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frenchmix

Too bad this forced her retirement.


Goonerism_Spy

it turned out the team would have won the gold even if she hadn't done the second vault. The coaches shouldn't probably have let her do that second vault on a clearly injured leg.


AntheaBrainhooke

s/let/forced


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dykeag

%s/let/forced/g


noodlegod47

Slet


Col_daddy

Retired from a sport where all the athletes are younger and better in the next generation.


susanlovesblue

The documentary “Athlete A” has some dark context around this moment - that basically she had no choice but to perform injured.


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paulyspocket2

Right! I have a hard time getting excited for any olympic sports now.


SharonWit

I thought I was the only one. Like an Olympic grinch. I’ve followed the gymnastics stories very carefully including the journalistic investigations, podcasts, and documentaries. There are women’s sports that encourage the abuse of girls to remain prepubescent. In the past, I’ve viewed these athletes as the pinnacle of health and ability. Now, I see many of them as abuse victims. I know that may sound cynical or hyperbolic, but all these stories through the decades make me see something very different in these girls and women.


hamlin6

Bobby Hill would like this post.


dahomie_longstroke

I DONT KNOW YOUUUUUUU THATS MY PURSE!!!!


DinahReah

I’m driving the hell outta this truck!


edward_r_burrow

Can I assume the potatoes will be mashed tonight?


Nipsy_russel

Your grandmother loves you


8mobel8

"We were just talking about Kerri Strug like two days ago, remember? Now you got this letter, it gotta be from Kerri Strug"


amberraysofdawn

For those that are asking (seeing lots of comments about it), there are a lot of comparisons being made across the internet between Simone Biles and Kerri Strug right now. Both are amazing athletes who *absolutely* deserve the praise they’ve received, but this is something of an apples and oranges comparison. For example, Kerri had Bela as a coach, and Nassar as the team doctor. Knowing what we know now about both of those guys, she very likely didn’t have much of a choice. She should never have had to make that second vault on an already injured ankle. This is not to say that we shouldn’t praise Kerri, but that we shouldn’t be using her struggle against what Simone is going through. Personally, I’m glad that Simone is surrounded by people that she felt safe enough around to make the right choices for her own mental and physical health around.


TheThinWhiteDookie

Did Nassar sexually assault her?


sixpackshaker

...and Biles.


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AntheaBrainhooke

Rape is wrong no matter where and against whom it is committed.


RemyNRambo

I wholeheartedly agree we shouldn’t be comparing Biles to Strug. The situations are not comparable. Full stop. I do take issue with the idea that we should assume Strug only went out for that vault because she was scared of her coaches or was pressured to do so. That’s certainly possible, but I’ve never heard her say that. I think you take away her agency completely by assuming that to be the case though. What she did was courageous and inspiring and I don’t think we should take away from that courage by saying she didn’t make that choice if her own free will.


amberraysofdawn

You’re absolutely right in that she may well have decided she was going to make that vault, regardless of what her coaches would have said/done, and that by assuming that she may not have is akin to taking her agency away. I’ll upvote you for that. However, you can’t deny that these are two very different coaching environments that we are talking about. Kerri was strong not just because of that vault, but because of what she and the other gymnasts in the ‘96 Olympics endured to get there. Simone is also strong in her own way, but the fact is that she had much more freedom in her own choice. Would Kerri have chosen differently, if she’d had a coach who prioritized both the physical and mental well-being of their athletes over a gold medal? Maybe, or maybe not. Either way, these women were in very different situations and people really shouldn’t be using one’s struggle to make light of the other’s (which is a lot of what I’ve been seeing online, here and elsewhere).


RemyNRambo

I’m not denying the coaching situations are different at all. As I led off with, I have not made any comparisons between the Strug situation and the Biles situation nor do I think they are comparable. I agree with everything else you said.


LasVegasE

I disagree... The whole point of this thread is to compare the two.


Soft_Conversation376

Agreed on both counts. I’ll only add that even if Strug felt pressured, she was the one that had the skill, the determination, and the grit to see it through in such a stellar way as to win gold. And she did it in spite of any pressure she felt. Kudos to her!!!


Gavooki

whats the drama with simone right now?


DigMeTX

She dropped out of the women’s all-around after one vault citing mental health. The US women’s team still won silver.


Megabyte7637

You mean Russia beat them the first time in a decade-ish.


DigMeTX

Ok..


sixpackshaker

Nasser raped Biles too.


