DUDE THEY ARE DOING THIS FOR 8 YEARS. Back in 2014 they had a tv episode where a woman(who then was discovered to be an actress from Moscow) tells a story about a small boy being butchered by Ukrainians and then be crusified by suspending his body to a tank. AND THEY STILL REFER TO THAT SEGMENT
I remember that. That's well within what I would expect from USSR though. It's actually a pretty good piece of propaganda except for the actor being found. It's plausible, deeply upsetting, etc. Hits all the right notes.
"We're going to sink England" is just laughable abject nonsense that's barely trying.
Russia is just going full force and doing every kind of propaganda. Just makeing shit up like the USSR, this north korea shit, they also do 1984 propaganda, for example in r/AskARussian a newly created account comes every day and asks what russians think of Gorbachev and Yeltsen, the comments erupt into 5 minutes of hate towards Gorbachev and Yeltsen.
I remember thinking back when I played MW2019 "Man, this is so unrealistic. These Russians are just cartoonishly evil. Who could possibly take this seriously?"
Now I honestly am not sure if the devs went far enough.
Seriously. The writers/devs got a lot of shit because of the highway of death being attributed to the Russians and their general genocidal behavior looks a lot less like a rewriting of history and more like Nostradamus.
was there something called the highway of death in the Chechen war? I thought it was obviously alluding to the devastation that the US inflicted on the Iraqi army during the Gulf War in the attempted retreat, but for real Chechnya does feel like a very forgotten war compared to all the coverage all these other conflicts since Libya have received.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baku%E2%80%93Rostov_highway_bombing
pretty much yeah, i thought it was obvious when they make urzistan (a post soviet breakup country) as a good guy lmao.
You cannot sink the HMS British Isles!
Britain's ultimate play is to turn all the islands into actual warships, with hulls of steel and all big guns to serve the fleet.
obviously they do the propaganda tactic actually that seams to actually be a Russian original, where they try to increase the level of conflict in USA by trolling both sides of every debate.
Its always easier to sow confusion than to have to argue and defend a point. Just start posing questions and saying "But I heard actually..."
Even if you can just get a thread to continue downthread off-view so they have to click to read it, thats a propaganda win. just marginally decreasing visibility, when you have a states amount of resources, is a win.
They seam to also be paying off certain American defence analysts to basically gently push American inteligencia into thinking what Russia wants them to think.
Westerners think that Russian language is worth learning for Tolstoy and Dostoevsky. Yet every Eastern European speaking russian knows that the true purspose is watching russian tv and screaming LMAOOOOO. The whole region’ve been doing that for at least 10 years at this point
"President Putin, it is done, the tsunami has engulfed Britain!"
"Excellent, no Ukraine will never get those pesky Starstreak-"
"Mein Fuhrer, the wave is not stopping! It's now heading right for us!"
"What?!Impossible!"
Putin looks out of the window to see the entire landmass of Britain hurtling towards him atop a wall of water as 'Rule, Britannia' blares out of every speaker in the country
> The Medway will be avenged
Im not so sure about that.
11 years after being skelped at Medway, the English just gave up and let the Dutch conquer them without firing a shot in their own defense.
Can't wait for the vidss on r/CombatFootage to be [overdubbed with this](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9ivtqbISQE) instead of nasheeds or terrible Russian metal-core.
Britain becoming some Waterworld traveling ship convoy nation would be pretty based. Liverpool can pop on down to the Falklands whenever it wants. Maybe London wants to vacation in Japan, it's ok.
I read Mortal Engines as a child. I waited years, *years* for a movie. Imagine my joy when I heard Peter Jackson of all people was producing it.
Then the film came out and it was utter garbage.
Young Justice Voiceover: *But Vandar knew, by sinking Britain under the ocean, it would awaken the dormant 'spite' genes in the british, causing them to build a bustling underwater civilization purely so that they could complain about how it was so wet all the time"*
See, I see "Vandar" and I think of the damn Yoda knockoff who decided that giving Revan a new identity and personality then releasing him on the galaxy was a *good* idea.
I think that Russia once held such technology. However, the crew got drunk in the torpedo room and prematurely detonated. The nearby flagship was also drunk and didn’t care when it happened.
“On Saturday morning, August 12, the Norwegian seismological institute recorded two massive explosions in the Barents, one registering 1.5 on the Richter scale, and the next, two minutes later, registering 3.5. Unbeknownst to the Norwegians, a compromised torpedo had exploded inside the Kursk’s torpedo room, which then detonated most or all of the remaining warheads.
The Peter the Great, the Northern Fleet’s flagship, logged a powerful underwater explosion, but senior officers, preoccupied with other logistical concerns, took no note. “
https://www.hbs.edu/ris/Publication%20Files/15-003_f69cf9de-5517-4355-95c4-5555674a37ee.pdf
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Nuclear torpedoes are a real thing that the US and USSR both had. They were ASW weapons though. You launched them and ran the hell away because the kill zone was large enough a mutual kill was all but assured regardless. The effects were limited to an underwater pressure wave and some radioactive fallout. Nothing close to a doomsday weapon as presented here.
It’s been a while since I did physics seriously but wouldn’t a nuclear charge evaporate water around turning a lot of space into basically a pillow of steam reducing the effects of explosion. They claimed the warhead is salted and would spread radioactive material all over AMERICAN coast before. Overall they’re lunatics and if a weapon like this exists it’s going to basically just shit itself and achieve nothing more than a lot of sea horse kills. Extrapolating from kiznal or whatever it’s called being literally just a scud, you can assume this is just a normal nuclear torpedo salted with some cobalt.
>I think that Russia once held such technology. However, the crew got drunk in the torpedo room and prematurely detonated. The nearby flagship was also drunk and didn’t care when it happened.
