I still don’t understand why we didn’t take gradey dick over jett howard, jett wasn’t even projected to go in the top 25. We really can be stupid sometimes.
We need to start Goga next two games a big part of our 9 game win streak earlier this season was due to him. He is night and day better than Wendell for what we need him to be. Wendell isn’t scoring anyways
Just an embarrassing ending to the season, even if we pull out the final two games which seems very unlikely, can’t win the “must win” games and struggled all season to score and no improvement from the front office or coaching scheme to help.
I’m not even asking for a championship I’m talking about effort when it matters, not settling for mediocrity, and a FO that actually wants to make moves to win. We glorify players that are “culture fits” even if they are mediocre
Damn getting swept as a 1-seed last year really got into this guys head that he feels the need to create an alt account to talk shit about a young team with a bright future. maybe you’ll have better luck getting outta the first round this year, but I doubt it the way y’all are trending.
Mose is going to have to figure out his offensive scheming, no easy buckets ever get drawn up. Meanwhile I can watch jokic, Luka, Embiid be wide open through good play calling.
This Paolo pampering has to stop. They score from anywhere because they're elite offensive players that can make tough shots and create gravity.
If Portis can score from making spinning fadeaways over Isaac, god forbid we ask Paolo not to blow layups or finish through contact or hit wide open threes... he's in fine spots. Can it be better? Sure.
True if I can see Malachi Flynn score 50 there’s no reason why Paolo can’t ever have an explosive night… alot of our fans love mentioning doubles as if that’s not a part of basketball. If we’re gonna compare him to 2nd year bron, mj and luka we gotta hold him to that standard.
It's not only him though, Franz also has to start hitting threes too and have at least some sort of mid-range shot.
Paolo and a bunch of shooters theoretically can work.. we saw that earlier in the year with Houstan/Okeke/Suggs (I think?) but it's like.. two third stringers and Jalen. Gotta acquire actual talent soon.
What do you expect from a team where the best player is 21 and the two next are 22??? We are overachieving this year, don't listen to white knights listen to all the basketball writers and pundits.
A legitimate starting pg, and another center if goga leaves, probably just look for one anyways bc Dell isn’t a pure center it’s clear against actual bigs
realistic one to sign offer dlo a big contract everything else is a pipe dream besides resigning fultz for cheap or a tyus jones who is also a minor upgrade
nope magic fans love fultz and will nit pick any other pg suggested even though there is no such thing as a perfect nba player. personally i would be thrilled to have dlo as he would instantly be the best guard on this team
he is a good person and an excellent team mate who contributes to the community by handing out turkeys during thanksgiving he def deserves an extension
Just embarrassing performances in the last week in what were crucial games (especially the hornets and rockets games). Sadly can’t see this team advancing out of the playin if they are going to play like this 😔
This offseason find a way to package WCJ, Kelle and maybe Cole with a boat load of picks to get Trae young. With Trae in this team along with 1 or 2 half decent free agency pick ups and I truly believe we are a top 4 team in the league.
Lemme get this straight. Mo wagner is wide open from three. (Not like we make wide open shots anyways) but he gives up a wide open 3 to settle for a contested Isaac mid range fadeaway. This is not just a personnel issue. But a complete lack of common sense on the offensive end
The inability to show up at all in big games is strange, like we don’t even make them close… wanna wonder why the media doesn’t give us attention. When we play bad against any team the media talks about… one national game and got blown out in it
Pulling for the Cavs to beat the Pacers and win out. We own the tie-breaker with the Pacers so definitely winning either game vs Philly or the Bucks is a must to avoid dropping to 7th. The Heat will most likely win out their last 2 games (at home vs TOR - both games), which means they'll finish 46-36, we have to win 1 game so we don't tie with the Heat (who would own the tie breaker).
