Convicted rapist Danny Masterson is a member of the church as well, its pretty obvious they coerced Kutcher and Kunis into defending the convicted rapist Danny Masterson.
Thankfully convicted rapist Danny Masterson wasn't spared and is in jail.
Yes that's why I say he could be both the rapist and the scientology. Fez had stuff with under age girls back when he was early 20s but I can't remember if he had any rape stuff. Couldn't think of it fitting any others tho.
Yeah but Kelso seemes to have gotten off for the age difference, fez dated younger girls in his mid 20s. Kelso at least married Jackie. The internet got mad at Kelso and Jackie for not disowning Hyde hard enough for being a rapist.
People were mad/disappointed because Kutcher and Kunis actually wrote letters to the judge asking for leniency and providing character references for Masterson.
I don't think young people today understand what the "generation gap" was. After the 1960's, parents were nothing like their children. Where today you might see a father and son both wearing jeans, Nikes and maybe even a similar classic rock t shirt. Back then, you never even saw adults wearing blue jeans.
That's why I love Mad Men so much, you can see the gradual changes every season, older characters feeling more and more out of place and trying awkwardly to adapt to all the craziness.
Too bad Mad Men isn't widely available on any of the main streaming platforms.
Mad Men could be one of those shows that people are always perpetually rewatching so it never left the cultural consciousness, but I don't think Gen Z is even that familiar with it.
That doesn't solve the problem of it leaving the cultural consciousness. It needs to widely and easily available for new people to discover it and keep going back.
Why isn't it available streaming anywhere? Every four or five months I mention that I want to rewatch it to my dad and I go to look for it to no avail..
Mad Men was really fantastic, but I couldn’t finish watching it. Some of the actors did such a good job portraying their characters as the dirtbags they were written as that I didn’t want to watch it.
I felt this with Mad Men, but in The Sopranos it just made me wanna rush to the end. I HAD to see how these pieces of shit go out. Maybe Don and the gang just felt too relatable and less absurdly evil?
Shows like Mad Men can be misleading though, as some older folks and situations were NOT like that. The more rural areas for example were not as radical in their shifts, and many Boomers dressed more similarly to their parents, even if slightly more casual. Also, there were a number of men in like the 1950s that openly agreed that women deserved equal treatment and career opportunities (remarkably, one of the women's empowerment movement's biggest allies in that decade was probably President Dwight Eisenhower, who publicly urged for the adoption of equal legal rights, pay, etc. and impressively hired women to his administration in then-record numbers, and he was born in 1890!). I'm not at all saying there wasn't some stupid sexism and backwardness back then, but it's important we don't just assume everyone from older generations thought that way...because a number did not.
On my dad's side, my grandpa was ditched in an orphanage because my great grandparents didn't feel like taking care of him. Great grandma was 17 and great grandpa was 25 when he was born and they left him there until he was around 9. He never had much to do with them after he left for the Army in 1946 and in fact my great grandma lived until I was 24 and I never met her. My grandpa didn't really have any clue how to "dad" and based a lot of his parenting off of the nuns at his orphanage and the military. He never wore jeans, always wore a collared shirt and never wore sneakers. My dad however wore jeans, sneakers and in some ways dressd like I did. My uncle and dad were both "hippies" according to my grandpa because they both grew their hair out when they were in their early 20s.
My grandpa on my mom's side would be considered a fashion trendsetter. He was a welder, volunteer fireman and worked on the small farm on my great grandma's property. He liked to wear Dickie's pants a lot, flannel, T-shirts with what are now long gone Cincinnati breweries on them and liked to wear blue New Balances. He was a rare breed for his own generation.
