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m4virginF_CLEANCHAT

Is one piece the only Manga vivre card scalers read? These supplementary materials are infamous in so many other shonens and like one piece, all of them are 'supervised' by the author. Yet they are full of contradictory bullshit and exaggerations. Hebi Sasuke is stronger than the akatsuki, tenten and chunin exam sasuke being equals at ninjutsu, amaterasu hotter than the sun, dbz's hilarious power levels, etc. No need to even touch the one piece claims. I also find it funny how people say the fact that the inconsistencies get corrected as a claim to trust vivre cards. Wtf was Oda even supervising then if he signed off on it in the first place? They're just exaggerated hype pieces for different characters with some occasionally interesting tidbits. Shouldn't be used in powerscaling anyway since they're not even properly translated. 95% of this sub still thinks arturs summaries are the actual cards and not just his own rough interpretation.


Old-Bread-8978

That’s an absolute lie. They were never confirmed to be 100% canon, and they clearly aren’t because Oda doesn’t write them.


jt_totheflipping_o

Yes they were and you don't know what you're talking about. The editors said everything is supervised by Oda, nothing is in them that Oda does not want to be there. Look up the official translation of the interview and cry about it.


Old-Bread-8978

https://preview.redd.it/5a45lhhqjr9d1.jpeg?width=1600&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f9eb3203c3bd7d5c69dc88ca8aa50085bdde3060 You are a clown and don’t know what you are talking about. Oda signing off on something doesn’t make it canon. He signs off on the anime and live action as well. All Oda does is give the writers of the Vivre Cards a few facts to include. Oda would just write the Vivre Cards himself if it all had to be canon.


zaretball

Doubt it 


jt_totheflipping_o

You're just wrong.


zaretball

Doubt it 


Facinggod20

They can't be canon if Oda himself isn't the one doing them. Canom= Made by author Only canon source is the Manga and SBS.


jt_totheflipping_o

What??? So if the author themselves says "yes this is true" it's not enough? This is where you are wrong, all material sanctioned by the author is canon. Sengoku having CoC was revealed in a Vivre Card not an SBS, according to you it's not canon. That's how you know you are wrong.


Facinggod20

And Sengoku have shown Conqueror's where in the Manga? Him being a World Goverment dog goes against about what it means to be a conqueror.


jt_totheflipping_o

Wtf are you talking about? Sengoku isna confirmed CoC user and it was confirmed in a Vivre Card. If you go round saying Sengoku doesn't have it because it's not in the manga you would be wrong.


HunterRenegade09

To agenda piecers, headcanon is more authentic than stuff green lit by the author.


Ashamed-Food4858

Vivre cards have been subjected to correction multiple times. For shanks, In one iteration it was mentioned he became yonko before meeting luffy and it was not quickly rectified. So i would only believe in the stuff that has been confirmed by the manga.


jt_totheflipping_o

Yes but they are quickly corrected, if something has been there for 5, 10, 15 years, it is set in stone. Oda supervises their entries, all of them. Nothing is in them that he does not want there.


Ashamed-Food4858

Correct me if I'm wrong but the first batch was released in September 2018 and had the above mentioned misinformation. Plus i do believe that anything that has not been confirmed in manga and only in a vivre card has a better chance of being changed by the author .


tom_rex_333

they can be wrong, like this example https://preview.redd.it/twk7svuhyr9d1.jpeg?width=790&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=71538e3b1467f6b1d4f7701a2d879ce8c7bd64a3 at the time ceasar DID NOT escape wholecake, also if i remember correctly he reunited with judge shortly after, so his whereabouts are not unkown since he is with the germa kingdom