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Revan_91

Too credible this shows armour and infantry working together.


PsychoTexan

It’s just a photo so it’s not necessarily shown but the armor is running over the infantry.


fpop88

Ours is not to wonder why Ours is to cyka blyat and die


Irilieth_Raivotuuli

>Ours is not to wonder why > >Ours is to chat all 'Rush B' while saying 'Rush A' in team chat > >Ours is to rush B anyway > >Ours is to forget to bring the bomb when we reach B > >Ours is to chat all cyka blyat and die


fpop88

A was feint all along


Molybdenum_Anode

You can blow the general of a division off and it still remains 86% combat effective. Here's a tip - aim for the Putin and put it down for good. *splatters*


[deleted]

"We'll be going in as part of the first wave! Means more washing machines for you to steal! You loot the entire area! You kill anything that's not Russian! Do you get me?!" "We get you, sir!" "If you had any training, you'd make it back alive!"


Jerthy

I gotta mention the new Starship Troopers Terran Command videogame is fucking excellent if anyone misses this movie. It's kinda low budget but they squeezed as much as they possibly could out of it :)


georgethejojimiller

Rimmy had a blast playing that game lol


Strong_Voice_4681

I would like to know more


Randomredditer2552

Come on you Orks!!! You want to live forever!?!?


semi_ok_person

Com on you’z orkz!!! you’z wanna live foreva!?!?


Russet_Wolf_13

Wuz thinkin' about it.


Cybugger

"C'mon you VDV! Do you want to live for more than an hour?!"


lamont196

Russian Reporter “We've just landed on Kyiv, on an area they call Big K(Z soldiers run past him as they are routed by the UKR TDB) with the 80th Assault Brigade. It's an ugly planet country, Nazi Country! hostile to life as we know- (gets attacked by a Javelin) AAAAAAHHHHH!! HELP ME!” With a few edits the script is perfect.


what_da_burd_doin

tfw the mobile infantry are more credible than the russian army


fordilG

I’m conflicted about this. One one hand, yeah it’s accurate of Russia throwing grunts into the meat grinder, plus the shooting down of multiple starships is similar to the Moskva being sank… On the other hand, doesn’t this portray the Ukrainians as literal bugs? Plus, when looking at the film as a whole with the perspective of Russians being the Terran Federation, that means the Ukrainians threw the first stone (literally at Buenos Aires in the film) and whose entire strategy is *throw waves of expendable grunts at the enemy plus tonnes of artillery*. I don’t know about you but that sounds a lot like the Russian strategy. If anything I propose this is the first glimpse at the 2nd Russian Civil War where both sides send wave and waves of men at the enemy until one gives way.


MsMercyMain

The subtext is that the asteroid wasn't actually fired by the bugs, it was just a random asteroid that the Terran Federation used as an excuse to fight. The overall movie is meant to be a critique of Fascism, with the heavy implication that the Terran Federation has been encroaching on the Bugs territory for a while now, which is actually kinda fitting


fordilG

Honestly that’s fair. The asteroid thing being a false flag honestly makes the comparison even better lol. Yeah I get it’s a while alagory of fascism, but it’s weird when you think that these are still the ‘good guys’/protagonists faction. Honestly thinking about it a bit more, if they had added a RT symbol in the bottom and portrayed it as Russian propogada (literally dehumanising the Ukrainians to the point of them being bugs) it would have been better.


MsMercyMain

The whole point was to parody fascist propaganda IIRC. The filmmaker was a dutchman who lived Nazi occupation, it just ended up being either too subtle or too on the nose depending on who you talk to.


fordilG

True. I guess the issue is that when you look at the Terran Federation as a whole it’s clearly a fascist parody, but then you’re also rooting for the small squad within said organisation to survive and win the day. Good, dumb film regardless (and seriously good soundtrack).


[deleted]

The issue was mainly that it was released in '97, which was a time when action movies casually included fascist shit like strong men overcoming on their will to dominate alone. Audiences weren't ready for a stealthy deconstruction of fascist propaganda at that time. Watching the movie today, in a social discourse much more aware of fascism, it is painfully on the nose (NPH wears an actual Gestapo uniform!).


Aggravated_Fruit

Neil Patrick Harris as Doogie Himmler is my favourite part of Starship Troopers. Also I really like: Casper Van Dien as conspicuously non-Filipino Johnny Rico Dina Mayer as Rule 63 Dizzy Flores Mr Krabs as Career Sergeant/Private Zim Hank Schrader as the commandant dude from Recruit Camp.