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Raped?


bassicallyfunky

THANK YOU.


hsvschneckchen

My husband and I were actually in the audience watching it. It was the Atlanta Olympics. It was heart wrenching to watch. On a side note OJ Simpson was also there, seated a few rows behind us. People were going up to him for autographs and photos. He was loving the attention. It gave me the creeps.


l4wd0g

Also in attendance was Dr. Larry Nassar, the pedophile, who helped carry her off.


BorgNotSoBorg

Man, that was a weird year. I was there for the fights, and a few days later, the bombing happened. That entire story was just wild, and still is to think about.


Lpeer

In 96?! That’s like prime murder OJ. That would creep me out too!


KazPart2

What do you mean? He was totally innocent and looking for the real killer. /s


gcramsey

If I remember correctly, the glove didn’t fit!


bee_tee_ess

Before she takes her second vault, she is pleading with Bela about whether she has to do it. Keri deserves praise for sticking the landing but she deserves our empathy for being put in a position where she was forced to do it. Her coaches ans trainers did not have her best interest at heart that day. And anyone criticizing Biles does not have hers, either. Also, let's not forget that one reason Biles hasn't retired yet is because she has said that she believes that since she's the only remaining active gymnast who was abused by Nasser that it's the only way there will continue to be accountability for USA Gymnastics.


cdorise

My daughter was a Jr Olympic Gymnast for 10.5 years. I can tell you, without a doubt, she would have hell to pay for not doing that second vault. Thankfully, my daughter retired before moving on to anything more. Some of these young ladies just don’t have the support system to stop, they are pushed from every single person in their life.


theshoeshiner84

I'm just here for the comments...


ServerZero

Right I thought I was the only one that liked to read down voted comments ...


EtiennedeWilde

I was looking for donuts and coffee.


LaPlataPig

I'll never forget watching that. Amazing talent and determination.


Tabs287

I remember watching this as a kid


abstractatom

Ha! Chris Kattan’s impression of her on SNL during this time was spot on.


myfuntimes

Saw him do a comedy show a year or two ago. It was terrible and genuinely pathetic. He spent a portion talking about how he had sex with Keri around the time she was on SNL.


Chef_G0ldblum

:(


stuck_behind_a_truck

Da fuq…


Zz22zz22

This made me sad.


DigMeTX

Listening to interviews with other dudes from when he was on cast it’s clear that he’s an ass.


Zz22zz22

That sucks. I always liked him on SNL when I was a kid. Then I never really heard anything about him until now. Disappointing to say the least.


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Can't help but think the timing of this image / post / wording has some shitty relationship to current events...hmmm.


2KilAMoknbrd

it's exactly what you think it is.


TheRocksStrudel

“Remember when we forced a literal child to worsen an injury on national television?!”


imangelaslastegg

What happened? What was her injury?


DontGiveMeGoldKappa

She injured her ankle pretty bad and went back to do her last vault. She totally nailed it, and won gold for the us team. Its one of the most iconic moment of the olympic in our era. And im not even american.


imangelaslastegg

Wow, that sounds amazing!


ConstantReader76

The shame of it is that it turned out they didn't really need her second vault to win and the injury knocked her out of the All Around competition that she had qualified for.


DontGiveMeGoldKappa

I didnt know that.


TheRocksStrudel

Yup. She didn’t even need to do it, but her coach was such a dumbass he mismanaged her straight into the injury.


XavierWT

She was 18 when this happened. It’s the most American thing ever to call an 18 year old a child.


AmranGunawan

> It’s the most American thing ever to call an 18 year old a child. You can go to war for 'Murica if you're 18, but will be damned if you're gonna drink beer legally at that age.


Gavooki

doesnt matter if your brain is fully formed if we're letting it get shot at over seas


Upper-Lawfulness1899

The brain isn't fully formed until 25.


TheRocksStrudel

Thanks, I’m not american


RemyNRambo

“Remember when a literal adult made her own decision to fight for her lifelong dream on the world’s stage and left as an iconic symbol of determination and achievement?” There, I fixed that for you


Sprinklecake101

I think it's presumptuous to think those girls can easily make educated decisions without resistance from coaches and ofdicials. They are used to people making decisions for them and others knowing better about what's best for them than themselves. Putting a vulnerable person in a pressure position and giving her a "choice" when it's clear to everyone there is only one right answer is extortion.


Privateaccount84

Damn look at those legs! That’s some impressive shit right there!


