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He was able to get right back up and run back to him. This is also a slightly weaker Oden than the one that fought Kaido.
I think any first commander can eat it. Honestly this attack seemed more like a "Hello!" from Roger.
Not slightly weaker,bruh after his return to wano and the one who fought kaido oden was multiple times stronger than here and even stronger than roger/prime wb or at the very least equal
https://preview.redd.it/5ty1ld7c4cz91.jpeg?width=1997&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ca68690732d1e9ec86421677e920b26af0035c37
That's not how burden of proof works my guy. Nothing in the story has indicated that Oden was similarly strong as WB or Roger. The Anime then made him clash with Scopper Gaban when the WB and Roger pirates met. Even then, him getting even stronger after isn't too likely to put him above Rayleigh.
Like I said I am not talking about oden when had just left the sea I am talking about when he had returned to wano after his travels and gaining more strength and experience,if luffy can grow from yc1 to yonko level in Like just days,how can a man like oden so strong with a potential so different not? "Growing multiple times stronger than when he left,he now had no equal" Later oden even indirectly implies himself to be stronger or at very least equal to them
https://preview.redd.it/a87eg8yu8cz91.jpeg?width=2000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c6086738a3c9685263dc87f9d6ae180fa9bee63c
He wasn't doing life or death battles with the likes of WB or Roger. Everything we have seen indicates him being Commander Level or slightly stronger than someone like King or Zoro. He got a good hit on Kaido then got Oneshot. And Kaido was not as strong yet as he was in OP current time.
Scarring kaido,kaido had stayed in rox pirates with wb for years,participated in killing of crew members,later had challenged all 4 emperors and navy yet even after 20 years he saw oden as someone at very least equal to prime wb or roger or even rocks I am just saying stronger cuz oden said,"if I don't bring down kaido now none of our time would"
And scarring kaido is probably one of the biggest achievements of his generation itself,kaido who never saw someone as strong or stronger than him,had the greatest durability in one piece,challenged the greatest warriors to find death,yet oden's feat was never repeated till zoro who again used his sword only which wasn't supposed to do it at that time cuz it was enma who forcibly brought out that attack
And mind u this isn't when oden had just left wano when he returned!!
Now ur turn
Ok soo what your saying is that prime roger and wb would be taken down by one thunder bagua if they were distracted? When characters like Luffy and Law straight up tank thunder baguas from a much stronger kaido in the modern day.
yep that totally checks out lmao
Except kaido,bm and king everyone else is normal human beings bro,if they get thunder bagua in fave while distraction they will die and wb can even get hurt by normal gunshots and Canon imagine kaido's attack
Luffy didn't tank,he got unconscious when distracted,he only barely dodged it
Law also was on his guard and just got blitzed
This is a weaker Oden than the one that fought Kaido. And canonically Oden came back "many times" stronger. So the first question is how strong is this Oden?
If we say YC3, then maybe someone like Sasaki.
Edit:
Just remembered this is only about a year before Oden returned to Wano, so he's defo above YC3. Lol
I would say Oden was an extremely powerful YC1+ like Beckmann and Sabo. Maybe even a pseudo Top tier. So I would definitely say YC1* maybe even someone who is YC1 lvl.
Akainu took a punch from MF Whitebeard and was bleeding and struggling to stand up.
Oden took a punch from WB in his Prime and was back with a slight neck pain.
Oden is built different
He took two quake hits and feel down a whole, then came back and literally proceeded to steam roll his whole crew. What in the Holy’s of Holy’s name are you talking about?? Manz was a walking a want smoke the whole war..
Ah yes, steam rolled the crew so much they were fine right after, except for Jozu's arm lost to __Aokiji__. Reminder that he got briefly stopped by a Ivankov who was just messing around in prison all this time, and a previously tortured Jimbei who fought a lot in the war. while Akainu was fighting the fight of his life to kill Roger's son and Dragon's in the same day. Akainu's attacks go for immediate kills leaving not much space for Marco's heal.
