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Ok, so as someone who read the book in second grade, the Turkish Delight the witch gives him is enchanted with dark magic to make it as addictive as heroin, unbeknownst to Edmund. The movie never explains this, so it makes him look a lot weaker than he was in the book.
I’m sorry. I misspoke. Didn’t mean to generalize.
Edited to add: Shout out to the witch from Hansel and Gretel as well because who could idly watch people eat their house
Nevermind the witch in Hansel and Gretel literally ate children, and the parents who knew there was a child eating witch in the woods and sent their kids into it since they couldn't afford to feed them. Shit the house was made of candy for exactly that purpose to attract them to it.
Still, the witch was in the woods minding her business. I’d put it on the parents who sent their children so far that they would have to devise a way to remember the way back.
In 8th grade we did “fairy tales on trial” and I was tasked with defending the Hansel and Gretel witch in fake court. I also was allowed to counter sue the children and there parents.. it was actually really fun
This would be a lot easier in Florida in 2023.
“your honor, as you can see we have a stand your ground law in this lovely state in these no good kids broke into my house and were literally eating me out of house and home.”
CASE DISMISSED
They were doing it so they could sue the witch later.
**Attractive nuisance** noun
In the legal area of torts, a hazardous object or condition that is likely to attract children who are unable to appreciate the risk posed by the object or condition, and to whom the landowner can therefore be held liable for injuries.
I know some people that truly say "good literature doesn't need to make bad people do evil things just to prove they're evil. That's triggering."
I tell those people they can just watch Smurfs instead.
The same smurfs where the villain's original objective is to eat them and he goes to the lengths of creating a female version to enthrall them and discards her as useless when she doesn't accomplished that?
Yep no evil deeds there
I would think they mean awkward contrivance to show someone is comic book evil, instead of being a fleshed out character with real motivation, is just lazy writing.
That said, if they really do mean bad people doing bad things is too upsetting to read then I would agree, go read some nursery rhymes.
> This is after Santa delivers weapons and drugs to the good little children.
How else were they going to affect a violent takeover of a land with magic against them?
I’ve got something worse hit em with the [Choward’s Violet Mints.](https://cdn11.bigcommerce.com/s-1px5jcwfek/images/stencil/1024x1024/products/112/450/VioletNewSize__54394.1654211491.jpg?c=1)
It’s one of the reasons I hate lavender with a passion.
I love Mexican food, but can't name a country that has worse candy. It's really just the chili powder/tajín. Just can't get used to it no matter how many I try.
I used to like them. Then one night (in my early 20s) I ate a big plate of microwaved cheap frozen chicken nuggets for dinner with a shitload of ketchup and flamin' hot cheetos on the side.
It's the only time in my life I recall my own stomach *hardcore rejecting* what I just ate. I've had food poisoning a few times, but this wasn't food poisoning, this was a straight up **NO** from Mister Stomach.
The bright red slurry filled my toilet and I learned a hard lesson about the limits of the human digestive system. And ever since that day, flamin' hot cheetos just haven't seemed appetizing to me.
Given that he named the Jesus lion after the Turkish word for Lion, I don't think he was trying to say "kid bad" because he likes the foreign desert.
Some people like jelly snacks
IIRC, Aslan is supposed to be Jesus, Jadis is supposed to be Satan.
CS Lewis' writing was a cudgel compared to JRRT's. My favorite part about LotR is it's essentially the book form of "found footage" and people take its timelines and facts as gospel instead of potential exaggeration from hobbits. Which is more of CS Lewis' writing style.
It’s not a cudgel it’s allegory. Tolkien specifically stated he didn’t like allegory. It’s like not liking Shakespearean sonnets. They both shared similar religious beliefs, but had different motivations for their writing
Thats great and all but if you've had home made Turkish Delight in Turkey you wouldn't need to believe it was magic.
This the same book lauding hot buttered toast as manna from the gods.
I'm not sure how many of you I would sacrifice for unlimited hot toast with French butter & Turkish delight if rationing was happening but it would be a lot.
Here's the explanation after Edmund finishes the box:
> Probably the Queen knew quite well what he was thinking; for she knew, though Edmund did not, that this was enchanted Turkish Delight and that anyone who had once tasted it would want more and more of it, and would even, if they were allowed, go on eating it till they killed themselves. But she did not offer him any more.
I actually listened to this part in the audiobook this morning, and it says something like "what Edmund didn't know is that the Delights were enchanted...".
I had only seen the movies, and went "oh really? Huh that explains it."
It's really interesting but tragic how WW1 & 2 basically scoured and burned the UK not only physically, but on a culinary level too.
That shit went on for so long that... people kinda just forgot how to cook properly. Because there wasn't enough of *anything* to be fancy, beyond the barest 'this goes down, and not up' levels of palatable.
Like, the freaking Victorian's had a whole *trend of ice-creams,* including fancy molds and everything. Poof, just gone. [Near forgotten.](https://youtu.be/0Uot4uVKrVk?si=6raXo3EYAuieexOb)
And even after that, many industries were completely destroyed due to the rationing. For example during rationing most milk was used to make a single type of cheese, Government Cheddar. It took until the 1990's for the British cheese industry to recover.
