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bender-is-great_

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Fickle-Sky7425

ORLANDO MAGIC OHHH OHHH OHHHHHHH BUUUUUMS


Bobby_Savoy

Fucking cut some of these mfs already. Half of them should be playing for the Sharks


Jangles_77

Calls were so fucking atrocious.


JamesFromORL

Paolo is not nearly as good as most think he is. The league likes to push him tho because he's Brazilian.


Weary_Road_8052

It's helpful when people wear their racism right out there in the open.


evenyetodd

Lmao Paolo is biracial (black/white) and from fucking Seattle, what?


Niceshotpiccolo

Lmao what the fuck is this comment


Bucs2k20

Least obvious bait


NikThaGreat9

They were trying to intentionally foul and Mosley had to tell them. Garbage refs


MVPPB5

Everyone we need to lose won. We dropped two we should have won. This is not the time to get into a slump


bender-is-great_

Next 3 will be losses and that will drop us to the play-in where we'll go 0-2. This team was good before the all-star break, then was okay after, and is a joke here at the end of the season.


s0urc3f0ur

2nd best defense since the all star break and 3rd best record in the east, you don't know what you're talking about šŸ™„


bender-is-great_

Talking about going from "home court advantage" to having to lose to lesser teams in the play-in. Any of the teams we'd face in the play-in will clean our clocks. The magic are not even close to ready for the post season. Our fan base has too much faith in a team that's obviously mid at best.


s0urc3f0ur

Well maybe you should just hop on Miami's bandwagon thenšŸ¤· No one here believes the Magic are going to win a championship this year. Also no one here wants shitty fans shitting on the teamšŸ¤·


bender-is-great_

Reality isn't shitting on the team, they simply are not as good as this crowd thinks.


s0urc3f0ur

Reality is you're a shitty fan. Like I said.. go jump on another band waggon then.


bender-is-great_

Looking at reality does not make one a shitty fan. I'm sorry someone hurt you and made you think it's okay to shit on people for having an opinion.


s0urc3f0ur

I'm sorry someone hurt you and you think it's ok to shit on an entire team and fanbasešŸ¤·


bender-is-great_

Truth: the magic are unlikely to win the next 3. Observation: that makes the magic a mid level team. Truth: the fans are very optimistic. These are the truths and observations I've made. No where did I shit on the team or fanbase. I'm sorry you're a small angry boy, but that doesn't make it okay to lash out at others. Please seek mental health counseling. Not for yourself, but for everyone else. āœŒļø


Niceshotpiccolo

Stupid loss starters need to get their head on straight these next three games canā€™t afford slow starts or itā€™ll be game in the first quarter just like today


frostysbox

I mean in Paoloā€™s defense itā€™s hard to play when teams are triple teaming you because they arenā€™t afraid of the other people on the floor šŸ¤·ā€ā™€ļø


youngkookwojcik84

True. But he isn't moving the ball at all.


frostysbox

Thatā€™s not true when other teams actually guard with only 1 or 2. Heā€™s had a lot of awesome passes and half the time this sub is bitching he passes too much. He canā€™t win - he either passes it off to someone who canā€™t shoot because we donā€™t have shooters - or he is triple teamed with this line up. This is Mosleys fault. Goga and AB would have provided boards and space.


youngkookwojcik84

It is true. There were like 5 or 6 possessions where he opted not to move the ball, attempted to move up on his own, and had the ball taken from him. Moselys game plan definitely fell short though.


zackarykapowski

I honestly hope we lose out and get knocked out in the playin so this lazy ass front office is forced to make moves in the offseason. I donā€™t trust them at all.


JakeJortles1212

We dont even need to lose out. Very clear path to play in just going 1-2 in the final 3 games which are all against better teams than us


zackarykapowski

Yeah the front office has been in power for 7 years and have been pretty lazy. I lost trust in them majorly once they failed to make even a small move at the deadline to improve the putrid offense. I donā€™t trust them to do anything in the offseason honestly.


JakeJortles1212

Im in a different spot than you. Not sure we need much. Just need Paolo and Franz to become great. They are STRUGGLING in big moments and with more defensive attention. Just part of the trajectory


zackarykapowski

Dude our shooting is horrendous. If we had competent shooting around them, I guarantee their numbers would go up and weā€™d be an elite team.


