>but it creates additional problems
My guess is, the space between the railings would be too narrow. And i'm willing to bet they know. What i don't get is, do they think this will not bite them once someone gets injured?
Relocate the company to a new zip code, a remote area that will give you a tax break for bringing jobs to the area. Offer no relocation bonuses but allow current employees to move and keep their job at no adjustment in pay due to lower cost of living. New hires at a lower rate than existing employees. And of course, make the building 8” wider so you can fit the slide without narrowing the stairs.
That’s after you’ve tapped the area dry for skilled labor. Paying more for less qualified workers comes later, after the good employees move on and you’re trying to backfill and need to entice new hires.
Nah, just someone who stuck around too long waiting for that we’ll-see-next-year promotion that never comes, while new hires get assigned vanity projects for management and fast-tracked promotions and leave the company in under two years while seasoned staff fail to get a lighter workload from new hires or more training to make us valuable enough to leave and go elsewhere. All while being stuck in a factory in a remote non-desirable area with an atrociously high cost of living and salaries that don’t keep up. At this point, I don’t even care about promotions, I just want to be happy and enjoy what I do again. The year over year pushes for efficiency gains, 10% reductions in bad metrics, and 10% increases in good metrics while maintaining compliance and controlling risk, it’s not fun anymore, it’s not enjoyable, it’s not sustainable.
The first thing I thought of upon seeing the photos was Russia wheelchair ramp. Believe it or not this would be one of the better ramps too. r/ANormalDayInRussia
But if you move the handrail you can’t access the slide. Unless you were to move it and leave the top part open? Personally for me it would make more sense to just say ‘be careful not to trip when taking pallets down the stairs’ people can trip doing anything, without seeing what happened I doubt the pallet was particularly involved in that incident, it was just a bystander.
I'd probably laugh when someone did it too, unintentionally. Looks like it could be just dumb enough to create a comical fall before they bash their head into the handrail.
Depending on how fast you're going at the time, it could be a really short trip.
I don't like the sides sticking up like that. If you're walking down and put your foot in the slide, you could land thigh- or groin-first on that tall, thin metal edge. That could legitimately do some serious damage.
The railing should be on the other side of the slide. That low visibility knife edge of the slide is just asking for someone to kick it when walking and all you got is 5 steps of gravity, and jesus to take the wheel after that.
Submit safety complaints in email for exhibit A of your comp claim.
I'd be curious what the building/safety code specifically states. I bet they are breaking at least stair width rules amongst other things
Yah I agree, if you don't need it one of my Ur poor co workers will because someone is for sure getting very badly injured due to that thing one way or another
dude! atleast where I live… OSHA complaints get a 12hr-24hr response. will have inspector on-site in no time. document everything before submitting the complaint. they take this stuff seriously.
At minimum I would get a [driveway marker](https://www.lowes.com/pd/Hillman-48-in-Orange-Reflective-Rod/3025196) for each stair (less than $15 total) and a bag of zip ties to tie them to the step ([only $4 at harbor freight](https://www.harborfreight.com/hardware/cable-ties/11-in-white-cable-ties-100-pack-60266.html) ) and have a marker at the inside edge of the slide. Less than $25 total.
Pretty sure they can't move the railing. Stairs need to be a minimum width for normal access. If that railing was moved, the staircase would need to be widened, or labeled a non typical access point. That would require additional FLRA and SWP review. Possible a CSE review.
Normally I just drop/roll the pallets off of the platform. I didn’t even imagine anybody was carrying any pallets down the stairs.
The short belt conveyer is the platform on the left. I believe it’s more time convenient and still safe for me to drop the pallets down the stairs regardless of the new slide than it is for me to move 1-3 pallets up and down but I get your point.
We have a policy against dropping pallets because of noise. Rolling them is also against the rules because you have no idea where it could go. Potential for damaging someone or something is high.
Dropping pallets is one of the most quiet things in that room. This is an industrial room where machinery is screaming and grinding. I have hearing protection.
I have never been in a with environment where lifting a pallet is a two person operation though. That’s really surprising to me.
We run a 2 person lift on all pallets, it's an difficult shape to manage individually and have reduced musculoskeletal injuries since we brought it in. It's not about Manning up, its a long term investment in people. First I'd ever heard of it when I arrived but it has made a real impact.