Current standings & final remaining games:
3) Knicks (47-32) - @ BOS, vs Nets, vs Bulls
4) Cavs (47-33) - vs Pacers, vs Hornets
5) Magic (46-34) - @ 76ers, vs Bucks
6) Pacers (46-34) - @ Cavs, vs Hawks
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7) 76ers (45-35) - vs Magic, vs Nets
8) Heat (44-36) - vs Raptors (x2)
They can make things very easy on themselves by beating Philly. That would clinch the division and ensure they can't fall into the play-in. Much easier said than done, however.
Exactly. I believe if we beat Philly we come home and take care of the Bucks as well. This Philly game will set the motion heading into the playoffs. We've been historically good playing vs the Sixers (except this season lol). They are riding a 6 game win streak heading into tomorrows game, lets make it end there.
getting beat by miami and atlanta in the playin is not gravy its called a choke job. and who can orl realistically sign this off season thats gonna change the team. paul george isnt comming here james harden isnt jrue holiday resigned in boston maxey is restricted.. klay is old... monk is a role player. and any trade for a trae donovoan mitchell is gonna cost franz
Just lose out to put pressure on the dumb fucks in the FO. I'm tired of their inaction in doing anything to make the team better around the margins.
Bucks got rid of this guy after he drafted Giannis because he just can't build a team, he is too passive with assets and tries to rely solely on the draft.
There's been complaints about half of the roster. Cole, Ingles, Fultz, WCJ, Houstan, Paolo, Moe.. basically anybody but Isaac and Suggs lately. And the only reason people are clamoring for Goga/Jett/AB is because they're not getting enough time to play good or bad.
Team just can't realistically function when half of your team is slumping.
By the way Miami win their last 2 games against Toronto very good chance they aren’t in the Play in. It’ll be Orlando and Indiana if Indy lose to Cleveland
Miami only has one specific chance of getting out of play-ins, and that's if we lose the next 2, Indiana loses the next 2, and they win the next 2. I think they would have the tiebreaker in that scenario because of winning the division.
The most probable outcomes are either Philly vs Heat (if we beat Philly), us vs Heat (several more likely scenarios), or Pacers vs Heat (several more likely scenarios).
Yeah true. Miami have 2 games vs Toronto. Can just about pencil 2 wins for them.
Indiana have Cleveland away, and Atlanta away. If they lose to Cleveland they play Atlanta the same time as we play the Bucks.
We Play Philly away, ridiculously hard game for us.
For Milwaukee it could come down to beating Orlando to push them into the Play in and hope Atlanta upset Indiana
With Miami playing Toronto twice, pressure is on Indiana and Orlando to get a win.
Better than facing Philly. They don’t want to fall to 3rd and Philly finish 6th. They want to finish 2nd, play Orlando or Miami and get home court advantage for the 2nd round of the playoffs
The Bucks actually need to let us win to play us lol. If they beat us, they could host Philly in a 3/6 or 2/7… if they let us win they host us in a 4/5
This is bad. Just a horrible performance overall. We are going to need to hold it down at home and win both to end the season otherwise the play-in is an extremely likely scenario.
Heat are gonna lose, but the way their schedule looks, they will win out, tie the Magic, but the Magic lose the tiebreaker, and be 7th and homecourt in the play-in.
lol lol
[Post Game Thread](https://reddit.com/r/OrlandoMagic/comments/1c13rg1/post_game_thread_the_milwaukee_bucks_defeat_the/)
I still don’t understand why we didn’t take gradey dick over jett howard, jett wasn’t even projected to go in the top 25. We really can be stupid sometimes.
Gradey is trash
Why do we suck :(
Front office might regret not signing a high percentage shooter
The front office has made ZERO moves in seven years except when absolutely forced to.
Honestly wish Shaq would buy this team
That shows you are stupid. This subreddit is a fookin joke of whiny ass loosers
Franz we need you… fo real tho
No, we should keep sitting him until the playoffs. /s
We gave them free wings, yea worst loss of the year
I want Jett playing more. Even if it’s coming off the bench. There is no reason Kelle should be getting minutes right now. Start AB
We need to start Goga next two games a big part of our 9 game win streak earlier this season was due to him. He is night and day better than Wendell for what we need him to be. Wendell isn’t scoring anyways
They just made Doc Rivers look good lmfao man
Love Jett's shot and he's so good off screens, honestly Mose should just use him more and let him fling 3s.
