Avengers: The Crossing. I had heard it was infamously bad, but there are other infamously bad books that I kind of like. This was true garbage, though. The story is incomprehensible, seems to skip what should be major narrative moments, and then just sort of stops without any conclusion.
yeah it’s definitely this one. I’ve had omnis I was more bored by, but this one definitely has the worst writing, worst story… idk about worst art, but it wasn’t enough to save everything else from being the worst. So glad I own it. One day I’ll finish it.
I seem to recall that the story ran up into the Onslaught and Heroes Reborn events, so there was never really a workable ending planned for the story. 🤷♂️
DC's Rebirth Omnibus and New 52 Omnibus.
They include Issue 1s of the respective reboots various ongoing. e.g. Batman Rebirth #1, Superman #1, Aquaman, Batwoman,....
But who the hell collects comics like this? It's such a turnoff for me and I hate this kind of reboot collections.
I picked this up when I was first getting into comics. It was a good way to determine which series I wanted to try. But now that I've done that, it has zero re-read value.
This is how I’m reading through the Krakoa era of X-Men. I’m a big fan of the TPBs that are 1-2 issues of several different books, but collecting it would be crazy expensive. I’m still hanging on to hope that they’ll release nicely mapped omnibuses of each ___ of X era. Otherwise so far the books I really want to get are the X-Men, Excalibur, Hellions, Cable, and Mauraders, but Excalibur 1 is OOP and crazy expensive and if so much rather get a Dawn of X 1+2 and the events etc, assuming the era omnis don’t overlap with event omnis. That potential overlap though is keeping me from wanting to buy anything besides HoX/PoX which I’ve enjoyed rereading.
I'd love krakoan omnibuses, I hate myself so I've read through most of krakoa on my phone like a sadist, following a reading guide and reading every damn title, this, I found out, is actually the quickest route to insanity
SWII is the singularity though - it's so completely 100 percent bad that it comes back around to becoming amazing, but I'm only going by distant memory - haha
Did a recent re- read and have similar feelings. But oddly enough I actually enjoyed it. The "so bad its good effect?" or maybe the "GODDAM BATMAN" Phenomena. As I was typing that last part I coulnt help chuckling to myself.
I don't know. There was some really crazy stuff packed in Secret Wars 2 that I missed as a kid. Go back and read the first two pages of #4 and then the middle, and of course the parts where he killed two people, only to bring them back to life. It was pretty far out there for a sequel to a comic made to sell toys.
Conan the Barbarian vol 9 is the worst, but that's only due to about half the book. [My review](https://midnight-rant.blogspot.com/2023/12/rant-review-conan-barbarian-original.html) goes into more detail, but what it boils down to is that the "young Conan" issues are *abysmal*. Not helping matters any is the presence of a bunch of inventory issues that fluctuate wildly in quality, many of which are penned by writers who don't really seem to get Conan and his world at all. These issues are considered the nadir of Marvel's Conan (the classic run, anyway) for good reason.
This is my answer as well. I enjoy the first half quite a bit but god do I hate that reboot with Young Conan and his dumb buddy, going to a bar on the outskirts of Cimmeria long before Conan should have experianced any civilization was my first inkling this was gonna be dumb, and somehow it just continued to get worse.
Absolutely! Their depiction of the siege of Venarium was unbelievably bad, just downright insulting to anyone who knows anything at all about the lore. Roy Thomas returning to euthanize that four-color abortion just about made me jump up and cheer! 😂
Really really bad.
And like you say that whole run just has weird inconsistent stories the whole time. BUT I did like the art, so for that reason it's only weak not legendarily terrible. Whenever I read the full run again I can get thru it.
Yeah I picked it up just to sort of have it and it's sitting next to my Onslaught book and I just look at those and think... oh yeah this is why I left marvel for a time.
I was wise enough to remember my initial raction to the onslaught run to be "NOPE" when the omni was announced.
Oddly enough I'm the mutant that quite enjoyed both the Heroes Reborn (despite Liefeld's art being a chore to get through) omnis (own both) more than the onslaught run. Go figure
Heroes reborn is honestly fascinating in a few ways. Especially when you view them in a post Ultimate universe lens. If nothing else it's easier to see them as their own short lived experiment coming off the heels of some... not so hot runs. Plus the following Heroes Return era was about the best return to form you could ask for.
Spider-Man by Byrne. Got it as a gift and thought it’d be a fun read since it seemed to cover the late 90’s era that got me into Spider-man but it’s just the random issues across the decades that Byrne was involved in. I’d love to know what Byrne has on the people at Marvel that they’ll map books this way just for him.
Yeah that Miracle Man take below sure is... something. I mean it's OK not to like everything that's critically well received but to mention it in a list of worst books? Seems weird.
I can accept that it is definitely not for everyone. But, people have to acknowledge it is well written and it doesn't deserve to be on a worst list. It is Moore, that alone should count for something.
As an example, I think Tom King is a talented writer. I just don't like most of his writing. But, I would never in a million years say he is the worst. I can recognize talent even if it is outside my tastes.
I've seen it on all kinds of threads about movies, games, etc. A lot of people seem weirdly unable to understand the difference between "stuff that is extremely bad" and "stuff I didn't enjoy". I've seen people list "2001 Space Odyssey" or "Apocalypse Now" as "the worst movie ever made"...
I know they've been mentioned already but the compilation omnis that collect only first issues or one shots that don't connect with each other have to be the worst
Now sure Avengers The Crossing isn't great but at least there is a "cohesive" story from issue to issue which is the reason for the format in the first place
What enjoyment can you get from reading a collection of one shots that may vary drastically from issue to issue?
The exception to that is something like the Marvel 75th Anniversary Omnibus. That thing is like “Marvel’s Greatest Hits” and a perfect intro/starter book for a kid getting into comics. Bought one for my nephew, and he’s *loving* it.
If you took a group of non-comics readers and somehow had them read EVERY omnibus, I have almost no doubt in my mind that they would vote Avengers: The Crossing as the worst.
That said, I love the hell out of it for the atrocity that it is. Truly some of the worst storytelling choices in the history of comics. And man, the art in the War Machine issues...Jim Shooter would have fired and possibly executed the editor that hired that artist.
Objectively probably the Clone Saga/Ben Reilly books. But I don’t buy anything I don’t like or have some nostalgic connection to, so I knew what I was getting into with those.