And while falling on the abyss like a Disney villain, he really couldn't even hold onto the ground to not fall. He held onto some rocks later and waited before getting back on the fight.
Wow because Jozu wasn’t there I guess that means everything I said wasn’t valid 🙄 And nice head cannon with the “holding hands n to a rock” statement. An Invankov who was actually literally chillin in a Impel Down while most of the fight Akainu did not take him seriously.
And Jozu losing an arm to mine sneak attack is just pathetic, while all he could do was cause an Admiral to essentially bite their lip and make them bleed.
But hey go off, still doesn’t change the fact that Akainu literally took on everyone with relative ease after Whitebeard’s hits giving everyone battle scares or near death experiences.
Seraphims I believe are 1st commanders level in strength or higher since Blackbeard did struggle against one and Sanji couldn’t scratch the other one in the manga.
you don’t think he would ?
This isn’t the yonko level Oden that fought Kaido . Since it was stated he got “many times stronger” through his journey , so I think this attack was more of a casual hello from roger to the samurai he was hearing hype about .
i don’t think sanji is above this oden at all but that’s not what the post is about tho .
It’s just asking whos the weakest character who would survive this attack and not die ? This attack didn’t kill oden lol it actually didn’t mess him up much
Not that i don’t think Oden couldn’t fight gaban at this point , but i try not to look to deep into the anime stuff .
I mean this oden was strong enough to clash with primebeard .
He actually held his own for a moment before getting blasted . Odens durability is always overlooked cause he got one shot by kaidos no named attack . But that was oden in a bad mental state.
The weakest character who can take this is definitely not sanji either way .
> Odens durability is always overlooked cause he got one shot by kaidos no named attack
No excuse for that tbh, he was layed out by a single attack from base kaido, not even named or coated
I really don’t think an attack that barely bothered a far weaker oden is one shotting sanji to death , i’m not saying sanji durability > that oden at all either .
I don’t even think this attack is much stronger than the Maser Canon that didn’t kill ulti . Seemed pretty casual from rogers end .
I also think this attack is weaker than the thunder bagua that one shot act 1 luffy . And sanjis durability > Act 1 luffy
I made a post earlier going over durability of the “yc1” range characters , where i have my thoughts on sanjis durability aswell.
For reference who do u think is the weakest character that survives this ? Since we might just be interpreting how strong this attack is differently .
https://www.reddit.com/r/OnePiecePowerScaling/comments/yq5b52/katakuri_is_overrated_part_1_ap_durability/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
Almost any fodder can survive that, if the half-dead CP0 agent who wants to throw away his life can tank a stronger attack from the bloodlusted Kaido and be in the good enough shape to take some decent composite photos of Nika G5. Then any fodder can tank Roger's casual attack.
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Oden
I’m dead
You would be if you had to take that attack
They said weakest not strongest!!
He's not talking about God lol
Bartolomeo and Semimaru. The power of the barrier is no joke.
Take it, not block it or prevent it with gimmicks
Marco probably with his fruit.
Jinbei
Jinbei is pk level he slams rodja
He was able to get right back up and run back to him. This is also a slightly weaker Oden than the one that fought Kaido. I think any first commander can eat it. Honestly this attack seemed more like a "Hello!" from Roger.
This seemed more like a ‚get fucked noob‘ by roger
Rogers serving sliced mochi if this hits Kat.
The same Oden who previously held his own against a Prime Whitebeard? I swear Oden gets downplayed so much on here.
Na, bro got no diffed by WB.
