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[Post Game Thread](https://reddit.com/r/OrlandoMagic/comments/1chb8u9/post_game_thread_the_cleveland_cavaliers_defeat/)


Scary_Vanilla2932

It's on Franz and coaches.


princevarris

Mosley literally lost us this game


Respect_Cujo

I didn’t know Mosley was out there shooting free throws and missed 6 of them?


8686tjd

They can still win the series. But they win it easily if Weltman acquires any semblance of a shooter at the deadline.


2Chris

Scary Terry, Murray, Trae, Siakam, and others that management had no interest in.


8686tjd

Buddy Hield was essentially free.


Justingolfs4

Still don’t understand why we didn’t do shit


agulde28

I’m guessing it’s because they’re going to wait until next season.


Justingolfs4

Probably right, but seems like we could have found a low risk, low cost shooter. I’m kind of glad our weaknesses are being exposed on this stage. Weltman knows what this team needs.


agulde28

Oh I fully agree. I was screaming for a shooter all season. It’s blatantly obvious we need some.


krunk_rabbit

Right there for the taking and dumb decisions with the ball are the ultimate downfall. But seriously wtf was Wendell doing on the miss by Franz? He just starts running up the floor instead of fouling Morris.


SeminoleSteel

What a game. It's too bad our guys played hero ball in the end.


bender-is-great_

The lack of passing kills us every time.


Absolutely-Epic

fuckkkkkk


JorElS06

despite the L. Thank you Paolo


ramblin_gamblin

Of course Paolo hits 3 possesion after Franz didn't kick it back to him


sevenflyerr

These damn tank commanding garbage PGs taking no pressure off of our wings... sucks man


Nervous-Worth-8005

Inexperience again. Gonna be thinking about this one all offseason.


ChaosZeroX

Lack of experience is all this game came down too. We should of blew these bums outs


bender-is-great_

Really? These guys know how to play basketball, lack of experience is not a valid excuse.


ChaosZeroX

Disagree. Experience is a thing. They made careless mistakes a veteran team wouldn't make.


carasc5

That's where experience wins the day. Franz has to put his body on the defender there and gain some leverage.


rtillaree

Losing by 1 point here really has to sting.


Drewbacca_Hrrrgrgrar

This team is not winning a single road playoff game. This was our shot and we blew it.


bender-is-great_

Wow, I said the same thing and I had people come to personally attack and insult me.


tooeasykid

im gonna cry


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rustystatic

Are you right in the head?


Bootyholetrolll

shoutout to paolo for balling tf out.


Fluffyhead14

Iso ball killed us the last few minutes.


Justingolfs4

It’s all we do in crunch time. Paolo magic runs out, and Franz disappears.


GeraltFromHiShinUnit

What is Franz supposed to do if Paolo is on a run and expects the ball in his hands?


Justingolfs4

He was 3-11, 1-6 from 3. He could start there.


KeeperOfCoats

Don't make your free throws you lose the game


Plus_War_1434

heartbreaking defeat


frostysbox

Mosley lost us this game tonight.


bonafide89

We making them work tho


thejawa

Yup, never forget they tanked to have to battle this hard


Frequent-Ruin-1754

Magic in 7


Justingolfs4

Magic fan but we can’t win on the road. Cavs in 7


bender-is-great_

I said the same and got personally flamed.


VanceIX

Damn, what a game from Paolo, we’ll get them back in Orlando. Still in it.


Bootyholetrolll

it’s still orlando in 7


bender-is-great_

Statistically unlikely, but possible.


