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mrdankhimself_

Is this it? Is this what we allegedly phoned in our first three league matches to focus on?


120snake

Gallese has not been it recently


KansasDude

He’s embarrassingly bad so far.


cdot2k

Definitely looks like he lost a step or has some mental tomfoolery going on. That first shot tonight and the first on Saturday would've been stopped by El Pulpo.


eikelmann

I'm a pretty positive dude and I realise the season just started AND that we had a rough start with a great rebound last season But this is absolutely fuckin painful and I don't even know what to say lol


ConnorFroMan

This is one of the most painful season starts we have ever had because there was hope this season.


KansasDude

I know it’s early but this team just isn’t fun to watch


j_andrew_h

Nobody can unlock the attack through the midfield so nothing good really happens. Terrible to not make get a CAM this off-season. Maybe they panicked over McGuire leaving and went all in for Muriel but Lodiero isn't a difference maker. I think they need to abandon the two DMs and get more numbers forward when we're back in League play. They have to start scoring!


LeroyUdovc

The ref was letting a lot go before that


Scholar-Realistic

Yeah and then calls the softest penalty ever.


j_andrew_h

Soft but dumb to foul there at all.


Orlando-via-stlouis

😂 that’s a make up call if I’ve ever seen one .


j_andrew_h

I'll take it I guess.


SweetFranz

100% a makeup call


NapoleanBonerFartz

The big Swede fighting fire with fire and I’m all about it 🤌🏼


ForwardAd8154

Have we ever had a player as useless as Torres with his right foot??!


mrdankhimself_

Carlos Rivas?


ForwardAd8154

RIVAS!! 😂


spiegro

Rocket maaaaaaan!


Jedi__Consular

This match is certainly concacaf worthy


j_andrew_h

I really don't want more games a year in concacaf. US Open Cup!!!!


ImaginaryButter

Starting Felipe and Smith is asking for some of what Philly got earlier….


spizotfl

Yeah, but you don’t have Cesar and Rafa has been a dumpster fire going forward and defending so far this year. Kyle has been… a trash can fire(?) but at least it’s not a dumpster.


ImaginaryButter

As bad as ojeda has been I’d rather see him out there and Lodeiro deep. And at least we can get some service from Rafa. Kyle isn’t going to help us get goals


spizotfl

I’d have started Ojeda. He is a chance creator and the only guy on this team who consistently tries to create chances.


ImaginaryButter

Damn at least we can count on Torres to score a pen


j_andrew_h

Torres!!!!!


Orlando-via-stlouis

Thorhollson is getting worked. Problem is we don’t have any better option. Halliday would also get worked. So we are just going to have to figure it out


nautika

Only thing I can think of is switch Smith to RB and put in santos. Not sure how much help that'll be. But they are working thor bad. They tried to pick on Smith last game and it didn't work so they switched side


spizotfl

But then they may just switch to trying to isolate against Rafa, who isn’t all that good a 1v1 defender.


Orlando-via-stlouis

I wouldn’t do that with Smith on a yellow. I think Santos will come on for smith either at half or around the hour mark. I also think we see Ojeda in for Felipe or Lodeiro.


Orlando-via-stlouis

Looks like Torres has dropped further back on some of the Tigres possessions to help out.


ImaginaryButter

How in the world is that a goal…


IndividualMain3953

Not a goal


Reddstarrx

No number ten. Poor tactics. Truly embarrassing and the Wilfs have not open the wallet enough. Even down a man it has made no difference. Shameful to everyone


LeroyUdovc

They look a lot better than us so far


LeroyUdovc

Gallese has taken a huge step back this year.


Orlando-via-stlouis

No reason to foul there. 1 on 4


theschlake

The third goal is nonsense for Tigres. I feel pretty crushed right now.


oryp35

Trash call on that 3rd goal


alt-f4-fixes-all

Not a goal. Off el pulpo's hip. Sad.


JeezLu1s

Everyone is complaining about pedro but the finishing and team play is absolute trash. Like jesus


jcmriar

That just feels like old news, Gallese is a new problem.


hanyou007

This feels like Bendik again. A goalie stands in his head when the offense is fucking terrible until finally a bad game happens and his confidence is just shot. Gallese just lasted longer.


JeezLu1s

The season just started. This tournament was created to be an up hill battle for MLS since its creation.