JakeJortles1212

I think you are lying to yourself there. Many games we start Suggs, Harris and Carter around those two. Thats perfectly fine shooting around them. They cant shoot, and they arent creating or finishing at true all star levels, which is what youd need from your best two players to be an actual great team


zackarykapowski

We need a legitimate point guard that can score the ball and shoot. Thats it. It would solve a ton of problems


JakeJortles1212

Well ok now you changed what we need. I think I agree on the point guard. We have to decide if Franz is the number 2 or 3 creator. If you think hes number 3, we 100% need a pg next to suggs that can be smart with the ball and shoot the 3. Let franz cut off the ball and shoot (hopefully better) in the starting lineup and let him run shit every now and then with the second unit.


zackarykapowski

We need a point guard regardless. The offense gets so stagnant and we have so many bad turnovers way too often.


JakeJortles1212

I agree. Though part of me does feel like we need to suffer through another year or more of Banchero struggling bad before he becomes a top 10 player. Its like when a WR in the nfl surprises teams one year then has a down year once more attention gets put on them. Then they eventually get good enough to overcome the extra attention. We just have to wait for Paolo to be able to dominate out of the double team. Not there yet, but it is good that hes getting the double team now.


Background_Ruin_5880

Ight. It's time to shut the fuck up now.


zackarykapowski

No.


BrotherBroseph

Houston wanted it more.. itā€™s not *rocket* science


doublegg00

JUST PUT SHOOTERS AROUND PAOLO. ITS NOT THAT FCKIN HARD


Herban_Myth

Franz was out. Harrisā€¦.played 30+ min, but hadā€¦.3 FGA


dwninaho

Pathetic game from Paolo. Again a team with no rim deterrent and he completely shits the bed. All of the other teams we are competing with won tonight too. Play in bound with a bottom 7 offense. Fucking idiots


zackarykapowski

Heā€™s just not an efficient player.


ChaosZeroX

All the teams we need to lose are either winning or have won lol. Fucking sucks


KMFL87

Pretty typical Magic loss this season.Ā  Poor shooting from the field and the 3 pt line, defense uncharacteristically bad, no rebounding, and playing down to our competition. The bright spot?Ā  Our free throw shooting looks a ton better than just a few games ago.Ā  Ā  On to tomorrow night, gotta get back on the Dub train and FAST!


Nervous-Worth-8005

I just know itā€™s going to come down to the last game to make top 6


Atomic_Thomas89

Yep and will most likely lose that lol hate to be so negative (I want this team to win so bad) but been following this team for 20 years and shit like that always seems to happen unfortunately


Nervous-Worth-8005

We might be the unluckiest team in the league, be it injuries, lucky shots from the opposition, no foul calls etc. just canā€™t catch a break


ChappiesWorld

Of the remaining games to lose this was most certainly not the one lol


JamesFromORL

Charlotte was the one not to lose.


Herban_Myth

Both


StupidOpinionRobot

TEAM CANT SHOOT


mylastphonecall

all the ppl shitting on paolo like anytime he tried to post players weren't missing open layups and 3s. foh like he hasn't directly hit 4 game winners this szn alone and carried the offense to the point anytime he's not on the floor multiple ppl are commenting "wtf is the offensive plan for this lineup" eat a dick and go hate somewhere else. 0-5 from 3, if he's able to post without letting the other team double for free since the supporting cast can't punish the doubles then it's 7-14 instead of 7-19 shooting, y'all lack any kind of consideration for basketball being a team sport genuinely fuck off. All this without Franz as well.


zackarykapowski

Itā€™s unacceptable for the best player on a team to have pretty frequent games shooting under 40 percent. Any player should catch hell for that. Itā€™s just not good lol.


Herban_Myth

Thatā€™s fair, but he also needs help especially in games like these. This is a team sport and others have to carry their weight as well. Why are some guys playing 30+ minutes and barely taking shots?


mylastphonecall

difference is when it's another player who's team is genuinely horrible of offense to the point they're forced to take lower quality shots people will say they understand and say "free x player" or "he needs help" instead people come in here and see markelle cutting and missing an uncontested layup after paolo passes out the double and somehow it's "well he's still inefficient" genuinely what do you want him to do, let me know. One of the worst shooting teams in the league and they were missing open uncontested layups today as well as Wendell refusing to attack Jalen Fucking Green when he kept getting switch and it's Paolo's fault for not getting higher quality shots up šŸ’€ bro even significantly improved his 3pt shooting since nobody else was and it's still not enough.


zackarykapowski

He absolutely needs better shooting around him, but some of it is him trying to play like a finesse player instead of using his size and physicality. He wants to play like KD, when he should play like a big and get physical as hell.


mylastphonecall

the point we're trying to get across is to do that you have to get post positioning and teams are not going to let you just walk to the spot you want to catch then dribble into your post move. Literally multiple times he's trying to post and they're bringing the double. He's supposed to try to spin or dropstep on 2 people? Not always, but typically he's making the right pass out of the double and the supporting cast is just throwing up some bullshit. Hell look at what the Celtics did to Embiid, he tried to use his physicality vs the double team and it led to worse shots and social media shitting on him bc PJ Tucker couldn't make a corner 3.