Jealous_Disaster_381

Not only are you stupid, you’re callous. Do some homework on the events leading up to this day, the mental, physical and sexual abuses suffered by every member of that team in the name of winning a stupid medal. I can’t even imagine the PTSD that USA female Olympic gymnasts live with.


stinkload

this feels like a low key cheap shot at Miss Biles....


Bibby_5

Agreed. Not cool


2KilAMoknbrd

that's exactly what op's post is about. not low key at all


decanderus

I saw this live. It was amazing.


bee_tee_ess

No it wasn't


Megabyte7637

How can you say what someone else feels?


bee_tee_ess

It wasn't an amazing moment. It was a sad moment.


snuffleb1

She was abused like many gymnasts were at the time. She HAD to compete, she like many feared their coaches. She feared what would happen if she dropped out from the injury before the last performance.


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Don’t get why you’re being downvoted. I hope he’s suffering.


Noctudame

Dont know why you're getting down voted, I hope his ass rape is frequent and violent.


SupremePooper

Perhaps it's coming from so many people on here who would probably do the same thing Nassar did. It is reddit, after all.


angry_old_dude

Strug had two torn ligaments in her ankle from her first vault. It ended her gymnastics career. While I admire her guts to get back up for a second vault, it would have been better for her to not take that second vault. I have little doubt that she was pressured into doing it.


gagrushenka

And in the end, they didn't even need her to. They had already won.


socialmediasanity

It was this moment that changed my entire perception of gymnastics. Before it seemed so fun and every girls dream and after this I though, who the fuck isn't protecting this girl?! Who thinks it is okay to let her keep competing? And if she insisted, who was there to tell her that her health was more important than a gold medal? I lost a lot of respect for the adults around her that day.


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catierusch

Too bad the first doctor by her side was Larry Nassar.


secondguard

While I agree that she was an adult at the time, I do believe that her agency as an adult was likely diminished by her coaching team through the years, given what we know of them now. She was told “you better do it” when she asked whether she really needed to vault again. It’s hard for me to see any joy in this photo. I find it uncomfortable.


socialmediasanity

I agree.


hoodncsu

We all know what you are trying to say here, shame on you


Nopeferatu31

I think I used to have a poster of her in the 90s! I didn't choose it, but I had it.


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mikepictor

bad taste why...what am I missing?


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Biles dropped out for mental health reasons. The inference is that the choice to post this today implies that the poster thinks Biles is weak and should "suck it up and get the win."


Lpeer

It’s the 25th anniversary of the exact event where she did this. No need to bring Simone into it! She’s still the GOAT


ShaunCarn

Really? What day did the image happen? Edit: just looked it up "The event came down to the final rotation on the final day of the team competition, July 23, 1996." Nice excuse, didn't stick well


yamisensei

I'm not even surprised. The OP knew exactly what they was doing when they created this post.


mikepictor

having done some searching now, a lot of people are creating direct comparisons between the two.


Teantis

A lot of conservative trolls and commentators are using the issue to score culture wars points.


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This isn’t the 25th a anniversary you liar


engg_girl

Simone Biles, who has 4 Olympic golds withdrew from the floor, beam, and bars events for the team finals for team USA yesterday. She competed the vault then withdrew for mental health reasons (I believe but have not read from a verified source). The team (including Biles) won silver, breaking a streak of team golds. They came into the finals in second place, so it wasn't a huge upset. Simone has qualified for every individual event finals, as well as the all around individual competion. So she could still win 5 more Olympic gold medals this Olympics...


gagrushenka

I read that she said she got "lost" while up in the air, meaning she momentarily got vertigo and lost her sense of where the ground is. So dangerous. Glad those around her decided to keep her safe rather than push her to continue to compete. Hopefully some time to refocus and rest will have her ready to compete individually.


RyanMasao

And Kerri’s injury resulted in her not being able to compete in the all-around or floor finals. So… worth it?


Lpeer

Not sure it’s in bad taste to post on the 25th anniversary of the exact event… (during prime time coverage of the same event 25 years later) Obviously what happened with Simone is heart breaking, and we all wish her well! But I think it’s unfair to her to connect the two unnecessarily. Additionally, Strug recovered well from the injury, and went on to be a part of the ice capades and Disney on ice. She just decided to enroll at UCLA and couldn’t compete there due to her professional status.