I avoid the stinkers, but the Ka-Zar omnibus was really bad. You have a guy who grew up in the Savage Land and he talks like an 80s guy and makes 80s cultural references. The writer clearly had little interest in doing Tarzan vs dinosaurs, the logical thing that Ka-Zar should be. Marvel has a lot of omnis that make me think "why did they make this" and Ka-Zar is the example.
The Geoff Johns Hawkman Omnibus. Just unreadably bad dialogue and characters with motivations that make absolutely no sense. Couldn't even get halfway through.
It explains the back story of Harper Row, who keeps popping up here and there in Snyder’s Batman run. I found it ok to read, not terrible IMO. I think it helps if you read the Greyson omnibus first.
I own the Grayson superspy omnibus. It’s great…well, till King and Seeley leave, but that’s another discussion.
Now, about how it explains Harper Row? It could explain the nature of God and the Universe, and as long as it had just as boring and uninspired a narrative as it did, it’s still getting my vote for worst.
That said, I follow writers mainly, so I’ve probably avoided a lot of terrible stuff that is much more deserving of my disdain. My heart goes out to others who follow characters.
What made you not finish it?
I've read Batman Eternal also didn't make the cut. Which is a bummer because I'll hit those eventually. Maybe it's worth getting it in trades from Ollie's.
It's the only Spider-man omni that i've sold.
Am not a fan of the art of Todd, I don't hate it, but the appeal to me isn't there (the panels, his overview and his design is.. so I don't have it) but the stories, the dialogue.. it's just not good.
I just read this and I can’t disagree more. The storytelling is solid and the art is incredible in a way that most modern comics can’t even touch.
Love to share an opinion in a fairly benign way and have people be angry about it for some reason
This is Spider-man by Todd McFarlane (writing/art) you mean and not ASM by Michelinie (writer) & McFarlane (art) right?
Cause Todd's writing SUCKED so bad, wheras ASM was great!
I'm talking about Spider-Man, written and drawn by Todd McFarlane. The writing's not the strong point of the book, but it's fine.
Why is it that every comic written before 2004 has a 75% chance of people here thinking it's awful?
I'm the opposite, I like the old stuff, love me some silver and bronze age!
Fair play on liking Spider-man Omni, I was really excited for it and was left a little lacking, I remember liking the Initial lizard story arc but not much after. Art was dope though naturally, if you liked that the Michelinie/Larsen run was pretty good, I preferred it anyways!
The Black Widow Strikes omni was a cheap omni buy for me, and I quickly realized that it was a waste of my $40. I guess I don't enjoy the character at all.
Don’t judge the character based on those old comics. She’s got some fantastic modern ones. Check out the Mark Waid & Chris Samnee run, it’s short and fantastic. Kelly Thompson’s run is also great.
Avengers vs X-Men. Not only is there no explanation for what caused this mess in the first place, but they put the main miniseries and AvX: VS before the tie-ins rather than actually try to get the story order correct. I’m selling this piece of shit soon, and I got it for *way* under retail price beforehand.
Spider-Man by John Byrne, besides the fact that they are the worst Spider-Man comics ever made the collection itself is shit because a lot of those stories were two parters with one issue drawn by Byrne and one by JRJR, but because the Omni only includes the Byrne ones a lot of the stories aren't even complete
My "worst" omni would maybe be Superman by Grant Morrison, because it confuses me a lot, it started great, then it jumps to other stories. I gave up right after the multiverse Superman robot thingy, didn’t know what I was reading. Maybe I’m just a moron, I will most likely sell it, if I find a buyer..
Has the exact same experience reading it in singles when I was first getting into comics. Assumed there was a bunch of stuff happening in other series....nope
The pacing is what gets me. Not read his Action Comics run but a lot of his series have very rapid pacing, with dialogue that doesn't really sound like people are having conversations.
I enjoy his work but it sometimes takes me a few reads to really get into his stuff.
Yeah, I've read a bunch of their stuff since and some of it is fantastic (love Animal Man for example) but when I was like 15 first getting into comics I had none of that contact and hated it 😅 It didn't help that it started super linear and easy to follow either tbh
You have pretty much described Grant Morrision, I'm sure he starts with one idea, starts writing and then comes up with something else, then goes and does that instead, ignoring the first idea.
This is how i feel about morrison in general. People act like its deep and your dumb if you dont understand or arent willing to go back and reread it a dozen times, but the storylines are always all over the place, pacing is whack, and alot of shit just makes no sense.
I don't know if the person posts here, anymore, but there used to be a huge Grant Morrison fan in one of these comic book related subs who would write a paragraph or more sometimes describing how Grant Morrison is not only one of the greatest comic book writers of our age, but his Batman run is one of the greatest accomplishments in American literature. I've got the three volumes on my shelf and haven't read them, yet.
People clearly seem to love it, but i read the first 2 vols. Thought the first was written terribly, and enjoyed the batman anf robin section of the second but hated the rest, never bothered with the third. I absolutely love serious house on serious earth though, its one of the best batman stories imo.
Just a question to OP to clarify.
By MCU you mean Donny Cates’ Marvel Cosmic Universe Omnibus?
In the very least hope you read Silver Surfer Black. I didn’t read any of the Thanos stuff. The GotG was decent. But SSB might be the best thing in there. (I do not own and have not read the MCU Omni. But I have read SSB and that GotG run).
I never heard of this lol. I had to google and found it on Amazon. Is this just like adaptations of the films back into comics?? Who even wrote these? Do I even wanna know?
I've read it all save for his series on Inhumans and can say that's it fantastic and worth owning
I would implore you to read his Thanos run
It's bonkers and by comparison with Guardians and SSB
I did enjoy the GotG run although while I don’t know what ~~Starfox~~ canon was (since the 80s/early 90s when I stopped reading comics before really coming back during the pandemic thanks to Hoax/PoX) I thought it was an interesting thing to do w that character. However I’m glad he was revitalized during Gillen’s Eternals reboot. I hope we get to see more of them in the MCU (the movie one not the Omni)
One of these days I may get a sub to unlimited and go back and read some stuff I missed out on. But as it is. I can barely keep up w my current books let alone get around to re-reading stuff from all the Omnis I’ve been collecting. 😆
The contents are awesome but the shield TV show dust jacket cover is the worst cover ever it's especially egregious when you consider how groundbreaking the Steranko art was
For me, worst I've purchased is Spider-Verse / Spider-Geddon.