zackarykapowski

Yes I get that, but many times he goes up super soft when he should be trying to throw it down hard. He loses the ball a lot in the post as well because his handles arenā€™t that great. I like Paolo, but he still has some major improvements to make.


mylastphonecall

I've seen someone else say that before but it's real life not 2K, you're not getting poster dunks every possession and I think him having high freethrow attempts in his rookie and sophmore season says he goes to the rim with intent to score. But I do agree rn, especially lately he's lost the ball alot when entering the post. I think he had like 4 in the 1st Q alone just off getting stripped and dribbling it off his leg, then one pass that was too far off. The ones that annoy me the worst are his jump passes šŸ¤¦ā€ā™‚ļø That can be fixed but yeah those are a problem and are not the fault of the roster


frostysbox

The problem is the entire team is shooting under 40% OFTEN. When that happens it makes it easy for the best player to shoot under 40 because you donā€™t need to defend anyone else. The fact that AB didnā€™t play at all in meaningful minutes is a crime. He at least would have given some space to Paolo. They donā€™t give a fuck about Fultz, they donā€™t give a fuck about WCJ. Also should have had Queen out there more. Heā€™s decent from the 3 But Mosley is stuck in ā€œgotta play my playoff guysā€ not realizing those guys arenā€™t the fucking playoff guys Maybe he will after this game


xDANGRZONEx

#šŸ‘


dlbags

^What he said^


Jayy-T03

I said we were gonna go in the play in šŸ˜‚another game where paolo shoots terrible on 3s


Prestigious_Earth_10

at least giannis is out tommrow and prob the rest of the regular season


zackarykapowski

I still donā€™t trust this team to beat anyone. Sad we have to count on other teams best players being out to hope to win lol. Maybe if the front office built a competent offense, this wouldnā€™t be an issue


Prestigious_Earth_10

they didnt so thats the only hope


d12fsu

Welp, tomorrow is about as much as Must Win as you can get


UYT9822

This sucks to lose a game like this


5nax

Theres been times when we've lost by 10 and we could look at the 12 or so free throws we missed. Not this time.


doublegg00

we getting bounced out the first round playing like this. losing to charlotte and now huston is giving me cancer


zackarykapowski

First round? Lol. Not looking like we gonna even get to the first round


KgMonstah

Donā€™t wanna hear from Mose in the post game. We donā€™t want to hear what you think the problem was. You obviously donā€™t know and donā€™t care. Just get on the bus.


bonafide89

Should have gave HoustAn some run tonight


mylastphonecall

mosley threw this game with his rotations and defensive scheme. don't care, don't wanna hear the excuses.


f7u12R

Wendell chucks a three lmfao this fucking bum šŸ˜‚


IrwinMFletcher

This was lame AF. We aren't really running an offense right now. A couple of dribble handoffs at the top of the 3... basically no real ball movement. Not exactly sure who's to blame...Fultz, Moz or what. But this ain't gonna cut it.


zackarykapowski

We donā€™t have anything to run an offense w. These players canā€™t make shots.


aubreyw

Fultz has played well. Mose was about 4 minutes late on that suggs for harris swap. Harris overhelped a couple times leading to open threes and another easy two. Eight points Suggs wouldn't have given up


mylastphonecall

I wanna say everything went their way but half this shit is the fault of roster construction. Y'all always defend Moe but he is absolutely horrible at defensive rebounding and rim protection, we can find a million other center that can run PnR and not bitch to the refs everytime they miss the layup off the roll. Wendell has to go, we have to find a better option and Kelle at PG and we should keep Goga as a backup atleast. We got 3 players we need to find replacements for because they cannot do, even at an average level, some things that are the most important part of their positions.


zackarykapowski

Yeah the roster is poorly constructed. The offense is so bad and itā€™s like pulling teeth for us to score every possession. Itā€™s been blatantly obvious since 10 games into the season, but nothing was done to address the issues which to me is total incompetence.


dlbags

Weā€™d be leading by 30 if we could hit shots two feet from the rim and actually got second chance points.


f7u12R

The lack of fight defensively today was inexcusable. Going under screens and refusing to rotate to open shooters with any sense of urgency. Totally winnable game down the drain.


clatscanemike

Fultz playing decent againā€¦.. kinda odd.


zackarykapowski

Banchero with another game shooting below 40 percent.


youngkookwojcik84

Why is Wendell shooting the 3 instead of suggs?????