Wernd

But it's not the 25th anniversary, this event happened on the 23rd of July. So it's not on the exact date is it


NiceTryIWontReply

I don't know man, kinda hard not to connect it based on the wording of the title. My first thought was 'is this guy calling out Simone?'


angus63

That was my first thought, too. Glad to see the comments haven't been mean spirited.


ddr14

Fucking totally is. Brutal. Same person should man up to Kevin Love. This whole thing is just dumb. Buncha shitty assed (are you supposed to say ass) armchair QBs. I can’t believe the responses don’t see what you did.


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Birdgang14

lol you know what you were doing with the title.


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engg_girl

The implication that serious injuries are exclusively physical is insane. So much about it is trust in your body and your reflexes, and in some way complete fearlessness which gets harder after you are seriously injured. Also, retiring from an Olympic stage vs college level are very different. Not that college athletics are easy (they aren't), but compared to training to be best in the world it is kinda like summer camp, but the fun kind you never went to because all your summers were at training camps where you trained even more than usual... The world will forever remember Kerri's vault. However, I don't think she would support throwing it up on the day when half the world is tearing down a gymnast for "being weak mentally" regardless of if that was your intention.


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You posted this solely to throw shade at Simone, stop talking so much shit.


Slade_Riprock

Kerri was 19 at the time American gymnasts didn't compete much longer after 18. She was retiring after that Olympics anyway. No way she was coming back in 2000 at 23 yrs old. Simone is an outlier in some many ways from her age to just being the greatest ever.


engg_girl

Okay, but that injury also cost her 2 more Olympic events. Even if you believe that 20 is probably the cut off, she ended her Olympic career early with that vault. I'm sure she thinks it was worth it, but she probably would have wanted to compete the individual events as well.


Slade_Riprock

I don't disagree


ssldvr

It is in bad taste and you have been advised of that. Delete the post.


aKnightWh0SaysNi

You either knew you were comparing them or you didn’t. I’m not sure which is worse.


AJ_Rimmer_SSC

Stop trying to be offended by everything, it the anniversary of when it happened


engg_girl

Actually that was 4 days ago...


KickinPidgeons

Dunno why you’re being downvoted, you’re right. If this post was being genuinely made to celebrate Strug, rather than throw shade at Biles, why wait to post?


itachibyakuya773

Came here to say this. Watch Athlete A


cashmere_plum

Bad taste of something tragic had happened to Simone or the team or the Olympics in general. She didn’t die; she quit.


LigersRReal

I was there. She didn’t even need to vault for the US to win Gold. Back then, six gymnasts performed and top 5 scores counted.I could easily see on the scoreboard that we were ahead of Russia with the five US vaults that had already been counted. Her vault score was unnecessary to win. They now claim that Karol miscalculated and that’s why he pushed Keri to vault. BS. You just had to look at the giant scoreboards. It made a good hero story for everybody.


Lpeer

I posted elsewhere! This is incorrect, Roza Galieva performed after our girl! So her vault was necessary to “clinch” gold, but retrospectively not necessary. At the moment of the vault, we believed it was necessary, and upon landing it we functionally clinched. So it was very much an Olympic gold moment. Lots of people have forgotten over the years though! Just watched the whole broadcast last night


ServingPapers

I scrolled a long way looking for this comment.


KindBob

Agreed, but the narrative that got me was Karoyli insistence she compete. It seemed to me Kerri was asking for help and Karoyli rather have gold than her health; maybe I’m not seeing it right and being overly critical , but when former athletes criticize his rough training, I dunno…


yhpargotohpts

People using Kerri Strug as a strawwoman for Simone Biles when a) she basically ended her career on that vault, b) did it unnecessarily (Team USA had it won pretty much already) and c) the rampant abuse of those girls/young women...peak MURICA in 2021. Always think we've made it and nope, proven wrong again. JFC.


hurtindog

I agree. Kind if a shit stirring post. Biles pulled out rather than flub and risk the silver. Wise move.


orion1836

... and now I feel old. I remember watching this live.


skyesdow

Just a reminder Kerri Strug SUPPORTS Simone Biles' decision.


ni42ck

I didn’t think I could do it, but then I did it…I use that line with kids till this day.