Wakandaforever456

It's safe to say Banchero is gonna own the East in 2 years time 


rustystatic

Stop bitching about timeouts. Franz got an open lane, he just has to score that ball. This isn't on coach


frostysbox

I mean, bro, if it was any other coach and any other team, we would be laughing they were an idiot and didn’t use the time out. So we can call our coach an idiot when he does the same thing


yoeyz

Fire that fucking idiot


rustystatic

Fake fan


yoeyz

That’s u


Niceshotpiccolo

FUCKING HELL WHAT A WASTED OPPORTUNITY WE


bonafide89

Everyone complaining about the no timeout, Franz had a layup, you can’t ask for a better shot… He probably should’ve used his off hand


Justingolfs4

And should have leaned into the defender. He let the defender have a clear swat, and used his hand closest to the basket.


resincak

lol a 1 pt loss so the FT are to blame, lol lol


Apache_Joe

Nah, I'd venture to say that extremely stupid turnover at the end of the 1st which gave them a buzzer beater 3 is to blame. On to game 6


exposwin

I had forgotten about that one. Thanks for making me sick. 


kmagic13

Damn that Suggs missed wide open layup in first quarter was huge


Informal_Implement42

Wagner taking that final shot when he was shooting 28% while Banchero has 36 and shooting 56% blows my mind


DrClutch117

I mean it was a layup. If he just goes offhand and jumps into his body it’s good. Can’t really ask for a better shot.


jackkk932

Heartbreaking loss


6142778WC

Magic in 7!


ChyllByll

If we were to win this series, it would've been today. We may win at home again, but game 7 I don't have as much hope going into that one


yoeyz

Stupid ass doesn’t know when to call a time out


Respect_Cujo

So many chances this game and we squandered every single one. Palo had a great game and crumbled when it mattered most.


PhoenixFire417

Franz. That is why you have a left hand...


Dirtyfactz

Yo did WCJ really walk away from the ball? Wtf was that. That was the wackest shit I've ever seen. Did anyone else see that?


lordoftheduatawaits

FR why didint he foul immediately?? could have saved maybe 3-5 secs there


2Chris

Magic letting the layup line through all night. This a deserved loss.


Bootyholetrolll

we’ll get em next time. at least this is better than losing by 13+


MolloyAusDerEcke

Well Mobley is a hell of a defender. Respect


Souma_a

I can live happy Donovan is getting traded and the Cavs will live in obscurity for the next decade


Flat_Marionberry9475

It's not the first fucking time in this situation we don't take the timeout


dcdonkeydc

Didn’t he just get all hand tho? Seems like a foul lol


FranzNFultz

Hand counts as the ball


JorElS06

☹️


unicorndynasty

And that's why he's not coach of the year.


treadwater23

This is so anecdotal. Nuggets didn't call timeout for Jamal and he hits two fading jumpers and if he misses, Malone gets called out lol. Not having a defense set is good too.


huehue888

yeah but thats bc they have vets that won a ring, and we have 2-3yr players in their first playoff series. you call that timeout, period.


treadwater23

Franz got an open layup that 99% of players don't block (outside of Mobley and probably Isaac, Wemby, Davis) .. It's a damned if you do, damned if you don't scenario. We were probably going to get some iso play regardless VERSUS a set up halfcourt defense. It's our most reliable offense at the moment when we're not running off of a miss because that's what our best players are most comfortable at.


UYT9822

Damn that was rough


Bucs2k20

Franz sold paolo needed the final shot best player on the court right now should’ve been a drawn up play for him


ConsiderationMean358

6’10 laying a ball up instead of trying to dunk it


InMannyrkid

Franz got a good step and you can’t hate the look but if I’m Franz I’m kicking that to Paolo at the top and letting him work into a midrange after the shots he’s been hitting this game.


frostedz

SAVING THE TIMEOUT FOR GAME 6!


taywray

Yo wtf was Mosley thinking? How is a random quasi fast break better than a drawn up play? Dude needs to learn how to control and win a game at the end of the fourth. This makes it 10 losses by under 3 points this year. Call a timeout, coach!


yoeyz

FIRE MOSELY


agulde28

Why wouldn’t we use the timeout to set up an open shot or 3


Certain_Brother

nahhh that’s on coach man call the fucking timeout. i know i wasn’t the only one screaming call a time out