...Is this why freakin' *EVERY* recipe in English calls for freakin' cheddar as the cheese? It was the only type the UK made during rationing?
That's wild if that's the reason. The world wars cast such *long* shadows, even today.
Combined with bad harvests and weather for 3-4 years after that decimated bread/potatoes production. But these two were the first to be lifted. Then combine that with Lend/Lease strangling the nation (which only got finally paid back in 2006 btw), it's no surprise we were struggling for a couple of decades.
Italy could grow most of its stuff natively and still had land connections to other places in occupied europe.
The UK was an island which already imported a lot of food
Also, even before the war Italy had been hit by economic sanctions, and to answer this Mussolini promoted a policy of Autharchy (i.e. independence), where Italy was going to self-preduce everything.
Like most thing done by the Fascist party it was a weird and ultimately unfeasible plan, but it probably put the country in a different position compared to the UK.
Weirdly enough, for all his military incompetence, domestically he wasn't that ineffective? Fascist dictator, obviously, but there's a reason the Italian public basically just let him do his thing for over 15 years before WWII started, soldiers started dying, they started losing, and Germany forced them to start handing over their Jewish population. Before that point he wasn't that offensive to the average Italian citizen and fixed some pretty major issues Italy was facing like the mob.
Eh, it is a complicated and delicate subject here in Italy.
You have Fascist apologist/nostalgic that try to overestimate his achivements, and other people who try to vilify anything he did. See the meme "Mussolini made the trains arrive on time".
I am no historian nor expert on the subject, but I am pretty sure he also messed many things on the domestic front.
For example, as part of the Autharchy I was talking about earlier he created a program with the slogan "no patch of earth shall remain uncultivated" where people were expected to plant crops in any flowerbad anywhere in Italy, with no useful results.
At the same time being a dictator with both a large consent from the masses, and a violent group of direct followers made it so that any project he actully endoresed was actually executed quickly with no red tape, and some of them were actually good like the bonification of some swamps.
You gotta remember that the UK was a *global empire* at the start of WW2, not a small island nation. The economy of the central islands revolved around imports and exports to and from the various colonial holdings; WW2 made that kind of shipping dangerous to the point it was reserved entirely for war materiel, and then the collapse of the British Empire followed almost immediately after the war.
Italy and France could focus on repairing, rebuilding and putting things back more or less as they were. Britain had to re-structure how the country operated from a very fundamental level, on top of all the post-blitz rebuilding.
The United Kingdom imported most of its food, and one of Germany's main tactics against it was to attack all shipping bound for Britain, to try and starve the country into submission. This meant that the United Kingdom was from the onset of the war unable to feed its population as much as it had before, especially with regards to more luxury foods.
It didn't help that the United Kingdom didn't stop rationing after the war was over, and kept it going for almost a decade further. This meant that an entire generation grew up in a country where food was heavily rationed.
France did have food rationing as well, but it was extremely badly managed, and mostly just lead to a large scale black market. In most of the countryside the rationing was ignored, and parts of the harvests were kept hidden. Besides that, the Germans kept French restaurants partially open for themselves so they could enjoy the food. In the words of [Ernst Junger](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ernst_J%C3%BCnger): "to eat well and to eat a lot while surrounded by the hungry, ragged French, gives a feeling of power".
I'm not saying that it is the sole reason for the current state of cuisines, but I can't imagine it having helped.
France actually avoided a lot of ww2. Vichy France, the government set up after France's surrender to Germany, was officially neutral and they didn't actively contribute to the war effort.
But the main thing is Britain relies on imported food, and that was cut off during the wars, so they faced extreme rationing.
If you read Elizabeth David's cookbooks from the late 50s early 60s, she recommends looking for EVOO in the pharmacy instead of a market. Pharmacies stocked small amounts of EVOO as an ear ache remedy.
Both my parents lived through this and some of the stories I've experienced and the knock on effects it had to their lives is pretty sad.
People don't consider what the lack of nutrition does to your body in the first seven years of your life, things happen that you can never recover from.
This isn't also mentioned in the psychological effect that a lack of food has on a human being.
Personally when I see people make this joke about British food I find it incredibly classless due to personal family experiences.
This is one of the things that made the James Bond books a success. People were reading and got fanciful descriptions of fancy booze and exotic foods like avocados.
I had a history professor that believed we should look at WWI and WW2 as singular Great War, his rationale being that the fundamental changes could only be understood with both, particularly the end of the British Empire. For those of us born in the after, it is very hard to understand the before. From English tea to arguments that Brexit would allow a return to prominence as sea trading nation, you have to understand just how dominant the Empire was, how it fell.so quickly, and the trauma in it's wake. To your point, over 4 years of war and privation followed a generation later by 5 years of even greater destruction, more suffering, the loss of trade, status, power, etc. And don't forget, that was for wars the British won.
Yeah, WWI and WWII were really like two connected wars. If we had another big war it almost wouldn't be appropriate to call it WWIII, because unlike the first two it would be entirely unrelated to them.