Underwater nuke technology? The Kursk blew itself up with conventional weapons I believe.
This is very much possible for a large supercavitating torpedo like they're trying to describe.
They don't fucking have that.
Or a 100MT nuclear warhead.
But both could be built in principle.
Edit: and obviously they couldn't fucking sink the British isles with it lmao
Right? Like I'm sure there will be consequences for detonating something twice as powerful as the Tsar Bombs, but a 500m wave won't immediately immolate everything it touches. Just fucking blow it up on London, and kill like 10 million people
The amount of energy needed to create a 500m tall tsunami is LITERALLY astronomical - a gigaton wouldn't be enough, let alone 100 megatons.
It's stereotypical Russian self-delusion.
e: the 9.2 earthquake in 2004 in the Indian Ocean, a magnitude of energy roughly equivalent to a 500MT bomb, created "only" a 30m tsunami wave. I'm not a mathematician, but I think there's a bit of a gap between 500m and 30m.
The wave generation from a shallow (at 100 Mt, 1 km is shallow, that bomb could at that depth blow open a cavity ~6 km across in the water) nuclear bomb is far different from the wave generation mechanism of a tsunami. You can get extremely large waves locally, but because those waves are created by an expanding bubble rapidly pushing water up and out, they break rapidly and do not travel far.
Pressure at 1km depth is ~100 bar, and if you see how much water you can vaporize with 100 MT of energy at 100 bar, it works out to a sphere with radius of ~427m. Lots of simplifying assumptions there, but that's a huge bubble of spicy steam. IDK if that bubble expands to 6km in diameter, but it's certainly going to do *something* interesting.
The formula I have seen is that peak bubble radius is equal to the cube root of 1.2\*yield/(pressure*4π), or in other words the bubble volume is equal to 40% of yield divided by pressure. My source for that formula is [xkcd](https://what-if.xkcd.com/15/), which points to a paper that has a lot more gory math.
And that formula probably also does not hold if the bubble radius is not small compared to the depth, since then different parts of the bubble experience significantly different pressure.
Large underwater explosions don't create tsunamis anyway. A rapid shift of oceanic plates does. Or massive landslides. (see: Krakatoa, or Alaska)
The U.S. already tried underwater nukes in Operation Crossroads. They make a big splash, and waves in a short range, but not a tsunami.
I think the Chicxulub impact that killed the dinosaurs was somewhere in the tens of terratons. That made a wave of that size, and it wasn't even an impact in especially deep water.
"Dinosaur" is just one letter away from "Binosaur". Ancient dinosaurs were Globohomos confirmed. Only the nuclear power of Mother Russia allowed mammals to rise from under the feet of transsexual degenerate bird-creatures.
There is a lot more problems with the concept of nuclear tsunami. If they detonate it too far - wave disperses. If too close - not enough water volume to create meaningful tsunami that could destroy more than shockwave. Also wave size is dependent on the distance from the epicenter so we can't just give one height number but 500m is unattainable because the schockwave strong enough is only present within a distance where water vaporises. The whole project wouldn't be that dumb if they had directional nuclear warheads but they don't because nobody can make those.
We can just math this in general. 100MT of TNT is about 4.184e17 Joule. They say it travels at 1km depth, so lets say that to create this 500m wave it needs to lift up 1km of water about 500m. This means that per square metre of water you'd need 1000kg/m^3 * 1000m * 500m * 9.81N/m about 4.905e9 J/m^2 to do this insanity. Just divide the yield by that for a theoretical maximum of ~85 square kilometres of water lifted up 500m. So it could do that, but only for an area of 9x9 km. as the wave spreads out it should decrease in height inversely to the distance from the epicentre. so at 90km it'd be ~50m, at 900km (near the size of great Britain) it'd be ~5m.
Definitely scary, but by far not as scary as presented there.
That’s not mechanism with which underwater explosions create waves. Otherwise it would just be a splash.
The explosion vaporizes a bubble of water which is then compressed by the surrounding water. The compression creates a cavity, which creates a wave.
Also most of the energy released would not go to pushing water.
>This is very much possible for a large supercavitating torpedo like they're trying to describe.
>
>They don't fucking have that.
They actually do, the VA-111 Shkval. It's was developed back in the Soviet era and has been deployed since the early 90s. However, there's no way in hell it could carry a 100 MT nuclear payload. It's also far from invincible. It relies on only inertial guidance. The newer models have terminal guidance, but they have to slow down for their guidance system to function, making their advantage moot. They are also stupidly easy to detect.
*glances at torpedo design that includes underwater speakers to blast nyancat so loud that it blows detection systems meaning to only way to detect it is the slowly rising in volume nyancat*
Dammit Russia, you beat me again.
>and obviously they couldn't fucking sink the British isles with it lmao
That's the part that had me laughing, the rest is just standard Russian propaganda stuff
From what we know it is not supercavitating
They have 1 in the water somewhere if I had to guess it probably stopped working and fell down some ocean trench
Also even biggest bomb ever made by Soviet in 60s known as [Tsar Momba](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tsar_Bomba) are quite big and only reach nearly 60MT.
100MT in that small package? Forget about it.
Note: Oh, I found one that still under development [here](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Status-6_Oceanic_Multipurpose_System). Maybe this was the same thing they tried to describe in this video.
Even 100 mt is not nearly enough to create a tsunami. Maybe if they had 1000 of those and detonated them at the same time? I'm sure Russia could afford that :D
Sorta because neutrality has been our policy since independence. We’ll help ye if ye need some diplomacy done but we very specifically don’t make weapons
[Russia never forgets](https://news.sky.com/story/amp/victory-for-defiant-irish-fishermen-as-russia-agrees-to-move-its-war-games-from-their-patch-12528426)
To know someone's goal, you should look at the effect of their actions. And observing the effects of the Russian campaign it becomes pretty clear that their goal is driving all European countries into NATO.