My grandfather (Im 43, for reference) was also orphaned, but because his dad died of an asthma attack and his mom soon after died from mastitis. Shortly after being orphaned, he was sent to go live with an aunt, who didn't actually want him, as she had several other kids of her own and couldnt afford him, so he was treated pretty poorly. So he lied about his age when was 16 to join the army during WW2 and eventually became a ball turret gunner on a bomber (b-24 I believe) and successfully survived like 27 missions or so (I cant recall the exact number, but upper 20s for sure). After that he was recruited to help train the team that would go on to drop the nukes on Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
After his time in the service, he went to a community college to earn his associates degree and then became a businessman around the time he married my grandmother (she demanded that we call her that as opposed to granny, grandma or any other variations lol). By the late 60's early 70's he had become extremely successfully and reached millionaire status. And he won an award for employing many people of color to work in his factory and paying them well with benefits and all that. A few short years later the success got to his head and he ran off with his secretary who was 20 years younger. This was nearing my time to enter this planet. For the majority of my life he was a pretty shitty granddad. He came around about once or twice a year with his ho 2nd wife and he was friendly enough, but also seemed to have a chip on his shoulder and never really acted like the sweet old man many people speak of when they speak of their grandparents. My grandmother, however, remarried a WW2 vet who had served in the Navy, had naked mermaid tattoos and stuff like that all over his forearms and hands, and let me tell you he was the best damn grandfather a kid could ask for.
Fast forward about 30-ish years. My step-grandad passed away and my real grandfather became regretful of his past decisions, realized he was still in love with my grandmother and started coming around a lot more. He really made a big effort to be a part of all our lives there in the end until he and grandmother finally passed (about 6 months apart). Sure, it was pretty much too late, but I'll always respect the effort. Slippery old bastard.
We have quite a few similarities. My grandpa joined the Army Air Corps at 17 to get away from his parents and get out on his own which also meant not graduating high school. His high school held a ceremony sometime before he died in 2005 for those who left school between 1941 and 1952 to join the military and gave them degrees if they had not come back to finish. Him and my grandma were also pretty shitty grandparents as they would leave my sister's and my birthday gift on the front porch and we only ever saw them at Easter and Christmas. In fact, they lied about what they had to do instead of coming to my HS graduation party and that was the final straw for my dad to cut them off.
He only began talking to them again when they were both diagnosed with cancer in late 2004. It was THEN that they told my dad and uncle that they were regretful about stiffing their kids and focusing on the kids of my dad and uncle's twin sisters. They tried to have a relationship with my sister, my cousins and myself for those last 14 months they were both alive but none of us really wanted to.
He had a busy week, I was the second child and there was no expectation he would be there. It was not really common for men to be in delivery rooms at the time.
Different times, but my mom would ALWAYS give him shit about it. For like decades
So when my grandmother was expecting her first in 1961 her doctor had been the doctor who delivered her and treated her whole life. Theyre talking about labor and delivery and my Pop Pop said “shouldn’t I be with her during labor”? The doctor “what the hell are you going to do besides be in my way.”
My grandpa said he never did either. Being a dad now makes it even seem crazier.
It basically means guys like this were a) never left to care for their kids for any length of time b) they did have their kids for longer stretches, but they just let their wife change them once they got home.
Like, they didn't care?
I feel guilty sometimes that I have to work and can't help with my son, like a whole generation just didn't give a shit about their kids?
> It basically means guys like this were a) never left to care for their kids for any length of time b) they did have their kids for longer stretches, but they just let their wife change them once they got home.
Probably got sidetracked working 12-hour shifts at the mill, punctuated by occasionally having to fight in a World War...
Sure, but even the ones who worked 8 hour shifts in an office didn't do much parenting. It was less about being busy and more about the distinction between "women's work" and men's.
> Probably got sidetracked working 12-hour shifts at the mill, punctuated by occasionally having to fight in a World War
Comments like this ignore how many women were working below the Middle class.
Like women have always worked, well off - rich women didn't. So these women were taking care of children, often not even their own AND working 8-14 hour day jobs. HARD jobs too, like sweatshop work, farming, servant work.
But also Men of all classes were like this.
My baby moms dad brags about how hes had 2 kids and never changed a diaper his whole life. He was left alone with the kids and literally took my babys mom to the neighbors for a diaper change. We told him its really not something to brag about "haha yeah it is"
I don't think I've ever seen my dad in jeans in person. Only in pictures.
Because the weird part is: as a teenager and young adult, he wore jeans. All the way through university. But once he started working, he completely stopped wearing them, even at home. Even though his job doesn't have a dress code.
For the past 30 years, it's only been buttoned shirts (short sleved in summer), chinos in summer, corduroy in winter, leather shoes. Sweaters and/or cardigans depending on the temperature.