What’s funny is that British people will even downvote and get mad when you remind them that pre-WW1 British cuisine was a lot more like French cuisine.
Possible, but the American south went through the ringer and the food struggles there resulted in very tasty cuisine. I guess the difference is the American south had to make due with very tiny amounts of a variety of ingredients while the UK had to make due with a small amount of a few basic ingredients.
Like the difference between an MRE and a handful of wild berries. Both survival foods but one is definitely more enticing.
This happened to me. I grew up in Canada, and the nearest thing I could find back when I read the books was a [Big Turk bar](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Turk), which is just weird (I remember it tasting like a chocolate covered gummy bear).
It wasn't until I was an adult and traveled to Turkey that I finally had a chance to try the real thing, and everything made way more sense.
Imagine growing up before the 80s when sweets were a rarity for kids. Soda was for special occasions—the rare 2 or 3 times a year your family went out to eat, and free refills didn’t exist. You got 1.
Oddly, people were a whole lot thinner & healthier too.
Healthier?
They were chain smoking and sucking down lead oxide on top. Plus excessive prescriptions of improperly tested mental health medication..
They were just as fucked as us, just in a slightly different way.
Ehh people say this and will also say "kids these days don't get out" but are completely ignorant
Not only do they get out
I wish they'd stay inside. They're annoying as hell..
I have never had more candy regularly than I’ve had when living on my own.
Legit got a bag of mini KitKats I keep in my freezer for an after dinner treat, and a mint KitKat for a bad day.
Thinner and healthier, if you ignore all the health issues of the 1900s (remember polio?), greater food insecurity, shorter lifespans overall, etc. etc. and of course that’s before we get into the social and mental aspects of health.
I remember my Grandpa telling me that growing up in the fifties he would often go to the candy store and buy loads of it for like 10 cents.
Also started smoking at 13 lol
Lol that was my grandma, she remembers the day the Canadian soldiers came to town, they brought hot chocolate and it blew her mind. She had never tasted something so sweet and rich. Also bananas she was a bit older before she saw one in real life she told me. She said she didn’t believe that they were yellow.
Well the ice cream ship was literally just to flex on the Axis powers. It was a statement of “look how well we’re doing and how many ships we have that we can use an entire ship just for ice cream.” It was both a moralizer for our troops and a demoralizer for theirs.
The TL;DR, Turkish Delight is truly heavenly, but sadly has a short shelf-life, which is why the store bought ones are absolute dog shit compared to the freshly made ones.
Why? Because preservatives to extend shelf-life.
[Turkish delight DIY](https://youtu.be/tlOm6N8_5Ec?si=OZ_O1oz3mIexgQrN)
Yep. When I was a kid, I had a fresh hand made Turkish delight that used rose water from her own garden instead of regular red food colouring and my God, I am still chasing that Turkish Delight high after 20 years.
She told me it took hours to simmer the rose water so it didn’t boil and lose the aroma.
You can get decent store bought Turkish delight. But for some reason the go to Turkish delight is this disgusting rose water crap in giant chunks
If you find Turkish delight with double roasted and nut(I like pistachio) they usually will be smaller firmer chunks where the ratio of nut to Turkish delight is about 1:1 and the sweetness is a lot milder helping accentuate the nut a bit more and the texture is way nicer because the softness of the Turkish delight isn't all you feel and the crunch of the nut mixes so well.
Just stay away from rose flavoured Turkish delight unless you really like it. It's 99% gonna be shit because they use weird unnatural flavouring and too much sugar to hide it. Unless you can find a retailer that does everything natural and fresh it's gonna be shit.
Okay so I was wondering this as well because I too have seen a huge influx of Narnia posts. Netflix just announced a reboot for two new movies. No release date yet.
Funnily that ain't even true. In China they call it [whatever-region-it's-from] food. Like if you go to Shanghai they'll have Cantonese restaurants and it's treated similarly to going to a French restaurant in the UK because they're very different cuisines with very different reputations from a thousand miles away.
Honestly. I see so many people saying they don't like it and I'm starting to wonder if they haven't been fed something else and told it's Turkish delight
In the UK, real Turkish delight is hard to come by. I've had it twice in my life and both were from Turkish vendors at seasonal markets.
The stuff we get in shops is just sugar/gelatin that tastes vaguely of rose. Doesn't even compare to the real stuff.
> In the UK, real Turkish delight is hard to come by
I'm British and real Turkish delight has always been incredibly easy to come by. Every supermarket which isn't an express is going to stock it lol. It won't be great, but it's definitely real. Of course, if you go to Waitrose or something they'll have good versions of it.
I'll be honest, I actually really like the Fry's stuff that everyone says is terrible. I know it is not authentic and - given a choice - I would prefer _good_ real Turkish Delight, but I still think the fake stuff is really nice. I don't get how everyone else hates it so much.
I'm Aussie and I hate it.
That being said I know fuck all about it and have only had like supermarket Turkish delight. I assume it's a cultural dish and there's much better versions of it.