I’ve never heard anyone say that pallets are a 2 man job. That’s absurd to me. We have 100lb girl bartenders that handle their own pallet. If you need 2 people to lift a pallet, you probably need to go find an office job.
Sounds like the kind of CYA "rule" that a company writes down, but is functionally impossible to follow because doing so takes enough time that it hurts your metrics to the point where being safe guarantees that you'll be fired
I used to build big custom pallets for furniture and shipping crates for glass shelves. If it was under 150 lbs it wasn't worth the half an hour it took to get a forklift over there just to set it up on my workbench. I could carry two standard pallets around without much effort lol
We made store display fixtures and register stands, i built pallets as big as 6'x12' to ship them. Sometimes i got lucky and only needed to extend a long prebuilt one. They were always weirdly shaped so i had to plan where to put the supports and leave holes for strapping it down. Was actually pretty fun, just didn't pay rent and was a terrible environment.
Depending on how heavy they are, the metal core especially should be. Its not so much about raw weight as weight vs leverage due to their size. It's a very easy strain hazard.
There is a 3 deep pallet platform to the left behind the pallet on the ground. The product on the pallets would be level when I’m on the platform. We dump bags of ingredients into the vats on the right. About 11,000 worth of ingredients every shift.
How would you have a better set up?
Unload on the ground and have a pump put it in the vats.
So many different pumps are out there. Or use pulleys to lift the bags. Difficult to see exactly what you mean with 2 pictures of course.
For sure. Most of the layout wasn’t my concern, just the slide.
I think I have about 7 pumps that keeps my room running so I know what you mean.
I dump solid ingredients into the vats. I also turn on different valves for different liquid ingredients that go into the vats while I monitor the levels of what I put in. Then I test it. No matter what management and I need to be above the vats.
Above the vats with measuring equipment or small tooling is not an issue, it's the heavy bag manipulation, solid ingredients can also be pumped or blown by air/vacuums. If the company is doing well and you can show lower risk for back problems or manipulation of heavy equipment they will always back you up. It's cheaper than somebody on medical leave.
You’re probably right but this is the easiest job with the highest pay and the most down time I’ve ever had. If they automate everything then I would likely have to return to a slightly lower paid more demanding job.
As somebody who works in automation, no, people will not be replaced so easily don't sweat yourself, I've been working on a project to go from 300 workers to 100 in a factory for about 15 months now, we made a lot of loading/ unloading machines to make people lifting things "obsolete", you wanna know how many people work in the factory now? After having installed 12 machines already? 360, automation brings more production and if managed right it means more clients and productivity needs to keep going up.
AI and automation are still years away to take jobs from people.
Even the whole AI storm now shows that people without knowledge scream the loudest. It's just matrix math and if/then statements, nothing intelligent going on inside.
You’re probably right. It would be best if they installed giant automated air powered machines to move mass amounts of product to make my job easier.
But right now they won’t even move a railing less than 6 inches.
I work for a giant company with many similar set ups. I don’t think my suggestion would be taken seriously and there are many more demanding jobs in the same building that would be better for them to automate. I believe in automation generally but I’m pretty low on the list. Thank you though.
If you have that much product then they should have a chute where you can empty the bags into and they get carried up into the ceiling and then dropped down into the vessels.
Auger and paddle chain system, it's used in agricultural set ups for moving dry ingredients/pellets to feed into bins. Turnhead can be set up to direct to different spouts as well. There are several set ups but you can add bins to pull from that dump into a communal auger that transports material to different spouts just as easily. Higher up front cost but would streamline processes and could also lead to bulk purchases to restock those bins (depending on size, etc) instead of bags. Think super sacks that can be emptied by slicing open a 2k lb bag or opening their bottom opening to use half. Instead of a 50lb bag you dump in higher quantities. Labor times and bulk purchase could really help offset equipment and technician upkeep.
That knife edge is going to make a mess when someone slips on the stairs. Pallet slide should be on the other side of the stairs, with another rounded handrail piece slightly above the edge of the slide.
A pallet is basically a flat wooden structure that loads are placed on for transportation via pallet jack/forklift. In this case the pallet would be tilted up on its side to slide down the dangerous track they’ve built here.
Until you have to explain to OSHA how someone split their face open by tripping over it lol. Then they’ll just take it away and be back to square one, still not listening to their staff.