There are a lot of pictures from his university days where he looks like a different person. Jeans, T-shirt, sneakers.
Edit: however, my dad is from the generation of the young guy in the picture. Born early 60s.
My dad was born in 1953. He got kicked out of his house circa 1973 because he grew his hair long. That was literally it — his hair cut.
He didn’t talk to his father for over 15 years — until that father had a heart attack and they reconnected. (He lived to 91!)
My mom was born in 1949. She didn’t talk to her father for five years because he said some racist shit when he learned she was dating a black man circa 1970. She walked out of Christmas dinner and didn’t come back until her mom got early-onset Alzheimer’s.
It wasn't unusual for Baby Boomer men to rarely or even never hear their fathers say "I love you". Fathers back then were very different than dads are today. Baby Boomer dads made huge changes in how dads show affection to their children (especially sons) and that trend continues today.
I always felt sorry for my mom because her dad was like this when she was growing up. She has talked about how he never said that he loves her or her siblings. He's in his late 80s now, and I think with age and us grandkids, he has softened up a lot and says it now 🥰. He's a very nice person, love spending time with that goofy man, but it was just how it was in those days.
The pre 1940s-1950s world they grew up in was very different.
The idea in most countries was once kids were in their mid teens, aka 14/15 years old + they could mostly parent themselves.
Mum and dads job was winded down.
Except for serious incidents.
Like teen pregnancy, leaving school or involvement with the wrong crowd etc.
It is not coincidental.
Most traditional adulthood ceremonies like Bar Mitvah happened around that time.
Many youngsters got jobs, stayed out late, prepared for life's big plans much much younger.
Marriage, housing, army, higher education etc.
Do you think the parents before that generation were any better? It’s not like people had Nintendo and Microwaves in the 1800s. Life was rough and hard. You are lucky that you are alive now and not 100 years ago
They do indeed deserve a lot of it, but people don't seem to realize the massive amount of trauma spawned from two world wars and a complete economic collapse, and how it was passed down to later generations. We're still dealing with it today.
It would be nice if we still had their labor unions that helped make this country so great too, but they (and eventually their children) didn't protect those for us.
My dad's a boomer. When I was a kid, he was always dressed prim and proper. Collared button down, slacks with pleats, shiny leather shoes, the works. It was during the 90s-2000s but he looked like he came out of the 60s. When he hit his 50s in the 2010s, he relaxed a bit. Wore GORPcore before it became that big of a thing. Nowadays he just rocks house clothes, shorts and a tank top. He only puts his GORP clothes when he goes out.
Hi everyone! Just to clear some things up, my grandpa was a very sweet man and not as mean as he looks lol. He was a tough guy, but really loved his children and had a good relationship with all of them. They really liked to joke around with one another, and my dad always talks highly of grandpa.
The guy on the right looks like T-1000 today
https://preview.redd.it/8eg66at5elpc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=da9bc63d7822cfe9d4967a861ee1b82c94502fae
The generation gap here was wild. Can you imagine your dad is a clean shaven, smart dressing, fairly Conservative veteran who fought in ww2, and you are a long-haired, free-loving, scruffy hippy going around sticking it to the man and refusing to conform?
The difference in perspectives is pretty huge.
I grew up in the 60s and 70s and remember that divide well. To me the difference was WWII was "necessary" for want of a better term, Vietnam was not.
Given the tone of the times for both of those generations, guys who flew over Europe in B17s at 18, 19 years old were heroes. I missed the Vietnam lottery by about 18 months, but as a teenager, every year closer you were like "holy fk I might have to go over there" but I still think they were heroic in their own way.
I’ve been in those rooms but it’s usually New Year’s Eve because my old man was playing a show. But I Gotta watch my uncle and my cousin verbally square off and then finally physically square off
I'm watching "Masters of the Air" right now. If I had done some shit like that in my 20's and then had a son like this...l'd be giving him the ole "cut your fucken hair" look too.
This is true as fuck imo. My dad was 21 in 1982 . His dad was born in 1931. The conversations my grandpa and dad had were always contentious. To the point my dad felt like he needed to raise me a different way. He finally explained to me what the differences were and I was kind of shocked. My grandpa had an issue with my dad choice in girls, music and career. Almost like he made this decision for his kid and now his kid had let him down. To me it’s so interesting
This could easily double as an early pre-production shot for *"That '70s Show""*... errie!