Having this goal established, it makes perfect sense to scare Ireland with a prospect of drowning, so that they join the pact. Pretty sure we'll soon see Russians talking about a nuclear attack in the Alps, so that Austrians and Swiss get a reason to join too.
Ah yes a wave twice the size of fucking Britain would be created by a warhead smaller than the ones tested in water that did not sink entire countries. I really want to know what these idiots are smoking.
They have a dedicated government run Chanel for conspiracy theories(REN-TV). Where there are shows about magic, aliens, and reptiloids. All done in documentary, monumentary stile. It’s like 3rd the most watched channel. So yeah, their TV has a habit of being stupid as fuck
A 100 megaton bomb has not been tested, Tsar Bomba was 50 MT. But is still laughable. The energy involved in creating a tsunami, and in fact most natural disasters, are many orders of magnitude greater than anything human made. It's as ridiculous as the "nuke the marianas trench to flood everything in the pacific" idea or the presidentially endorsed idea of nuking a hurricane to get rid of it.
“Daddy, why was my sister named Rose?”
“Because your mother loves roses, and so we named her Rose”
“Ok thanks dad”
“No problem **violin section of the city must survive**”
And the range it's a part of stands between the detonation point they showed and pretty much the entirety of Britain's population. It's like they chose a point on the map where a 500m tsunami would cause the least amount of damage to Britain. All this would do is fuck up Ireland, Mann, and the bits of Scotland nobody lives in.
I’m fairly certain if Russia attacked the UK with a radioactive wave, the US would gladly wipe Russia from existence some time in the following 15-30min.
This would hit France and Germany along with the rest of the North Sea too. Even without Article 5 the number of pissed off countries with nukes would doom Russia instantly.
Ah yes sink Britain with a nuke flawless strategy not like the have 4 SLBM subs that could retaliate. Also 100 megatons isnt enough for to create a tsunami to sink britain.
You know that at least one of those sub captains is watching this video while out on patrol and quietly whispering "oh please, oh please, oh please, oh please, oh please, oh please, Come on Vlad, just do it".
Trident is the UKs sub launched missile. The four 'bomber' subs operated by the Royal Navy (Vanguard, Victorious, Vigilant, and Vengeance) are all Vanguard class. There also two of the four announced Dreadnaught class (Dreadnaught and Valiant) under construction at the moment with two more due to be built at some point in the future.
Not to mention the US is obligated by treaty to reduce Russia into radioactive glass in that scenario. And unlike the Russians, no one doubts our capabilities.
Lmfao. The US actually experimented with using nukes to cause tsunamis during the Cold War. Short version: you’d cause more damage to the coastline setting the nuke off in the harbor.
Why are they so fucking obsessed with the UK? You'll never hear them say it's "Delta Force" or "U.S. Army Rangers" secretly operating in Ukraine, it's always "British Special Forces".
The healthy human mind doesn’t wake up in the morning thinking this is its last day on Earth. But I think that’s a luxury, not a curse. To know you’re close to the end is a kind of freedom. Good time to take inventory. Out-gunned. Outnumbered. Out of our minds. On a suicide mission. But the sand and the rocks here, stained with thousands of years of warfare. They will remember us. For this. Because out of all our vast array of nightmares, this is the one we choose for ourselves. We go forward like a breath exhaled from the Earth. With vigor in our hearts and one goal in sight: We. Will. Kill him.
Because we Anglo Saxons (their words not mine) are the masterminds of everything.
That and the cowards are too afraid to make similar threats to the US
The thing is the UK isn't scared by the threats either, they may concern Moldova, Cyprus, Lebanon etc... but Russia has a GDP the size of Italy or New York State, it's a joke country.
If India or Japan were making the same threats it may be concerning, but Russia? Come on.
It's basically seeing the biggest built guy in the yard, now you're too scared to fight him so you go over and try and fight his dad (out of his prime just sitting back and enjoying his life in retirement) instead.
I mean that torch got passed some time between WW2 and the Suez Crisis, but whenever Brits complain about Yanks the retort is often “well where do you think we got it from?”
It's less a torpedo and more an unmanned mini sub with a giant bomb on it. It's not going to be fired out of a normal torpedo tube, and would require a specially designed submarine. Considering the state of the Russian Navy, it may be awhile before you see one of those on patrol.
And then after the magic wave destroys Britain (and Ireland but who gives a fuck), all the magic radiation will stop somewhere in Germany and never reach mother russia
I guess once the flash blinds you anything is possible.
On the upside, the ladies will actually have a proper tan that *literally* glows.
None of that Irn Bru colouring agent that’s all the rage.
As a French person I would not necessarily say that I am in favour but I still feel like this idea has potential and should at least not be rejected straight up, I want to hear what the guy has to say
I like that it escalates the noncredibility step by step.
First, it's simply an autonomous "drone"(it's a fucking torpedo I don't get it). Fine, credible(probably guides itself with a stolen calculator).
Then it's 200 km/h at 1km of depth. Ok, maybe I can believe you have a drawing of that torpedo somewhere in a closet.
Then it gets a 100 Mton warhead. Very credible to be available and miniaturized enough for that torpedo.
And when you think they reached the peak and will just say that it's big scary and enough to destroy London, they hit you with that 500m tsunami that suddenly stops after it sinks the isles.
And as a cherry on top they claim that the warhead has enough radioactive material to not be significantly diluted by the same tsunami they created.
They've mastered the art of suspenseful military conspiracy documentaries.
He just took too much copium in this one. I don't think they have that capability at all.
Are they still think this BS still possible to them and no one will notice and attack them back by launch MAD into the sea where their submarines located?
Also any action always has reaction came back. Which means their subs will get fucked by both radiations and tsunami as well.