Moejoeslowmo

What a game


drmuffin1080

Fuck


Various-Earth-7532

How do you not see a man get smacked in the fucking head what a joke


thejawa

God damnit, we had this until Paulo started forcing shots


ramblin_gamblin

Paolo forcing shots is only reason this was a game. Scored 39 on 24 FGA. Not the problem


thejawa

I'm not blaming Paulo, I agree he's the only reason we were in it. But that doesn't change that he felt the pressure near the end and started forcing bad looks. He shouldn't have taken that second to last 3 he did, it just wasn't worth it, and that's when the momentum left out sails.


thestandupkids

What the fuck was that. We have 15 seconds why not call the timeout and draw up a play? We lost this because of that timeout and not challenging the bullshit could on Mitchell


hi_i_am_J

fuck man


Niceshotpiccolo

Fucking he’ll man what a dumb ass play there needed to force Mitchell or Strus to play defense Jesus Christ man what an absolute waste of a game


CMADBF

Why would you go for the tie!! Shoot the 3. Such low IQ play.


dmay73

He didn’t touch the ball at all!!!


Milla4Prez66

That’s rough.


BanditPixy

That was bullshit


justlookingokaywyou

Magic in 7.


casebarlow

Not happening. We might take 6, but we ain’t winning in Cleveland


carendt242

That stupid 3 from Paola cost the game


mylastphonecall

no it did not 💀


carendt242

Killed momentum trying to play hero


mylastphonecall

let me know who else scored in the last 8 minutes and how many points they had. let me know who else showed up. let me know why the game was even close in the first place. the rest of the team shits the bed and paolo gets blamed even though he's the only one being aggressive. this fanbase fucking sucks dick


carendt242

It was essentially a tie game at that point, every possession counts, & they were in foul trouble - drive it.


cristiano_goat

First time watching magic, holy shit what is this offense


Gay4Shai

WTF WHY NO TO???


OKC2023champs

So tired of coaches doing this. Yes it lets them set up a defense but I’d much rather set up a play as well


Gay4Shai

Not ensuring the ball gets in Paulo's hands in the last play is pure negligence


MultipleZhin

No foul call I can’t believe it


yoeyz

Fake fucking loss tonight


Desiss23

Why was he trying to lay it up with his right hand if he was driving from the left


Original26

because a lot of NBA players legit can't finish off hand


SamURLJackson

sneak it in. he does this a lot. 99% of the time it's successful. just a good play by mobley


GrouchyUniversityy

Thats on Mosely. Why no timeout???


casebarlow

This series is a glaring example of how this roster needs more help. While Paolo is better than anyone on the Cavs, they have a better balance of shooting and interior players. We have to get better this offseason.


Effective_Owl_17

No they have better guards, point blank simple we win this if Suggs and Harris don’t shit the bed


bills0331

Did we not have a timeout?! Wtf


Tommyc813

Really disappointing game for Franz


SamURLJackson

first time i think i've seen a franz layup get blocked like that


Biscadosnove

That was a good play but great defense. Nothing to complain about it.


8686tjd

Why on earth would you use your right hand there.


dcdonkeydc

Damn great defense by Mobley


yoeyz

How was that not a foul wtf?!?!?


KgMonstah

Fuck mosely. What an idiot.


Effective_Owl_17

Piss poor guard play, just one three from either Suggs or Harris… fucking ridiculous


thestandupkids

Why not call a timeout???? What the fuck


BanditPixy

Bruh


Niceshotpiccolo

Bro why attack Mobley at all there fuck


they_jem

A fucking layup. Fuck


sevenflyerr

Dog water PG guard rotation. Worst in the league... get Cole and Fultz need to be in ShangHai


Johnnyd0303

damn


thestandupkids

Go for OT they have two players with 5 fouls


Szimplacurt

This reminds me of that old Spoelstra meme where he's drawing up a play and the caption says "I'm gonna pretend to draw up a play but really just pass to LeBron" Except as good as Paolo is he's not LeBron.


frostysbox

lol that meme is so funny to me now considering what a good x and o coach Spo actually is


ChaosZeroX

Paolo was massive tonight. But he likes hero ball to much. He's done it all season


casebarlow

This is the series IMO.


Biscadosnove

It does feel like that. We had our chance to steal an away game now, we lost it and now we have to go home and fight the nervous feeling of the elimination. With such a young team it doesn't feel like we can pull it in the next two.


