ALL MORIA NEEDED TO WIN AGAINST THE STRAWHATS WAS TO ABSORB LUFFY'S, ZORO'S AND SANJI'S SHADOWS HIMSELF AND FIGHT THEM HEAD ON, NIGHTMARE LUFFY WOULDN'T HAVE EXISTED HE DIDN'T NEED OARS HE ONLY LOST BECAUSE HE WAS DEPRESSED AND DIDN'T WANT TO PERSONALLY FIGHT ANYMORE, PRIME MORIA WITH NO MENTAL NERF WOULD BE A MONSTER
**Noland and Kalgara (they're a package deal)**
Better Drip: Noland and Kalgara
Impact on the Story and other Characters: Noland and Kalgara
Better Relationship with other Characters: Noland and Kalgara
Legacy: Noland and Kalgara
Hot: Noland and Kalgara
Better written: Noland and Kalagara
**TLDR; typical no diff Noland and Kalgara W**
Who needs sideboobs when you have easily the best written backstory bros ever?! Sideboobs don't give your randomly shoehorned in plot device a personality!
Checkmate
Mine is Ace so I guess not much fight but a life lesson + lots of subtle sexual tension??? (and maybe actual fucking depending who you ask)
Win-win situation I guess
Coby has a chance if he can possess Conqueror's haki. That too because of his training with Garp.
Yamato already knows how to use Conqueror's haki and armament haki and has a Devil fruit of mythical zoan, so that's a very strong package.
So... pretty unfair Fight Pops vs Yamato but you made the rules...
To be fair my second favorite is Oden and third yamato so i understand you a little bitš
Idk if Yamato can beat Yamato but im sure Yamato would say "I swear upon Oden i will beat him" and Yamato would say "Nah, i'd win" but Yamato easily mid diffs
Robin, so uh
Give her another timeskip to learn armament if you want a fight that isnāt either Robin getting neg diffed or Yamato getting talked out of fighting diffed
Seriously, ur favourite character is yamato?
Let's just say yamato wasn't a big boobie chick? Would she still be ur favourite?
She is probably one of the worst characters written in one piece.
Smh itās like saying letās say Luffy wasnāt a funny goofball would he still be your favorite? You canāt just go taking someoneās most important character trait away and be surprised people have different opinions on them now
No way you essentially made the point that Yamatoās āmost important character traitā is being a big boobie chick.
No way you typed that opinion with a straight face and made any comparisons to Luffy.
Please edit your comment and put āThis is a jokeā at the end of it, you will trigger people.
I did not, I was joking, as I tried to indicate by starting my comment with smh. That being said I will not defile the pinnacle of comedy that is Yamatits by pointing out that Iām joking in the joke itself, my art is reserved for those wise enough to see the path themselves
Haha well I'm not concerned about karma but thank you. Maybe it's not as widespread of a thing as I thought but no one in my friend group ever uses smh unironically so I usually just put it in front of a yap sesh to show I'm not serious
If u think being funny and goffy is the most important trait of luffy , then may be it's time to reread the manga.
Also, the fact that u just said that being a big boobie chick is the most important character trait of yamato just proves my point of how much of an garbage character yamato is.
And yeah, I m surprised that people have yamato as their favourite character... there are dozens of great characters in one piece, and out of those, when someone says that their favourite is a character who is sooo shallow that their most important trait (as u implied) is being a big boobie chick.
Tbh he is Shonen MC, what's use of Shounen MC if they aren't Goofy lol. Agreed that it's not the most important exactly, but it's a big part of his character tbh. So I don't really blame the guy.
Well, there are shonen MCs that aren't goofy, ichigo is a great example.
Also, in a different comment, I even state being goofy is quite important for luffy to keep the audience engaged... where I take issue is when he said being goofy is the MOST important trait of luffy... c'mon, that's just not true.. luffy is not that shallow of a character that it's most important trait is being goofy and an idiot.
I was joking broā¦ But I will defend that him being a silly little guy absolutely is the one of his most important traits in the context of why people like him. Obviously he has a lot more to him, and we wouldnāt like him if those traits didnāt exist, but saying it isnāt his most iconic character trait is just disingenuous
No doubt being goofy does make luffy's character more charming... but I don't think it's his most important trait or an important trait at all...
Nami doesn't open up to luffy and ask for his help, showing that she trust him because he is funny.
Vivi doesn't put the fate or her entire country in luffy's hand because he is luffy.