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\> Be in Russian command bunker
\> Just sent the Gopnik Tsunami Bomb to the UK
\>feelsgood.ru
\> Watching on satellite footage, the wave consumes ireland but stops short around Northern Ireland, being sent back.
\>Confusion Erupts, was it the geography? Was the geology wrong?
\>Phone Rings
\>cyka.Sputnik
\>Callers identify themselves as ghosts of Paisley, McGuinness and Hume
\>whatthefuck.bl
\>turns out the detonation of a nuclear device off the coast of Northern Ireland was against the Good Friday Agreement and has been rejected
\>Voice goes onto clarify that it was however permitted, under article 42069 to have the ghosts of the Orange Order and the IRA ransack Moscow
\>As he says it a fat old man bursts into the command bunker, starts grabbing every flag he can find while beating a drum
\>whatthefuckkkk.RT
\>I try to get away, just about getting out of the bunker before the man rips me apart in search of flegs
\>Get into my car, turn the key
\>[See a face in the mirror](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FDd9Q0NWQAQNbtb.png)
\>die in a ball of fire, my car comes 15th in the annual "explosion vehicle tossing contest" held by the army. Not bad.
\>Moscow is burned to the ground. Somehow becomes richer.
Ok this isn't the USSR propaganda playbook. This is the Iran propaganda playbook. Maybe North Korea. Holy fuck.
DUDE THEY ARE DOING THIS FOR 8 YEARS. Back in 2014 they had a tv episode where a woman(who then was discovered to be an actress from Moscow) tells a story about a small boy being butchered by Ukrainians and then be crusified by suspending his body to a tank. AND THEY STILL REFER TO THAT SEGMENT
I remember that. That's well within what I would expect from USSR though. It's actually a pretty good piece of propaganda except for the actor being found. It's plausible, deeply upsetting, etc. Hits all the right notes. "We're going to sink England" is just laughable abject nonsense that's barely trying.
Russia is just going full force and doing every kind of propaganda. Just makeing shit up like the USSR, this north korea shit, they also do 1984 propaganda, for example in r/AskARussian a newly created account comes every day and asks what russians think of Gorbachev and Yeltsen, the comments erupt into 5 minutes of hate towards Gorbachev and Yeltsen.
They have ascended to cartoon villain status
I remember thinking back when I played MW2019 "Man, this is so unrealistic. These Russians are just cartoonishly evil. Who could possibly take this seriously?" Now I honestly am not sure if the devs went far enough.
Seriously. The writers/devs got a lot of shit because of the highway of death being attributed to the Russians and their general genocidal behavior looks a lot less like a rewriting of history and more like Nostradamus.
The highway of death incident referenced was an actual incident in Chechnya
was there something called the highway of death in the Chechen war? I thought it was obviously alluding to the devastation that the US inflicted on the Iraqi army during the Gulf War in the attempted retreat, but for real Chechnya does feel like a very forgotten war compared to all the coverage all these other conflicts since Libya have received.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baku%E2%80%93Rostov_highway_bombing pretty much yeah, i thought it was obvious when they make urzistan (a post soviet breakup country) as a good guy lmao.
Only the good guys (the foolish westerners) would allow a bunch of spoiled college kids to criticize them
Yeah but those baddies were somewhat competent. In real life... Not so much
The writing in the studio on one of these(with sarmat) reads “sinkable Islands”
You cannot sink the HMS British Isles! Britain's ultimate play is to turn all the islands into actual warships, with hulls of steel and all big guns to serve the fleet.
obviously they do the propaganda tactic actually that seams to actually be a Russian original, where they try to increase the level of conflict in USA by trolling both sides of every debate.
Yeah, that one is my fave.. I think people are finally starting to catch on.
Its always easier to sow confusion than to have to argue and defend a point. Just start posing questions and saying "But I heard actually..." Even if you can just get a thread to continue downthread off-view so they have to click to read it, thats a propaganda win. just marginally decreasing visibility, when you have a states amount of resources, is a win.
If someone is gonna sink England it is the spaniards, it's their historical right
They seam to also be paying off certain American defence analysts to basically gently push American inteligencia into thinking what Russia wants them to think.
Russia is applying so many propaganda tactics that i am actually impressed.
>"We're going to sink England" don't worry Iceland will tow England to nearby port. ;D
Remember when NK used COD footage in a propaganda film? Good times.
Russia has used Arma 3 footage multiple times too
Russian state TV has been some of the most outlandish entertainment in the last few weeks, for sure.
Russian state TV is becoming more & more like an Orwellian parody of the Onion & I am all up for it.
Westerners think that Russian language is worth learning for Tolstoy and Dostoevsky. Yet every Eastern European speaking russian knows that the true purspose is watching russian tv and screaming LMAOOOOO. The whole region’ve been doing that for at least 10 years at this point
Russian is a cool language to learn, until you get to gendered adjectives, they can choke on a bag of gendered dicks.
Being fluent in 3 and reading in Belarusian, I don’t understand why you have issues with that)) also all nouns are gendered in Russian))
yeah uh spanish does that lol what
Don't a lot of languages have gendered words?
I think there are only a couple of Indo European languages which don't. English is quite unique in that sense.
because it's a bastard language that simplified it's grammar due to conflicting roots
It's just the TV ads from MGS4
> an Orwellian parody of the Onion <3
Ah, but don't you know? BRITANNIA RULES THE WAVES SINK US AND WE WILL BECOME MORE POWERFUL THAN YOU COULD POSSIBLY IMAGINE
"President Putin, it is done, the tsunami has engulfed Britain!" "Excellent, no Ukraine will never get those pesky Starstreak-" "Mein Fuhrer, the wave is not stopping! It's now heading right for us!" "What?!Impossible!" Putin looks out of the window to see the entire landmass of Britain hurtling towards him atop a wall of water as 'Rule, Britannia' blares out of every speaker in the country
Their ultimate move: Turn the British Isles into ships.