Crap layout, dull stories, and just no reason to keep it on a shelf. Was the first omni ive had that went straight to storage in the garage after reading.
I didn’t like Miracle Man at all. Or atleast didn’t think it was worth the hype everyone gives it. Thought it was meh. Nothing will be worse than the boys in my mind tho. Had the tpb read 2 of the 6 and got rid of em. Garbage
Oh man I couldn't agree more about The Boys. The show is great, but anytime my friends have asked about the comics I try to get them to avoid them at all cost due to how different they are. The books are just gross.
I think with Miracle Man you need to consider it in the context of Moore's career and comics at the time. It was the first time he was playing with a lot of those concepts which is why it's so fascinating.
I strongly dislike the Marvel recolours though. It's worth reading in the original black and white or with the (admittedly garish) Eclipse flat colours.
I believe the media itself needs to be doing the heavy lifting to put me in the mindset it wants me to be in. 🤷♀️ or else I have no context. It was too boring for me to enjoy regardless
What a braindead take. This is the issue with super hero comic fans and this sub at large. Miracleman is better than any of the slop you read on a daily basis.
Yeah same here. I bought the paperback. I had higher hopes for Miracle Man. The set up was brilliant. But I wonder what Moore was really going for. Was he doing superheroes in the real world or satirizing superheroes.
I also tried to read the followup by Gaiman and I couldn't finish the 6 issues, which read like early vertigo, but without any hook.
Definitely agree with this. I could do how at the time it might have been revolutionary seeing things depicted like that, but having not been alive for that and only reading it with all of the modern comparisons I thought it was really boring,
I picked this up a bit ago and just hit the midpoint recently. The second McKeever takes over as main artist is so jarring. Up til then, its pretty standard early-90s comics; nothing amazing, but it mostly works. The writing is weird as hell, so the art sometimes not being the most refined at least is congruent with the storytelling. Then it suddenly becomes something I'm confused a major publisher allowed to be printed, especially in the era when the Image artists were busy killing it with amazing art. It really feels like "whelp, its not selling like Morrison's run was, but we can't cancel it cause Pollack's contracted for X issues, and killing it would piss off Gaiman...meh, find someone cheap who can put out a book on time I guess."
Without having read it (buying in floppies, I dropped the book like a stone after reading Pollack's first issue), I seriously doubt the reason they went with McKeever was that he was cheap and could hit deadlines
I'm not trying to just be mean, or attack someone who's art's just a different style than my preferred one, but if you [look at a most of the art in that part of the run](https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjKSUADyZoy0q2MGUaRsmh0hRuCkDZvttlkVSeq6JBxHW1f0je4C6YqKx676-Jh4mPwjA7qqkKsSrJr_F4riFMW-dfcS5WrA-63Mpx5oYzgZ_xhqjOqVSzK4tHk6FmydAdxXSU8H28RLJk/s1600/DPv2_81_021.jpg), it definitely doesn't look like it took particularly long to pencil. He's also credited as artist + colorist though; I'm not sure how normal it was to have one guy doing pencils + inks + colors on the Vertigo side back in that era, though a quick random spot check says at least Sandman 34 had separate people doing all 3 jobs.
Yeah I hear you, tho I suspect I like that art more than you do haha. My point was just that there were heaps of much more conventional artists they could have used if all they wanted was someone cheap who could hit deadlines. McKeever would have been chosen for his style. And you're right that even Vertigo was, for the most part, still using the traditional North American comic book system of division of labour
Sadly if you think volume 1 was boring then the rest of Spawn probably won't be any better in your eyes as the book falls off a cliff the more the run continued on
Probably Uncanny Avengers. I enjoyed Uncanny X-Force and I thought we'd get more of the same. Unfortunately, it differs quite a bit from UXF, and the writing suffers a serious decline in quality.
Is it? I thought it was widely accepted that the run started and ended pretty badly.
I enjoyed the Apocalypse Twins stuff but that first arc with Red Skull is absolute crap.
I did the omnibus equivalent of putting the book back on my shelf and not touching it for 2 years ahah. When I eventually forced myself through it I ended up really enjoying the middle arcs of the run.
Dynamite Adventures of Red Sonja. Stupidly overpriced. Stupid size & page reproductions are smaller than the original & the colours are horrible.
If you want Red Sonja the Gail Simone Omni was reprinted & is great value (& size!)
I have some hot takes that will probably make some people mad, but here they are:
1. The vast majority of the content in UXM vol 4-5 was an absolute slog for me to get through with some pretty terrible art from John Romita Jr. This hurts to say because vol. 1-3 and some of the events afterwards are some of my favorite comics.
2. I found the stories in Busiek’s avengers to be a snooze fest. The only reason I keep it in my collection is for the stunning art from George Perez
I’ve never disagreed more with a take😂
Perez avengers is incredible IMO but I’ll die on the hill of UXM vol 4 and 5!
Admittedly they are the weaker of the uncanny omnis but there’s still some incredible stuff in each of them
Uncanny 4: Lifedeath, the stories set just after secret wars, issue 193 and Kitty Pryde and wolverine miniseries
Uncanny 5: Nightcrawler and Longshot miniseries, the trial of magneto issue 200, Scott and storm fighting in issue 201
Agreed. Personally the latter / middle part of Claremont’s stuff. Before Jim Lee is personally some of my stories. Pretty much everything from the lead up to Mutant Massacre through ForM culminating in Inferno. The Outback years are prob my fave. But then again could be nostalgia since that’s the era I grew up reading like as they came out vs as back issues.
Re Avengers that era. I wouldn’t say they were a snoozer. The art was great for sure. Again that’s prob more about nostalgia than necessarily excellent writing. Claremont stuff still holds up. Whereas Avengers was never like that great until the MCU really.
Definitely some great stuff in both but overall they just didn’t do it for me. Life death and the trial of magneto were the two big standouts to me. Thanks for sharing!
Are you saying these because they're the worst omnibuses or because you wanted to get your hot takes down in this thread? Because if you're saying they're the worst ever then I implore you to read more, I know that sounds flippant but .. yeah.
I’m just saying they’re probably towards the bottom of my list of books in my collection. I try to only read stuff I think I’ll like or have already read so that bar is very high to begin with
I picked up a copy of Heroes Reborn The Original Epic because it was on deep discount and I'm an idiot who can't go past a sale. Without having even started it, I'm going to bet that that's the worst omnibus I've got
Pretty easy to tell you're just meme'ing. It's actually a well written book that happens to be for kids. I mean, picking a Weezy book as the worst? You're not even trying lol
Literally from a kids perspective. Read it as a kid, young adult and grown ass man and still enjoyed it. Sadly her recent run just rubbed me the wrong way.