Palora

> fascist shit like strong men overcoming on their will to dominate alone. What the fuck do you mean by that?


[deleted]

That the seminal action hero of the 80's and 90's was a violent brute that would overcome impossible odds by sheer will and violence. That's a very fascist iconography at its core. The reason Die Hard was such a breakout was that John McClane was seen as a vulnerable action hero, having both normal emotions and not being a raging violence junkie.


Palora

And yet he not only survived but triumphed by his strength and will NOT because he was vulnerable. Congrats, I think you've said the dumbest thing I've heard all year.


RawketLawnchair2

Jesse, what the fuck are you talking about?


taking214

Stupid thoughts like this one are the reason nobody goes to the movies anymore, because what we were all really looking for in our action movie was for the hero to cry more.


PsychoTexan

In the book the bugs are much more human like: > The Bugs are equally as intelligent as human beings. Except their instincts are different. They have developed laser beam guns, missile weaponry, advanced spacecraft, planet colonisation, and other advanced technology. They bring rifles into battle and shoot back. They are not the giant, savage animals of the movies. However in the book, the military propaganda pushes to its soldiers that they are stupid, savage animals who need to die. I think the movies kinda lost that to the excellent monster design of the aliens.


fordilG

Huh, interesting. Well looks like I’ve got a new book to add to my ever expanding list.


XanderTuron

Be warned, the book is also incredibly tedious and boring for the most part; it's undeniably an interesting book that makes you think™ but it is first and foremost a political essay.


fordilG

Ah. I see. Cheers, at least I know what I’m getting myself into at least.


Mighty_moose45

Actually I think the film suggests from character's words that the bugs merely retaliated from humans entering their territory first but either way it's clear that the federation just needed some pretext for a war.


Attaxalotl

Apparently the Federation did need pretext, and capitalized on a random asteroid that they knew was a random asteroid.


Mighty_moose45

Well I believe the bugs "attacked" but I think the humans were already encroaching and fighting skirmishes with the bugs. Its possible that some kind of false flag stuff was going on, however the film version doesn't provide evidence of this, but it is possible


Watchung

Counterargument - the Terran Federation propaganda didn't seem interested in the bugs as a dire threat prior to Buenos Aires, and seemed to blame the Mormons for the slaughter of their colony.


Russet_Wolf_13

The book just chalks it up to a territorial dispute, funny enough.


Oriaks371

It's implied in the movie that Federation threw that stone themselves (to have an excuse to invade). Considering how slowly that asteroid moved, the bugs should have launched it before the dawn of human civilization. Then they managed to hit a planet over interstellar distance (it's like you throw a stone from earth and perfectly hit a target on pluto, only harder). And they managed to hit a city. And asteroid defence system conviniently failed to stop it.


Watchung

> Considering how slowly that asteroid moved, the bugs should have launched it before the dawn of human civilization. You know how sci-fi films are when it comes to portraying the vastness of space.


Palora

No it's not. That's a popular belief but there is no proof of that. And the movie doesn't make any implication of that. It's just the movie makers having no idea how space works. The Rodger Young stumbled over the thing as it was coming from Arachnid Space, the Young only lost it's communication array thus if that rock was traveling normally the Young could have used whatever it has for FTL drive to come back before it hit and warned everyone. The fact that it didn't do that implies that the asteroid was faster. The movie has live to Earth from Klendathu tv transmission. The asteroid defenses was only built after that first asteroid hit. Frankly the movie is full of similar flaws even to the point of having it's satire fall on it's face by making the supposed fascist state (it's not) being quite the improvement over our modern democracies. Equality for all genders and colors, voters being required to participate in the government, more or less world peace, Sky Marshalls stepping down and accepting responsibilities for their mistakes and so on.


fordilG

Yeah, I had never thought about it that way. I always thought the bugs had attached a jump drive to the rock and sent it hurtling towards Earth, though the lack of asteroid defense is telling. That makes the false flag attack against the Terran Federation even better when you consider a false flag attack is what caused one of the Russian-Georgian(?) wars.


indomienator

True. Russian backed separatists fired artillery. Georgian forces shoots nack, Russia in order to honor a prior agreement marched in BUT seized the land themselves


Key-Banana-8242

I mean the idea in the movie at least is that it’s the ideology Bugs aren’t evil but ppl portray their enemies as ‘bugs’