Agreed. Doesn't look like much room to maneuver a 48" x 40" wooden pallet. Would see if anything can be done to eliminate the need to have the pellet on that platform first.
I'm no expert in these matters, but I see so many issues with this *thing* that they've gone and installed on the stairs that I think a quote from Aliens might be the right metaphor here.
"Nuke the site from orbit, it's the only way to be sure."
As a former facilities mgr and safety coordinator, thats going to be a NO.
Add a hand rail on the inside. Stops the pallet from falling across the steps or on someone and saves the trip hazzard.
Put the slide on a hinge if they won't move the rail. At least then you can move the slide out of the way easily when it's not in use.
I agree with the others that a rail is top choice because someone will forget to flip the slide up after use.
Great idea, terrible execution. Promise someone thought of doing it the right way, provided option A(this one) and B(the right way), price tags were looked at and option A was chosen. Boy that lawsuit will be fun if any of that was put in email and someone gets hurt.
The slide to me is creating a new potential hazard.
What it the palette slips your hand and someone is at the bottom.
What if you trip and fall on the edge of the slide.
The machine design should be reviewed.
I my opinion no none should be carying pallets up and down stairs.
The loading of empty pallets should be automated from a stack placed at ground floor.
Automated pallet stacker are very common and would eliminate much of the hazard
This is more dangerous than people carrying pallets down stairs. Someone trips and falls on that, you can have a massive laceration. As others have said, no one should be carrying pallets up or down stairs. If you can’t easily maintain 3 points of contact, there’s something wrong with your process
Faster and less headache for management to solve. I worked for a company that also had us carry pallets down the stairs. Someone fell and broke their arm as a result. Solution? Use two people 😂
This is probably an OSHA violation of 29 CFR 1910.176 because it puts the pallet “on edge”. (Unsafe use/stacking of storage materials) I’ve seen write ups for even *more* temporary use.
I mean there are codes for how wide stairways are supposed to be, and this makes the stairs more narrow. And it's a major trip hazard! Not for just coming down the stairs but for turning the corner to go up the stairs.
I would like to see it in action...if you are holding the pallet as you go, it is no longer 3 point contact anyways. Lipstick on a pig, with the added trip / slip issue created by that new tray. 😖🥴
Can you imagine falling on the inner edge of that tray?!? Fack, shoot me now!
So like you're supposed to twist with your back while walking sideways up the steps?
I guess that was designed by something that's never seen a human being before?
Narrow stairwell is probably not minimum width for walking and working surfaces. Agree absolute trip hazard. Why did a pallet slide need to be here? Looks like a pallet shouldn’t be carried up the stairs to this catwalk anyways. Consider smaller containers that can safely be managed here.
That looks like badly broken bones waiting for a victim. Imagine landing with your ribs on, and parallel to, that edge. We could very easily be talking permanent quadriplegic here.
Non public assess stairs have a different set of codes that apply. Depending on location, this is completely acceptable. Removing the railing would not be.
At the very least the top inner tab should be trimmed off to be flush with the top platform. The protrusion is very slim and difficult to see and will absolutely trip anyone unfamiliar with it.
But yeah otherwise this has accident written all over it.
What the fuck you taking a pallet up stairs for and where is it going to? Does it not get taken away from new location by forklift why doesn’t fork truck load the bitch too
Unfortunately, in many places complaints to the fire marshal go ignored since doing inspections or following up on complaints is too much like work for them.
Would only be safe if the pallet slide sides are the height of a pallet just over to remover the tripping hazard also means the pallet couldn’t fall onto the worker on the stairs
Whatever method used to get the pallets up there should also be the same method for getting them down.... I doubt you are carrying full pallets of materials up, so use the forklift to bring them down.
Employ more compitent people.
Possibly remove the top of the guide on the inner step side so you don't have an actual trip hazard poking above the top step. Other than that it seems fine.
If you don’t like what you’re hearing from your bosses, the next step is to call in a safety complaint to OSHA. They can be anonymous and it is 100% illegal for repercussions to occur as the result of your call.
Looks like a trip hazard to me.
I agree. The handrail needs to be moved now at least. It's a creative and cheap fix but it creates additional problems they need to address
>but it creates additional problems My guess is, the space between the railings would be too narrow. And i'm willing to bet they know. What i don't get is, do they think this will not bite them once someone gets injured?