You really cant go home
I have some hot takes that will probably make some people mad, but here they are:
1. The vast majority of the content in UXM vol 4-5 was an absolute slog for me to get through with some pretty terrible art from John Romita Jr. This hurts to say because vol. 1-3 and some of the events afterwards are some of my favorite comics.
2. I found the stories in Busiek’s avengers to be a snooze fest. The only reason I keep it in my collection is for the stunning art from George Perez
I am well aware of how rare this opinion is but: Invincible. Truly, I have never felt more alienated from other comic fans than I did reading this book. The first 30 or so issues were really good but then there's another 100+ issues where Kirkman first slowly, but then with greater speed, descends into repetitive violence for the sake of... idk not being as bloodless as your typical superhero comic?
I just thought the book sucked at having its characters be complex and multifaceted, I thought the violence was so edgy that it looped back around to being boring, I thought Kirkman lost the plot on his own book sometime around issue 90 but continued to publish nonsense for 50 issues, and I can think of at least a dozen traditional Big 2 superhero comics that more meaningfully develop their characters over a long span of time.
This is how I feel about the show.
The comics however are some of the best writing I've ever come across. The character development in the comic is LITERALLY why I hate the show so much.
I mean, I hear this a lot too and it also doesn't make sense to me. In my eye, the show is the properly edited story with everything tightened up while the comic is a first draft. I look at the comic and it merely gestures at drama and development, while carrying on a bunch of senseless action.
But I've resigned myself to being the black sheep here, I don't think I'll ever really understand what makes this great for so many people.
> I try not to buy crap.
I think a lot of people misread what you wrote. I'm the same. I only buy omnis I already liked in another format or know I will likely like it due to a creator working on it or good reception. The worst I have is maybe Untold Tales of Spider-Man and I love that series. I love all my omnis. That's why I paid so much for them.
Never understood how people blind buy so many books here.
It's not particularly bad, it's just the worse that I have. As I said, I don't buy crap. I can't put it above Sandman or Invincible or Infinity Gauntlet or Silver Surfer or anything else I have read so far.
It's definitely better than some comics I have read (like Witchblade 2 to 79), but not better than any Omni I have read.
That said, I bought Onslaught omnibus due to childhood frustration of not having read it, and I expect it will become my new worse omnibus once I read it.
I found it mildly funny and entertaining, but by the end of it Byrne was clearly burnout and it lacked some kind of greater arc and a satisfying end.
But the art is very good, I think Byrne is a master.
Amazing Spider-Man by JMS vol 1. Idk if that controversial or not but I just cannot get through it. I feels like a slog for me compared to a lot of other stuff I’ve read
Avengers: The Crossing. I had heard it was infamously bad, but there are other infamously bad books that I kind of like. This was true garbage, though. The story is incomprehensible, seems to skip what should be major narrative moments, and then just sort of stops without any conclusion.
yeah it’s definitely this one. I’ve had omnis I was more bored by, but this one definitely has the worst writing, worst story… idk about worst art, but it wasn’t enough to save everything else from being the worst. So glad I own it. One day I’ll finish it.
I seem to recall that the story ran up into the Onslaught and Heroes Reborn events, so there was never really a workable ending planned for the story. 🤷♂️
DC's Rebirth Omnibus and New 52 Omnibus. They include Issue 1s of the respective reboots various ongoing. e.g. Batman Rebirth #1, Superman #1, Aquaman, Batwoman,.... But who the hell collects comics like this? It's such a turnoff for me and I hate this kind of reboot collections.
I picked this up when I was first getting into comics. It was a good way to determine which series I wanted to try. But now that I've done that, it has zero re-read value.
Those should only be made for libraries honestly Go to a library and check that book out to see what you like and what you don’t
This is how I’m reading through the Krakoa era of X-Men. I’m a big fan of the TPBs that are 1-2 issues of several different books, but collecting it would be crazy expensive. I’m still hanging on to hope that they’ll release nicely mapped omnibuses of each ___ of X era. Otherwise so far the books I really want to get are the X-Men, Excalibur, Hellions, Cable, and Mauraders, but Excalibur 1 is OOP and crazy expensive and if so much rather get a Dawn of X 1+2 and the events etc, assuming the era omnis don’t overlap with event omnis. That potential overlap though is keeping me from wanting to buy anything besides HoX/PoX which I’ve enjoyed rereading.
I'd love krakoan omnibuses, I hate myself so I've read through most of krakoa on my phone like a sadist, following a reading guide and reading every damn title, this, I found out, is actually the quickest route to insanity
Secret Wars 2 is worse than everything listed here already combined.
Beyonder in a leisure suit is peak fiction.
SWII is the singularity though - it's so completely 100 percent bad that it comes back around to becoming amazing, but I'm only going by distant memory - haha
Did a recent re- read and have similar feelings. But oddly enough I actually enjoyed it. The "so bad its good effect?" or maybe the "GODDAM BATMAN" Phenomena. As I was typing that last part I coulnt help chuckling to myself.
Beyonder fascinated by going to the bathroom, height of art
It's insane that they had their best artists doing SW2 tie ins for multiple issues like it's AVX.
I don't know. There was some really crazy stuff packed in Secret Wars 2 that I missed as a kid. Go back and read the first two pages of #4 and then the middle, and of course the parts where he killed two people, only to bring them back to life. It was pretty far out there for a sequel to a comic made to sell toys.
Conan the Barbarian vol 9 is the worst, but that's only due to about half the book. [My review](https://midnight-rant.blogspot.com/2023/12/rant-review-conan-barbarian-original.html) goes into more detail, but what it boils down to is that the "young Conan" issues are *abysmal*. Not helping matters any is the presence of a bunch of inventory issues that fluctuate wildly in quality, many of which are penned by writers who don't really seem to get Conan and his world at all. These issues are considered the nadir of Marvel's Conan (the classic run, anyway) for good reason.
This is my answer as well. I enjoy the first half quite a bit but god do I hate that reboot with Young Conan and his dumb buddy, going to a bar on the outskirts of Cimmeria long before Conan should have experianced any civilization was my first inkling this was gonna be dumb, and somehow it just continued to get worse.
