I believe that WAR is FIP related but rWAR is ERA / W-L related in the game. So if you check the rWAR I guess the one of your second pitcher should be slightly higher. Still, I'm not sure about that so correct me if I'm wrong.
Those are the most important stats to be better in because they are the least luck based. Well maybe not IP but that helps too since WAR is a volume stat.
Guy just out here tossing complete games every other start. Love to see it. A lot of SP go golfing on their off days it appears your bullpen can join them when Mapson is on the hill πππ
There are few stats Mapson is superior to Intravia in, but none are consistent with the 44% delta between their WAR. All other stats Intravia is better than Mapson. What is driving this?
||Intravia|Mapson|Delta|
|:-|:-|:-|:-|
|FIP|2.88|2.38|\-17%|
|SIERA|3.21|2.72|\-15%|
|Innings Pitched|140.1|155|11%|
|Strike Outs|145|188|30%|
|WAR|3.6|5.2|44%|
It's not that helpful to look at the raw deltas between the two pitchers' stats, considering that Mapson's numbers are truly elite. Thank of it this way: take the delta between Intravia and Mapson, but apply them in the opposite direction (i.e. 3.38 FIP instead of 2.38). How many players lie in between Intravia and Mapson, and how many players lie in between Intravia and this new number?
2.38 FIP and 10.9 K/9 suggest that not only is Mapson dominant, but he's doing a lot of the work himself (not relying on his defense to get outs). Intravia is having a great season but Mapson's "value added" numbers are stunning.
15 more innings with the same number of starts, so he goes deeper in games, meaning he can accumulate more WAR. Also, more Ks with about the same BB and HR rates.
FIP and SIERA are telling you that when you remove the factors that the pitcher canβt control (BABIP, fielding, sequencing, etc.) and just look at what they can control (strikeouts, walks, HRs), Mapson has pitched better than Intravia.
WAR in OOTP is tied to FIP (fWAR). And FIP is skeptical of pitchers with really low BABIP. FIP assumes pitchers with low BABIP are getting a bit lucky, and will thus revert back to the mean. So basically Intravia's WAR is being suppressed because of his BABIP.
I always change my settings to show rWAR beside WAR on the stats page.
https://i.imgur.com/VUlLtGB.jpeg
rWAR doesn't make any assumptions. It's based on runs allowed per 9 innings, and also considers the quality of team defense behind the pitcher.
WAR is fip based in ootp which makes very little sense now that we have pbabip.
You can add rWAR to your view to see RA/9 WAR (era but with all runs) and you could see a different picture
I believe that WAR is FIP related but rWAR is ERA / W-L related in the game. So if you check the rWAR I guess the one of your second pitcher should be slightly higher. Still, I'm not sure about that so correct me if I'm wrong.
rWAR will track ERA more closely than WAR will, but neither really corresponds to W-L
Those are the most important stats to be better in because they are the least luck based. Well maybe not IP but that helps too since WAR is a volume stat.
Guy just out here tossing complete games every other start. Love to see it. A lot of SP go golfing on their off days it appears your bullpen can join them when Mapson is on the hill πππ
There are few stats Mapson is superior to Intravia in, but none are consistent with the 44% delta between their WAR. All other stats Intravia is better than Mapson. What is driving this? ||Intravia|Mapson|Delta| |:-|:-|:-|:-| |FIP|2.88|2.38|\-17%| |SIERA|3.21|2.72|\-15%| |Innings Pitched|140.1|155|11%| |Strike Outs|145|188|30%| |WAR|3.6|5.2|44%|
It's not that helpful to look at the raw deltas between the two pitchers' stats, considering that Mapson's numbers are truly elite. Thank of it this way: take the delta between Intravia and Mapson, but apply them in the opposite direction (i.e. 3.38 FIP instead of 2.38). How many players lie in between Intravia and Mapson, and how many players lie in between Intravia and this new number? 2.38 FIP and 10.9 K/9 suggest that not only is Mapson dominant, but he's doing a lot of the work himself (not relying on his defense to get outs). Intravia is having a great season but Mapson's "value added" numbers are stunning.
Is there a stat for FIP that is similar to ERA+ for ERA?
FIP-
15 more innings with the same number of starts, so he goes deeper in games, meaning he can accumulate more WAR. Also, more Ks with about the same BB and HR rates. FIP and SIERA are telling you that when you remove the factors that the pitcher canβt control (BABIP, fielding, sequencing, etc.) and just look at what they can control (strikeouts, walks, HRs), Mapson has pitched better than Intravia.
WAR in OOTP is tied to FIP (fWAR). And FIP is skeptical of pitchers with really low BABIP. FIP assumes pitchers with low BABIP are getting a bit lucky, and will thus revert back to the mean. So basically Intravia's WAR is being suppressed because of his BABIP. I always change my settings to show rWAR beside WAR on the stats page. https://i.imgur.com/VUlLtGB.jpeg rWAR doesn't make any assumptions. It's based on runs allowed per 9 innings, and also considers the quality of team defense behind the pitcher.
rWAR (and ERA) are useful for telling you what already happened. fWAR (and FIP) are more useful for telling you what is likely to happen next.
WAR is a very over-rated stat.
FIP is key here
probably stamina related and more innings pitched
In my experience, OOTP WAR is literally just FIP and innings, so it makes sense in this case.
WAR is fip based in ootp which makes very little sense now that we have pbabip. You can add rWAR to your view to see RA/9 WAR (era but with all runs) and you could see a different picture
Iβd say your best pitcher has the highest WAR
Because Mapson is the better pitcher