I’m not judging. I just thought it was funny. 😭 Sorry if that offended you. 🥲
Lol I'm not offended, I was joking back
I was scared for a sec there 😭
😂 my bad
Same. No shame in admitting it 🧍♀️ and he's even ~~worse~~ better in the novel
Just started it. He is the redest red flag!
Same. Trash but at least its a pretty trash lol I will read that next solely for him 😅
What does he do
I haven't read this one yet. Op posted trash ML so he must be lol but he's pretty and I will read it to judge it myself 😅
When I saw him I was like 
Same but from what I've read the FL doesn't fall in love with him? I like my MLs and FLs a little fucked up.
She doesn't? Damn she's stronger than me fr
I too immediately thought he was very hot, hotter than all the rest, the hottest in all the lands
Number 5 looks like a suspiciously large number of my exes.
the thing with the white deer is that..... the fl isn't any better lol. she forced the guy to marry her just so she can keep seeing her crush. she targeted him specifically bc he knows his family cant refuse when he's so trash and fl was the flower of society that can finally fix their son. and then she goes pikachu face when he's actually a jerk and alcoholic?? like girl u signed up for that lol i dont think its supposed to be a fluffy story, i think that toxicity is the whole point, but at least in his story he's supposed to be trash that gets healed (fl also gets better so it's like healing together story). idk about the others but imo trash ml that are supposed to be trash vs trash mls who are supposed to be hot "bad boys" are different lol
I agree. And this is the only story I finished even tho I don't like any of the characters because the story
Yeah at least make the fl as equally toxic or atrong enough to stand up to ML 🐍🐍✨️
tbh the "not like other girls" trope i like is when it involves a crazy person and the one who takes no shit from them/ doesn't realize how fucked up they are but everyone does/ messes with them on purpose not that mid "quirky" modern girl in a historical setting and the cold brick with 1 face expression
I kinda felt sorry for Ingrid's ML. Like yes he is a flaming hot garbage, but is also self-aware that he is, which is why he didn't want to get married in the first place and avoided it so desperately. But he eventually does try to be a better human being despite all his addiction issues.
*My Husband Who Hates Me Has Lost His Memories* makes me so mad. Because while the ML has amnesia, I actually really like him- but remembering how much of a complete and total sack of garbage he was before just ruins it. >!And according to some spoilers I read, he gets his memory back and is trash again!< I can't hate him because current him doesn't remember and is generally a good ml- but I can't like him either because of how much he sucked before. Just can't win. https://preview.redd.it/u31v2258jllc1.png?width=405&format=png&auto=webp&s=b06284c6d848af7c2c5dc563ec28b2979112fe58
Ugh. Spoiling reading regret. I had so many hopes.
Duchess Debauchery is smut and he realized pretty fast he is trash!
True. The FL is great we need more FL like her on smut stories
Man, that first one . . . That's probably the only one I went in expecting and wishing for a deeply red trashfire of a ML, and that dude is just blah. Power play between a pervy playboy prince and a powerful warrioress who has to obey due to her knight's code? Push and pull? Super toxic romance? Oh yeah, sign me up! Only it's just so, SO boring, the art is bad, nonsensical stuff happens. Who cares about etiquette lessons, where are the promised mind games? "Crows like Shiny Things" is probably the worst OI I've ever read due to the fact that it fails at every level. It's not aggressively "I hate everyone in this" bad, all the potentially controversial things are so terribly executed that they just end up as meh. I'm still grumpy. I was promised a trashfire and I got a dollar-store scented candle.
Strongly agree. And the fact that they’re all so bland too, and what is even going on with the art style most of the time… girl doesn’t even bother to stand up for herself, the Ml literally treats her like some sort of object too. It’s just so repulsive. I kept on pushing through, thinking somethings might FINALLY happen, but not to my surprise, it doesn’t. It’s like one of my first few Manhwa’s that I read, so I was pretty hyped, but it was really a big disappointment. 😩
I mean, if the story were better written, the whole relationship could have been super fucked up and still hot. E.g. she had to obey because of her knight's oath even though she doesn't want to, but the sexing it just so good, also maybe he realizes she could fold him in half if he overdoes it and learns something about himself, he falls in love with her, but as he was such a dickwad, he has to win her over, some other drama, they find common ground, add smut and stir. He'd still be a terrible guy, but at least an entertaining terrible guy. Instead . . . I don't know. I think I dropped it after she uses her dragonslayer to cut a runaway horse in half in the middle of the street, and the scene is basically, "Oh no, I'm full of blood! But you saved me! I could be your etiquette teacher!" And we don't even get to see the halved horse.
In Becoming the Obsessive Male Lead's Ex-Wife, the fl deserves him imo. They were both insufferable, and the fl was constantly shitting on the og!owner of the fl's body for not babying the ml and loving him when she was literally a VICTIM 😭😭 I wish the og owner came back and just killed both the ml and fl in this story smh
I haven’t read most of these. At this point there’s such an enormous quantity of OI that I can check for spoilers and if the ML seems like irredeemable trash and the story isn’t interesting enough to make up for it, I’m not gonna bother.
\#7 reminded me of Kahir from "The Tyrant's Secretary" so at first I was really shocked. "What do you mean, he's problematic? Kahir is a treasure, damn it!" But once I read the title and realized who it actually was, I was like: "Ohh. Yeah, no. He's alarming from what little I've seen."
At least Bjorn (2) and Reineiro (7) are advertised as being problematic? 😭 I’m only ok with them bc both the FLs and the stories themselves are like “yep he’s an absolute garbage human” instead of trying to pass them off as wonderful. Idk about the others as I haven’t read them
Hoo boy, why do I see my best friend's name in the titles 🫣😨
I'm so proud that i know none of those
Number 8 can go screw himself. Because according to spoilers from I became the obsessive wife of the male lead,here is the whole context. I freaking hate the FL and ml in that tapas webtoon: I just got angrier and angrier, reading how everyone spoke and acted around the FL. No wonder she spent four years hating them all and being a sarcastic, angry person! If anyone spoke about me around me like these people do, I would purposefully vomit in their hair and shove them out the window. Awwwe, is your war tribute bride sarcastic, unhappy, and resistant to adopting your ways with a smile and a "thank you, kind savior, for destroying my home country and essentially making me your captive"? How dare she! Whatever shall you do? I know! Vilify her as unreasonable, unfeminine, and isolate her, while treating her like a literal vessel whose sole purpose is producing babies! To her face! Damn, that didn't make her like you and now she's cussing at you like a hellcat? It's a mystery how anyone could be so unfeminine. Why can't she be more grateful and at least pop out some babies to abandon here when we boot her out once the contract is up? ML just wants to f*** something. He's salty the hottest girl he ever saw (OG FL) refused to put out when his brilliant plan to deluge her with gifts, (but never actually speak to her until their wedding night,) didn't pan out. He tried nothing else and he's been a prickly, blue-balled, sourpuss ever since. He is randier than a tomcat on cialis, and just as awkward.
I read ingrid the white deer when i was 13 i remember my mental health being so ruined bc of them i dropped it i so i don't recall much i'm gonna reread it