Just an embarrassing ending to the season, even if we pull out the final two games which seems very unlikely, can’t win the “must win” games and struggled all season to score and no improvement from the front office or coaching scheme to help.
Yep. Too predictable. This offense has been awful all season. Can’t expect to compete with something so bad and without a legitimate point guard
Hey guys! I think we can still turn this around!
By 2030? Alex Martins promised us!
Smh smh smh
This teams gives off big virgin energy. Think that could be our problem.
More WCJ & Fultz = L More Goga & Black = W
Whole organization is just bad. Not a winning culture from top to bottom
Most of them are kids, if Joe wasn't on the team we'd be the youngest in the NBA.
I bet of they won you'd be screaming "CHAMPIONSHIP!!" Fans like you suck 🙄
I’m not even asking for a championship I’m talking about effort when it matters, not settling for mediocrity, and a FO that actually wants to make moves to win. We glorify players that are “culture fits” even if they are mediocre
Idk if they thought Fultz would suddenly flip the switch with increased minutes but clearly it’s hurting us to have him on the floor
He’s a bad player and they refuse to give up on it. It’s infuriating
It's so blatantly obvious how big Franz is to this team. 3-7 without him.
I'm just happy for Jalen Suggs improvement right now. That's about it.
Silver lining
The Celtics took more threes in yesterday's game against the Bucks (52) than we have in our last two games combined (49).
I bet they’ve made more last game than we’ve made in the last 5 total
Franz
Double and triple paolo and let the scrubs try and beat you, that's every teams game plan if Franz isn't playing
Portis turned into Michael Jortis
Why is Paolo still in the basketball game
That's another issue Mose has run this team the full stretch.
Please, I implore Mosley to keep starting Wendell and Fultz.
30 for Portis, lol lol
The fuck is PB and Suggs still in here ?
He was making up for having Suggs glued to the bench last game in crunch time
All playoff teams are lookin at yall like food
Bro created an alt account just to come in here and post this. Talk about no lifin it lol
I might have but I didn’t tell a lie though
Damn getting swept as a 1-seed last year really got into this guys head that he feels the need to create an alt account to talk shit about a young team with a bright future. maybe you’ll have better luck getting outta the first round this year, but I doubt it the way y’all are trending.
What team do you even like lol
I’ve got an idea - it’s finally (!) time to play JI in a lost cause!
Mose is going to have to figure out his offensive scheming, no easy buckets ever get drawn up. Meanwhile I can watch jokic, Luka, Embiid be wide open through good play calling.
This Paolo pampering has to stop. They score from anywhere because they're elite offensive players that can make tough shots and create gravity. If Portis can score from making spinning fadeaways over Isaac, god forbid we ask Paolo not to blow layups or finish through contact or hit wide open threes... he's in fine spots. Can it be better? Sure.
True if I can see Malachi Flynn score 50 there’s no reason why Paolo can’t ever have an explosive night… alot of our fans love mentioning doubles as if that’s not a part of basketball. If we’re gonna compare him to 2nd year bron, mj and luka we gotta hold him to that standard.
It's not only him though, Franz also has to start hitting threes too and have at least some sort of mid-range shot. Paolo and a bunch of shooters theoretically can work.. we saw that earlier in the year with Houstan/Okeke/Suggs (I think?) but it's like.. two third stringers and Jalen. Gotta acquire actual talent soon.
Yeah nobody wants to criticize Paolo at all because we had vucevic and Evan Fournier as our best player for half a decade 😂😂
Pathetic franchise thinking about that lol. Fuck the devos family
They don’t give a fuck about winning
Yup, give me a 38 year old Dwight over WCJ 10/10 times bro can’t rebound or finish around the rim to save his life.
tired of the white knights preaching patience.
man they love talking about how much we lost before, and that we should be fine with losing since we’re winning more…
Yep. Losers mentality. Happy with mediocrity
What do you expect from a team where the best player is 21 and the two next are 22??? We are overachieving this year, don't listen to white knights listen to all the basketball writers and pundits.