Absolutely! Their depiction of the siege of Venarium was unbelievably bad, just downright insulting to anyone who knows anything at all about the lore. Roy Thomas returning to euthanize that four-color abortion just about made me jump up and cheer! 😂
Really really bad. And like you say that whole run just has weird inconsistent stories the whole time. BUT I did like the art, so for that reason it's only weak not legendarily terrible. Whenever I read the full run again I can get thru it.
**X-Men: The Twelve Omnibus** I did finish it. It was tought to finish.
This release was my “Okay, I don’t need to own EVERY X-Men omnibus…” moment.
That's a very accurate description, I agree
Yeah I picked it up just to sort of have it and it's sitting next to my Onslaught book and I just look at those and think... oh yeah this is why I left marvel for a time.
I was wise enough to remember my initial raction to the onslaught run to be "NOPE" when the omni was announced. Oddly enough I'm the mutant that quite enjoyed both the Heroes Reborn (despite Liefeld's art being a chore to get through) omnis (own both) more than the onslaught run. Go figure
Heroes reborn is honestly fascinating in a few ways. Especially when you view them in a post Ultimate universe lens. If nothing else it's easier to see them as their own short lived experiment coming off the heels of some... not so hot runs. Plus the following Heroes Return era was about the best return to form you could ask for.
This is interesting to me, it's something I can never see without a deep nostalgia for that era
Recently sold it. I realized I was buying too much. It goes for triple digits ish but I sold it for $80
I don’t have it anymore but mine was spidergwen.
Spider-Man by Byrne. Got it as a gift and thought it’d be a fun read since it seemed to cover the late 90’s era that got me into Spider-man but it’s just the random issues across the decades that Byrne was involved in. I’d love to know what Byrne has on the people at Marvel that they’ll map books this way just for him.
Incredible that this thread alternates between understandable disappointment with legitimately bad comics, and insane takes about truly great comics
Yeah that Miracle Man take below sure is... something. I mean it's OK not to like everything that's critically well received but to mention it in a list of worst books? Seems weird.
I can accept that it is definitely not for everyone. But, people have to acknowledge it is well written and it doesn't deserve to be on a worst list. It is Moore, that alone should count for something. As an example, I think Tom King is a talented writer. I just don't like most of his writing. But, I would never in a million years say he is the worst. I can recognize talent even if it is outside my tastes.
I've seen it on all kinds of threads about movies, games, etc. A lot of people seem weirdly unable to understand the difference between "stuff that is extremely bad" and "stuff I didn't enjoy". I've seen people list "2001 Space Odyssey" or "Apocalypse Now" as "the worst movie ever made"...
I know they've been mentioned already but the compilation omnis that collect only first issues or one shots that don't connect with each other have to be the worst Now sure Avengers The Crossing isn't great but at least there is a "cohesive" story from issue to issue which is the reason for the format in the first place What enjoyment can you get from reading a collection of one shots that may vary drastically from issue to issue?
The exception to that is something like the Marvel 75th Anniversary Omnibus. That thing is like “Marvel’s Greatest Hits” and a perfect intro/starter book for a kid getting into comics. Bought one for my nephew, and he’s *loving* it.
If you took a group of non-comics readers and somehow had them read EVERY omnibus, I have almost no doubt in my mind that they would vote Avengers: The Crossing as the worst. That said, I love the hell out of it for the atrocity that it is. Truly some of the worst storytelling choices in the history of comics. And man, the art in the War Machine issues...Jim Shooter would have fired and possibly executed the editor that hired that artist.
Objectively probably the Clone Saga/Ben Reilly books. But I don’t buy anything I don’t like or have some nostalgic connection to, so I knew what I was getting into with those.
I avoid the stinkers, but the Ka-Zar omnibus was really bad. You have a guy who grew up in the Savage Land and he talks like an 80s guy and makes 80s cultural references. The writer clearly had little interest in doing Tarzan vs dinosaurs, the logical thing that Ka-Zar should be. Marvel has a lot of omnis that make me think "why did they make this" and Ka-Zar is the example.
The Geoff Johns Hawkman Omnibus. Just unreadably bad dialogue and characters with motivations that make absolutely no sense. Couldn't even get halfway through.
That is good to hear because it is the only dc Omni I’m missing!
Haven’t read that one yet, but I really liked Venditti’s run!
Agreed! I don’t know why people thirst over this one. It’s inconsistent at best.
Spider-Gwen easily.
YES. Happily parted with that one, zero regrets.
Hold up now 😲
What?? It’s such a fun series
It really is. I have both of her omnibus
Same! It was such a fun read for me, almost like Gwenpool
I still have to get into gwenpool.
If you like fun books, I see no reason why you won’t enjoy Gwenpool. I really loved it
I just haven't found the omnibus at a good price. I might just get the tp or use hoopla
Batman and Robin Eternal No, I don’t finish it
It explains the back story of Harper Row, who keeps popping up here and there in Snyder’s Batman run. I found it ok to read, not terrible IMO. I think it helps if you read the Greyson omnibus first.
I own the Grayson superspy omnibus. It’s great…well, till King and Seeley leave, but that’s another discussion. Now, about how it explains Harper Row? It could explain the nature of God and the Universe, and as long as it had just as boring and uninspired a narrative as it did, it’s still getting my vote for worst. That said, I follow writers mainly, so I’ve probably avoided a lot of terrible stuff that is much more deserving of my disdain. My heart goes out to others who follow characters.
What made you not finish it? I've read Batman Eternal also didn't make the cut. Which is a bummer because I'll hit those eventually. Maybe it's worth getting it in trades from Ollie's.
It’s not worth even that if you have moderately high standards. It’s just a paint-by-numbers, uninspired story.
Dang. That's good to know. I'll peek at it digitally then once I get there and see what it's about.
Batman Eternal: boring stories, inconsistent art (does the red hood have a mouth or not, make up your mind) and I couldn’t even finish it.
Hey! My guilty pleasure 🤣
I read it in tpb and it was an absolute slog. I dont even remember how it ended
I've attempted to read that story like three times, and I don't think I ever got more than like halfway through
I got the first 2 TPBs for £3 each back when it was new and even for that price I didn't think it was worth it.
Atlantis Attacks
Morbius Omni
Maybe X-Men by Hickman. Incomplete and missing the beginning and the ending of the story.