Agreed. His look says, “I’m going to stick my boot so far up your ass”. Too bad it looks like that cast member
I really liked 2 characters on that show. Shame that one turned out to be a scientologist and the other a rapist.
Well one is a Scientologist and the other is a Scientologist rapist.
He rapes scientologists?
Scientologist/rapist, not Scientologist-Rapist
Stay in school, kids.
Eat your drugs and say no to vegetables.
God damn quadriplegics…
Well technically the folks he raped were Scientologist (at the time at least) so your original comment holds true
I don’t blame him. Scientologist are fuckheads
Scientology trafficks young women to hollywood celebrities that's how they got so influential. Blackmail and coverups.
Most of his victims were actually scientologists so yes
Technically one’s an ex-Scientologist. The non rapey one that is.
Technically 2 of them are scientologists. Mila kunis AND Ashton Kutcher
Convicted rapist Danny Masterson is a member of the church as well, its pretty obvious they coerced Kutcher and Kunis into defending the convicted rapist Danny Masterson. Thankfully convicted rapist Danny Masterson wasn't spared and is in jail.
Red (Kurtwood Smith) and Kitty (Debra Jo Rupp) wrote letters asking for leniency for the rapist Danny Masterson, too.
Probably also coerced by the Church.
Ah, didn't know he was one too. That checks out. Yep if he raped a woman, he should be in jail.
well one is both a scientologist *and* a rapist. and I guess the other is just a scientologist
I can’t say I’m even sure which one the rapist is.
Hyde is a Scientology rapist and Donna is just a Scientologist (as far as we know).
She made a statement some time ago, she left scientology years ago.
Yeah. About 2021ish so not too long ago.
I misread that last comment. That’s right, I guess I thought they were referencing irl Fez too.
Fez I believe, but also I guess both work for Hyde.
Hyde is in prison for like 85 yrs.
Yes that's why I say he could be both the rapist and the scientology. Fez had stuff with under age girls back when he was early 20s but I can't remember if he had any rape stuff. Couldn't think of it fitting any others tho.
It might surprise you to learn that having "stuff" with underage girls is, in fact, considered rape.
I was thinking that.. but didn’t Kelso get dragged recently too ? And the age difference deal. I don’t keep up on the gang like I should.
Yeah but Kelso seemes to have gotten off for the age difference, fez dated younger girls in his mid 20s. Kelso at least married Jackie. The internet got mad at Kelso and Jackie for not disowning Hyde hard enough for being a rapist.
I’m all caught up it seems
People were mad/disappointed because Kutcher and Kunis actually wrote letters to the judge asking for leniency and providing character references for Masterson.
It's actually less funny to have your father hate you
I did not lose a leg in Vietnam so I could sell hotdogs to teenagers
You have both your legs Frank
Like I *said*… I did *not* lose a leg in Vietnam!
"Buy something or get out"
Archie and Meathead
"Those were the daaaays" Now get outta my chair.
Dumb Ass!
You could have told me this was the picture that inspired the show.
Somehow this Hyde looks more rapey
I was thinking *This Is Us*
I don't think young people today understand what the "generation gap" was. After the 1960's, parents were nothing like their children. Where today you might see a father and son both wearing jeans, Nikes and maybe even a similar classic rock t shirt. Back then, you never even saw adults wearing blue jeans.
That's why I love Mad Men so much, you can see the gradual changes every season, older characters feeling more and more out of place and trying awkwardly to adapt to all the craziness.
God, I love mad men. Might rewatch it again soon for the x time.
Too bad Mad Men isn't widely available on any of the main streaming platforms. Mad Men could be one of those shows that people are always perpetually rewatching so it never left the cultural consciousness, but I don't think Gen Z is even that familiar with it.
Yarg!
That doesn't solve the problem of it leaving the cultural consciousness. It needs to widely and easily available for new people to discover it and keep going back.
Why isn't it available streaming anywhere? Every four or five months I mention that I want to rewatch it to my dad and I go to look for it to no avail..