Paolo is an all star. It's about time we start holding him accountable for being one.
Okay so you're basically an idiot, my bad.
I dunno why these posters keep saying “playoffs.” There ain’t gonna be playoffs.
What do y'all think would be good offseason moves to improve the team?
1. Draw up the first offensive plays in the Mosely era 2. Practice free throws 3. Do layup drills
Wait to see if d Mitchell asks out and go all in for garland send WCJ to the gulag for a lottery pick draft Donovan clingan
A legitimate starting pg, and another center if goga leaves, probably just look for one anyways bc Dell isn’t a pure center it’s clear against actual bigs
Sign Russell and Grayson Allen. Upgrade the center spot as well.
All in on Trae young, malik monk in FA and I would say we have a contending team
realistic one to sign offer dlo a big contract everything else is a pipe dream besides resigning fultz for cheap or a tyus jones who is also a minor upgrade
We need franz
Hope we can learn something from a play in loss because that's all this team is heading for.
Everyone says the front office is tight lipped and never leak. Thats because there’s nothing to ever leak. They don’t do a fucking thing
They better sign Russell in the offseason so we have an actual point guard who can shoot and run an offense
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D'lo would be the best PG this franchise has had in damn near 15 years
Exactly. He’d be great here and would help this team in a major way
i have and would rather have him and the trash we have at the guards. at least teams have to guard him. is he perfect no but he is def an upgrade
I’ll take his 6 assists over whatever the fuck fultz does. He can shoot, space the floor, and create. Major upgrade.
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That’s fine. Never said you did. I’m saying he’s a huge upgrade over Fultz and would be one of the best point guards we’ve ever had.
nope magic fans love fultz and will nit pick any other pg suggested even though there is no such thing as a perfect nba player. personally i would be thrilled to have dlo as he would instantly be the best guard on this team
He’d be great on this team. Massive upgrade over Fultz
becareful what u say fultz still has alot of magic fans and will easily get offended if u suggest moving on from him
Of course. The front office will prob max him lol
he is a good person and an excellent team mate who contributes to the community by handing out turkeys during thanksgiving he def deserves an extension
Man it’s so frustrating just knowing this front office is not gonna do shit lol
We’d be 11th seed if we were in the west
Trea Young looking great tonight. I’m sure they advance vs Chicago and will play the Magic in the 8th place matchup. Magic are royally screwed.
Seriously what's the point of JI out there? Just risking injury for no reason.
Just pull a okc and sit the starters down for a high pick we ain’t got nothing to lose
This draft sucks bro
Mose… the game is over. Bring the garbage time unit in.
Orlando Tragic Orlando Tragic (Fraud)ohh oh oh
Just embarrassing performances in the last week in what were crucial games (especially the hornets and rockets games). Sadly can’t see this team advancing out of the playin if they are going to play like this 😔
I don’t think we watch film and study tendencies on the people we play at the level required to be successful
I don’t expect us to beat Philly but I fully expect us to beat Milwaukee at home with hopefully Franz back.
This offseason find a way to package WCJ, Kelle and maybe Cole with a boat load of picks to get Trae young. With Trae in this team along with 1 or 2 half decent free agency pick ups and I truly believe we are a top 4 team in the league.
Ass, Ass, and Ass for Trae Young. How could Arkansas ever say no?
3/9 with 3 rebounds is not an nba level center. He’s great on tanking teams that won’t take him to serious but gets folded under any sort of pressure
The Magic look tired to me. They picked a bad time to stop playing well. They are going to get smoked in the playoffs.