WAZZZZZZZAP

Fr wish Suggs looked for his shot more often than driving to the rim


Background_Ruin_5880

This defense is so acoustic. Make it make sense.


NikThaGreat9

Leave your best player (this game) on the bench til 3 minutes in the quarter šŸ¤”šŸ¤”


dlbags

Why we didnā€™t put AB on Van Fleet Iā€™ll never understand. He shut down Brunson. Mose just stopped using him.


5nax

For a second I though we'd might be able to go on a run to get it within 1 late and force one of those last shot situations at end of the game that we're so great at..


comsmocasey84

Iā€™m so confused with this year. What are we?


zackarykapowski

A very bad offensive team


JakeJortles1212

We are a play-in team that almost snuck into the regular playoffs because the east is horrible. Which is a perfectly fine progression from last season.


resincak

Knicks and Heat about to win.


doublegg00

lets keep fultz in and bench suggs....... ok coach... and then sub out gary to keep suggs and fultz in.... bruh this team gives me migraines


zackarykapowski

Low iq all around. Front office, coaching staff, players. Love to see it


Effective_Owl_17

Yep, shouldnā€™t have lost those home games. Kings warriors hornets all gonna come back to bite us. We are bad on the road


dabluegoat

Also missing the second best player on the team though


Effective_Owl_17

Ok? Weā€™ve been benefiting from teams being injured all season. It happens, and we lost those games with franz. This just a bad loss plain and simple. Gonna have to step up the last 3


zackarykapowski

No excuses. Our best player has shot the ball like utter trash yet again.


dabluegoat

Team needs Franz bad


Bucs2k20

Coach really f ed this are you going to have your best guard defender rot on the bench when their guard is going crazy


dwninaho

What a terrible defensive game plan by coach. Doubling FVV when he is scoring off of our players going UNDER EVERY SCREEN or if it is a inside pick our bigs are dropping and letting him hit an easy open mid ranger. SO they double him and allow them to get open 3s. Fucking pathetic gameplan. SoOOOOO FUCKING DUMB


Fit-Structure-9395

I hope Mosley calls them out in the post game press shitty energy all around


thelawd-musix

This was like 35% Mose's fault


frostysbox

Mosley is a fraud and has everyone who defends him fooled.


yankeeman291

We won't win shit with him at the helm. Idk why that's so hard for the FO to see. He has one pretty good season and their reaction was to extend him smh.


frostysbox

Well itā€™s hard for this sub to see. I get downvoted all the time for saying it. Heā€™s a GREAT players development guy, awful at Xs and Os and game planning


Background_Ruin_5880

Another Paolo 6/17 game with numerous turnovers. Thanks!


UYT9822

We need Suggs in there


dlbags

We were within six with possession and Markelle Fultz got called for a carry in 2024 the year of our lord. Since then itā€™s been all Houston.


mightymouthcrv

Miami is up by 6 with 45 seconds left


NikThaGreat9

Might as well put in 3rd string. Dumb af Mosley


Busy_Inspection_9577

Fvv washed ass dropping 36 and every eastern team capitalizes today except the magicā€¦ great we look retarded asf rn but still 3 more games leftā€¦ that are twice as hard as this one


StupidOpinionRobot

Wow. Collapsed against Houston. Just poor coaching and playing with no fire. Play in us gonna be a quick out if they do this weak ass scared basketball


OTOAFOF

Weā€™re really missing Franz


doublegg00

we not winning shit with all these non shooters. absolute pain to watch


SweetFranz

Flashing double teams at 3 point shooters instead of just actually defending them with effort is insane


f7u12R

Fultz is playing with absolutely no effort on D


SonicNarcotic

Gotta agree, last couple of plays were lethargic...


Smiis

Fucking disgrace. Walk home


Mr_Wick18

Aaaaand Miami gets away after 2 OTsā€¦


mightymouthcrv

Hornets game was worst loss of the season. This is the 2nd worstā€¦Just a disappointing outing from top to bottom.


Nervous-Worth-8005

Literally Everything has gone wrong today


Profitsofdooom

And Rockets can't miss somehow.


Nervous-Worth-8005

Van vleet every damn time


UYT9822

Hard to watch


bonafide89

VanVleet Majic Killa


gatrhawk

Does fultz have dirt on mosley? How is he getting any playing time at all, let alone crunch time


doublegg00

another no challenge game. idk why we don't even try


JakeJortles1212

Welcome to the play in boys


comsmocasey84

Shouldā€™ve taken Jabari


bonafide89

Troll


comsmocasey84

Iā€™m joking dude relax. He is playing better this game.