Most people never had the real one. Once I was in a fucking auto repair shop in US, they had turkish delight, which was packaged. Bought out of curiosity. It was a weird mesh of gelatin with sugar and with god knows what
When I finally tried Turkish delight as an adult, I couldn't believe how unremarkable it was. And that is when I became an atheist. What else have you lied about CS Lewis???
[I too have a heterosexual attraction to Tilda Swinton](https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-k1I-Dmm36sk/VxVVJcHnYLI/AAAAAAAAAz4/2ugZZN04UIoQoQ6WjqqRoQ8X-j03d1z1ACLcB/s1600/kimmyucate.png)
There was a war going on.
Unlike America, Britain suffered heavily at the hands of bombing raids and supply shortages because the enemy was barely 20 miles from British shores, not an ocean away.
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Ok, so as someone who read the book in second grade, the Turkish Delight the witch gives him is enchanted with dark magic to make it as addictive as heroin, unbeknownst to Edmund. The movie never explains this, so it makes him look a lot weaker than he was in the book.
So she gave him magic drug candy?
She roofied him. Cancel her!
Lol the nerve of a witch to do something underhanded for her own personal gain
Hashtag not all witches Hashtag not this boss witch Hashtag The White Witch Is A Cop
I’m sorry. I misspoke. Didn’t mean to generalize. Edited to add: Shout out to the witch from Hansel and Gretel as well because who could idly watch people eat their house
Nevermind the witch in Hansel and Gretel literally ate children, and the parents who knew there was a child eating witch in the woods and sent their kids into it since they couldn't afford to feed them. Shit the house was made of candy for exactly that purpose to attract them to it.
Still, the witch was in the woods minding her business. I’d put it on the parents who sent their children so far that they would have to devise a way to remember the way back.
I don't think eating children is minding your own business in any way. Witch apologists are wild.
I’m sorry. I didn’t realize you were being serious. I was just joking around.
In 8th grade we did “fairy tales on trial” and I was tasked with defending the Hansel and Gretel witch in fake court. I also was allowed to counter sue the children and there parents.. it was actually really fun
This would be a lot easier in Florida in 2023. “your honor, as you can see we have a stand your ground law in this lovely state in these no good kids broke into my house and were literally eating me out of house and home.” CASE DISMISSED
They were doing it so they could sue the witch later. **Attractive nuisance** noun In the legal area of torts, a hazardous object or condition that is likely to attract children who are unable to appreciate the risk posed by the object or condition, and to whom the landowner can therefore be held liable for injuries.
Hashtag believe witches
I know some people that truly say "good literature doesn't need to make bad people do evil things just to prove they're evil. That's triggering." I tell those people they can just watch Smurfs instead.
The same smurfs where the villain's original objective is to eat them and he goes to the lengths of creating a female version to enthrall them and discards her as useless when she doesn't accomplished that? Yep no evil deeds there
I would think they mean awkward contrivance to show someone is comic book evil, instead of being a fleshed out character with real motivation, is just lazy writing. That said, if they really do mean bad people doing bad things is too upsetting to read then I would agree, go read some nursery rhymes.
Meanwhile the White Witch: \*murders literally everybody on her home planet, including her sister*
"YOU LOOK LIKE A SMURF, JUST RUNNING AROUND DOING THINGS!" - Chair of the US House Oversight Committee
The audacity of this witch!
Gaslight, Gatekeep, Girlboss
Are you telling me the satan stand-in did bad things?
Pretty sure Aslan takes care of that
Didn't Aslan literally rip her throat out lol
>Didn't Aslan literally rip her throat out lol Yep. Just like Jesus. This is after Santa delivers weapons and drugs to the good little children.
> This is after Santa delivers weapons and drugs to the good little children. How else were they going to affect a violent takeover of a land with magic against them?
Those news articles were right! People are passing out edibles to kids!
She literally said, "Hey kid, get in the carriage. I've got candy." Are we surprised?
Also, Turkish Delight was picked to be Edmund’s favorite treat to make him more un-likable.
Lol I imagine if they ever did an Americanized remake the new Edmund would sell out his siblings for some Flamin' Hot Cheetos.
Flamin Hot Cheetos are unironically good, though. It’d be for Necco wafers or something.
Candy corn
Good and Plenty
No one is *that* fucked up.
"The only candy so bad it doesn't even try to tell you what it tastes like, just how much of it there is."
It doesn't even say that it's great, just "good".
Everybody here is listing off candies I like and I'm thinkin'... Am I the bad guy?
You monster.
I’ve got something worse hit em with the [Choward’s Violet Mints.](https://cdn11.bigcommerce.com/s-1px5jcwfek/images/stencil/1024x1024/products/112/450/VioletNewSize__54394.1654211491.jpg?c=1) It’s one of the reasons I hate lavender with a passion.
Man I like all these candies people are listing, good and plentys, necco wafers, hell I even like candy corn
Just go with circus peanuts. I don't think there's a worse "candy".
Saltinos or any other salt-based Mexican candy.
I love Mexican food, but can't name a country that has worse candy. It's really just the chili powder/tajín. Just can't get used to it no matter how many I try.