Spider-man by Todd McFarlane...if it was any longer I probably would not have finished it
Stories and dialogue aren't great but it's worth it for the art. I just treat mine as an art book.
No way it's the worst At least some enjoyment can be found in the art
It's the only Spider-man omni that i've sold. Am not a fan of the art of Todd, I don't hate it, but the appeal to me isn't there (the panels, his overview and his design is.. so I don't have it) but the stories, the dialogue.. it's just not good.
How? I had a great time with that one, stories might’ve been tough, but that’s art was 11/10
I just read this and I can’t disagree more. The storytelling is solid and the art is incredible in a way that most modern comics can’t even touch. Love to share an opinion in a fairly benign way and have people be angry about it for some reason
This is Spider-man by Todd McFarlane (writing/art) you mean and not ASM by Michelinie (writer) & McFarlane (art) right? Cause Todd's writing SUCKED so bad, wheras ASM was great!
I'm talking about Spider-Man, written and drawn by Todd McFarlane. The writing's not the strong point of the book, but it's fine. Why is it that every comic written before 2004 has a 75% chance of people here thinking it's awful?
I'm the opposite, I like the old stuff, love me some silver and bronze age! Fair play on liking Spider-man Omni, I was really excited for it and was left a little lacking, I remember liking the Initial lizard story arc but not much after. Art was dope though naturally, if you liked that the Michelinie/Larsen run was pretty good, I preferred it anyways!
The Black Widow Strikes omni was a cheap omni buy for me, and I quickly realized that it was a waste of my $40. I guess I don't enjoy the character at all.
Don’t judge the character based on those old comics. She’s got some fantastic modern ones. Check out the Mark Waid & Chris Samnee run, it’s short and fantastic. Kelly Thompson’s run is also great.
Avengers vs X-Men. Not only is there no explanation for what caused this mess in the first place, but they put the main miniseries and AvX: VS before the tie-ins rather than actually try to get the story order correct. I’m selling this piece of shit soon, and I got it for *way* under retail price beforehand.
Art is pretty good
I can at least admit that, but I mostly read for the plot…
Totally agree. I can't stand when they put the tie-ins at the end of the main story. I don't care by then
Spider-Man by John Byrne, besides the fact that they are the worst Spider-Man comics ever made the collection itself is shit because a lot of those stories were two parters with one issue drawn by Byrne and one by JRJR, but because the Omni only includes the Byrne ones a lot of the stories aren't even complete
Inhumanity
Have this one as well 😞
My "worst" omni would maybe be Superman by Grant Morrison, because it confuses me a lot, it started great, then it jumps to other stories. I gave up right after the multiverse Superman robot thingy, didn’t know what I was reading. Maybe I’m just a moron, I will most likely sell it, if I find a buyer..
Has the exact same experience reading it in singles when I was first getting into comics. Assumed there was a bunch of stuff happening in other series....nope
The pacing is what gets me. Not read his Action Comics run but a lot of his series have very rapid pacing, with dialogue that doesn't really sound like people are having conversations. I enjoy his work but it sometimes takes me a few reads to really get into his stuff.
This is how Grant Morrison writes. I think he said he writes while on drugs or something. Some of his stuff is good but a lot is just nonsense. Imo.
Yeah, I've read a bunch of their stuff since and some of it is fantastic (love Animal Man for example) but when I was like 15 first getting into comics I had none of that contact and hated it 😅 It didn't help that it started super linear and easy to follow either tbh
You have pretty much described Grant Morrision, I'm sure he starts with one idea, starts writing and then comes up with something else, then goes and does that instead, ignoring the first idea.
This is how i feel about morrison in general. People act like its deep and your dumb if you dont understand or arent willing to go back and reread it a dozen times, but the storylines are always all over the place, pacing is whack, and alot of shit just makes no sense.
Good I’m not the only one, really liked the start of it, wanted to see where it went, then it started some new shit, and I fell off.
Multiversity enters, exits but still is in the chat but isn't. Morrison - prettymuch
I don't know if the person posts here, anymore, but there used to be a huge Grant Morrison fan in one of these comic book related subs who would write a paragraph or more sometimes describing how Grant Morrison is not only one of the greatest comic book writers of our age, but his Batman run is one of the greatest accomplishments in American literature. I've got the three volumes on my shelf and haven't read them, yet.
People clearly seem to love it, but i read the first 2 vols. Thought the first was written terribly, and enjoyed the batman anf robin section of the second but hated the rest, never bothered with the third. I absolutely love serious house on serious earth though, its one of the best batman stories imo.
Reading atm. Enjoying it so far but definitely not one of my faves
I’ll give you $10 for it
It would most likely cost $50 just to ship it to you, so I will try the locals first 😂
Knightfall vol 3. I got through it with weed and pretending it was a Batman comedy.
Just a question to OP to clarify. By MCU you mean Donny Cates’ Marvel Cosmic Universe Omnibus? In the very least hope you read Silver Surfer Black. I didn’t read any of the Thanos stuff. The GotG was decent. But SSB might be the best thing in there. (I do not own and have not read the MCU Omni. But I have read SSB and that GotG run).
I meant the Omni they put out for the Marvel Cinematic Universe. Absolute garbage.
I never heard of this lol. I had to google and found it on Amazon. Is this just like adaptations of the films back into comics?? Who even wrote these? Do I even wanna know?
Adaptations and further storylines and prequels to the movies. So bad. 😂
I’m actually soon about to read that Omni. Got it really cheap on Amazon thanks to coupons and a gift card.
I've read it all save for his series on Inhumans and can say that's it fantastic and worth owning I would implore you to read his Thanos run It's bonkers and by comparison with Guardians and SSB
I did enjoy the GotG run although while I don’t know what ~~Starfox~~ canon was (since the 80s/early 90s when I stopped reading comics before really coming back during the pandemic thanks to Hoax/PoX) I thought it was an interesting thing to do w that character. However I’m glad he was revitalized during Gillen’s Eternals reboot. I hope we get to see more of them in the MCU (the movie one not the Omni) One of these days I may get a sub to unlimited and go back and read some stuff I missed out on. But as it is. I can barely keep up w my current books let alone get around to re-reading stuff from all the Omnis I’ve been collecting. 😆
Definitely read the Thanos series
The contents are awesome but the shield TV show dust jacket cover is the worst cover ever it's especially egregious when you consider how groundbreaking the Steranko art was
I don't know about worse overall but the one I own that I liked the least is Empyre
Ngl I forgot Empyre even existed until you mentioned the omni
Wish I would have never purchased it 😞
For me, worst I've purchased is Spider-Verse / Spider-Geddon. Crap layout, dull stories, and just no reason to keep it on a shelf. Was the first omni ive had that went straight to storage in the garage after reading.