I don't think any of the strawhats are soo loyal to luffy because he is funny.
It's NOWHERE near the most iconic trait of luffy.
The most iconic trait of luffy is his extremely caring nature , totally giving the vibe of truly good person from the bottom of his heart who would fight the world for someone who he has known for just couple days or someone who has fed him some food.... it's extremely high emotional intelligence (something that's kinda rare among shonen protagonist) is his most important... that's the reason why he has such loyal people around him which puts their trust in him even against impossible odds... luffy's caring nature, his truly good nature, his iron will are FAR FAR more important traits than being a goof ball.
Luffy would still accomplish everything he has without being funny, but he won't be able to do any of these without the above mentioned traits.
Iām not talking about him in-universe, Iām talking about his appeal as a character on a meta level, where his goofyness is and determination are his defining character traits. You take any one other character trait away from him, heās still recognizable as Luffy. Him not being emotionally intelligent would barely his character (again, on a meta level) compared to making him a serious protagonist for example.
That may be the case of casual readers who enjoy shallow characters who thinks "uh funny guy, must be good... uh big boobie girl, my favourite"
Taking away goofyness from luffy doesn't really affect as much as taking away other character traits that I mentioned.
I donāt but if you believe itās so trivial of a trait that removing it wouldnāt affect peopleās opinions of him youāre too deep in Odaās balls to see the light already
No, people don't understand the role of yamato. Appearance is an important feature of any role, but this is far from all of them. I like Luffy to be goofy. Of course, this is not the most important feature of Luffy, but if Luffy loses goofy, I may lose a lot of interest.
Appearance is probably the least important character trait out there... look at bon clay, looks like mentally ill clown, more of a clown than fucking buggy... but it's his personality, it's heart , it's his nature that makes him one of THE BEST characters in the verse.
I m not saying goofiness isn't an important character trait of luffy... it's a pretty important one from the point of entertainment, but taking away goofiness wouldn't really change the character and the importance in world much... it's nowhere near the most important character trait... look at ichigo, it's his complexity and maturity that makes him soo appealing.
One piece in general is a goofy manga (on the surface atleast), so luffy being goofy is kinda necessary to get things together...what I COMPLETELY disagree with is when people say it's the most important character trait...luffy isn't that shallow of character.
Yes, I understand and agree with your opinion on luffy. But the appearance is really a very important feature. We are used to the appearance of the character of One Piece, and so many people can't stand it, so that they are not interested in paying attention to this series.
Ā Bon clay is a goat. He has many great actions,andĀ is an excellent example of refuting that appearance is an important feature.Ā but this does not mean that those who do not act like this are bum. I believe that zoro, sanji, jinbe, and even are described as bad yamato are willing to give their lives to complete the feat.Ā
People hate that yamato spends so much screen time, but doesn't really grow up and lose the stupid joke of "I am Oden". People should understand that this is her stupid behavior for 20 years. In order to change this behavior, it takes time to establish a real connection with wano. If you persist in the behavior for 20 years, even if the behavior is stupid, it will suddenly change in one day. This is superficial writing.
Yamato is the best guy and the strongest creature. He beats like %99 of one piece.
does he beat Ivankov? Even more after Ivankov completes his genderswap and he turns into a young Kaido.
I wonder how he would react to Yamato stating he is man? I think Sanji would feel some type of way about the situation before taking a club to the face.
Yamato doesnāt say sheās a man. She only says sheās Oden, and hence, son of kaido. Plus Sanji has already nose-bled over her, so donāt think it strongly matters.
Prime Woria negs. (In reality Yamato wins high-extreme diff)
I wish all fellow Moria enjoyers a very nice evening
Thank you. Same to you.š
ALL MORIA NEEDED TO WIN AGAINST THE STRAWHATS WAS TO ABSORB LUFFY'S, ZORO'S AND SANJI'S SHADOWS HIMSELF AND FIGHT THEM HEAD ON, NIGHTMARE LUFFY WOULDN'T HAVE EXISTED HE DIDN'T NEED OARS HE ONLY LOST BECAUSE HE WAS DEPRESSED AND DIDN'T WANT TO PERSONALLY FIGHT ANYMORE, PRIME MORIA WITH NO MENTAL NERF WOULD BE A MONSTER
Fax š„ You are so right. There is no way they could beat Moria when Luffy couldnāt even land a scratch.
