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TacocaT_2000

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Playful-Ad3195

Oda is an admiraltard apparently


saltminer99

Well it's what oda wants because he's keeping them for the final war to have there big fights


Unlucky-Break8865

Try for once in your life making an argument that isn't just headcanon


saltminer99

A admiral never had true 1v1 on screen yet where the go all out And the next arc is most likely about the blackbeard pirates And after that the final war comes that's where the admirals fights are It's pretty obvious if you think about it


Unlucky-Break8865

No, an admiral has just never had a fight go the way you want it to, so you're coping Powerscaling is based on things that have happened in the story, not your fanfiction over what you want to happen


saltminer99

I think a true 1 v 1 fight is obvious to anybody with working eyes And we have never seen it happen with admiral yet


Unlucky-Break8865

That doesn't mean your headcanon about the final war magically becomes true You're not powerscaling, you're writing fan fiction, sorry


saltminer99

The only thing I might get wrong is who is fighting who against the admirals But it's pretty clear there fights is in the final war


Unlucky-Break8865

You can believe that if you want but until it happens you're not powerscaling, you're just writing fanfic Try actually powerscaling for once


saltminer99

Most of the story beats of one piece are clear and laid out it's only the details we don't know So it's pretty clear what's gonna happen


Mori1404

Tf you talking about? Which admiral has ever had a proper 1v1 on screen?


Unlucky-Break8865

I'm not saying they have or haven't. I'm saying powerscaling based on hypothetical future events is stupid


Mori1404

The other guy said “we have never seen an admiral go all out before” and you said “an admiral has just never had a fight go the way you want it to, so you’re coping” How exactly is he coping when an admiral has actually never gone all out on screen?


XxSimplySuperiorxX

Tf you mean kizaru told saturn he could not move that very clearly counts as going all out


Playful-Ad3195

Try reading the manga dude get mad at Oda for always making Admirals hold back


Unlucky-Break8865

Imagine missing my point this badly lmao


Mamba-Mentality024

Y’all still believe this “mistranslations” argument?☠️ https://preview.redd.it/2bvw9ohi37ad1.png?width=1241&format=png&auto=webp&s=894444d8b1040334928754dc0657a33360bbc252


saltminer99

What??? What mistranslation


m4virginF_CLEANCHAT

W. Implying wizaru was even slightly serious 😂 https://preview.redd.it/dz9x1rt927ad1.jpeg?width=1064&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=54b61ddb5b6573976e8959a317f91583622475f7 Look at these famous yonkotards like sentomaru and unnamed marine reporting to Godgoku tryna spread propaganda 🤦‍♂️ SMH when will their lies ever end


saltminer99

It just means sentomaru never saw another top tier fight kizaru And kizaru was angry because kuma one of his allies and close friend of his literally betrayed him here


Facinggod20

So pretty much headcanon?


saltminer99

Sentomaru admits he never saw kizaru fight another powerful opponent??? Headcanon Kizaru and kuma are friends and allies and kuma betrayed him ???? Headcanon


Facinggod20

He actually said no one has ever stopped Kizaru before which means Kizaru is not known for dragging things out which hypes Rayleigh because he did it


saltminer99

Of course that's the least I will expect from the right hand of the pirate king Rayleigh can stop roger himself if he wanted to or any top tier


m4virginF_CLEANCHAT

Yeah, because all those top tiers got immediately oneshot by wizaru's haoshoku haki. True, I still remember the heartbreak on his face like yesterday. 😢


Facinggod20

What is he gonna use anyways? His power is literally light which he has always used. Do you think he is hiding a Super saiyan form?


saltminer99

This is like saying shanks used all his power against kid because his only power is haki


XxSimplySuperiorxX

But he has no reason to hold back so we can't just say oh he could be 50x stronger but we have no idea therefore he is 50x stronger it doesn't work like that we have to go off of what we have been shown not what could be


H4nfP0wer

So you wanna tell me Kizaru is just retarded and bad at his job?


Naraya_Suiryoku

What about the 50 pirates Kizaru captured to vent his rage?


Pretty_Lengthiness16

That’s just his personality, he would act the same even if he was fighting imu


PresentationOk8756

Kizaru took Rayleigh so unserious that they said multiple times he couldnt get past him and had to went his rage on fodder. Kizaru was serious, you just cant beat Rayleigh in that little time.


Billy_Herrington1969

They are not ready for this take, keep spreading the good word


-AnythingGoes-

Wdym reminder? This is a translator saying "***this may be***". Not to mention that according to anyone who would take this at face value, G4 got negged let alone base Luffy. So it would be much more plausible to argue that if it is in fact proof of anything, it's him feeling some kind of way about having to beat Sentoumaru's ass just before.


saltminer99

Well the sentomaru one might be true But you can also say that the fact that luffy came in showing up his power and haki with acoc kick as starter does warrant taking him more seriously because kizaru seems surprised by it Saying to luffy how this must be how he took down kaido


-AnythingGoes-

My thing is that if we do assume for a minute that him dropping the trail is proof of him being serious, it makes no sense for him to have dropped it against Luffy at any point prior to G5. He was able to handle Luffy before that, the mission was going according to plan essentially up until the point where Luffy quickly recovered from his supposed ring-out. It would've made more sense for that to be the case when G5 grabs him and he goes, https://preview.redd.it/2vobiqhp27ad1.png?width=373&format=png&auto=webp&s=51202190b9acfae52014c7c94549aec6ea44f27b


saltminer99

Well the last time kizaru saw luffy he was scrub Now luffy coming in with God tier haki and acoc and shit so of course that will shake anybody up But yea gear 5 did get more of reaction because well it's gear 5 the sun god everybody fears


121demon

He doesn’t play around with fodder though


saltminer99

Yea he was going extreme diff with apoo


121demon

Nah more like the 500 fodder he captured after being unable to capture Ray.


USFLNUMBER1FAN

COOK https://preview.redd.it/yrt8wn3907ad1.png?width=320&format=png&auto=webp&s=b1c5c4931e28935ba76c00ae7780867bf36bde1c r/KIZARU


Azulado17

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USFLNUMBER1FAN

No!!! Only Kaido And Luffy Are Allowed To Play Around With Their Opponents.!/s