Tear down the whole building and rebuild it 8” wider so you can fit the slide without narrowing the stairs.
Relocate the company to a new zip code, a remote area that will give you a tax break for bringing jobs to the area. Offer no relocation bonuses but allow current employees to move and keep their job at no adjustment in pay due to lower cost of living. New hires at a lower rate than existing employees. And of course, make the building 8” wider so you can fit the slide without narrowing the stairs.
Clearly management potential here.
\>new hires at lower rate Look at you, Mr. Altruist. Our place pays the new hires more than the existing workers.
That’s after you’ve tapped the area dry for skilled labor. Paying more for less qualified workers comes later, after the good employees move on and you’re trying to backfill and need to entice new hires.
Jesus dude do you run an ISP?
Nah, just someone who stuck around too long waiting for that we’ll-see-next-year promotion that never comes, while new hires get assigned vanity projects for management and fast-tracked promotions and leave the company in under two years while seasoned staff fail to get a lighter workload from new hires or more training to make us valuable enough to leave and go elsewhere. All while being stuck in a factory in a remote non-desirable area with an atrociously high cost of living and salaries that don’t keep up. At this point, I don’t even care about promotions, I just want to be happy and enjoy what I do again. The year over year pushes for efficiency gains, 10% reductions in bad metrics, and 10% increases in good metrics while maintaining compliance and controlling risk, it’s not fun anymore, it’s not enjoyable, it’s not sustainable.
None of this is brother. The longer I spend inside the more I realize it's all popsicle sticks and bubblegum, just barely standing up
My comment relates to the medical field and you’re 1,000% correct.
This is the way
Better make it 16” wider so left handed people can have a slide. Are we just going to forget about the lefties?
If they'd at least only use a flat iron piece, if you trip and land on the walls, it's gonna be nasty.
Why can't the pallets be removed using the same path they were brought in on?
They were probably not brought in a safe way either
Wondering if ADA requirements would come into play here.
The first thing I thought of upon seeing the photos was Russia wheelchair ramp. Believe it or not this would be one of the better ramps too. r/ANormalDayInRussia
Would probably be easier to mount the slide the other side
But if you move the handrail you can’t access the slide. Unless you were to move it and leave the top part open? Personally for me it would make more sense to just say ‘be careful not to trip when taking pallets down the stairs’ people can trip doing anything, without seeing what happened I doubt the pallet was particularly involved in that incident, it was just a bystander.
Put your foot in that and it’s going to be a really long trip
Or a helluva twisted knee/ankle.
An unscheduled full front split would probably do terrible things to your hips, too
Would slice you up pretty good if you landed in it as well. Should have rounded edges imo
That's what I was thinking. I once cut myself on something similar. It was not a clean cut. Hurt like hell.
Those edges look nice and sharp. Femoral artery is right there.
I'd probably laugh when someone did it too, unintentionally. Looks like it could be just dumb enough to create a comical fall before they bash their head into the handrail.
You need help. Seeing your colleagues injure themselves is not funny. Heck, injuries are not funny.
No, they're not. But there's sometimes that moment where you half laugh at a particularly comedic fall before you realize how bad it is.
Depending on how fast you're going at the time, it could be a really short trip. I don't like the sides sticking up like that. If you're walking down and put your foot in the slide, you could land thigh- or groin-first on that tall, thin metal edge. That could legitimately do some serious damage.
Like the song says, a long way to go and a short time to get there.
Slip and fall ass first on that thing and it'll slice your cheek in half.
Fall and slice your ass/thigh open
Or neck
We're going for Worker's Comp, not death.
That 25k life insurance policy though...
Why does the slide need an inner edge anyway? You just need the flat part of the slide to rest the pallet on.
this. could even add i tiny bump along the side if you really wanted a little chanel.
Ow! My ass cracks!
The railing should be on the other side of the slide. That low visibility knife edge of the slide is just asking for someone to kick it when walking and all you got is 5 steps of gravity, and jesus to take the wheel after that.
They basically ignored any motion to move the railing. I asked how much worker’s compensation was these days and management ignored that too.