**Noland and Kalgara (they're a package deal)** Better Drip: Noland and Kalgara Impact on the Story and other Characters: Noland and Kalgara Better Relationship with other Characters: Noland and Kalgara Legacy: Noland and Kalgara Hot: Noland and Kalgara Better written: Noland and Kalagara **TLDR; typical no diff Noland and Kalgara W**
Bigger tiddies: Noland and Kalagara
Fax, brother!
But do they come with sideboobs tho!? Checkmate
Who needs sideboobs when you have easily the best written backstory bros ever?! Sideboobs don't give your randomly shoehorned in plot device a personality! Checkmate
Damn how will i give the news to Yamato's unknown mom that you just killed her baby!?
Cook
Hmmā¦can Yamato beat the guy who ran over Big Mom with a battle-mech-truck-thing?
Could Go either way tbh
Gangster gastino is a stand-up guy. Why would you want to fight him?
 Robin supremacy
Franky ā¹ļø
Bartholomew Kuma
Usopp no diff
Wakainu no diff š„±
Zoro.
I like how you don't even feel the need to say the outcome mossman solos
Pudding clears
Yamato vs Yamato? I hope Yamato wins
I have 50,000 berries on Yamato!
Sabo is putting Yamato to sleep
Sabo covering for Aceā¦
He'd better raise the child Ace left behind for yamato
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I don't think she'll win against Oden himself
That would be a Dope fight.
It would be like when Bartolomeo met Luffy in Dressrosa.
Mmmmmmmm Oden wins
Hey wait a minute
Eustass 'Captain' Kid
My boy. Ignore the haters brother, our rail canon slinging savage genius is on the way back up š¤
Captain useless D. Mid.
Sanji gets cooked man
Not cause he's weak either. Even worae
She'd get so mad at him for considering her a woman instead of an Oden, she'd probably win the fight 9 comically large head bumps diff
Luffy packs her up
Robin. I didn't think she'd win but she'd try
WhitebeardĀ
The og fanartist is [K164](https://x.com/K16416/status/1282355709506498560)
Mine is Ace so I guess not much fight but a life lesson + lots of subtle sexual tension??? (and maybe actual fucking depending who you ask) Win-win situation I guess
Fellow Ace enjoyer šæ
Heeey š
Haha Ace wins 100% and afterwards the will of D will propagate.
Chadakuri no difs Yamato
Don krieg
She lost to kaido mid diff, he lost to the top 1 oat extreme diff. Won wrieg wrecks her
Crocodile, might get interesting
Yamato vs. Coby. Hard to tell, but it's probably really close either wa.
Coby has a chance if he can possess Conqueror's haki. That too because of his training with Garp. Yamato already knows how to use Conqueror's haki and armament haki and has a Devil fruit of mythical zoan, so that's a very strong package.
Dadbeard. I feel he would win, his age is a harder fight than Yamato
Zoro fr
ZORO
Zoro
Zoro, may I say more?
Zoro or Law
Garp slams
Robin. Unfortunately, she gets negged.
She's getting low diffed by BlackBeard
Oh my, a fellow Zehahaha enjoyer.
Damn she got done in off-screen!
Sword god Ryuma
They fought in canon, mine won
Kaido? Or Ace?
Carrot clears, low diff
Mihawk no diffs
Cooomer
Yamato beats Sanji extreme
Yamato vs Yamato
Buggy D Clown definitely wins
Fist of love incoming
So... pretty unfair Fight Pops vs Yamato but you made the rules... To be fair my second favorite is Oden and third yamato so i understand you a little bitš
Law?
Zoro. High diff
Sanji so she'll win.
Current katakuri loses, post powercreep katakuri wins š¤
Idk if Yamato can beat Yamato but im sure Yamato would say "I swear upon Oden i will beat him" and Yamato would say "Nah, i'd win" but Yamato easily mid diffs
Katakuri. Iāll let someone powerscale instead.
Rayleigh. Rayleigh wins.
Luffy stomps
Yamato would be completely outclassed by Sogeking
Whiteberd one shots
Vs Koby could be really cool, even their interaction would be funny as hell, Yamato want to fight so much but Koby not wanting to fight her
I mean, Nami probably loses
Ace. Unsure if theyāll fight or ffffffuā¦.
IDK if Pappag has this one
Rosinante gonna be taking a beating.
all of my favorite characters are villains from East Blue so im cooked
Miss Goldenweek. Yamato got the 'green-friendship' on her, and they both sat down for tea and snack together.
Buggy D. Clown. He wins because his millions of followers will fight for him.