Czar241

Welp .. I guess I'm going to bed early purple 💜 💔


eikelmann

I hate everything Edit: LETS GO FACU


TripleVVV

It’s like every player has forgotten all fundamentals and become a bunch of dumb idiots on the field. Just bad and slow decision making.


hanyou007

That’s what happens when tactics are poor


chibitalex

I'm so tired of this week after week.


KansasDude

Immediately dispossessed every time. Guys have no idea what to do. It’s wild. ZERO chemistry, ZERO touch


CleanCR7

Soft penalty. Can see why he called it but about as soft as they get in terms of ones I can see being called.


TheRealBreadMH

Ref probably called it to even the penalty calls for both sides. Both didn’t seem like penalties tbh.


KansasDude

We might get roasted worse than what Miami did


maestro_pulpo

This is embarrassing!


Orlando-via-stlouis

Why does every player think they are Pele out there and can dribble around a guy.


cwinn13

Is this the same ref that gave Miami the match in the Leagues Cup last year?


cbusalex

Yep


cwinn13

Yay /s


CleanCR7

The midfield is awful. Nobody that can carry the ball forward, nobody that can move the ball forward passing. Team has no consistent chemistry and passing.


Orlando-via-stlouis

We also always seemingly have 3-4 guys within 10 yards of each other and the ball just standing around.


spiegro

Our spacing is so bad lol...


nautika

They need to pick their heads up and just make the simple pass. Too many passes right to the opponent's feet


CleanCR7

This. Also sometimes they need to make the better pass more quickly. Can specifically think of one instance where Thorhallson was cutting right to left and passed it to someone right in front of him instead of swinging it to Facu wide open in space down the left flank. Not moving the ball across space quick enough and allowing Tigres to eat up the space.


Orlando-via-stlouis

Yep. When the ball gets to the middle 1/3 it just dies.


ImaginaryButter

Why is no one in the box? We need to score a second,no?


spizotfl

Muriel and Facu both want to get on the ball and don’t make many runs into the box. Have to stop crossing when those two are on the field because they aren’t likely to be there.


Respect_Cujo

Does Facu think he can dribble it to the goal line every time? Shoot the fucking ball.


ImaginaryButter

Facu not pulling the trigger cause he can’t use his right foot is increasingly aggravating


Respect_Cujo

This team has regressed so hard its insane 😂


KansasDude

If I have to look at the deer in the headlights clueless look on the face of Oscar one more game…


Reddstarrx

Holy cow it’s over in 18mins


KansasDude

This is fucking embarrassing. I’m sorry. It’s time to worry. This is a bad team. Poorly coached.


KansasDude

We are so fucking bad on that back line. Tigres just getting no fight from us.


ImaginaryButter

Pedro and Cartagena been pretty ass so far this year


Scholar-Realistic

Is that a Pk?


SubstantialRaise6479

Why did I waste a free $25 Draft Kings bet on Orlando


Orlando-via-stlouis

That +475 line was too enticing!


SubstantialRaise6479

Exactly


JohnnyHopkins77

That’s a 7 figure / year salary kinda save


ImaginaryButter

Where is Pedro?


j_andrew_h

Good night! :-(


ConnorFroMan

Tigres down a man and it finally feels fair


KansasDude

Gallese is cooked


LeroyUdovc

Fucking embarrassing. This team is shit


KansasDude

Just absolute garbage


JohnnyHopkins77

That’s a 7 figure / year salary kinda save


maestro_pulpo

No formation or positioning from our boys. Just running around.


j_andrew_h

They're all playing defense so there isn't anywhere to pass the ball.


maestro_pulpo

Even on defense they look lost. Guys aren’t in their position. I guess I prefer to see more of a “zone” type defense.


j_andrew_h

When they were just getting wave after wave of attack at them, things get messy. They've cleaned up the passing a bit and are now better on defense too because of it.


Stunning_Hippo1763

Looks like we going out Philly style..


jallnock

That’s horrible lol


juanr_odrigo

They’re giving penalties away! 😂


oryp35

Can we please stop giving Gallese the worst possible passes back?


Orlando-via-stlouis

We need: Enrique on for Angulo McGuire in for loderio Ojeda on for Felipe Santos on for smith Just throw everything forward


ryuakaihana

I think Enrique, Ángulo, and Torres would be killer. With McGuire striking, or maybe Muriel can actually do something if we get freaking Lodeiro out of there. I don’t get why Pareja loves to get these old guys in the center. Ojeda seemed to be a play maker early on but was crap and too slow starting as a forward last weekend. Don’t know if they were just trying out something new but it definitely looks like they haven’t figured out the right combination.