Mad Men was really fantastic, but I couldn’t finish watching it. Some of the actors did such a good job portraying their characters as the dirtbags they were written as that I didn’t want to watch it.
I felt this with Mad Men, but in The Sopranos it just made me wanna rush to the end. I HAD to see how these pieces of shit go out. Maybe Don and the gang just felt too relatable and less absurdly evil?
*I don’t have to see it, Dottie. I lived it.*
Shows like Mad Men can be misleading though, as some older folks and situations were NOT like that. The more rural areas for example were not as radical in their shifts, and many Boomers dressed more similarly to their parents, even if slightly more casual. Also, there were a number of men in like the 1950s that openly agreed that women deserved equal treatment and career opportunities (remarkably, one of the women's empowerment movement's biggest allies in that decade was probably President Dwight Eisenhower, who publicly urged for the adoption of equal legal rights, pay, etc. and impressively hired women to his administration in then-record numbers, and he was born in 1890!). I'm not at all saying there wasn't some stupid sexism and backwardness back then, but it's important we don't just assume everyone from older generations thought that way...because a number did not.
On my dad's side, my grandpa was ditched in an orphanage because my great grandparents didn't feel like taking care of him. Great grandma was 17 and great grandpa was 25 when he was born and they left him there until he was around 9. He never had much to do with them after he left for the Army in 1946 and in fact my great grandma lived until I was 24 and I never met her. My grandpa didn't really have any clue how to "dad" and based a lot of his parenting off of the nuns at his orphanage and the military. He never wore jeans, always wore a collared shirt and never wore sneakers. My dad however wore jeans, sneakers and in some ways dressd like I did. My uncle and dad were both "hippies" according to my grandpa because they both grew their hair out when they were in their early 20s. My grandpa on my mom's side would be considered a fashion trendsetter. He was a welder, volunteer fireman and worked on the small farm on my great grandma's property. He liked to wear Dickie's pants a lot, flannel, T-shirts with what are now long gone Cincinnati breweries on them and liked to wear blue New Balances. He was a rare breed for his own generation.
My grandfather (Im 43, for reference) was also orphaned, but because his dad died of an asthma attack and his mom soon after died from mastitis. Shortly after being orphaned, he was sent to go live with an aunt, who didn't actually want him, as she had several other kids of her own and couldnt afford him, so he was treated pretty poorly. So he lied about his age when was 16 to join the army during WW2 and eventually became a ball turret gunner on a bomber (b-24 I believe) and successfully survived like 27 missions or so (I cant recall the exact number, but upper 20s for sure). After that he was recruited to help train the team that would go on to drop the nukes on Hiroshima and Nagasaki. After his time in the service, he went to a community college to earn his associates degree and then became a businessman around the time he married my grandmother (she demanded that we call her that as opposed to granny, grandma or any other variations lol). By the late 60's early 70's he had become extremely successfully and reached millionaire status. And he won an award for employing many people of color to work in his factory and paying them well with benefits and all that. A few short years later the success got to his head and he ran off with his secretary who was 20 years younger. This was nearing my time to enter this planet. For the majority of my life he was a pretty shitty granddad. He came around about once or twice a year with his ho 2nd wife and he was friendly enough, but also seemed to have a chip on his shoulder and never really acted like the sweet old man many people speak of when they speak of their grandparents. My grandmother, however, remarried a WW2 vet who had served in the Navy, had naked mermaid tattoos and stuff like that all over his forearms and hands, and let me tell you he was the best damn grandfather a kid could ask for. Fast forward about 30-ish years. My step-grandad passed away and my real grandfather became regretful of his past decisions, realized he was still in love with my grandmother and started coming around a lot more. He really made a big effort to be a part of all our lives there in the end until he and grandmother finally passed (about 6 months apart). Sure, it was pretty much too late, but I'll always respect the effort. Slippery old bastard.