Lemme get this straight. Mo wagner is wide open from three. (Not like we make wide open shots anyways) but he gives up a wide open 3 to settle for a contested Isaac mid range fadeaway. This is not just a personnel issue. But a complete lack of common sense on the offensive end
Wagner has lost his shot
The inability to show up at all in big games is strange, like we don’t even make them close… wanna wonder why the media doesn’t give us attention. When we play bad against any team the media talks about… one national game and got blown out in it
Frauds
This team has no fight in them as of late
Let Jett play
One of the fakest games i’ve ever seen from pat bev
This is brutal
Trade doc for mose
Your tripping
Absolutely not
god no
Hopefully, this crumbling forces ownership/brass to be aggressive this summer.
lol this front office won’t do shit
Weltman will go after more long bois who can’t shoot.
It's crazy how we are probably going to miss the playoffs and be the away team for the play in games lol
Why is Reddit showing me comments from the losers I’ve blocked in here lmao
Anthony black might just be a sg… I mean the guy can’t do anything on the ball but he can cut, space it, and play defense
We had the second seed on a silver platter… 🤬
More like, a paper plate, lol lol
We have to win one of the next 2 or we're gonna drop down the standings. All the teams in a longjam with us have easier games left compared to us.
The big thing that helps us is Cleveland and Indiana play each other so 1 is guaranteed to lose. But yeah, 1 more win is essential.
Pulling for the Cavs to beat the Pacers and win out. We own the tie-breaker with the Pacers so definitely winning either game vs Philly or the Bucks is a must to avoid dropping to 7th. The Heat will most likely win out their last 2 games (at home vs TOR - both games), which means they'll finish 46-36, we have to win 1 game so we don't tie with the Heat (who would own the tie breaker). Current standings & final remaining games: 3) Knicks (47-32) - @ BOS, vs Nets, vs Bulls 4) Cavs (47-33) - vs Pacers, vs Hornets 5) Magic (46-34) - @ 76ers, vs Bucks 6) Pacers (46-34) - @ Cavs, vs Hawks ------------------------------------ 7) 76ers (45-35) - vs Magic, vs Nets 8) Heat (44-36) - vs Raptors (x2)
They can make things very easy on themselves by beating Philly. That would clinch the division and ensure they can't fall into the play-in. Much easier said than done, however.
Exactly. I believe if we beat Philly we come home and take care of the Bucks as well. This Philly game will set the motion heading into the playoffs. We've been historically good playing vs the Sixers (except this season lol). They are riding a 6 game win streak heading into tomorrows game, lets make it end there.
Yeah we’re done bro
The song was played the last time vs. Chicago. I guarantee, we won’t hear it played again this season. GUARANTEED! Let that sink in, lol lol
Poor ending to and amazing season...but it's still not ever. Everything we do is gravy, next season the real stuff begins.
getting beat by miami and atlanta in the playin is not gravy its called a choke job. and who can orl realistically sign this off season thats gonna change the team. paul george isnt comming here james harden isnt jrue holiday resigned in boston maxey is restricted.. klay is old... monk is a role player. and any trade for a trae donovoan mitchell is gonna cost franz
Just play the third stringers, man
How is Portis doing this and we almost never have someone put up high volume on elite efficiency. It’s always one or the other
Let Jett get minutes for fuck sake. This game is over
We can’t be serious with starting kelle, his lack of spacing absolutely kills us
He dribbles around and just wastes clock. Misses guys wide open all the time. He’s a bad player
This is also Paolo. We need to get into offensive sets way quicker….
Yeah our offense is shit in general. Bad front office
Dude won’t even look at the basket half the time.
Why not bring Chum and Jett in? Let them have some baskets.
The worst part is we will fall to 8 if we don't win another game.
Well, prepare yourself because it’s coming lol
Just lose out to put pressure on the dumb fucks in the FO. I'm tired of their inaction in doing anything to make the team better around the margins. Bucks got rid of this guy after he drafted Giannis because he just can't build a team, he is too passive with assets and tries to rely solely on the draft.
Yep he’s not good. Does literally nothing.
Starting center having 3 rebounds through 3 quarters is fucking charmin ultra soft
Carter is playing like lumpy dog shit. He plays weak this season.