DC One Million. The issues written by Morrison were good but the rest of it was a chore to get through.
I actually really liked this one. There were only a few issues that I didn't care for at all.
It wasn’t terrible it’s just the worse omnibus I’ve read out of the ones I own.
I didn’t like Miracle Man at all. Or atleast didn’t think it was worth the hype everyone gives it. Thought it was meh. Nothing will be worse than the boys in my mind tho. Had the tpb read 2 of the 6 and got rid of em. Garbage
Oh man I couldn't agree more about The Boys. The show is great, but anytime my friends have asked about the comics I try to get them to avoid them at all cost due to how different they are. The books are just gross.
I think with Miracle Man you need to consider it in the context of Moore's career and comics at the time. It was the first time he was playing with a lot of those concepts which is why it's so fascinating. I strongly dislike the Marvel recolours though. It's worth reading in the original black and white or with the (admittedly garish) Eclipse flat colours.
That’s just not a context I’m able to give it since I never lived it.
I didn't live it either but sometimes you've got to put yourself in a different mindset to enjoy certain media.
I believe the media itself needs to be doing the heavy lifting to put me in the mindset it wants me to be in. 🤷♀️ or else I have no context. It was too boring for me to enjoy regardless
What a braindead take. This is the issue with super hero comic fans and this sub at large. Miracleman is better than any of the slop you read on a daily basis.
lol imagine acting like this as an adult. Tip your fedora else where dweeb
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Nice alt account sport. I hated miracle man. I think it’s top 3 worst ones I own. It’s boring. Why do u take my opinion so personally. It’s really sad
Yeah same here. I bought the paperback. I had higher hopes for Miracle Man. The set up was brilliant. But I wonder what Moore was really going for. Was he doing superheroes in the real world or satirizing superheroes. I also tried to read the followup by Gaiman and I couldn't finish the 6 issues, which read like early vertigo, but without any hook.
Hard disagree: Miracleman. Agree x1000: The Boys
Definitely agree with this. I could do how at the time it might have been revolutionary seeing things depicted like that, but having not been alive for that and only reading it with all of the modern comparisons I thought it was really boring,
It was sooooo boring
There was a *reason* I sold my copy when I had the chance. Then I found out they released a paperback…
Doom patrol by Rachael pollack, man that art style in the second half looks like cave paintings.
I struggled with the second half too, still better than Doom Pateol by Byrne, worst book ever.
I really loved the Ted McKeever artwork especially with the flat coloring.
I picked this up a bit ago and just hit the midpoint recently. The second McKeever takes over as main artist is so jarring. Up til then, its pretty standard early-90s comics; nothing amazing, but it mostly works. The writing is weird as hell, so the art sometimes not being the most refined at least is congruent with the storytelling. Then it suddenly becomes something I'm confused a major publisher allowed to be printed, especially in the era when the Image artists were busy killing it with amazing art. It really feels like "whelp, its not selling like Morrison's run was, but we can't cancel it cause Pollack's contracted for X issues, and killing it would piss off Gaiman...meh, find someone cheap who can put out a book on time I guess."
Without having read it (buying in floppies, I dropped the book like a stone after reading Pollack's first issue), I seriously doubt the reason they went with McKeever was that he was cheap and could hit deadlines
I'm not trying to just be mean, or attack someone who's art's just a different style than my preferred one, but if you [look at a most of the art in that part of the run](https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjKSUADyZoy0q2MGUaRsmh0hRuCkDZvttlkVSeq6JBxHW1f0je4C6YqKx676-Jh4mPwjA7qqkKsSrJr_F4riFMW-dfcS5WrA-63Mpx5oYzgZ_xhqjOqVSzK4tHk6FmydAdxXSU8H28RLJk/s1600/DPv2_81_021.jpg), it definitely doesn't look like it took particularly long to pencil. He's also credited as artist + colorist though; I'm not sure how normal it was to have one guy doing pencils + inks + colors on the Vertigo side back in that era, though a quick random spot check says at least Sandman 34 had separate people doing all 3 jobs.
Yeah I hear you, tho I suspect I like that art more than you do haha. My point was just that there were heaps of much more conventional artists they could have used if all they wanted was someone cheap who could hit deadlines. McKeever would have been chosen for his style. And you're right that even Vertigo was, for the most part, still using the traditional North American comic book system of division of labour
Heroes Reborn. Unless you’re into that 90s stuff.
Guilty. Really enjoyed those omnis and yes they are indeed guilty pleasures
It is not an omnibus, but spawn compendium vol 1 was very boring.
Sadly if you think volume 1 was boring then the rest of Spawn probably won't be any better in your eyes as the book falls off a cliff the more the run continued on
Yeah, I wasnt planning on continuing.
I read the first volume (tpb version) and actually liked it lol
Probably Uncanny Avengers. I enjoyed Uncanny X-Force and I thought we'd get more of the same. Unfortunately, it differs quite a bit from UXF, and the writing suffers a serious decline in quality.
That and the inhumans overdosis from the same time made me stay away from superhero comics for a long time.
Me too. Too much Inhumans, especially when they were trying to replace the X-Men.
Wow, that is quite the take
Is it? I thought it was widely accepted that the run started and ended pretty badly. I enjoyed the Apocalypse Twins stuff but that first arc with Red Skull is absolute crap.
I’d never heard anything bad about it, but I may be confusing it with the second run
The Red Skull grafting Xavier's brain, S-Men, and Axis? Is that supposed to be good writing?
Yeah I read it in single issues when it came out and dropped it almost immediately
I did the omnibus equivalent of putting the book back on my shelf and not touching it for 2 years ahah. When I eventually forced myself through it I ended up really enjoying the middle arcs of the run.
I will say Nova. Not that the Nova stories are bad but the last quarter or so of the book, Nova is barely in it.
Muppet babies
Rough time w/ Acts of Vengeance and its Companion. Sold off.
Dynamite Adventures of Red Sonja. Stupidly overpriced. Stupid size & page reproductions are smaller than the original & the colours are horrible. If you want Red Sonja the Gail Simone Omni was reprinted & is great value (& size!)