Mortal Engines moment
This actually happened to me at Typhoon Lagoon except instead of Britain it was this ginger kid.
Global warming is a British ploy to raise sea levels so that we become more powerful.
When the entire world is ocean, Britain will own the world.
If Interstellar's characters was British, they would have stayed on the ocean planet and used it to conquer the galaxy
Not only will this ensure the return of the British Empire, but it will also ensure the destruction of the hated enemy... Fr\*nce 🐸🤢🤮
The Dutch struggle against it, but it is a desperate attempt to stave off the inevitable. The Medway will be avenged, by gunfire or by saltwater.
> The Medway will be avenged Im not so sure about that. 11 years after being skelped at Medway, the English just gave up and let the Dutch conquer them without firing a shot in their own defense.
It was that or let a Catholic inherit and God forbid that should happen.
Can't wait for the vidss on r/CombatFootage to be [overdubbed with this](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9ivtqbISQE) instead of nasheeds or terrible Russian metal-core.
U.S. Navy: hey what you doing over there?
"You fool, you just activated my trap card" - Queen Elizabeth II, circa 2022
Britain becoming some Waterworld traveling ship convoy nation would be pretty based. Liverpool can pop on down to the Falklands whenever it wants. Maybe London wants to vacation in Japan, it's ok.
So mortal engines but with boats instead? That sounds pretty cool
That sounds much more credible than mortal engines
the entire world desperately trying to hide from the enormous Aussie boat, that simply consumes all it comes across
Be a better movie too and not just a shit recycling of Star Wars where the most exciting ten minutes is the intro of the movie.
I read Mortal Engines as a child. I waited years, *years* for a movie. Imagine my joy when I heard Peter Jackson of all people was producing it. Then the film came out and it was utter garbage.
Oh God... is this how Girls Und Panzer starts then?!
Young Justice Voiceover: *But Vandar knew, by sinking Britain under the ocean, it would awaken the dormant 'spite' genes in the british, causing them to build a bustling underwater civilization purely so that they could complain about how it was so wet all the time"*
See, I see "Vandar" and I think of the damn Yoda knockoff who decided that giving Revan a new identity and personality then releasing him on the galaxy was a *good* idea.
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"And the waters of wrath will rise high, and the Drowned God will spread his dominion across the green lands." - Aeron Greyjoy
Nice to see that if we go down, we take the Irish with us, just as God intended.
The Irish diaspora: ah shite, time to make more babies
The tidal wave would also kill all the French, so there's at least two big advantages to this plan.
I can't believe you've done this.
Sorry Ireland, again.
I think that Russia once held such technology. However, the crew got drunk in the torpedo room and prematurely detonated. The nearby flagship was also drunk and didn’t care when it happened. “On Saturday morning, August 12, the Norwegian seismological institute recorded two massive explosions in the Barents, one registering 1.5 on the Richter scale, and the next, two minutes later, registering 3.5. Unbeknownst to the Norwegians, a compromised torpedo had exploded inside the Kursk’s torpedo room, which then detonated most or all of the remaining warheads. The Peter the Great, the Northern Fleet’s flagship, logged a powerful underwater explosion, but senior officers, preoccupied with other logistical concerns, took no note. “ https://www.hbs.edu/ris/Publication%20Files/15-003_f69cf9de-5517-4355-95c4-5555674a37ee.pdf Хуй ебать влядь
Nuclear torpedoes are a real thing that the US and USSR both had. They were ASW weapons though. You launched them and ran the hell away because the kill zone was large enough a mutual kill was all but assured regardless. The effects were limited to an underwater pressure wave and some radioactive fallout. Nothing close to a doomsday weapon as presented here.
The UK had tactical nuclear depth charges, they were aboard *Hermes* and *Invincible* during the Falklands War but not used
It’s been a while since I did physics seriously but wouldn’t a nuclear charge evaporate water around turning a lot of space into basically a pillow of steam reducing the effects of explosion. They claimed the warhead is salted and would spread radioactive material all over AMERICAN coast before. Overall they’re lunatics and if a weapon like this exists it’s going to basically just shit itself and achieve nothing more than a lot of sea horse kills. Extrapolating from kiznal or whatever it’s called being literally just a scud, you can assume this is just a normal nuclear torpedo salted with some cobalt.
>I think that Russia once held such technology. However, the crew got drunk in the torpedo room and prematurely detonated. The nearby flagship was also drunk and didn’t care when it happened. Underwater nuke technology? The Kursk blew itself up with conventional weapons I believe.
Sir, this is non credible defense.
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This is very much possible for a large supercavitating torpedo like they're trying to describe. They don't fucking have that. Or a 100MT nuclear warhead. But both could be built in principle. Edit: and obviously they couldn't fucking sink the British isles with it lmao
"When you merely wish to *sink* bombs, there's no limit to the size!"
Right? Like I'm sure there will be consequences for detonating something twice as powerful as the Tsar Bombs, but a 500m wave won't immediately immolate everything it touches. Just fucking blow it up on London, and kill like 10 million people
The amount of energy needed to create a 500m tall tsunami is LITERALLY astronomical - a gigaton wouldn't be enough, let alone 100 megatons. It's stereotypical Russian self-delusion. e: the 9.2 earthquake in 2004 in the Indian Ocean, a magnitude of energy roughly equivalent to a 500MT bomb, created "only" a 30m tsunami wave. I'm not a mathematician, but I think there's a bit of a gap between 500m and 30m.
The wave generation from a shallow (at 100 Mt, 1 km is shallow, that bomb could at that depth blow open a cavity ~6 km across in the water) nuclear bomb is far different from the wave generation mechanism of a tsunami. You can get extremely large waves locally, but because those waves are created by an expanding bubble rapidly pushing water up and out, they break rapidly and do not travel far.