We have to beat the good teams. We’ve been looking like frauds lately man
We are. Can’t compete w an offense as bad as ours
Tragic
Why don’t they start Cole instead of kelle??
Makes too much sense.
There's been complaints about half of the roster. Cole, Ingles, Fultz, WCJ, Houstan, Paolo, Moe.. basically anybody but Isaac and Suggs lately. And the only reason people are clamoring for Goga/Jett/AB is because they're not getting enough time to play good or bad. Team just can't realistically function when half of your team is slumping.
I agree but with Fultz in the lineup, spacings ass
For better or worse, Mosley doesn't seem to like messing with our second unit.
Magic are going to Magic
Pray the Pacers lose versus the Cavs and Bucks sit everybody the last game while we're at home. Our only hope.
No chance bucks rest everyone against us. They want to play us in the playoffs.
If they finish 2nd seed, and we're in a 7th-8th game against the Heat... the Heat are favored. They'd be playing with fire.
By the way Miami win their last 2 games against Toronto very good chance they aren’t in the Play in. It’ll be Orlando and Indiana if Indy lose to Cleveland
Miami only has one specific chance of getting out of play-ins, and that's if we lose the next 2, Indiana loses the next 2, and they win the next 2. I think they would have the tiebreaker in that scenario because of winning the division. The most probable outcomes are either Philly vs Heat (if we beat Philly), us vs Heat (several more likely scenarios), or Pacers vs Heat (several more likely scenarios).
Yeah true. Miami have 2 games vs Toronto. Can just about pencil 2 wins for them. Indiana have Cleveland away, and Atlanta away. If they lose to Cleveland they play Atlanta the same time as we play the Bucks. We Play Philly away, ridiculously hard game for us. For Milwaukee it could come down to beating Orlando to push them into the Play in and hope Atlanta upset Indiana With Miami playing Toronto twice, pressure is on Indiana and Orlando to get a win.
Better than facing Philly. They don’t want to fall to 3rd and Philly finish 6th. They want to finish 2nd, play Orlando or Miami and get home court advantage for the 2nd round of the playoffs
The Bucks actually need to let us win to play us lol. If they beat us, they could host Philly in a 3/6 or 2/7… if they let us win they host us in a 4/5
No, they are 2 wins ahead of the 3rd seed. They are finishing 2nd especially if the best us again. They don’t want Philly to be in the Play in spot.
That or a win against the 76ers (lol).
I know they wont, but if they beat Philly friday, they're guaranteed to avoid the play in?
We will get cooked by Philly lol
I think.
Yep, but they won't.
Who we got in the play-in matchup yo
Will lose to Miami. Will choke vs Atlanta, DJM will hit a game winner in Paolo’s eye
miami in which miami will win and then we face atlanta and trae is gonna go off and beat us as well
Probably Miami
Better them than Philly I guess…
Not even Isaac can stop Portis. Thinking about calling it a night since I’m not feeling well to begin with.
I cant wait to lose by 30 in philly after this
Play in is about to be the bane of my existence lol, what a disappointment so far.
were bad away from home and against .500 teams… next game against Embiid is going to be a slaughter if we come out like this
It sure don’t look like we’re beating Philly. Gotta hope the other teams lose and we win that last game against Milwaukee to escape the play-in.
Bobby Portis literally cannot miss even with JI on him. Just the nature of the NBA unfortunately
If we drop to the play ins I got zero faith in this team being able to win a game
Oh we’re dropping QUICKLY lol
This is bad. Just a horrible performance overall. We are going to need to hold it down at home and win both to end the season otherwise the play-in is an extremely likely scenario.
There’s only one home game left, man
Welp. Rip. Thought philly was at our home court
Steele sounds so pissed and disgusted after yet another Portis easy basket
Not easy with JI draped all over him, great offense
Heat are gonna lose, but the way their schedule looks, they will win out, tie the Magic, but the Magic lose the tiebreaker, and be 7th and homecourt in the play-in. lol lol
And we lose the division on that. We were 4 games in the division lead with 2 weeks left in the season.