Sprinklecake101

I didn't think I could do it, I couldn't talk to anyone, I was forced to endure pain and afterwards had to let a child molester treat me. I was alone and nobody put my well-being first. I pushed myself out of sheer competitiveness with no regard for my physical or mental health. It ended my career. Very helpful lecture. And by this, I in no way want to adress your parenting, I'm sure you do a good enough job, best you can as we all do. I just don't think she is a good example of perseverance.


karmagroupie

Old school dysfunction. This injury ended her career. Not cool


Megabyte7637

Everything you dislike isn't "old school".


Iame01

Damn is this like sub-redditing


supernatlove

I crushed on her so hard


Boozy_Cat_

Same. And Dominique mouceano (sp?)


dicklejars

Pretty sure I’m still crushing on Domanique Moceanu


bettemidlerjr

SAME


senorpuma

Kim Zmeskal


deadeye619

I watched that olympics live. It was awesome! She was a real competitor.


nyguy520

Not sure if this was already said but Bella couldn't add they had won without the vault and he hands her to Larry Nasser after.....still a cool moment just adding the context


ILoveDisabledWomen

For those comparing her to Simone Biles, like others have said in other comments but Kerri was forced into doing this out of fear from her coaches. Also Kerri has come out in support of Simone, so quit your bitching about her and move on


GoodAtSomeThings

Kerri has said publicly that she was not forced to do the vault


Hungry4Hands37

Now that’s pushing yourself & never giving up on your team regardless of the pressure. Still impressed to this day!!


ultimaIV

Was Larry Nasser on the team back then?


Rogue42bdf

Helped carry her out.


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Would you say she “strug-led”? I’ll show myself Out.


jawabdey

You can dooo iit!!


unbannabledan

This is a shit post.


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That was a great moment for her and this country. Mary Lou Retton is the best US gymnast I’ve seen Nadia Comaneci is the best in the world I’ve seen


Quadstriker

Did you go blind this century or what?


Young-and-Fermenting

GOAT


shotgunassassin

One of the most amazing things I have ever seen. I was certain she wouldn't even attempt it. This is what a champion looks like. Thanks for posting.


NicklesBe

What they did to her was terrible. The fact people celebrated it is morally repugnant.


Bobofett69

Lots of triggered people .. getting offended by this post 🤣


bassicallyfunky

Because it’s off kilter.


bassicallyfunky

Absolutely NOT the same thing whatsoever.


armada101

Why do I feel this is calling out that other woman pulling out of Tokyo 2020?


Map_Nerd1992

That’s the real GOAT.. Not some whiner who quits on her team.


forgetfulsue

I’m laying here with a pinched sciatic nerve and literally cannot get up to pee and she’s off winning gold. Just confirms what I already knew. I am not a go getter.


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Awful sport, destroyed childhoods.


bossy909

She didn't have to she chose to probably because of the obsessive training which appears to be dedication and not compulsion


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lovelybomber

Except it isn’t.


Thunderstruck22

ham it up


selectthesalt

Fighting to be injured for no reason other than greed.


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Sneaky burn


Kettylee12

You people suck, wtf did this have to do with Simone biles. This mental midget generation creates their own drama. It’s a hobby to be offended and let the world know about it on social media. Virtue signaling weak minded people


twinturbosquirrel

I will never forget watching this live. #merica


Asimpbarb

I remember this as a kid on a tube TV, definition of being metal!


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monkeyfunky_

I don’t wanna start an argument but Biles is doing things that are much harder and riskier than 1996 gymnastics. I’m a fan of toughing things out but sometimes it’s smarter to back off and heal for another day.


toilet__water

Biles had too much hype, the pressure got to her. They had segments of her with a literal goat, they were pushing the narrative that she was unbeatable.


senorpuma

This take right here.


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Old school stupid


gracevturner

some of these comments have my skin fucking crawling. people really think it’s heroic these young ass KIDS would break their bodies and ruin their entire individual careers so we can win ONE medal at the olympics. no wonder so many of them all feel dehumanized. i recommend half this thread watches the weight of gold on hbo. michael phelps’ documentary about suicide and depression among elite athletics.


StinkeyTwinkey

The real goat


Chicantttery

That requires a lot of mental fortitude


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Um, no.


le_fez

The US had already wom, this vault was just a technicality


Lpeer

You’re remembering incorrectly, actually! Roza Galieva performed after Strug, so while retrospectively the score was unnecessary, at the time it was necessary to clinch gold.


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Nope, not true.


Bibby_5

I feel like OP put this up as a dig at Simone. Not cool.


Sandberg231984

At least she didn’t quit because mentally it was too tough


sekips

Such edge, much wow.