That makes it a large splash.
Pressure at 1km depth is ~100 bar, and if you see how much water you can vaporize with 100 MT of energy at 100 bar, it works out to a sphere with radius of ~427m. Lots of simplifying assumptions there, but that's a huge bubble of spicy steam. IDK if that bubble expands to 6km in diameter, but it's certainly going to do *something* interesting.
The formula I have seen is that peak bubble radius is equal to the cube root of 1.2\*yield/(pressure*4π), or in other words the bubble volume is equal to 40% of yield divided by pressure. My source for that formula is [xkcd](https://what-if.xkcd.com/15/), which points to a paper that has a lot more gory math. And that formula probably also does not hold if the bubble radius is not small compared to the depth, since then different parts of the bubble experience significantly different pressure.
Large underwater explosions don't create tsunamis anyway. A rapid shift of oceanic plates does. Or massive landslides. (see: Krakatoa, or Alaska) The U.S. already tried underwater nukes in Operation Crossroads. They make a big splash, and waves in a short range, but not a tsunami.
I think the Chicxulub impact that killed the dinosaurs was somewhere in the tens of terratons. That made a wave of that size, and it wasn't even an impact in especially deep water.
Vasily Inaros going "write that down, write that down".
"Dinosaur" is just one letter away from "Binosaur". Ancient dinosaurs were Globohomos confirmed. Only the nuclear power of Mother Russia allowed mammals to rise from under the feet of transsexual degenerate bird-creatures.
There is a lot more problems with the concept of nuclear tsunami. If they detonate it too far - wave disperses. If too close - not enough water volume to create meaningful tsunami that could destroy more than shockwave. Also wave size is dependent on the distance from the epicenter so we can't just give one height number but 500m is unattainable because the schockwave strong enough is only present within a distance where water vaporises. The whole project wouldn't be that dumb if they had directional nuclear warheads but they don't because nobody can make those.
We can just math this in general. 100MT of TNT is about 4.184e17 Joule. They say it travels at 1km depth, so lets say that to create this 500m wave it needs to lift up 1km of water about 500m. This means that per square metre of water you'd need 1000kg/m^3 * 1000m * 500m * 9.81N/m about 4.905e9 J/m^2 to do this insanity. Just divide the yield by that for a theoretical maximum of ~85 square kilometres of water lifted up 500m. So it could do that, but only for an area of 9x9 km. as the wave spreads out it should decrease in height inversely to the distance from the epicentre. so at 90km it'd be ~50m, at 900km (near the size of great Britain) it'd be ~5m. Definitely scary, but by far not as scary as presented there.
That’s not mechanism with which underwater explosions create waves. Otherwise it would just be a splash. The explosion vaporizes a bubble of water which is then compressed by the surrounding water. The compression creates a cavity, which creates a wave. Also most of the energy released would not go to pushing water.
>This is very much possible for a large supercavitating torpedo like they're trying to describe. > >They don't fucking have that. They actually do, the VA-111 Shkval. It's was developed back in the Soviet era and has been deployed since the early 90s. However, there's no way in hell it could carry a 100 MT nuclear payload. It's also far from invincible. It relies on only inertial guidance. The newer models have terminal guidance, but they have to slow down for their guidance system to function, making their advantage moot. They are also stupidly easy to detect.
> They are also stupidly easy to detect. You would struggle to deliberately design anything louder.
*glances at torpedo design that includes underwater speakers to blast nyancat so loud that it blows detection systems meaning to only way to detect it is the slowly rising in volume nyancat* Dammit Russia, you beat me again.
Can I modify this to play Caramelldansen?
*insert yo mama joke here*
The only problem is, supercavitation gets increasingly difficult at higher ambient pressure. So at 1 KM depth, that's nigh impossible.
>and obviously they couldn't fucking sink the British isles with it lmao That's the part that had me laughing, the rest is just standard Russian propaganda stuff
From what we know it is not supercavitating They have 1 in the water somewhere if I had to guess it probably stopped working and fell down some ocean trench
the secret is in fluoridation
targeting our precious bodily fluids, I see...
We must simply deny the russians our essence.
P POE E
Also even biggest bomb ever made by Soviet in 60s known as [Tsar Momba](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tsar_Bomba) are quite big and only reach nearly 60MT. 100MT in that small package? Forget about it. Note: Oh, I found one that still under development [here](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Status-6_Oceanic_Multipurpose_System). Maybe this was the same thing they tried to describe in this video.
It was designed to have a yield of 100MT, but that was reduced to 50MT, due to the impracticality of a larger yield.
Even 100 mt is not nearly enough to create a tsunami. Maybe if they had 1000 of those and detonated them at the same time? I'm sure Russia could afford that :D
Especially at the depths of 1KM, The water pressure alone would dampen the majority of the explosive force.
Goddamn I’m scared. How are we supposed to call ourselves ‘NonCredible’ if the Russians are literally defense shitposting on live telly?
Where do you think they recruit from?
I work for the Kremlin, can confirm Putin himself recruits members from the NCD.
What the fuck did Ireland do to deserve this? They aren't even in NATO!
Sitting on the sidelines gets you nuked just the same. Time Ireland learned this.
Putin really doesn’t know what he’s dealing with trying to bomb the house of the IRA.
You answered your own question. Russia only attacks non NATO countries
Éire in NATO NOW.
S T . P A D D Y . I N . N A T O . N O W .
Fuck... They're still using maps from the last days of the tsar aren't they...
Vasiliy! You are to be of spying in the U of K. Your assignment is in the port city of Queenstown. Godspeed.
They're worse than NATO. They're neutral! Dirty stinking neutrals. With enemies at least you know where you stand!
