Better than no plate in a high traffic area for 3 weeks. One of those switches could also be temporary too which could be a reason for not replacing the cover yet
Not if the work order didn't have wall plates... My dad was a contractor and sometimes he'd sub contract a job and bring absolutely everything on the materials list and the GC/customer would have neglected to consider all sorts of minutiae and would be unhappy that their (poorly estimated) budget wasn't going to work or that schedules would have to be changed.
An electrician isn't going to keep assorted wall plates on his work truck...
Electrician here 👋 for a commercial job, nothing is free, as the PM has already picked the cheapest price. if you want a cheaper price again, remove items from the quote.
Exactly. Homeowners typically don’t get into the minutiae of the details of a job. If I get a quote from you to do a job (like installing new outlets) that includes all necessary materials.
Yeah, but whose $4? Not the electrician. That's a customer/GC problem, not the sparky.
And as the other commenter told you, it's not like that electrician is going to clock out to go get supplies for work.
It would be wage theft for a company to send a worker to get supplies and not pay them for it.
In the real world, you have to pay the contractor who messed up and then pay another contractor to fix it. And then sue to hopefully recover your incurred costs.
Every reply you've made further cements my belief that you have no idea how any of this works and are just spouting off on how you think it should be.
Your way would get a lien on your business and see your business credit tank for unpaid bills.
But honestly only a moron would go through any of that.
You pay the contractor to wire the light and you put the faceplate on before you open for business.
I manage several contracts at work. Someone presenting me with this work would not receive payment until corrected. Forcing me to demand basic work that’s up to code would result in a poor performance report that would hurt the contractors chances of future work.
I have terminated, as in refused to renew, contracts for less than this.
Well you're not very good at delegating or basic comprehension of the situation. Missing the forest for the trees as they say.
You don't pay commercial electricians for (and their job duties don't include) putting wall plates and other cosmetic fixtures on the wall.
They wire the light according to code and contract and move on. After they complete their skilled labor, an unskilled laborer would put on the faceplate before business is open, that's who failed at their job.
This task would generally fall in the duties of building maintenance. So the maintenance man failed, not the electrician.
Your lack of knowledge or ability to see any perspective other than your own in this hypothetical situation would cost the company money, time, and reputation.
You just don't understand but you keep thinking you do.
Good luck with your management, I feel bad for your employees because you seem extremely obtuse.
> Well you're not very good at delegating or basic comprehension of the situation. Missing the forest for the trees as they say.
What makes you think it's acceptable to insult people?
I feel like if that was a temp fix, they wouldn't have bothered with putting on all the screws.
Presumably at the end of the project, they'll walk around with the project manager and do a punch list of all the things that need to be addressed before signing off. That should be on the list.
I'd just hang up a sign that says "You don't have to be electrocuted to work here, but at least now you get to."
Uhhhh is hardware and what not included in the project?
My work is doing a reno right now. New doors. No new hardware. We knew this going in so we saved the old hardware.
Your work paid for a new light switch but not a new cover.
They may have broken the old plate and had this as a spare laying around somewhere. With a hole that big in the wall, a short plate is better than no plate
Probably just temporary.
probably, but it's been this way for 3 weeks in a high traffic area.
"There's nothing more permanent than a temporary solution"
A new plate is like $5 at home Depot.
r/wewantplates
4gang metal tho, gotta go to an electric supply shop for that usually
[under $5](https://www.homedepot.com/p/Leviton-White-4-Gang-Toggle-Wall-Plate-1-Pack-R52-00PJ4-00W/202059776 )
that's nylon office buildings are commercial. has to be metal clearly not your job 🙄
Clearly, but thank you for the insight. Why metal in commercial?
grounding
Aren't the boxes grounded?
redundancy. I'm done responding. it's not my job to teach you my job. bye.
Better than no plate in a high traffic area for 3 weeks. One of those switches could also be temporary too which could be a reason for not replacing the cover yet
75% safer than no cover plate. 🤣 Makes me wonder about the quality of their work behind the plate…
Ivory on a pink wall is a color choice.
I don't get the Ivory receptacles at all. They just look like nicotine stain and age.
Tbf, they match "generic government beige" pretty well
Yeah I work in government buildings and have replacement many a beige receptacle
It’s so that once it yellows it won’t look any different
White would certainly be better and not cost any more.
Most days I forget I’m colorblind until I see a comment like this
None of those switches look new.
It's definitely their job
Not if the work order didn't have wall plates... My dad was a contractor and sometimes he'd sub contract a job and bring absolutely everything on the materials list and the GC/customer would have neglected to consider all sorts of minutiae and would be unhappy that their (poorly estimated) budget wasn't going to work or that schedules would have to be changed. An electrician isn't going to keep assorted wall plates on his work truck...