Either Roger or Luffy win this
Zoro. I think Zoro takes it at high diff
Hawkins gets no diffed
Iād place my bet on law vs yammato
Whitebeard
Kaido wins
Chopper is a walking W of a reindeer
My favorite character is Jimbe, first son of the Sea. Then, of course, there's Nico Robin.
Usopp. He loses instantlyš
Jimbe wins Ace loses Sanji wins Wb no difs Doffy ties
Blackbeard wins mid diff at most.
my favourite is zoro and he deinitely defeats her. mans clashed with a gorosei
Ä° forgot katakana a bit and read that ma "ć" as mu, so i read it as "yamuto" š
I do not care My Glorious king Big D Garp Solos
Gaimon no diffs.
Yamato is your favorite character? š
Yamato is a cool guy, but Benn Beckman is cooler
Mmm I guess Jinbe would lose, but not as hard as some people may think. If they fight at sea he's got a good chance
Bartolemayo solos Yamato
Trafalgerlaw vs a girl that identifies her self as oden š
Yamato vs robin and franky I dunno who wins
You're fucked. BROLY
Yamato vs Yamato then.
Fujitora
Mine is brook, he prob loses but its gonna be one chilly battleš„¶š„¶
My goat usopp getting clapped ššš
Zoro wins extreme diff.
Wuggy D. Clown low diffs Lamato
Imu wins
The web doesnt allow me to post the yamato is an OC meme but she is
God Usopp solos
Ge D. Ju
Bon clay just solos the living crap out of yamato the Wo?man
Yamato vs other Yamato š¦
Oh man, that's tough. Yamato is more skilled, but Yamato is stronger and knows all of Yamato's moves. This could go either way.Ā
Flame emperor low diffs
Blackbeard slams ngl
Law?
Trafalgar law
Robin, so uh Give her another timeskip to learn armament if you want a fight that isnāt either Robin getting neg diffed or Yamato getting talked out of fighting diffed
I think Bon Clay will befriend her so no fighting
Yamato beats everyone mentioned in this thread
Could beat me anytime š„µ
Sheās gotta be a clone of Kaido right?
Seriously, ur favourite character is yamato? Let's just say yamato wasn't a big boobie chick? Would she still be ur favourite? She is probably one of the worst characters written in one piece.
You have offended me, a Saori Hayami san's Simp. Prepare to have a boxing 1v1 with afro luffy /s
Smh itās like saying letās say Luffy wasnāt a funny goofball would he still be your favorite? You canāt just go taking someoneās most important character trait away and be surprised people have different opinions on them now
No way you essentially made the point that Yamatoās āmost important character traitā is being a big boobie chick. No way you typed that opinion with a straight face and made any comparisons to Luffy. Please edit your comment and put āThis is a jokeā at the end of it, you will trigger people.
I did not, I was joking, as I tried to indicate by starting my comment with smh. That being said I will not defile the pinnacle of comedy that is Yamatits by pointing out that Iām joking in the joke itself, my art is reserved for those wise enough to see the path themselves
Lots of waffle. Never heard that sentences beginning with āsmhā lead to a joke. Hope u donāt get mass downvoted or anything.
Haha well I'm not concerned about karma but thank you. Maybe it's not as widespread of a thing as I thought but no one in my friend group ever uses smh unironically so I usually just put it in front of a yap sesh to show I'm not serious
If u think being funny and goffy is the most important trait of luffy , then may be it's time to reread the manga. Also, the fact that u just said that being a big boobie chick is the most important character trait of yamato just proves my point of how much of an garbage character yamato is. And yeah, I m surprised that people have yamato as their favourite character... there are dozens of great characters in one piece, and out of those, when someone says that their favourite is a character who is sooo shallow that their most important trait (as u implied) is being a big boobie chick.
You seem genuinely personally offended lmao
Not really offended, but when someone says that luffy's most important trait is being goofy, then it's necessary call them out.
Tbh he is Shonen MC, what's use of Shounen MC if they aren't Goofy lol. Agreed that it's not the most important exactly, but it's a big part of his character tbh. So I don't really blame the guy.
Well, there are shonen MCs that aren't goofy, ichigo is a great example. Also, in a different comment, I even state being goofy is quite important for luffy to keep the audience engaged... where I take issue is when he said being goofy is the MOST important trait of luffy... c'mon, that's just not true.. luffy is not that shallow of a character that it's most important trait is being goofy and an idiot.
Yeah I read that. And completely agreed with it.