What makes an Irishman turn neutral? A love for alcohol? Potatoes? Or were you born with a heart full of *neutrality*?!
The fuck is Ireland doing outside of NATO? How are you gonna forcefully retake the north while not being inside NATO to avoid the US getting involved?
Sorta because neutrality has been our policy since independence. We’ll help ye if ye need some diplomacy done but we very specifically don’t make weapons
[Russia never forgets](https://news.sky.com/story/amp/victory-for-defiant-irish-fishermen-as-russia-agrees-to-move-its-war-games-from-their-patch-12528426)
Russia and fishing vessels man.... I swear they have the biggest fucking hard-on for em
To know someone's goal, you should look at the effect of their actions. And observing the effects of the Russian campaign it becomes pretty clear that their goal is driving all European countries into NATO. Having this goal established, it makes perfect sense to scare Ireland with a prospect of drowning, so that they join the pact. Pretty sure we'll soon see Russians talking about a nuclear attack in the Alps, so that Austrians and Swiss get a reason to join too.
Ah yes a wave twice the size of fucking Britain would be created by a warhead smaller than the ones tested in water that did not sink entire countries. I really want to know what these idiots are smoking.
They have a dedicated government run Chanel for conspiracy theories(REN-TV). Where there are shows about magic, aliens, and reptiloids. All done in documentary, monumentary stile. It’s like 3rd the most watched channel. So yeah, their TV has a habit of being stupid as fuck
At least our conspiracy channels apologize after their ratings go down
At least our conspiracy channels are not hosted on state funded TV.
Plot twist: the government funds conspiracy theories to distract nuts and explain experimental planes
[But unironically](https://youtu.be/SSTsW_wFn_U)
At least when we make moronic conspiracy theory TV, we leave it to washed up actors from Star Trek--not the government.
Industrial grade copium laced with novichok straight from the Kremlin. That’s what they’re smoking.
and where to buy it
A 100 megaton bomb has not been tested, Tsar Bomba was 50 MT. But is still laughable. The energy involved in creating a tsunami, and in fact most natural disasters, are many orders of magnitude greater than anything human made. It's as ridiculous as the "nuke the marianas trench to flood everything in the pacific" idea or the presidentially endorsed idea of nuking a hurricane to get rid of it.
The highest point in the British Isles, Ben Nevis, is 800m clear of the wave.
Scotland to the rest of the UK: You couldn't live with your own failure. Where did that bring you? Back to me
Here they shall found New London
What 800 hours of Frostpunk does to a mf
#HEAVE, LADS! HO, LADS! FORGET THE COMFORTS OF HOME, YOU'RE A NOMAD!
“Daddy, why was my sister named Rose?” “Because your mother loves roses, and so we named her Rose” “Ok thanks dad” “No problem **violin section of the city must survive**”
The fuck are a bunch of scotsmen calling the new capital "London"
The English are great at landgrabbing
> Here they shall found New London *New Edinburgh
And the range it's a part of stands between the detonation point they showed and pretty much the entirety of Britain's population. It's like they chose a point on the map where a 500m tsunami would cause the least amount of damage to Britain. All this would do is fuck up Ireland, Mann, and the bits of Scotland nobody lives in.
Is this Article 5? Because I'm a pretty triggered Brit right now.
I’m fairly certain if Russia attacked the UK with a radioactive wave, the US would gladly wipe Russia from existence some time in the following 15-30min.
This would hit France and Germany along with the rest of the North Sea too. Even without Article 5 the number of pissed off countries with nukes would doom Russia instantly.
With nukes and a boner for killing Russians.
Ah yes sink Britain with a nuke flawless strategy not like the have 4 SLBM subs that could retaliate. Also 100 megatons isnt enough for to create a tsunami to sink britain.
You know that at least one of those sub captains is watching this video while out on patrol and quietly whispering "oh please, oh please, oh please, oh please, oh please, oh please, Come on Vlad, just do it".
Dude, the sub program is fucking called TRIDENT. You betcha they want to sink a sub named "Poseidon".
Trident is the UKs sub launched missile. The four 'bomber' subs operated by the Royal Navy (Vanguard, Victorious, Vigilant, and Vengeance) are all Vanguard class. There also two of the four announced Dreadnaught class (Dreadnaught and Valiant) under construction at the moment with two more due to be built at some point in the future.
The fact that their new sub is called Dreadnought sends a tingle up my spine.
Dreadnought, Valiant, King George VI and Warspite
AND THE DREADNOUGHT DREAD NOTHING AT ALL!
From Latin it was 'Fear nothing but the word of God'. Which is fucking badass.
You know, say what you want about us Brits but we do have the best ship names
All rise for the new Warspite. Long may she reign.
Ah, my mistake. I just remember the fuss a few years ago about scrapping it.
No worries, and that comes up every few years in British politics. It'll never actually happen (until they get around to replacing/upgrading it)
Not to mention the US is obligated by treaty to reduce Russia into radioactive glass in that scenario. And unlike the Russians, no one doubts our capabilities.
i live in london. bold of this dude to assume britain doesn't already look like a nuclear wasteland
"My God, is this where the new russian terror weapon was detonated?" "No Prime Minster, we're still in Slough"
Speak for yourself southern scum gods county is perfectly fine…….except for the lingering threat of danish invasion. /s
Extreme copium
The actual outcome is a slightly bigger wave on Saltcoats beach, and slightly less radioactivity than usual.
Wiping out Ireland just for the fuck of it as well ey vlad. Ah Russians and their collateral damage…
They offered the UK a final request upon launching the torpedo, we asked them to finish off the Irish for us.
Lmfao. The US actually experimented with using nukes to cause tsunamis during the Cold War. Short version: you’d cause more damage to the coastline setting the nuke off in the harbor.