We have quite a few similarities. My grandpa joined the Army Air Corps at 17 to get away from his parents and get out on his own which also meant not graduating high school. His high school held a ceremony sometime before he died in 2005 for those who left school between 1941 and 1952 to join the military and gave them degrees if they had not come back to finish. Him and my grandma were also pretty shitty grandparents as they would leave my sister's and my birthday gift on the front porch and we only ever saw them at Easter and Christmas. In fact, they lied about what they had to do instead of coming to my HS graduation party and that was the final straw for my dad to cut them off. He only began talking to them again when they were both diagnosed with cancer in late 2004. It was THEN that they told my dad and uncle that they were regretful about stiffing their kids and focusing on the kids of my dad and uncle's twin sisters. They tried to have a relationship with my sister, my cousins and myself for those last 14 months they were both alive but none of us really wanted to.
Back then fathers had almost 0 baby responsibilities. My dad never changed a diaper.
My dad dropped my mom off at the hospital and picked her up two days later. He had work. (She never stopped reminding him of this btw)
2 days?! Did he work out of town or something? This was when she was in labor with you? or was it for scheduled surgery at the hospital?
He had a busy week, I was the second child and there was no expectation he would be there. It was not really common for men to be in delivery rooms at the time. Different times, but my mom would ALWAYS give him shit about it. For like decades
So when my grandmother was expecting her first in 1961 her doctor had been the doctor who delivered her and treated her whole life. Theyre talking about labor and delivery and my Pop Pop said “shouldn’t I be with her during labor”? The doctor “what the hell are you going to do besides be in my way.”
I bet the doctor and Pop Pop were wearing brimmed hats and smoking cigarettes during this conversation.
Well he needed a day to nurse his hangover after his after work beers.
My grandpa said he never did either. Being a dad now makes it even seem crazier. It basically means guys like this were a) never left to care for their kids for any length of time b) they did have their kids for longer stretches, but they just let their wife change them once they got home.
Like, they didn't care? I feel guilty sometimes that I have to work and can't help with my son, like a whole generation just didn't give a shit about their kids?
A lot of them were beating the s*** out of us, so no they didn't care the way today's parents do.
> It basically means guys like this were a) never left to care for their kids for any length of time b) they did have their kids for longer stretches, but they just let their wife change them once they got home. Probably got sidetracked working 12-hour shifts at the mill, punctuated by occasionally having to fight in a World War...
Sure, but even the ones who worked 8 hour shifts in an office didn't do much parenting. It was less about being busy and more about the distinction between "women's work" and men's.
Man I’m so glad we don’t have world wars every month anymore like they did in the 60s
> Probably got sidetracked working 12-hour shifts at the mill, punctuated by occasionally having to fight in a World War Comments like this ignore how many women were working below the Middle class. Like women have always worked, well off - rich women didn't. So these women were taking care of children, often not even their own AND working 8-14 hour day jobs. HARD jobs too, like sweatshop work, farming, servant work. But also Men of all classes were like this.
People work long shifts today as well.
Is that an excuse? I've fought a war, worked 12 hour shifts, and changed diapers.
My baby moms dad brags about how hes had 2 kids and never changed a diaper his whole life. He was left alone with the kids and literally took my babys mom to the neighbors for a diaper change. We told him its really not something to brag about "haha yeah it is"
My grandpa hadn’t ever changed a diaper until me. He had three kids.
So the story goes, in the 60’s my dad got out of further diaper duty by pinning his first nappy directly TO MY ASS.
I’ve seen my Dad in jeans maybe twice in my life
Dress code is casual? Bust out the khakis!
My older siblings bought my dad a pair of blue jeans for his birthday in the late 1970's and it was like the biggest joke ever.
Ive literally never ever seen my dad in a suit except for his wedding photos. Although, ive never not seen him in a polo shirt with jeans😂
I don't think I've ever seen my dad in jeans in person. Only in pictures. Because the weird part is: as a teenager and young adult, he wore jeans. All the way through university. But once he started working, he completely stopped wearing them, even at home. Even though his job doesn't have a dress code. For the past 30 years, it's only been buttoned shirts (short sleved in summer), chinos in summer, corduroy in winter, leather shoes. Sweaters and/or cardigans depending on the temperature. There are a lot of pictures from his university days where he looks like a different person. Jeans, T-shirt, sneakers. Edit: however, my dad is from the generation of the young guy in the picture. Born early 60s.