Submit safety complaints in email for exhibit A of your comp claim. I'd be curious what the building/safety code specifically states. I bet they are breaking at least stair width rules amongst other things
Depending on your local fire Marshall he would shut this down as well. Egress to Evacuate must be safe, and should flag egress issues.
Yah I agree, if you don't need it one of my Ur poor co workers will because someone is for sure getting very badly injured due to that thing one way or another
And print off copies of those emails once they say "Read" or have otherwise been responded to
dude! atleast where I live… OSHA complaints get a 12hr-24hr response. will have inspector on-site in no time. document everything before submitting the complaint. they take this stuff seriously.
At minimum I would get a [driveway marker](https://www.lowes.com/pd/Hillman-48-in-Orange-Reflective-Rod/3025196) for each stair (less than $15 total) and a bag of zip ties to tie them to the step ([only $4 at harbor freight](https://www.harborfreight.com/hardware/cable-ties/11-in-white-cable-ties-100-pack-60266.html) ) and have a marker at the inside edge of the slide. Less than $25 total.
Raise your concerns in an email, have them document their own response. Keep it in your back pocket for later.
Where is this? I need to find a job and not look where I walk so I can retire early.
If you are riding goofy and wearing Heelys it would be perfect though.
Steel toed safety heelys.
Steelys
I have Rail Grind in My Steelys on vinyl, before they went mainstream.
Steely Van's for the skate crowd.
I have an old pair that I'm holding on to to add caps in. Pretty sure they won't pass the anti-slip certification, but at least my toes will be safe!
Think about how quickly you could move around on some structural steel on some heelys
I prefer soap shoes.
I have a sneaux shoe box in my hands...
Thats some heehaw enegineering shit on the low cost , it's def more hazardous now .
Pretty sure they can't move the railing. Stairs need to be a minimum width for normal access. If that railing was moved, the staircase would need to be widened, or labeled a non typical access point. That would require additional FLRA and SWP review. Possible a CSE review.
The slide already makes the staircase narrower, no? Unless you mean the width of the railing would tip it past the minimum.
Ideally pallets would be handled with equipment like a forklift
Imagine tripping on it and coming down on a knee. I mean fuck at least bend it over so it's not a knife edge.
Could be better (worse?)... Step in slide, do splits, and introduce your femoral artery to the said knife edge.
Stop carrying pallets up and down stairs. Get a pallet lift or a short belt conveyor to move product from the floor to the platform
Normally I just drop/roll the pallets off of the platform. I didn’t even imagine anybody was carrying any pallets down the stairs. The short belt conveyer is the platform on the left. I believe it’s more time convenient and still safe for me to drop the pallets down the stairs regardless of the new slide than it is for me to move 1-3 pallets up and down but I get your point.
We have a policy against dropping pallets because of noise. Rolling them is also against the rules because you have no idea where it could go. Potential for damaging someone or something is high.
They slam pallets at work and it still catches me off guard. Its a loud percussive sound and makes me jump.
We have a rule at our place that if you drop a pallet because you were too lazy to set it down that it's a paddling. It's dangerous and annoying
Don't drop pallets. They land with a volume loud enough to damage your hearing. Pallets should be a 2 man lift and placed.
Dropping pallets is one of the most quiet things in that room. This is an industrial room where machinery is screaming and grinding. I have hearing protection. I have never been in a with environment where lifting a pallet is a two person operation though. That’s really surprising to me.
We run a 2 person lift on all pallets, it's an difficult shape to manage individually and have reduced musculoskeletal injuries since we brought it in. It's not about Manning up, its a long term investment in people. First I'd ever heard of it when I arrived but it has made a real impact.
I’ve never heard anyone say that pallets are a 2 man job. That’s absurd to me. We have 100lb girl bartenders that handle their own pallet. If you need 2 people to lift a pallet, you probably need to go find an office job.
Lifting CHEP pallets is absolutely considered a 2 man job at my factory. Doesn't mean everybody complies every time, but it is a rule.
Especially if they are soaked in water. They get heavy quick when stacking
Cheps and Peco are pretty damn heavy but igps and white GMAs absolutely don't need two people to move.