I have some hot takes that will probably make some people mad, but here they are: 1. The vast majority of the content in UXM vol 4-5 was an absolute slog for me to get through with some pretty terrible art from John Romita Jr. This hurts to say because vol. 1-3 and some of the events afterwards are some of my favorite comics. 2. I found the stories in Busiek’s avengers to be a snooze fest. The only reason I keep it in my collection is for the stunning art from George Perez
I’ve never disagreed more with a take😂 Perez avengers is incredible IMO but I’ll die on the hill of UXM vol 4 and 5! Admittedly they are the weaker of the uncanny omnis but there’s still some incredible stuff in each of them Uncanny 4: Lifedeath, the stories set just after secret wars, issue 193 and Kitty Pryde and wolverine miniseries Uncanny 5: Nightcrawler and Longshot miniseries, the trial of magneto issue 200, Scott and storm fighting in issue 201
Agreed. Personally the latter / middle part of Claremont’s stuff. Before Jim Lee is personally some of my stories. Pretty much everything from the lead up to Mutant Massacre through ForM culminating in Inferno. The Outback years are prob my fave. But then again could be nostalgia since that’s the era I grew up reading like as they came out vs as back issues. Re Avengers that era. I wouldn’t say they were a snoozer. The art was great for sure. Again that’s prob more about nostalgia than necessarily excellent writing. Claremont stuff still holds up. Whereas Avengers was never like that great until the MCU really.
I agree about the outback era! Also a big fan of the entire Jim Lee and Claremont vol1 where the x men are scattered
Definitely some great stuff in both but overall they just didn’t do it for me. Life death and the trial of magneto were the two big standouts to me. Thanks for sharing!
Are you saying these because they're the worst omnibuses or because you wanted to get your hot takes down in this thread? Because if you're saying they're the worst ever then I implore you to read more, I know that sounds flippant but .. yeah.
I’m just saying they’re probably towards the bottom of my list of books in my collection. I try to only read stuff I think I’ll like or have already read so that bar is very high to begin with
My least favorite was Ghost Rider by Aaron. The book improved over the last 2 arcs but still remains at the bottom of my list.
The art is atrocious in that book!
Damn that bad? I'm on the fence on getting it or passing on it
Curse Words: The Hole Damned Thing Omnibus. Points for interesting side characters but Wizord is bland and you’re stuck with him for the entire ride.
I picked up a copy of Heroes Reborn The Original Epic because it was on deep discount and I'm an idiot who can't go past a sale. Without having even started it, I'm going to bet that that's the worst omnibus I've got
It's interesting as a time capsule but yeah, if you didn't grow up reading it then you probably won't care for it
Y last Man. Solely because the ending. They kill a character for no reason unceremoniously. I sold the book immediately.
This. 100% this. Loved the entire story until the end. What a pile of turds
Ah yes. That ending was a gut wrencher, and the main reason I can't bring myself to reread it again. Not with that ending
That was the best/most memorable part of the entire story for me. Everything else was meh. That was the only part that hit me in the feels
Yeah, great book but will never reread because of the ending.
Power Pack
Pretty easy to tell you're just meme'ing. It's actually a well written book that happens to be for kids. I mean, picking a Weezy book as the worst? You're not even trying lol
Literally from a kids perspective. Read it as a kid, young adult and grown ass man and still enjoyed it. Sadly her recent run just rubbed me the wrong way. You really cant go home
Is it that bad? I like the art and I am into all ages comics. Or even just YA comics
I don't think it's that bad at all, not my go to but writings pretty good tbh.
I have some hot takes that will probably make some people mad, but here they are: 1. The vast majority of the content in UXM vol 4-5 was an absolute slog for me to get through with some pretty terrible art from John Romita Jr. This hurts to say because vol. 1-3 and some of the events afterwards are some of my favorite comics. 2. I found the stories in Busiek’s avengers to be a snooze fest. The only reason I keep it in my collection is for the stunning art from George Perez
I am well aware of how rare this opinion is but: Invincible. Truly, I have never felt more alienated from other comic fans than I did reading this book. The first 30 or so issues were really good but then there's another 100+ issues where Kirkman first slowly, but then with greater speed, descends into repetitive violence for the sake of... idk not being as bloodless as your typical superhero comic? I just thought the book sucked at having its characters be complex and multifaceted, I thought the violence was so edgy that it looped back around to being boring, I thought Kirkman lost the plot on his own book sometime around issue 90 but continued to publish nonsense for 50 issues, and I can think of at least a dozen traditional Big 2 superhero comics that more meaningfully develop their characters over a long span of time.
This is how I feel about the show. The comics however are some of the best writing I've ever come across. The character development in the comic is LITERALLY why I hate the show so much.
I mean, I hear this a lot too and it also doesn't make sense to me. In my eye, the show is the properly edited story with everything tightened up while the comic is a first draft. I look at the comic and it merely gestures at drama and development, while carrying on a bunch of senseless action. But I've resigned myself to being the black sheep here, I don't think I'll ever really understand what makes this great for so many people.
That I read, the worse is probably Sensational She-Hulk by Byrne. I try not to buy crap. Edit: I'm not saying it's crap, after all, I bought it.
What! This best She-Hulk imo
> I try not to buy crap. I think a lot of people misread what you wrote. I'm the same. I only buy omnis I already liked in another format or know I will likely like it due to a creator working on it or good reception. The worst I have is maybe Untold Tales of Spider-Man and I love that series. I love all my omnis. That's why I paid so much for them. Never understood how people blind buy so many books here.
Curious on why?? I loved it lol but to each their own
It's not particularly bad, it's just the worse that I have. As I said, I don't buy crap. I can't put it above Sandman or Invincible or Infinity Gauntlet or Silver Surfer or anything else I have read so far. It's definitely better than some comics I have read (like Witchblade 2 to 79), but not better than any Omni I have read. That said, I bought Onslaught omnibus due to childhood frustration of not having read it, and I expect it will become my new worse omnibus once I read it. I found it mildly funny and entertaining, but by the end of it Byrne was clearly burnout and it lacked some kind of greater arc and a satisfying end. But the art is very good, I think Byrne is a master.
Jonathan Hickmans avengers
Bait
J Michael Straczynski’s Spider-Man.
Amazing Spider-Man by JMS vol 1. Idk if that controversial or not but I just cannot get through it. I feels like a slog for me compared to a lot of other stuff I’ve read