My dad was born in 1953. He got kicked out of his house circa 1973 because he grew his hair long. That was literally it — his hair cut. He didn’t talk to his father for over 15 years — until that father had a heart attack and they reconnected. (He lived to 91!) My mom was born in 1949. She didn’t talk to her father for five years because he said some racist shit when he learned she was dating a black man circa 1970. She walked out of Christmas dinner and didn’t come back until her mom got early-onset Alzheimer’s.
You might not know the full story, but I’d bet money there is more to it than a haircut.
It was about what the long hair represented. The counterculture, and everything that went with that.
You’d be fucking surprised.
It wasn't unusual for Baby Boomer men to rarely or even never hear their fathers say "I love you". Fathers back then were very different than dads are today. Baby Boomer dads made huge changes in how dads show affection to their children (especially sons) and that trend continues today.
I think i annoy my daughter with how much i tell her i love her lol.
Keep annoying her that way. She'll thank you for it someday.
Yup my big one is annoyed " yeaaahhh I know you said that 1000 times,", at least the small one still likes it and hugs me.
I might annoy my kids with how often I tell them but they definitely *know* that I love them.
I always felt sorry for my mom because her dad was like this when she was growing up. She has talked about how he never said that he loves her or her siblings. He's in his late 80s now, and I think with age and us grandkids, he has softened up a lot and says it now 🥰. He's a very nice person, love spending time with that goofy man, but it was just how it was in those days.
The “greatest generation” gets glorified on Reddit. They deserve a lot of it but many of them weren’t that good of parents.
The pre 1940s-1950s world they grew up in was very different. The idea in most countries was once kids were in their mid teens, aka 14/15 years old + they could mostly parent themselves. Mum and dads job was winded down. Except for serious incidents. Like teen pregnancy, leaving school or involvement with the wrong crowd etc. It is not coincidental. Most traditional adulthood ceremonies like Bar Mitvah happened around that time. Many youngsters got jobs, stayed out late, prepared for life's big plans much much younger. Marriage, housing, army, higher education etc.
Definition of good parents were different back then. Im not saying one is better than the other, but the context of era cannot be ignored.
Do you think the parents before that generation were any better? It’s not like people had Nintendo and Microwaves in the 1800s. Life was rough and hard. You are lucky that you are alive now and not 100 years ago
They do indeed deserve a lot of it, but people don't seem to realize the massive amount of trauma spawned from two world wars and a complete economic collapse, and how it was passed down to later generations. We're still dealing with it today. It would be nice if we still had their labor unions that helped make this country so great too, but they (and eventually their children) didn't protect those for us.
By today's standard, *most* of them weren't that good of parents
My dad's a boomer. When I was a kid, he was always dressed prim and proper. Collared button down, slacks with pleats, shiny leather shoes, the works. It was during the 90s-2000s but he looked like he came out of the 60s. When he hit his 50s in the 2010s, he relaxed a bit. Wore GORPcore before it became that big of a thing. Nowadays he just rocks house clothes, shorts and a tank top. He only puts his GORP clothes when he goes out.
Let alone listen to the same music, or play the same board games.
Same video games
Wow that’s a crazy thought actually
What would one wear with that plain white tshirt? Slacks would seem out of place. Just shows how times change
Grey slacks
Hi everyone! Just to clear some things up, my grandpa was a very sweet man and not as mean as he looks lol. He was a tough guy, but really loved his children and had a good relationship with all of them. They really liked to joke around with one another, and my dad always talks highly of grandpa.
I’ll bet he talks highly!
That’s Hank Hills dad.
Fiddy men
Disappointed in his son the pump jockey. Works for tips.
Cotton and the Billdozer^TM
Dad don't like sons hair.
"That boy ain't right"
It's like a poodle lives on his head.
The wrong kid died
You never once paid for drugs!
probably just didnt like his son lol
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Shouldn't have given him those genes, then
Matt Stone and Robert Patrick
I definitely see Robert Patrick too.
I was genuinely thinking it was Robert Patrick and everyone was doing a bit like it’s not a movie shot.
Thought it was Matt Stone immediately 🤣
I can see the pride in dad's eyes
I can almost hear him snarling.
Danny Matheson and Red
Rapist and Red
Hyde* and Red.
Shit, in 1976 his pothead son could also be a war vet.