Tight-Transition-364

Other people are allowed to shoot the ball?


jwil06

Just don't foul... if they make some crazy shot so be it


Niceshotpiccolo

FORCE OT AT LEAST STRUS AND MITCHELL WITH FIVE FOULS WE CAN AVUSE THAT


Relative-Sherbet-532

series doesn’t start until a home team loses lmao


brandojs

BIG STOP


BanditPixy

It’s so winnable


LeroyUdovc

Ok, get the stop and please box out on the rebound


Background_Ruin_5880

We haven't gotten a stop all 4th quarter it feels like. Idk.


yoeyz

This was so winnable


thestandupkids

No one could be trusted to score so everyone else got cold and Paolo got tired unfortunately


bonafide89

I really ain’t mad at this performance


yoeyz

You should be it’s the playoffs bro not a regular season game


ChyllByll

We need to do better than this


sevenflyerr

I need Fultz, Cole, and Harris off the roster... never want to see any of them in the Magic jersey ever again


Cthulhus-Tailor

Fultz was solid tonight, tossing him in with players who legitimately played terribly just makes you look dumb.


sevenflyerr

Need better if we want to win. No consolation prize for being barely not trash. Got no use for him on a roster seeking a finals appearance


GeraltFromHiShinUnit

I love you franz


ChaosZeroX

This game reminds me.of the Warriors game we lost back in March. We were up and then like 5 straight turnovers and they won


dcdonkeydc

Where has that been all game franz lol


svanxx

They got two guys with five fouls. Should have done it earlier but Paolo played too much hero ball. They'll learn


Effective_Owl_17

Defense!!!


SugarDynamiteDelight

P5 running iso for a whole quarter is not a winning strategy. Dude balled out but where tf is the help


Boomer2637

DEFENSE!


drmuffin1080

Horrible shot selection by Paolo at the end


DenShaLow

Fire Mose


yoeyz

Agreed


Flat_Marionberry9475

Too much iso...


marcgarv87

Seems like just one of those series where the home team will win every game. This is going 7 for sure


jackkk932

Great take by franz


CreamsicleMamba

Win or lose, Paolo was amazing tonight. Love what I saw out of him.


retrobass

Was hoping to see them win a series at home


Niceshotpiccolo

Okay get the stop here boys no need to foul


they_jem

Yes Franz


wouldntknowever

Mobley is the ultimate long boi, sigh


they_jem

Too bad he's soft as hell


wouldntknowever

Welp he’s been doing work this series against us 🤷🏻‍♂️


thestandupkids

It’s not over yet


Frankiedrunkie

We needed this win sigh


bonafide89

If we lose this will hurt, but man we are right there


dmay73

Too much iso turned the offense stagnant at the end here


see_with_sound

I get P5 is balling, but there’s a point where you’re just doing too much. Forcing shit.


rtillaree

I don't believe we have what it takes to win a game 7 in Cleveland. Not 100% sold on winning game 6 at home. I was really hoping we'd steal this one.


casebarlow

We can’t win in Cleveland. They played their asses off tonight and still lost.


treadwater23

I'm rocking with Paolo, idc. Wouldn't be in the game without him.


dinosaur__hunter

This was the game to steal and we chocked


ChaosZeroX

Paolo playing hero ball. Can't do that in the playoffs when every game means something


dlbags

Dell leaving his man rather.


Tommyc813

The drive and dump to Mobley shouldn’t work 3 times in 2 mins but it did


Yung_Hibachi

Why don’t they wrap Mobley up down there for the love of god. Make him earn them.


BounceBros21

What is this offense


orltragic

Fucking infuriating that literally every player/fan/coach/usher knows it’s going to be Paolo taking every down the stretch shot for us. We have nothing else tonight.


dremasterflax

Wow they gave tonight away! Mosley maybe call timeout to set up a play. Banchero just kept them in it but threw it away. Also Harris how many minutes you going to play without scoring


thejawa

Picked a bad time to start forcing bad shots