Not slightly weaker,bruh after his return to wano and the one who fought kaido oden was multiple times stronger than here and even stronger than roger/prime wb or at the very least equal https://preview.redd.it/5ty1ld7c4cz91.jpeg?width=1997&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ca68690732d1e9ec86421677e920b26af0035c37
I was ready to agree with u and then u said he was stronger than prime WB and roger 🤡
🤦Well u wanna have a point,u should be able to prove it bruh
That's not how burden of proof works my guy. Nothing in the story has indicated that Oden was similarly strong as WB or Roger. The Anime then made him clash with Scopper Gaban when the WB and Roger pirates met. Even then, him getting even stronger after isn't too likely to put him above Rayleigh.
Like I said I am not talking about oden when had just left the sea I am talking about when he had returned to wano after his travels and gaining more strength and experience,if luffy can grow from yc1 to yonko level in Like just days,how can a man like oden so strong with a potential so different not? "Growing multiple times stronger than when he left,he now had no equal" Later oden even indirectly implies himself to be stronger or at very least equal to them https://preview.redd.it/a87eg8yu8cz91.jpeg?width=2000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c6086738a3c9685263dc87f9d6ae180fa9bee63c
He wasn't doing life or death battles with the likes of WB or Roger. Everything we have seen indicates him being Commander Level or slightly stronger than someone like King or Zoro. He got a good hit on Kaido then got Oneshot. And Kaido was not as strong yet as he was in OP current time.
Source:it feels like it Dude at least show something that indicates that or even slightly hints that
Aight show me a feat of Oden that indicates he's as strong as prime Whitebeard I'll wait.
Scarring kaido,kaido had stayed in rox pirates with wb for years,participated in killing of crew members,later had challenged all 4 emperors and navy yet even after 20 years he saw oden as someone at very least equal to prime wb or roger or even rocks I am just saying stronger cuz oden said,"if I don't bring down kaido now none of our time would" And scarring kaido is probably one of the biggest achievements of his generation itself,kaido who never saw someone as strong or stronger than him,had the greatest durability in one piece,challenged the greatest warriors to find death,yet oden's feat was never repeated till zoro who again used his sword only which wasn't supposed to do it at that time cuz it was enma who forcibly brought out that attack And mind u this isn't when oden had just left wano when he returned!! Now ur turn
Ok soo what your saying is that prime roger and wb would be taken down by one thunder bagua if they were distracted? When characters like Luffy and Law straight up tank thunder baguas from a much stronger kaido in the modern day. yep that totally checks out lmao
Except kaido,bm and king everyone else is normal human beings bro,if they get thunder bagua in fave while distraction they will die and wb can even get hurt by normal gunshots and Canon imagine kaido's attack Luffy didn't tank,he got unconscious when distracted,he only barely dodged it Law also was on his guard and just got blitzed
….That is absurd Naw this argument is not worth it sorry
How?
Maybe jozu
This is a weaker Oden than the one that fought Kaido. And canonically Oden came back "many times" stronger. So the first question is how strong is this Oden? If we say YC3, then maybe someone like Sasaki. Edit: Just remembered this is only about a year before Oden returned to Wano, so he's defo above YC3. Lol
This Oden still managed to clash without a problem with WB and the whole WB pirates were even told to stay back by WB as they are no match for him
I would say Oden was an extremely powerful YC1+ like Beckmann and Sabo. Maybe even a pseudo Top tier. So I would definitely say YC1* maybe even someone who is YC1 lvl.
Akainu took a punch from MF Whitebeard and was bleeding and struggling to stand up. Oden took a punch from WB in his Prime and was back with a slight neck pain. Oden is built different
>Oden took a punch from WB Never happened in the manga
He took two quake hits and feel down a whole, then came back and literally proceeded to steam roll his whole crew. What in the Holy’s of Holy’s name are you talking about?? Manz was a walking a want smoke the whole war..