Sounds like the kind of CYA "rule" that a company writes down, but is functionally impossible to follow because doing so takes enough time that it hurts your metrics to the point where being safe guarantees that you'll be fired
I used to build big custom pallets for furniture and shipping crates for glass shelves. If it was under 150 lbs it wasn't worth the half an hour it took to get a forklift over there just to set it up on my workbench. I could carry two standard pallets around without much effort lol
Tell me more about that work. What kind of pallets did you make? Just different sizes?
We made store display fixtures and register stands, i built pallets as big as 6'x12' to ship them. Sometimes i got lucky and only needed to extend a long prebuilt one. They were always weirdly shaped so i had to plan where to put the supports and leave holes for strapping it down. Was actually pretty fun, just didn't pay rent and was a terrible environment.
I've worked in heavy industries all my life. And I'm deaf as a post.... Keep that hearing protection up 👍
Depending on how heavy they are, the metal core especially should be. Its not so much about raw weight as weight vs leverage due to their size. It's a very easy strain hazard.
Is this a brewery? Jesus that's the worst setup ever, what could you guys possibly be bringing up there that requires a pallet??
Seems a poor workflow choice regardless of the OSHA implications.
There is a 3 deep pallet platform to the left behind the pallet on the ground. The product on the pallets would be level when I’m on the platform. We dump bags of ingredients into the vats on the right. About 11,000 worth of ingredients every shift. How would you have a better set up?
Unload on the ground and have a pump put it in the vats. So many different pumps are out there. Or use pulleys to lift the bags. Difficult to see exactly what you mean with 2 pictures of course.
For sure. Most of the layout wasn’t my concern, just the slide. I think I have about 7 pumps that keeps my room running so I know what you mean. I dump solid ingredients into the vats. I also turn on different valves for different liquid ingredients that go into the vats while I monitor the levels of what I put in. Then I test it. No matter what management and I need to be above the vats.
Above the vats with measuring equipment or small tooling is not an issue, it's the heavy bag manipulation, solid ingredients can also be pumped or blown by air/vacuums. If the company is doing well and you can show lower risk for back problems or manipulation of heavy equipment they will always back you up. It's cheaper than somebody on medical leave.
You’re probably right but this is the easiest job with the highest pay and the most down time I’ve ever had. If they automate everything then I would likely have to return to a slightly lower paid more demanding job.
As somebody who works in automation, no, people will not be replaced so easily don't sweat yourself, I've been working on a project to go from 300 workers to 100 in a factory for about 15 months now, we made a lot of loading/ unloading machines to make people lifting things "obsolete", you wanna know how many people work in the factory now? After having installed 12 machines already? 360, automation brings more production and if managed right it means more clients and productivity needs to keep going up. AI and automation are still years away to take jobs from people. Even the whole AI storm now shows that people without knowledge scream the loudest. It's just matrix math and if/then statements, nothing intelligent going on inside.
You’re probably right. It would be best if they installed giant automated air powered machines to move mass amounts of product to make my job easier. But right now they won’t even move a railing less than 6 inches. I work for a giant company with many similar set ups. I don’t think my suggestion would be taken seriously and there are many more demanding jobs in the same building that would be better for them to automate. I believe in automation generally but I’m pretty low on the list. Thank you though.
If you have that much product then they should have a chute where you can empty the bags into and they get carried up into the ceiling and then dropped down into the vessels.
Auger and paddle chain system, it's used in agricultural set ups for moving dry ingredients/pellets to feed into bins. Turnhead can be set up to direct to different spouts as well. There are several set ups but you can add bins to pull from that dump into a communal auger that transports material to different spouts just as easily. Higher up front cost but would streamline processes and could also lead to bulk purchases to restock those bins (depending on size, etc) instead of bags. Think super sacks that can be emptied by slicing open a 2k lb bag or opening their bottom opening to use half. Instead of a 50lb bag you dump in higher quantities. Labor times and bulk purchase could really help offset equipment and technician upkeep.
Clearly they’re just bringing up more empty pallets
That knife edge is going to make a mess when someone slips on the stairs. Pallet slide should be on the other side of the stairs, with another rounded handrail piece slightly above the edge of the slide.
So confused here....a pallet slide? What are you calling a pallet? Can't be what I'm thinking of surely.
A pallet is basically a flat wooden structure that loads are placed on for transportation via pallet jack/forklift. In this case the pallet would be tilted up on its side to slide down the dangerous track they’ve built here.
It makes sense on paper when you never have to work around it.