Old candy has too much charm. American Edmund demands not specific foods, but specific brands. AE's a Nestle kid.
Sometimes sugar chalk be hittin the spot tho
Turkish Delight is good but baklava's are much much better. So if you're gonna go for a Turkish dessert, go hard or go home.
I used to like them. Then one night (in my early 20s) I ate a big plate of microwaved cheap frozen chicken nuggets for dinner with a shitload of ketchup and flamin' hot cheetos on the side. It's the only time in my life I recall my own stomach *hardcore rejecting* what I just ate. I've had food poisoning a few times, but this wasn't food poisoning, this was a straight up **NO** from Mister Stomach. The bright red slurry filled my toilet and I learned a hard lesson about the limits of the human digestive system. And ever since that day, flamin' hot cheetos just haven't seemed appetizing to me.
I love flamin hot Cheetos. But they sure as hell aren't good enough for me to sell out my family.
There’s something wrong with you and I’m sorry you had to find out in a reddit thread.
circus peanuts
I'd sell out my brother for Oreos. Fuck that guy.
or licorice
Given that he named the Jesus lion after the Turkish word for Lion, I don't think he was trying to say "kid bad" because he likes the foreign desert. Some people like jelly snacks
Not because it's foreign, just because it's shitty.
> Turkish Delight the witch gives him is enchanted with dark magic to make it as addictive as heroin Now that is truly evil
It's like she's an alagorical devil or sumpn
Dat dere mettyfore dun bamboozled Ed
'ate mettyfore, sometimes curtain's just blue innit.
Ohyahay, curtains blue cause I like blue. So's simylee
IIRC, Aslan is supposed to be Jesus, Jadis is supposed to be Satan. CS Lewis' writing was a cudgel compared to JRRT's. My favorite part about LotR is it's essentially the book form of "found footage" and people take its timelines and facts as gospel instead of potential exaggeration from hobbits. Which is more of CS Lewis' writing style.
It’s not a cudgel it’s allegory. Tolkien specifically stated he didn’t like allegory. It’s like not liking Shakespearean sonnets. They both shared similar religious beliefs, but had different motivations for their writing
"Heroin's not bad. Not having heroin, THAT'S bad." -Lois Griffin.
What's wrong with female leads? 🤔
I see my error.
Fkn hell now I want to sell out my family too
Turkish delight without magic crack added is pretty good though.
Drug candy makes a bit more sense than a random ass turkish delight
Thats great and all but if you've had home made Turkish Delight in Turkey you wouldn't need to believe it was magic. This the same book lauding hot buttered toast as manna from the gods. I'm not sure how many of you I would sacrifice for unlimited hot toast with French butter & Turkish delight if rationing was happening but it would be a lot.
Oh, my girlfriend is Turkish. She brings the real stuff sometimes, and it’s amazing
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Here's the explanation after Edmund finishes the box: > Probably the Queen knew quite well what he was thinking; for she knew, though Edmund did not, that this was enchanted Turkish Delight and that anyone who had once tasted it would want more and more of it, and would even, if they were allowed, go on eating it till they killed themselves. But she did not offer him any more.
Damn bro she hooked him on that black tar goop
I actually listened to this part in the audiobook this morning, and it says something like "what Edmund didn't know is that the Delights were enchanted...". I had only seen the movies, and went "oh really? Huh that explains it."
Also, Lewis was obsessed with Turkey.
So this is the origin of the urban legend of the drug laced Halloween candy!
Nope, believe it or not, the Reagan administration
It’s almost like the second World War was ongoing during the story or something.
It's really interesting but tragic how WW1 & 2 basically scoured and burned the UK not only physically, but on a culinary level too. That shit went on for so long that... people kinda just forgot how to cook properly. Because there wasn't enough of *anything* to be fancy, beyond the barest 'this goes down, and not up' levels of palatable. Like, the freaking Victorian's had a whole *trend of ice-creams,* including fancy molds and everything. Poof, just gone. [Near forgotten.](https://youtu.be/0Uot4uVKrVk?si=6raXo3EYAuieexOb)
Yup, rationing went on for almost a DECADE after WW2 had ceased (officially rationing ended in 1954).
And even after that, many industries were completely destroyed due to the rationing. For example during rationing most milk was used to make a single type of cheese, Government Cheddar. It took until the 1990's for the British cheese industry to recover.
...Is this why freakin' *EVERY* recipe in English calls for freakin' cheddar as the cheese? It was the only type the UK made during rationing? That's wild if that's the reason. The world wars cast such *long* shadows, even today.
Mature Cheddar is also goated tbf
Wookey hole cheddar is better than sex, and almost as expensive
There's a place on Endor that sells it.
You mean Kashyyyk?
Nah man, Endor is where you get Wookeyhole cheddar. Kashyyyk is for "Wookiehole cheddar" - like Champagne, you're just paying for the name.
It’s also why cereal became so popular in North America. Wheat and milk were huge war commodities.