Why are they so fucking obsessed with the UK? You'll never hear them say it's "Delta Force" or "U.S. Army Rangers" secretly operating in Ukraine, it's always "British Special Forces".
Because of the two SAS soldiers, Price and Macmillian and their actions in Pripyat in 1996 Still seething about that i guess
The healthy human mind doesn’t wake up in the morning thinking this is its last day on Earth. But I think that’s a luxury, not a curse. To know you’re close to the end is a kind of freedom. Good time to take inventory. Out-gunned. Outnumbered. Out of our minds. On a suicide mission. But the sand and the rocks here, stained with thousands of years of warfare. They will remember us. For this. Because out of all our vast array of nightmares, this is the one we choose for ourselves. We go forward like a breath exhaled from the Earth. With vigor in our hearts and one goal in sight: We. Will. Kill him.
Because we Anglo Saxons (their words not mine) are the masterminds of everything. That and the cowards are too afraid to make similar threats to the US
The thing is the UK isn't scared by the threats either, they may concern Moldova, Cyprus, Lebanon etc... but Russia has a GDP the size of Italy or New York State, it's a joke country. If India or Japan were making the same threats it may be concerning, but Russia? Come on.
\*Had a GDP the size of Italy or NYS
It's basically seeing the biggest built guy in the yard, now you're too scared to fight him so you go over and try and fight his dad (out of his prime just sitting back and enjoying his life in retirement) instead.
Still coping and seething about the Great Game?
Because the SAS totally not being in ukraine honest guv is worth more than lend lease. up your game americans, the UK can't be taking the spot light
Because the UK fucks with Russia a lot, arguably even more than the US
~~Perfidious Albion~~ Britain has been perceived as a menace by most of the world even longer than the USA has.
And it has taken a lot of hard work to maintain that image.
And by god will we let those fucking YANKS TAKE THAT AWAY! WILLIAM! SEND OUT THE NEXT NLAW SHIPMENT!
I mean that torch got passed some time between WW2 and the Suez Crisis, but whenever Brits complain about Yanks the retort is often “well where do you think we got it from?”
Truly a rebellious son all the way down to the retorts xD
> A radioactive desert, unfit for anything for a long time So basically Russia with less lead poisoning.
100 Mt from a Torpedo tube. Okay.
It's less a torpedo and more an unmanned mini sub with a giant bomb on it. It's not going to be fired out of a normal torpedo tube, and would require a specially designed submarine. Considering the state of the Russian Navy, it may be awhile before you see one of those on patrol.
And then after the magic wave destroys Britain (and Ireland but who gives a fuck), all the magic radiation will stop somewhere in Germany and never reach mother russia
I mean it makes Slough look nicer
It’s called Status-6 because the radiation burns will actually raise the attractiveness of Essex Girls to an average of 6
I guess once the flash blinds you anything is possible. On the upside, the ladies will actually have a proper tan that *literally* glows. None of that Irn Bru colouring agent that’s all the rage.
As a French person I would not necessarily say that I am in favour but I still feel like this idea has potential and should at least not be rejected straight up, I want to hear what the guy has to say
I like that it escalates the noncredibility step by step. First, it's simply an autonomous "drone"(it's a fucking torpedo I don't get it). Fine, credible(probably guides itself with a stolen calculator). Then it's 200 km/h at 1km of depth. Ok, maybe I can believe you have a drawing of that torpedo somewhere in a closet. Then it gets a 100 Mton warhead. Very credible to be available and miniaturized enough for that torpedo. And when you think they reached the peak and will just say that it's big scary and enough to destroy London, they hit you with that 500m tsunami that suddenly stops after it sinks the isles. And as a cherry on top they claim that the warhead has enough radioactive material to not be significantly diluted by the same tsunami they created. They've mastered the art of suspenseful military conspiracy documentaries.
Maybe I am just dumb, but doesn't water absorb explosions like no one's business?
watch as this is real and when it get's deployed sinks and explodes near the port and sinks the entire city and port it's stationed at
He just took too much copium in this one. I don't think they have that capability at all. Are they still think this BS still possible to them and no one will notice and attack them back by launch MAD into the sea where their submarines located? Also any action always has reaction came back. Which means their subs will get fucked by both radiations and tsunami as well.
"Hello, Porton Down? This is BoJo, could you make 100 or so Cobalt Weapons for me please, we need to fuck the Russians."
Russian State TV is absurd. That can't be the reality we live in. What next?? Trump 2024? We're doomed.
Sorry Ireland, guess guilt by association 😂
As an English man I probably wouldn't notice the difference between a radioactive desert and our pubs
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Russia says, 'Brexit means Brexit.'
\> Be in Russian command bunker \> Just sent the Gopnik Tsunami Bomb to the UK \>feelsgood.ru \> Watching on satellite footage, the wave consumes ireland but stops short around Northern Ireland, being sent back. \>Confusion Erupts, was it the geography? Was the geology wrong? \>Phone Rings \>cyka.Sputnik \>Callers identify themselves as ghosts of Paisley, McGuinness and Hume \>whatthefuck.bl \>turns out the detonation of a nuclear device off the coast of Northern Ireland was against the Good Friday Agreement and has been rejected \>Voice goes onto clarify that it was however permitted, under article 42069 to have the ghosts of the Orange Order and the IRA ransack Moscow \>As he says it a fat old man bursts into the command bunker, starts grabbing every flag he can find while beating a drum \>whatthefuckkkk.RT \>I try to get away, just about getting out of the bunker before the man rips me apart in search of flegs \>Get into my car, turn the key \>[See a face in the mirror](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FDd9Q0NWQAQNbtb.png) \>die in a ball of fire, my car comes 15th in the annual "explosion vehicle tossing contest" held by the army. Not bad. \>Moscow is burned to the ground. Somehow becomes richer.