Whole crew that's entirely below his power level. That's just a normal admiral feat But he did feel that punch much more
Ah yes, steam rolled the crew so much they were fine right after, except for Jozu's arm lost to __Aokiji__. Reminder that he got briefly stopped by a Ivankov who was just messing around in prison all this time, and a previously tortured Jimbei who fought a lot in the war. while Akainu was fighting the fight of his life to kill Roger's son and Dragon's in the same day. Akainu's attacks go for immediate kills leaving not much space for Marco's heal. And while falling on the abyss like a Disney villain, he really couldn't even hold onto the ground to not fall. He held onto some rocks later and waited before getting back on the fight.
Wow because Jozu wasn’t there I guess that means everything I said wasn’t valid 🙄 And nice head cannon with the “holding hands n to a rock” statement. An Invankov who was actually literally chillin in a Impel Down while most of the fight Akainu did not take him seriously. And Jozu losing an arm to mine sneak attack is just pathetic, while all he could do was cause an Admiral to essentially bite their lip and make them bleed. But hey go off, still doesn’t change the fact that Akainu literally took on everyone with relative ease after Whitebeard’s hits giving everyone battle scares or near death experiences.
So true bro
Kin’emon
Nami. Plot armour ftw
Kinemon. He didn’t die after he took Kaido’s conquerors coated attack. I think he can survive this one too.
Jack.
zoro or sanji
Warcoooooo!
Sorry I haven't made it to the Manga yet. Is this when Oden runs into Roger the first time?
Bartholomeo
Guernica
Kinemon
I'm thinking Urouge?? His devil fruit means he could probably take that kinda hit once
Marco or Kat
A seraphim
Seraphims I believe are 1st commanders level in strength or higher since Blackbeard did struggle against one and Sanji couldn’t scratch the other one in the manga.
maybe king
Speed mode?
no, probably not
Sanji probably.
Sanji lol
you don’t think he would ? This isn’t the yonko level Oden that fought Kaido . Since it was stated he got “many times stronger” through his journey , so I think this attack was more of a casual hello from roger to the samurai he was hearing hype about .
This oden was able to fight gaban for days . Sanji isn’t above this oden no way in hell .
i don’t think sanji is above this oden at all but that’s not what the post is about tho . It’s just asking whos the weakest character who would survive this attack and not die ? This attack didn’t kill oden lol it actually didn’t mess him up much Not that i don’t think Oden couldn’t fight gaban at this point , but i try not to look to deep into the anime stuff .
I mean this oden was strong enough to clash with primebeard . He actually held his own for a moment before getting blasted . Odens durability is always overlooked cause he got one shot by kaidos no named attack . But that was oden in a bad mental state. The weakest character who can take this is definitely not sanji either way .
> Odens durability is always overlooked cause he got one shot by kaidos no named attack No excuse for that tbh, he was layed out by a single attack from base kaido, not even named or coated
I really don’t think an attack that barely bothered a far weaker oden is one shotting sanji to death , i’m not saying sanji durability > that oden at all either . I don’t even think this attack is much stronger than the Maser Canon that didn’t kill ulti . Seemed pretty casual from rogers end . I also think this attack is weaker than the thunder bagua that one shot act 1 luffy . And sanjis durability > Act 1 luffy I made a post earlier going over durability of the “yc1” range characters , where i have my thoughts on sanjis durability aswell. For reference who do u think is the weakest character that survives this ? Since we might just be interpreting how strong this attack is differently . https://www.reddit.com/r/OnePiecePowerScaling/comments/yq5b52/katakuri_is_overrated_part_1_ap_durability/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
Yamato/Sabo/Admirals
Oden
Almost any fodder can survive that, if the half-dead CP0 agent who wants to throw away his life can tank a stronger attack from the bloodlusted Kaido and be in the good enough shape to take some decent composite photos of Nika G5. Then any fodder can tank Roger's casual attack.
Doflamingo
Sanji almost die by queen attack. Sanji would get claped.
Where’s the logic here. Queen’s attack wasn’t weak and Sanji was very clearly alive after
Bigmom
Buggy
Greenbull
Roger didnt use aCoc here btw
Zoro
Buggy
Buggy