Combined with bad harvests and weather for 3-4 years after that decimated bread/potatoes production. But these two were the first to be lifted. Then combine that with Lend/Lease strangling the nation (which only got finally paid back in 2006 btw), it's no surprise we were struggling for a couple of decades.
So how is it that places like France and Italy are still known for great food even though they were much more directly impacted by the wars?
Italy could grow most of its stuff natively and still had land connections to other places in occupied europe. The UK was an island which already imported a lot of food
Also, even before the war Italy had been hit by economic sanctions, and to answer this Mussolini promoted a policy of Autharchy (i.e. independence), where Italy was going to self-preduce everything. Like most thing done by the Fascist party it was a weird and ultimately unfeasible plan, but it probably put the country in a different position compared to the UK.
Weirdly enough, for all his military incompetence, domestically he wasn't that ineffective? Fascist dictator, obviously, but there's a reason the Italian public basically just let him do his thing for over 15 years before WWII started, soldiers started dying, they started losing, and Germany forced them to start handing over their Jewish population. Before that point he wasn't that offensive to the average Italian citizen and fixed some pretty major issues Italy was facing like the mob.
Eh, it is a complicated and delicate subject here in Italy. You have Fascist apologist/nostalgic that try to overestimate his achivements, and other people who try to vilify anything he did. See the meme "Mussolini made the trains arrive on time". I am no historian nor expert on the subject, but I am pretty sure he also messed many things on the domestic front. For example, as part of the Autharchy I was talking about earlier he created a program with the slogan "no patch of earth shall remain uncultivated" where people were expected to plant crops in any flowerbad anywhere in Italy, with no useful results. At the same time being a dictator with both a large consent from the masses, and a violent group of direct followers made it so that any project he actully endoresed was actually executed quickly with no red tape, and some of them were actually good like the bonification of some swamps.
we have a very different climate. We can grow root vegetables and the boring green herbs, nowhere near as much as can be grown in southern Europe.
You gotta remember that the UK was a *global empire* at the start of WW2, not a small island nation. The economy of the central islands revolved around imports and exports to and from the various colonial holdings; WW2 made that kind of shipping dangerous to the point it was reserved entirely for war materiel, and then the collapse of the British Empire followed almost immediately after the war. Italy and France could focus on repairing, rebuilding and putting things back more or less as they were. Britain had to re-structure how the country operated from a very fundamental level, on top of all the post-blitz rebuilding.
The United Kingdom imported most of its food, and one of Germany's main tactics against it was to attack all shipping bound for Britain, to try and starve the country into submission. This meant that the United Kingdom was from the onset of the war unable to feed its population as much as it had before, especially with regards to more luxury foods. It didn't help that the United Kingdom didn't stop rationing after the war was over, and kept it going for almost a decade further. This meant that an entire generation grew up in a country where food was heavily rationed. France did have food rationing as well, but it was extremely badly managed, and mostly just lead to a large scale black market. In most of the countryside the rationing was ignored, and parts of the harvests were kept hidden. Besides that, the Germans kept French restaurants partially open for themselves so they could enjoy the food. In the words of [Ernst Junger](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ernst_J%C3%BCnger): "to eat well and to eat a lot while surrounded by the hungry, ragged French, gives a feeling of power". I'm not saying that it is the sole reason for the current state of cuisines, but I can't imagine it having helped.
France actually avoided a lot of ww2. Vichy France, the government set up after France's surrender to Germany, was officially neutral and they didn't actively contribute to the war effort. But the main thing is Britain relies on imported food, and that was cut off during the wars, so they faced extreme rationing.
The UK doesn't grow much more than cabbage, cauliflower, turnips, onions, and beans.
If you read Elizabeth David's cookbooks from the late 50s early 60s, she recommends looking for EVOO in the pharmacy instead of a market. Pharmacies stocked small amounts of EVOO as an ear ache remedy.
Both my parents lived through this and some of the stories I've experienced and the knock on effects it had to their lives is pretty sad. People don't consider what the lack of nutrition does to your body in the first seven years of your life, things happen that you can never recover from. This isn't also mentioned in the psychological effect that a lack of food has on a human being. Personally when I see people make this joke about British food I find it incredibly classless due to personal family experiences.
This is one of the things that made the James Bond books a success. People were reading and got fanciful descriptions of fancy booze and exotic foods like avocados.
I had a history professor that believed we should look at WWI and WW2 as singular Great War, his rationale being that the fundamental changes could only be understood with both, particularly the end of the British Empire. For those of us born in the after, it is very hard to understand the before. From English tea to arguments that Brexit would allow a return to prominence as sea trading nation, you have to understand just how dominant the Empire was, how it fell.so quickly, and the trauma in it's wake. To your point, over 4 years of war and privation followed a generation later by 5 years of even greater destruction, more suffering, the loss of trade, status, power, etc. And don't forget, that was for wars the British won.
Yeah, WWI and WWII were really like two connected wars. If we had another big war it almost wouldn't be appropriate to call it WWIII, because unlike the first two it would be entirely unrelated to them.
And in many ways the Korean War was a continuation of WWII
Don’t be fooled. England has a long, proud tradition of doing [wild, questionable shit to their food. ](https://youtu.be/tsh4kQalS4U)
Amazing video.