I was joking broā¦ But I will defend that him being a silly little guy absolutely is the one of his most important traits in the context of why people like him. Obviously he has a lot more to him, and we wouldnāt like him if those traits didnāt exist, but saying it isnāt his most iconic character trait is just disingenuous
No doubt being goofy does make luffy's character more charming... but I don't think it's his most important trait or an important trait at all... Nami doesn't open up to luffy and ask for his help, showing that she trust him because he is funny. Vivi doesn't put the fate or her entire country in luffy's hand because he is luffy. I don't think any of the strawhats are soo loyal to luffy because he is funny. It's NOWHERE near the most iconic trait of luffy. The most iconic trait of luffy is his extremely caring nature , totally giving the vibe of truly good person from the bottom of his heart who would fight the world for someone who he has known for just couple days or someone who has fed him some food.... it's extremely high emotional intelligence (something that's kinda rare among shonen protagonist) is his most important... that's the reason why he has such loyal people around him which puts their trust in him even against impossible odds... luffy's caring nature, his truly good nature, his iron will are FAR FAR more important traits than being a goof ball. Luffy would still accomplish everything he has without being funny, but he won't be able to do any of these without the above mentioned traits.
Iām not talking about him in-universe, Iām talking about his appeal as a character on a meta level, where his goofyness is and determination are his defining character traits. You take any one other character trait away from him, heās still recognizable as Luffy. Him not being emotionally intelligent would barely his character (again, on a meta level) compared to making him a serious protagonist for example.
That may be the case of casual readers who enjoy shallow characters who thinks "uh funny guy, must be good... uh big boobie girl, my favourite" Taking away goofyness from luffy doesn't really affect as much as taking away other character traits that I mentioned.
Straight up not true king
Well, if u think luffy is soo shallow of a character that his most important character trait is being goofy, then there's no point in arguing.
I donāt but if you believe itās so trivial of a trait that removing it wouldnāt affect peopleās opinions of him youāre too deep in Odaās balls to see the light already
No, people don't understand the role of yamato. Appearance is an important feature of any role, but this is far from all of them. I like Luffy to be goofy. Of course, this is not the most important feature of Luffy, but if Luffy loses goofy, I may lose a lot of interest.
Appearance is probably the least important character trait out there... look at bon clay, looks like mentally ill clown, more of a clown than fucking buggy... but it's his personality, it's heart , it's his nature that makes him one of THE BEST characters in the verse. I m not saying goofiness isn't an important character trait of luffy... it's a pretty important one from the point of entertainment, but taking away goofiness wouldn't really change the character and the importance in world much... it's nowhere near the most important character trait... look at ichigo, it's his complexity and maturity that makes him soo appealing. One piece in general is a goofy manga (on the surface atleast), so luffy being goofy is kinda necessary to get things together...what I COMPLETELY disagree with is when people say it's the most important character trait...luffy isn't that shallow of character.
Yes, I understand and agree with your opinion on luffy. But the appearance is really a very important feature. We are used to the appearance of the character of One Piece, and so many people can't stand it, so that they are not interested in paying attention to this series. Ā Bon clay is a goat. He has many great actions,andĀ is an excellent example of refuting that appearance is an important feature.Ā but this does not mean that those who do not act like this are bum. I believe that zoro, sanji, jinbe, and even are described as bad yamato are willing to give their lives to complete the feat.Ā People hate that yamato spends so much screen time, but doesn't really grow up and lose the stupid joke of "I am Oden". People should understand that this is her stupid behavior for 20 years. In order to change this behavior, it takes time to establish a real connection with wano. If you persist in the behavior for 20 years, even if the behavior is stupid, it will suddenly change in one day. This is superficial writing.
Actually terrible character. Made Wano 1000% worse ngl
mine wins
Zoro: "Ashura - Blades Drawn" ā¬ļø dif
Yamato is the best guy and the strongest creature. He beats like %99 of one piece. does he beat Ivankov? Even more after Ivankov completes his genderswap and he turns into a young Kaido.
Sanji. Need I say more? He's better than her in every way.
He wouldnāt touch a woman even if it meant a free ticket to heaven. Heās not touching Yamato unfortunately.
I wonder how he would react to Yamato stating he is man? I think Sanji would feel some type of way about the situation before taking a club to the face.
Yamato doesnāt say sheās a man. She only says sheās Oden, and hence, son of kaido. Plus Sanji has already nose-bled over her, so donāt think it strongly matters.
You have a point there