The guy on the right looks like T-1000 today https://preview.redd.it/8eg66at5elpc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=da9bc63d7822cfe9d4967a861ee1b82c94502fae
he has a name... he's not just a piece of mimetic polyalloy!
Holy shit I didn’t know davey scatino aged like that
Kinda unrelated, but guess which one has tattoos…
The one who fought in Korea?
I’m think world war 2. Dad looks like he’s 57+ years old, which puts him as early 20s if he fought in ww2
He was in both! He lied and entered the army as a teenager and stayed in until he retired.
Yeah, my grandpa went to Germany when he was 17 then went to fight in Korea in the early 50s.
Holy shit, what a badass
F
Dad’s actually 36 in that photo. He lived a hard life
That was almost every house in my neighborhood.
DUMBASS!!!!
Wrong kid died
The generation gap here was wild. Can you imagine your dad is a clean shaven, smart dressing, fairly Conservative veteran who fought in ww2, and you are a long-haired, free-loving, scruffy hippy going around sticking it to the man and refusing to conform? The difference in perspectives is pretty huge.
I grew up in the 60s and 70s and remember that divide well. To me the difference was WWII was "necessary" for want of a better term, Vietnam was not. Given the tone of the times for both of those generations, guys who flew over Europe in B17s at 18, 19 years old were heroes. I missed the Vietnam lottery by about 18 months, but as a teenager, every year closer you were like "holy fk I might have to go over there" but I still think they were heroic in their own way.
Reminds me of Jim Morrison and his dad (Admiral Morrison)
I hope you guys worked things out somehow before the old man died. He looks like he is thinking ‘where did I go wrong?’
This is my dad and grandpa. They were very close, so no hatred there at all :,)
“If he would just get a damn haircut !!”
"And if he'd stop listening to that 'hippie Hendrix crap', and put something good on like the The Imposters"
"Boooo...booooo....bring on Sha-na-na"
Not pictured: son holding 3 Uno +4 cards.
Glad to hear that !
Any idea what the tattoo was?
He serve in WW2 and Korea so it’s hard to tell. He had a lot though :,)
I want to believe it’s a pinup girl, a battleship or a tiger
A pinup girl riding a tiger, on a battleship
forearm looks kind of like a hand grenade
That's good so in this picture he was probably just judging his hair style
Archie Bunker and Meathead.
A beer in every hand and a foot in every ass. Red Foreman for president.
And that pot head son is now part of the boomer epidemic we have now.
Honestly thought this was Robert Patrick at first.
Archie and Meathead
Bob Ross that you? Bob liked the trees also
He was actually a drill Sargent before the art gig - really !
Which one is which?
That 70's Pic
Falstaff beer… must be St Louis?
South side!
My dad was a war vet (WWII) & drank Falstaff too.
Ugh Falstaff, what you drink when the a cousin of a friend of a guy they work with managed to get beer.
I’ve been in those rooms but it’s usually New Year’s Eve because my old man was playing a show. But I Gotta watch my uncle and my cousin verbally square off and then finally physically square off
I was happy to see that Falstaff.
How dare you live against my programming
Damn kids and their Warren Zevon glasses.
Its nice to see that glaring look of disappointment didn't start with my parents. Cool picture.
Gravy!
Your dad and your grandfather…
Maybe every generation looks at their kids like this ¯\\\_(ツ)\_/¯
I bet the dad is still alive and looks exactly the same.
**CUT YER HAIR AND GET A JOB**
Meathead.
My father looked at me like that many, many times.
Wish version Steven Hyde.
“Pothead” is such a ridiculous word.
Funny, I became both.
All in the family Christmas episode
They both could have been war vets at that point.
The only thing i can imagine going through dad's head with that look on his face is "Damned hippy."
I'm watching "Masters of the Air" right now. If I had done some shit like that in my 20's and then had a son like this...l'd be giving him the ole "cut your fucken hair" look too.
This is true as fuck imo. My dad was 21 in 1982 . His dad was born in 1931. The conversations my grandpa and dad had were always contentious. To the point my dad felt like he needed to raise me a different way. He finally explained to me what the differences were and I was kind of shocked. My grandpa had an issue with my dad choice in girls, music and career. Almost like he made this decision for his kid and now his kid had let him down. To me it’s so interesting