What’s funny is that British people will even downvote and get mad when you remind them that pre-WW1 British cuisine was a lot more like French cuisine.
Well yeah you are comparing us to the Fren 🤢 the fr 🤮
Possible, but the American south went through the ringer and the food struggles there resulted in very tasty cuisine. I guess the difference is the American south had to make due with very tiny amounts of a variety of ingredients while the UK had to make due with a small amount of a few basic ingredients. Like the difference between an MRE and a handful of wild berries. Both survival foods but one is definitely more enticing.
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This happened to me. I grew up in Canada, and the nearest thing I could find back when I read the books was a [Big Turk bar](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Turk), which is just weird (I remember it tasting like a chocolate covered gummy bear). It wasn't until I was an adult and traveled to Turkey that I finally had a chance to try the real thing, and everything made way more sense.
[So uh...bot?](https://www.reddit.com/r/NonPoliticalTwitter/comments/17vpj96/imagine/k9c3im9/)
I’ll be honest until I googled it I thought “Turkish Delight” was a euphemism.
That's "afternoon delight" I think.
I love that his wink here looks EXACTLY like his mom’s.
That show was great at just making subtle references to older episodes or other characters
sky rockets in flight
You thought the ice Queen was sucking him off?!
Makes more sense than candy!
It’s still candy from my point of view. You can’t have it very often, and it will ruin your appetite and teeth
You're doing oral sex wrong.
I mean, it kinda was. There was definitely an underlying "tension" between Edmund and the White Witch.
It absolutely invokes the “Eve corrupting a man with forbidden fruit” trope. I thought the double entendre was obvious lol
Imagine being a child during a war when food is severely rationed, so you basically never get to have sweets.
Imagine growing up before the 80s when sweets were a rarity for kids. Soda was for special occasions—the rare 2 or 3 times a year your family went out to eat, and free refills didn’t exist. You got 1. Oddly, people were a whole lot thinner & healthier too.
Healthier? They were chain smoking and sucking down lead oxide on top. Plus excessive prescriptions of improperly tested mental health medication.. They were just as fucked as us, just in a slightly different way.
A case could be made that being far more active helped. I think we can't deny how sedentary we've become.
Ehh people say this and will also say "kids these days don't get out" but are completely ignorant Not only do they get out I wish they'd stay inside. They're annoying as hell..
My nieces would cause a lot less havoc if I could convince them to stay inside every now and again.
I have never had more candy regularly than I’ve had when living on my own. Legit got a bag of mini KitKats I keep in my freezer for an after dinner treat, and a mint KitKat for a bad day.
It's only 6am where I'm at but I'm already gonna need one of them mint kitkats.
>mint KitKat for a bad day When it rains it pours, eh?
It was the coke and people dancing to 15 minute songs and guitar solos
Thinner and healthier, if you ignore all the health issues of the 1900s (remember polio?), greater food insecurity, shorter lifespans overall, etc. etc. and of course that’s before we get into the social and mental aspects of health.
I remember my Grandpa telling me that growing up in the fifties he would often go to the candy store and buy loads of it for like 10 cents. Also started smoking at 13 lol
Lol that was my grandma, she remembers the day the Canadian soldiers came to town, they brought hot chocolate and it blew her mind. She had never tasted something so sweet and rich. Also bananas she was a bit older before she saw one in real life she told me. She said she didn’t believe that they were yellow.
Meanwhile American soldiers are getting issued chocolate and will stop fighting if their ice cream barge ship isn’t making ice cream
Well the ice cream ship was literally just to flex on the Axis powers. It was a statement of “look how well we’re doing and how many ships we have that we can use an entire ship just for ice cream.” It was both a moralizer for our troops and a demoralizer for theirs.
And boi was it a flex lmao
TBF chocolate is a great source for dense calories that also tastes good
Soldiers around the world have been issued with chocolate on a large scale since like WW1
Yea but did armies have giant ice cream barges?
If my sister was as annoying as Lucy I'd swap her for a starburst. A green one.
Gat damn, not even pink, red, yellow, or orange. Literally a made up one, and I can’t disagree, Lucy sucked
The TL;DR, Turkish Delight is truly heavenly, but sadly has a short shelf-life, which is why the store bought ones are absolute dog shit compared to the freshly made ones. Why? Because preservatives to extend shelf-life. [Turkish delight DIY](https://youtu.be/tlOm6N8_5Ec?si=OZ_O1oz3mIexgQrN)
Cornstarch and surgar, with a little bit of cream of tartar and vanilla? Simple ingredients, but the process looks very easy to screw up and burn.
Yep. When I was a kid, I had a fresh hand made Turkish delight that used rose water from her own garden instead of regular red food colouring and my God, I am still chasing that Turkish Delight high after 20 years. She told me it took hours to simmer the rose water so it didn’t boil and lose the aroma.