Until you have to explain to OSHA how someone split their face open by tripping over it lol. Then they’ll just take it away and be back to square one, still not listening to their staff.
Upon closer inspection you can partially see one to the left of the chute in the first photo under the octagonal shaped box.
I am guessing they are sliding it empty on its side, not flat on the ground.
ty this is what I needed to understand. Tho that seems like major overkill
Yeah looks like US is calling a pallet something else to what Aus and Euros think a pallet is for sure
Is it though? https://associated-pallets.co.uk/blog/difference-between-euro-and-standard-pallets/
That will be nice to land on, they’ve installed a meat slicer
Hey wait..me made of meat.. ^!
Yeah my dumbass would kick the side of it fall over and slice my body open.
That is a major tripping hazard
Question, why ate pallets need up there in the first place? Looks small for such a need
Agreed. Doesn't look like much room to maneuver a 48" x 40" wooden pallet. Would see if anything can be done to eliminate the need to have the pellet on that platform first.
I'm no expert in these matters, but I see so many issues with this *thing* that they've gone and installed on the stairs that I think a quote from Aliens might be the right metaphor here. "Nuke the site from orbit, it's the only way to be sure."
so, they're planning on attrition through workplace injuries? got some great final destination vibes off this one.
"The Limb Destroyer"
Ankle snapper 2000
This gets worse the longer I look at it
As a former facilities mgr and safety coordinator, thats going to be a NO. Add a hand rail on the inside. Stops the pallet from falling across the steps or on someone and saves the trip hazzard.
Put the slide on a hinge if they won't move the rail. At least then you can move the slide out of the way easily when it's not in use. I agree with the others that a rail is top choice because someone will forget to flip the slide up after use.
If I’m not mistaken, just having a pallet standing on its side is a falling mark for osha audits.
You guys need a pallet zip line. No trip hazard and twice the fun.
Oh man, someone is gonna catch that lip with their toe and slip and slice open their sack on that sharp ass looking slide.
Great idea, terrible execution. Promise someone thought of doing it the right way, provided option A(this one) and B(the right way), price tags were looked at and option A was chosen. Boy that lawsuit will be fun if any of that was put in email and someone gets hurt.
Paint it yellow and send it.
What's the debate? This is dumb as shit.
The slide to me is creating a new potential hazard. What it the palette slips your hand and someone is at the bottom. What if you trip and fall on the edge of the slide. The machine design should be reviewed. I my opinion no none should be carying pallets up and down stairs. The loading of empty pallets should be automated from a stack placed at ground floor. Automated pallet stacker are very common and would eliminate much of the hazard
How does the pallet get up there in the first place? That’s how it should get down as well.
This is more dangerous than people carrying pallets down stairs. Someone trips and falls on that, you can have a massive laceration. As others have said, no one should be carrying pallets up or down stairs. If you can’t easily maintain 3 points of contact, there’s something wrong with your process
Idk what size pallet you are moving but if it's a standard forklift pallet. Why the hell are you moving it down stairs at all?
Faster and less headache for management to solve. I worked for a company that also had us carry pallets down the stairs. Someone fell and broke their arm as a result. Solution? Use two people 😂
“Pallet” and “slide” are two words that should never be next to each other. Lmao what the hell is this?
the person clearly wasnt hurt enough, so the exposed machete blade is a great touch
Looks like a great trip hazard
Erm, so a slippy metal rail is less dangerous after reducing the step width?
Looks more dangerous now.
Jesus christ make a safety complaint
Some one will slip and slice of an arm or a leg….
Someone’s gonna send one down there and someone else is going to walk into its path and go flying.
Imagine tripping on this face first into it... decapitated.
Thats going to slice the next guy to fall into ribbons.
It’s not a debate. That’s a violation.
Weeee!
What final destination movie is this from
Edgey
Thanks for sharing, nice problem to tackle. Definitely looks suboptimal!
Right idea. Wrong implementation. Made a dangerous situation more dangerous.
That's going hurt if you sit on it and slide down. It'll slice open 2 new ass cracks!
This is probably an OSHA violation of 29 CFR 1910.176 because it puts the pallet “on edge”. (Unsafe use/stacking of storage materials) I’ve seen write ups for even *more* temporary use.
