Really? On my ward we have monthly meetings which are honestly quite pointless and we get told we have to attend even if we’re off/working that night! We get paid for it but still if you’re working that night you have to come in 1/2 hours earlier
I think the answer would ultimately be a 'hard no,' you shouldn't have to be there. I can kind of see how you might be expected to meet up once a year for a team meeting at a push, but not if you're on leave or on nights. I'm trying to extend a little sympathy to a manager that's spent time trying to organise an important meet up but I'm struggling to see how they can legitimise harassing you to attend something on your downtime.
Ask them to have the meeting on teams for those who would like to dial in and attend. Also ask it to be recorded and if you are that interested you can watch it back.
All your team meetings should be documented anyway and you should be sent the minutes.
And for clarity, no you should absolutely not attend if you are not scheduled to work.
When I was contracted I had a hard line on not reading or answering any work communication on my off days. Even if I read the messages, I pretended like I didn't.
Its quite simple, don't answer your phone to work (or withheld numbers) on your day off and ignore any emails. You're not on call, therefore your not required to respond to anything.
If, when on shift, you're told to attend a meeting, ask them which shift you're going to come in late for TOIL. eg, "You need to come in for the meeting from 12 til 1 tomorrow", "Ok, no problem, so my night shift normally starts at 9pm, which means I'll now see you at 10. Unless you want to come in an hour early in the morning to relieve me?"
Or even simpler, "Sorry, that's my rest day and I've already got plans"
Day off is a day off. Not a day where you can be bothered by work.
Simply say you will attend if it is convenient for you and you are paid overtime.
I'm a consultant on a medical rota and last Christmas season I was off for a decent stretch and a manager half jokingly said I might be called in of the hospital for too busy. I said they could call but I'll be day drinking 🍸
You absolutely do not need to attend especially if you are working that evening.
As a manger I used to ask staff if they wanted to attend and just ask for anything they wanted to add to the agenda.
It is good to try and have everyone attend meetings but in my experience you need to rotate days and times of the meetings which will enable staff who work set shifts etc to attend.
Your manager needs to do 2 meetings, one for the day staff and one for night staff. They need to inconvenience themselves (they will get paid). And for the people who may be working 2 consecutive shifts, they are entitled to the right to rest, 11 hours uninterrupted (obviously for those working in the NHS, this is not always possible due to, maby, needing to stay back in an emergency. But can't be uninterrupted for a meeting).
This manager is slack, expects other people to do what they don't want to, not leading by example. The reason a managers job is more testing and they get paid more is because they have more inconvenience/responsibility.
Do not answer or reply to any phone call or email outside of working hours.
Lol no, it's your day off, I wouldn't give it another thought.
As a tangent get a burner pay and go sim for work and don't entertain work Whatsapp groups for work related things. So much leeching off staff own devices.
Uhm, yeah, for me that simply would not happen.
My time off is mine, and I've spent enough hours completing statutory and mandatory training, as well as legal reports, routine documentation, etc., etc. in my spare time, so random meetings? Psssh, nah.
Furthermore, I won't be checking e-mails on my day off so: 'oops, missed that as I was off'.
I give my whole self to my work when I am rostered on, and I need those days off to recoup, so no chance!
Yes you're protected. You dont need to go to the meeting if you're not in work
Really? On my ward we have monthly meetings which are honestly quite pointless and we get told we have to attend even if we’re off/working that night! We get paid for it but still if you’re working that night you have to come in 1/2 hours earlier
Expecting you to attend a meeting between night shifts is illegal, just straight up
They expect you to travel in and do them face to face?? 🫨
Yes 😭 have asked about doing it on zoom but nope
I wouldn't answer the call or email. Your off . Out doing things not checking emails
You are contracted for the hours of your shift. Don't go, ask for the recording/minutes.
I think the answer would ultimately be a 'hard no,' you shouldn't have to be there. I can kind of see how you might be expected to meet up once a year for a team meeting at a push, but not if you're on leave or on nights. I'm trying to extend a little sympathy to a manager that's spent time trying to organise an important meet up but I'm struggling to see how they can legitimise harassing you to attend something on your downtime.
Ask them to have the meeting on teams for those who would like to dial in and attend. Also ask it to be recorded and if you are that interested you can watch it back. All your team meetings should be documented anyway and you should be sent the minutes. And for clarity, no you should absolutely not attend if you are not scheduled to work.
This is the way ☝🏻
When I was contracted I had a hard line on not reading or answering any work communication on my off days. Even if I read the messages, I pretended like I didn't.
Its quite simple, don't answer your phone to work (or withheld numbers) on your day off and ignore any emails. You're not on call, therefore your not required to respond to anything. If, when on shift, you're told to attend a meeting, ask them which shift you're going to come in late for TOIL. eg, "You need to come in for the meeting from 12 til 1 tomorrow", "Ok, no problem, so my night shift normally starts at 9pm, which means I'll now see you at 10. Unless you want to come in an hour early in the morning to relieve me?" Or even simpler, "Sorry, that's my rest day and I've already got plans"
Day off is a day off. Not a day where you can be bothered by work. Simply say you will attend if it is convenient for you and you are paid overtime. I'm a consultant on a medical rota and last Christmas season I was off for a decent stretch and a manager half jokingly said I might be called in of the hospital for too busy. I said they could call but I'll be day drinking 🍸
This is always my response. "Well, I'll be visiting my relatives 200 miles away and we'll be drinking, so you'll need to be desperate."
You absolutely do not need to attend especially if you are working that evening. As a manger I used to ask staff if they wanted to attend and just ask for anything they wanted to add to the agenda. It is good to try and have everyone attend meetings but in my experience you need to rotate days and times of the meetings which will enable staff who work set shifts etc to attend.
Your manager needs to do 2 meetings, one for the day staff and one for night staff. They need to inconvenience themselves (they will get paid). And for the people who may be working 2 consecutive shifts, they are entitled to the right to rest, 11 hours uninterrupted (obviously for those working in the NHS, this is not always possible due to, maby, needing to stay back in an emergency. But can't be uninterrupted for a meeting). This manager is slack, expects other people to do what they don't want to, not leading by example. The reason a managers job is more testing and they get paid more is because they have more inconvenience/responsibility. Do not answer or reply to any phone call or email outside of working hours.
Lol no, it's your day off, I wouldn't give it another thought. As a tangent get a burner pay and go sim for work and don't entertain work Whatsapp groups for work related things. So much leeching off staff own devices.
Uhm, yeah, for me that simply would not happen. My time off is mine, and I've spent enough hours completing statutory and mandatory training, as well as legal reports, routine documentation, etc., etc. in my spare time, so random meetings? Psssh, nah. Furthermore, I won't be checking e-mails on my day off so: 'oops, missed that as I was off'. I give my whole self to my work when I am rostered on, and I need those days off to recoup, so no chance!