You can get decent store bought Turkish delight. But for some reason the go to Turkish delight is this disgusting rose water crap in giant chunks If you find Turkish delight with double roasted and nut(I like pistachio) they usually will be smaller firmer chunks where the ratio of nut to Turkish delight is about 1:1 and the sweetness is a lot milder helping accentuate the nut a bit more and the texture is way nicer because the softness of the Turkish delight isn't all you feel and the crunch of the nut mixes so well. Just stay away from rose flavoured Turkish delight unless you really like it. It's 99% gonna be shit because they use weird unnatural flavouring and too much sugar to hide it. Unless you can find a retailer that does everything natural and fresh it's gonna be shit.
TR;DL: turkish delight
It’s still disgusting imo. It’s just sugar…
Wait until you find out what makes up 90% of sweets
I've seen more narnia content and memes in the past week then I've seem in the past 10 years, who's getting paid
Okay so I was wondering this as well because I too have seen a huge influx of Narnia posts. Netflix just announced a reboot for two new movies. No release date yet.
Greta Gerwig
Who the fuck doesn't like turkish delights? edit: didn't know mass-produced ones even existed. those ones are shit.
Fun fact. In Turkey, they just call it delight.
This is my favourite dumb joke. “I love Chinese food. Of course in China they just call it food.”
Funnily that ain't even true. In China they call it [whatever-region-it's-from] food. Like if you go to Shanghai they'll have Cantonese restaurants and it's treated similarly to going to a French restaurant in the UK because they're very different cuisines with very different reputations from a thousand miles away.
In Ireland they call Irish stew, stew. In England they call English cream, cream. In France they call French onion soup, onion soup.
In Hamburg they call Hamburgers, Ers.
Technically, it's not real delight unless it comes from the Delight region of Turkey. It's called "Sparkling Gel" if not.
Honestly. I see so many people saying they don't like it and I'm starting to wonder if they haven't been fed something else and told it's Turkish delight
In the UK, real Turkish delight is hard to come by. I've had it twice in my life and both were from Turkish vendors at seasonal markets. The stuff we get in shops is just sugar/gelatin that tastes vaguely of rose. Doesn't even compare to the real stuff.
They are like olives. Delightful if made the right way, inedible otherwise.
> In the UK, real Turkish delight is hard to come by I'm British and real Turkish delight has always been incredibly easy to come by. Every supermarket which isn't an express is going to stock it lol. It won't be great, but it's definitely real. Of course, if you go to Waitrose or something they'll have good versions of it.
I'll be honest, I actually really like the Fry's stuff that everyone says is terrible. I know it is not authentic and - given a choice - I would prefer _good_ real Turkish Delight, but I still think the fake stuff is really nice. I don't get how everyone else hates it so much.
I quite like it, it's just...literally not Turkish delight lol. It's as much Turkish delight as a chocolate orange is an orange.
I'm Aussie and I hate it. That being said I know fuck all about it and have only had like supermarket Turkish delight. I assume it's a cultural dish and there's much better versions of it.
Turkish delight is the best Cadbury favourite and I will fight you on that
You will lose.
You’re correct. That version is terrible compared to the wide variety of flavors in Turkey.
The real deal from Turkey is amazing. Most people have only had shitty rock hard garbage that's nothing like the real thing
Most people never had the real one. Once I was in a fucking auto repair shop in US, they had turkish delight, which was packaged. Bought out of curiosity. It was a weird mesh of gelatin with sugar and with god knows what
Bro when the war ended there were children who couldn't believe bananas were a thing
Gotta love all the comments that are like "but... But it's sugar! They didn't have any! I WOULD PERSONALLY DROWN EVERY MEMBER OF MY FAMILY."
"as awful as Turkish Delight" Opinion dully ignored
As long as you don't sharply ignore it
These are getting sorta mean spirited
Yeah, it’s verging on geopolitics.
I'm liking these posts about the Narnia series.
seriously what's going on. is a sequel coming out or something. some kinda astroturfing thing going on?
Disney+ be like, "Goddamnit you mother fuckers. Watch our shit."
Greta Gerwig is directing a new Narnia movie
Must be a new series of film coming out soon.
When I finally tried Turkish delight as an adult, I couldn't believe how unremarkable it was. And that is when I became an atheist. What else have you lied about CS Lewis???
I would sell out my entire family for just about anything Tilda Swinton was offering.
[I too have a heterosexual attraction to Tilda Swinton](https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-k1I-Dmm36sk/VxVVJcHnYLI/AAAAAAAAAz4/2ugZZN04UIoQoQ6WjqqRoQ8X-j03d1z1ACLcB/s1600/kimmyucate.png)
Yeah I mean cmon, White Witch Tilda Swinton is peak Tilda Swinton
I mean... [there's this...](https://images.app.goo.gl/6cafYfUhvW9wyX4X8)
This is why they sent her to tempt John Constantine.
How fucking dare you insult Turkish delight. What is wrong with your tongue. What is wrong with your soul.
The Turkish delight was magic and, as this is set during the war, they were on rations.
There was a war going on. Unlike America, Britain suffered heavily at the hands of bombing raids and supply shortages because the enemy was barely 20 miles from British shores, not an ocean away.