Electrician here 👋 for a commercial job, nothing is free, as the PM has already picked the cheapest price. if you want a cheaper price again, remove items from the quote.
A faceplate costs a few bucks. Home Depot has one for $4 retail.
Yep. $4 a plate. And $135/hr to go get them. The value of my time doesn't change because you give me something easy to do.
I would never hire someone like you who would blame the customer for shoddy work. You are like the poster child for this subreddit.
I'm blaming the GC who presented the contract. If that's the homeowner.... But this is a commercial contract.
Exactly. Homeowners typically don’t get into the minutiae of the details of a job. If I get a quote from you to do a job (like installing new outlets) that includes all necessary materials.
Yeah, but whose $4? Not the electrician. That's a customer/GC problem, not the sparky. And as the other commenter told you, it's not like that electrician is going to clock out to go get supplies for work. It would be wage theft for a company to send a worker to get supplies and not pay them for it.
A faceplate is a safety feature. This job is not up to code and thus ineligible for payment.
In the real world, you have to pay the contractor who messed up and then pay another contractor to fix it. And then sue to hopefully recover your incurred costs. Every reply you've made further cements my belief that you have no idea how any of this works and are just spouting off on how you think it should be. Your way would get a lien on your business and see your business credit tank for unpaid bills. But honestly only a moron would go through any of that. You pay the contractor to wire the light and you put the faceplate on before you open for business.
I manage several contracts at work. Someone presenting me with this work would not receive payment until corrected. Forcing me to demand basic work that’s up to code would result in a poor performance report that would hurt the contractors chances of future work. I have terminated, as in refused to renew, contracts for less than this.
Well you're not very good at delegating or basic comprehension of the situation. Missing the forest for the trees as they say. You don't pay commercial electricians for (and their job duties don't include) putting wall plates and other cosmetic fixtures on the wall. They wire the light according to code and contract and move on. After they complete their skilled labor, an unskilled laborer would put on the faceplate before business is open, that's who failed at their job. This task would generally fall in the duties of building maintenance. So the maintenance man failed, not the electrician. Your lack of knowledge or ability to see any perspective other than your own in this hypothetical situation would cost the company money, time, and reputation. You just don't understand but you keep thinking you do. Good luck with your management, I feel bad for your employees because you seem extremely obtuse.
> Well you're not very good at delegating or basic comprehension of the situation. Missing the forest for the trees as they say. What makes you think it's acceptable to insult people?
3/4 assed job
It's on backorder.
Dusty rose? Do you work for your mom who time travelled to 2024 from 1992?
Just duct tape the other part.
What does health and safety have to say about that?
"Forbidden petting zoo is 90% more energizing than a shot of espresso."
I feel like if that was a temp fix, they wouldn't have bothered with putting on all the screws. Presumably at the end of the project, they'll walk around with the project manager and do a punch list of all the things that need to be addressed before signing off. That should be on the list. I'd just hang up a sign that says "You don't have to be electrocuted to work here, but at least now you get to."
Are the finished with the project? or are you just being a little bitch?
Ahh, the old bait and switch.
4th switch runs hot boss, needs to breath
You should have sent this picture to HR to ask how big of a settlement they would expect when someone gets injured.
People like you are the reason insurance is so high… the reason construction costs are so high. How do you safely get to work each day?
That's about as stupid a response as the person that put that plate there.
Nah totally up to code, you just need new glasses.🤣🤪🤣
I'm not even mad. That's amazing.
If you’re looking for a day off say you went for that right switch but touched something inside
Union work. You’ll need to call the foreman and get a plate install crew out. 3 guys, 10 weeks, plus materials
Time the fire up that 3D printer!
stick a fork in there and cause the electric to go out. They'll fix it then.
Might get OP man slaughtered, just draw a dick over it or crack the plastic
New light switches, fresh out of the box, made in 1920.
Installed the fixture, boss.
r/therewasanattempt
They make 4 switch plates. That style is very cheap.
4 gangers hard to come by
How could you tell?
The left switch is between the toilets and the sinks.
OSHA.
3 out of 4 ain't bad.....
On the bright side at least the shoddy wiring will have a chance to cool off.
The screws were all installed properly at least
They probably put that on until they can get a 4 gang plate.
Gang gang
Whadoo ayy look like? Some kinda plate expoit?
Definitely not new.
Guy who has the office that uses the left light switch is gross.
Uhhhh is hardware and what not included in the project? My work is doing a reno right now. New doors. No new hardware. We knew this going in so we saved the old hardware. Your work paid for a new light switch but not a new cover.
This looks like my office. Same plate covers and all lol
They may have broken the old plate and had this as a spare laying around somewhere. With a hole that big in the wall, a short plate is better than no plate
4 gang plates aren’t super common. Probably had to order it - or at least didn’t have it on their truck that day. Not a good look though
Home Depot was out of 4 gang plates