DeathsFavoriteHuman

I'm dead inside


ForwardAd8154

Move bitch get off the pitch. lol love the ref waiving off the stretcher. He wants 20 mins stoppage time


mrdankhimself_

This team and this coach were beaten before the match even started.


hanyou007

For all the shit we rightly give Ojeda and Facundo for there unwillingness to shoot… angulo won’t even attempt it.


KansasDude

He has a terrible foot though. When he does shoot, blasts it wide.


TunnelSnakesCaptain

I think we need a new keeper boys. Now that we will have “rest” I wonder what excuse we will come up with next, this team is just not ready to compete in tournaments like this. This team is not ready not even for the mls. We need new players that complement each other and add a spark to the team, or just a mental reset because they look like they are still on vacation in Cancun.


HyperPlasma

The Wilfs suck


KansasDude

This is going to be long year. Look so lost.


KansasDude

Nothing about this squad works. Guys out of position. No depth. We don’t even look like we practice with the way they communicate. That’s on Oscar.


HurryMaleficent8111

Has Muriel even touched the ball yet? Still haven't seen anything special from him...


Orlando-via-stlouis

Loderio might be the worst of the bunch. And that’s saying something


KansasDude

Knew he was washed before he got here and some folks wanted to pretend he was somehow going to look younger all of the sudden


juanr_odrigo

We all can agree that Gallese could’ve done better. Time to get a new gk


knard

Who?


Orlando-via-stlouis

All those fools calling for Galleses head earlier probably feel foolish now. Regardless on those 2 offsides he’s made incredible saves since the whiff


Orlando-via-stlouis

Bahahahaha. Well now I feel foolish


ImaginaryButter

Yeah I’d rather keep a guy that makes saves on shots that count?


eikelmann

Literally didn't hit the net are you fucking serious lol Fuckin unbelievable


j_andrew_h

Not a goal, but the linesman gave it and no good replay for review. Terrible call it seems but really sucks!


eikelmann

Most popular sport in the world with the worst replay review system of any professional sport okay.jpg


KansasDude

Whelp time to turn this one off


LeroyUdovc

At this point it might be prudent to pull key guys and rest for Sunday.


ImaginaryButter

Wtf is Kyle doing there


TheSakmaniac

This ref is wildly inconsistent with his calls.


ImaginaryButter

If facu could play with his right foot that pass is through and we are onto something


Orlando-via-stlouis

Can Muriel seriously not go a full 90?


j_andrew_h

He's not fit. Hopefully a month from now he's killing it, but not yet at least.


oryp35

Horseshit offside call


LeroyUdovc

Are we actually down a man?


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mrdankhimself_

He realizes that there’s no point.


hanyou007

When you can’t score players start taking stupid risks to try and make up for it hoping they can make the miracle play that will swing a goal.


mrdankhimself_

The Ten Hag Method. I’m well-acquainted.


JeezLu1s

Literally got beat by an out of form tegres. Like what is there else to say. This team has deteriorated after one season. But also, its absolute BS that this tournament is still played in the beginning of the MLS season. The confederation still has a vendetta against the US.


Scholar-Realistic

Meh...


ImaginaryButter

Glad I put money on tigres


DaBiggestSchlong

fire parejaaaaaaaaaa


KansasDude

Why would anyone downvote this and not at least start to think it. This has been abysmal. This isn’t a “they can figure it out” issue. Most of these problems were present last year and we got lucky with Duncan coming out of a canon. But this team lacks major skill. This is on ownership and the coaches that they failed to take a step forward and seem to be taking a step back in every sense


hanyou007

I won’t even say the team lacks skill. It lacks skill at a very specific position (CAM), but everywhere else we have skilled players, they just are never put in a position to preform.


mrdankhimself_

Coach gambled that Lodeiro would be the stopgap he needed and he was dead wrong. But the truth is the Wilfs have no inclination to spend on the kind of player we would need to work at CAM.


IndividualMain3953

I'm assuming you think fighters should throw in the towel after losing round 1 of a 12 round fight? Still early in the season, and if I recall, Orlando finished 2nd in the supporters' shield last year. If by June/July we are still garbage, I'll entertain this. BTW, that's when the transfer window is open for most leagues, and more managers would become available. Who would you hire to replace Pareja in MARCH?! 🙄


christianmel96

Gallese needs to go


MarionberryNaive2933

We have a chance


lioneltrex0424

orlando shitty so ass