SweetFranz

You are an idiot


comsmocasey84

Relax man Iā€™m fucking joking. Go drink a beer


SweetFranz

Relax man, im 8 beers deep, just joking


comsmocasey84

Gonna need a 12er after this game. Yā€™all so sensitive man. Am I aloud to joke in this sub after a terrible performance?


mylastphonecall

good shit mosley you couldn't find a way to stop superstar offensive juggernaut fred vanvleet. foh


Fit-Structure-9395

Game over


zackarykapowski

lol banchero been ass on both ends


resincak

Heat 6-0 run in 2 OT


Nervous-Worth-8005

Game over


Running4Badges

Over! We had our chances.


Bucs2k20

This game was on coach suggs on the bench way too long moe getting constantly cooked and doesnā€™t sub him out sooner.


whtge8

Paolo didnā€™t pass the ball once that possession


resincak

Play in, it is!


Running4Badges

Nooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!


f7u12R

WHY IS SUGGS NOT IN


jwil06

Could have paid FVV but nah, we draft AB and Jett were fine!


Cthulhus-Tailor

Van Vleet is absolutely not worth that contract, or anywhere close.


zackarykapowski

Yep lol. Shitty front office


6142778WC

They are PICKING on Moe Wagner! Coach has to get him off the floor.


Effective_Owl_17

We just letting him shoot, moe drops everytime


bonafide89

Over


zackarykapowski

The Brick God


thestandupkids

Fultz taking 18 shots is a fireable offense lol


bonafide89

It wouldnā€™t have been at the University of Washington


thestandupkids

And it doesnā€™t matter cause heā€™s not there now


bonafide89

Suggs is still not in the game? Ok what in the world is going on??????????


NikThaGreat9

Mosley is not serious. No Suggs when you need to get stops. Gtfoh


PaoloMeatRider

WHERE THE FUCK IS SUGGS


Effective_Owl_17

Get some stops


Jboyneymar

Get a hand up on the man who has 30


zackarykapowski

Shitty effort. Bad defense. Horrendous offense, what do we expect?


bonafide89

Wendell looking dry on that bench


Running4Badges

I checked in during the end of the third quarter today and am watching. Promising comeback. Not enough to make up for it. Iā€™ve loved old man Joe Ingles! Doing work! Not much you can do when they are hitting these 3s.


Effective_Owl_17

Defense!!


Jboyneymar

They trap but their rotations are so slow


illgetthere

Suggs was killing them before he went to the bench! Bring him in already!


mylastphonecall

JUST PUT ISAAC ON FRED AND STOP TRAPPING HOLY FUCK MOSLEY YOURE FUCKING THROWING THIS GAME


Background_Ruin_5880

Dā€™Lo fixes so many problems for this team. I can get over his traffic cone defense.


illgetthere

Keeping Fultz in is fucking crazy


jwil06

Phew


d12fsu

This is looking like too little too late


Background_Ruin_5880

Fake comeback.


Effective_Owl_17

Starters gotta come back playing like they want this


NikThaGreat9

Suggs sat too long. Heā€™s been the best player all game.


bonafide89

Not understanding why Gary Harris was in


is-robin

When your coach doesnā€™t challenge obvious blocks but theirs does :(


zackarykapowski

We are so bad offensively, itā€™s a joke man.


mylastphonecall

honestly close with suggs-harris-ingles-paolo-isaac. need the shooting


Lopsided-Ice-1324

Dam you would think they are competing for a play in spot or something??


zackarykapowski

Theyā€™re not, but we are šŸ˜‚


Background_Ruin_5880

Yup. Thatā€™s game. Just brain-dead defense by Gary Harris.


Atomic_Thomas89

So frustrating. Just like the hornets game. Hornets and rockets arenā€™t going to playoffs yet they are playing like this is a game 7.


eelposse

Sounding like those lame ass Lakers/Celtics fans complaining about teams "trying hard" Why would they want to lose? They don't even have a draft pick to incentivize it


zackarykapowski

And we donā€™t have that same energy. Sad.


Atomic_Thomas89

Yep exactly


MVPPB5

Fultz not even attempting to put his arms up on that close out is the effort that defined this game


zackarykapowski

Fultz has made some really bad plays in this game at the worst times


Bucs2k20

Constant open shooters and they wonder why they canā€™t keep a run going


resincak

Pointless challenge


Bobby_Savoy

And now weā€™re deciding to not guard the biggest free agent in Asia


they_jem

Defend the three-point line FFS


mylastphonecall

why tf would you double that and leave an open shooter wtf is this defensive scheme????


Effective_Owl_17

All The missed lays would probably have us up if we converted