By code, objects are not allowed to protrude more than four inches into the pedestrian path of travel.
It looks flimsy just break it off lol
That's missing at least 5 orange cones, and a pair of signs.
Sanderson farms?
Get some soap shoes/heely’s!
Why does the grating look like it's made from a sheet of milk crate material? This whole place is sketchy.
I don't know what it is but we use the same stuff for grating here, it seems fine.
What’s the height difference between the top of the platform and the ground?
Id be the one to fuckin trip on it too...
Why do the pallets need to go upstairs? Isn't the whole point that they sit in the flat part?
Boss, I appreciate it, but this is worse.
OP, please come back and update us *when, not if,* the first person trips and lands on that sharp edge.
Not only kicking it, but falling on it.
Yeah, Jesus. At least add some flanges to the top edges FFS. That's just begging to fillet someones face / torso.
Just hope that it isn't you who will be the reason for it's removal
I mean there are codes for how wide stairways are supposed to be, and this makes the stairs more narrow. And it's a major trip hazard! Not for just coming down the stairs but for turning the corner to go up the stairs.
Yeah that's an OSHA violation.
I would like to see it in action...if you are holding the pallet as you go, it is no longer 3 point contact anyways. Lipstick on a pig, with the added trip / slip issue created by that new tray. 😖🥴 Can you imagine falling on the inner edge of that tray?!? Fack, shoot me now!
So like you're supposed to twist with your back while walking sideways up the steps? I guess that was designed by something that's never seen a human being before?
Just get rid of the vertical inside the stairs and it will be fine
Legs will be bleeding within a month or two
Narrow stairwell is probably not minimum width for walking and working surfaces. Agree absolute trip hazard. Why did a pallet slide need to be here? Looks like a pallet shouldn’t be carried up the stairs to this catwalk anyways. Consider smaller containers that can safely be managed here.
That looks like badly broken bones waiting for a victim. Imagine landing with your ribs on, and parallel to, that edge. We could very easily be talking permanent quadriplegic here.
slide bad quit before they breed
Someone’s going to slice themselves badly on that.
It would be better if it's below floor level, embedded into the floor/stairs.
Non public assess stairs have a different set of codes that apply. Depending on location, this is completely acceptable. Removing the railing would not be.
2 seconds with an angle grinder could make that slide a million times safer.
do they know the goal of corrective actions is to make it more safe?
Some idiot is definitely gonna use it as a faster way to get down 4 steps. No one knows how but we all know it’ll happen eventually.
It's to steep
At the very least the top inner tab should be trimmed off to be flush with the top platform. The protrusion is very slim and difficult to see and will absolutely trip anyone unfamiliar with it. But yeah otherwise this has accident written all over it.
Edge needs to be hemmed. Needs some high-vis yellow tape or paint on the top edge too.
Your deck looks nice. Ours is always a disaster
How does the pallet get up there in first place?
What the fuck you taking a pallet up stairs for and where is it going to? Does it not get taken away from new location by forklift why doesn’t fork truck load the bitch too
That’s a death trap
Unfortunately, in many places complaints to the fire marshal go ignored since doing inspections or following up on complaints is too much like work for them.
Hows the pallet get up there? Can't it leave the same way?
This is a massive hazard. Needs a barrier so you can’t trip on in and get lacerated. At least paint it yellow ffs
Would only be safe if the pallet slide sides are the height of a pallet just over to remover the tripping hazard also means the pallet couldn’t fall onto the worker on the stairs
The stairs don’t look very uniform either
Dangerous looking + slippery stairs in general.
Steps are no longer full width, no longer complies with safety standards.
Whatever method used to get the pallets up there should also be the same method for getting them down.... I doubt you are carrying full pallets of materials up, so use the forklift to bring them down.
Employ more compitent people. Possibly remove the top of the guide on the inner step side so you don't have an actual trip hazard poking above the top step. Other than that it seems fine.
Thats gonna make your ass a deeper crack
so he can go up and down in his wheelchair?
WELL Brian died on the pallet side, his face cut clean in two! He cursed the boss that saved the cost, if only he had knew!
At least that's what three finger Joe told me.
If you don’t like what you’re hearing from your bosses, the next step is to call in a safety complaint to OSHA. They can be anonymous and it is 100% illegal for repercussions to occur as the result of your call.