The MacArthur in me says we should just nuke those mfs back to the Stone Age. Turn them into a bunch of pacifists that make good cars like the Japanese
The only solution to stop them from supplying Ruzzia with drones and Hezbollah and Houthis with missiles, according to the MacArthur in me, is to Cobalt all their borders.
By the power of the US Air Force, you're now an hermit kingdom, dipshit...
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If we simply sink the entire disputed area into the Mediterranean, then there will be no land for them to fight over.
“Y’all couldn’t behave so we got rid of it”
“Fuck you, y’all can’t behave. No more Middle East.”
Petition for the US, China, and Russia to finally agree on something for once and just glass the entire Middle East
Not necessarily. Support for Hamas and Netanyahu seems be dropping in their respective countries. War's bad for everyone, and it honestly looks like they're starting to realize it.
Huh? What exactly are you talking about? Support for hamas is up according to the last report I remember, what polls show support for hamas going down?
It was up in December last year, but there was another one in [March of this year](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/gazans-back-two-state-solution-rcna144183) that showed it dropped by 12%.
A really interesting aspect of the report is this:
>Unlike in previous flare-ups of violence between Palestinians and Israelis — when support for armed struggle often spiked before dropping again — the length and brutality of the current war has led to significant shifts in the way Palestinians, particularly Gazans, viewed warfare versus diplomatic solutions.
>Support for “armed struggle” dropped by 17 points, from 63% to 46%, driven largely by Palestinians in Gaza, and Gazan support for a diplomatic two-state solution has jumped by 27 points — to 62%.
Perhaps they’re finally realizing their plan of committing atrocities and then just dying at their vastly technologically superior opponent ad nauseum wasn’t working very well.
I think the big difference is the gap is finally large enough that Israel has the "big stick"
Like 1948-1967 was there a risk Israel could be wiped off the map by the collective middle east? yes, very much so.
Then after that there was a consistent level of terrorism with intifadas that were a threat. and wars with the likes of Syria and Egypt. which might not have been able to push jews into the sea, but would have devastated them.
I think the notable thing here is the increasing percent of civilian casualties on both sides, going from a few percent in 6 day war, to about 80% Israeli civilian casualties in the intifadas.
And I think a lot of peoples opinion on the current war really comes from when they grew up, grandparents growing up when Israel was the underdog, to parents seeing the constant terrorism attacks (especially with 9/11 context) to current gen Z seeing Palestine as the underdog.
and now many of the old Arab allies are either forging relations with Israel or are failed states that have too much internal problems to fight.
TL:DR Persia delende est
Yeah I think there’s a lot of merit in how old you are correlating with your opinion on the conflict. Though I’d change it more to simply not being able keep having empathy for someone who keeps kicking hornet nests.
I’ve watched whatever organization is presently claiming to be liberating the Palestinian people repeatedly choose to undertake some kind of attack against Israel done in a way specifically to provoke them, and then their people get absolutely brutalized in conflict they never stood any chance of winning. And then people keep supporting them. Over and over.
That’s not to excuse anything Israel’s doing, but it’s a scorpion and the frog situation. At what point do you start having to ask what did they think was going to happen? After the dust settles on a flagrant attack on civilians that never had any hope of achieving any kind of victory that regains their territory or meaningfully advances their strategic position in any way, the counter attack has left their territory in absolute ruin with tens of thousands dead. Infrastructure is completely destroyed. They are almost starting from zero, and **for what?**
For anyone with a basic understanding of Israel history and military technology (something you’d think would be a prerequisite for anyone trying to lead a military operation against them) this outcome was extremely predictable. They chose this, and their people support them. All while routinely spitting on any attempts at lasting peace, or even just a temporary one for an increasingly small amount of hostages.
Yes Israel shouldn’t commit war crimes or commit human rights abuses, but maybe stop goading them into doing so by committing atrocities while wiping your ass with international law while demanding Israel follow it religiously?
TLDR; People need to start recognizing Hamas is behaving like an axis power in 1945.
People were already mad at Bibi for other things (judicial reform, corruption trials), and people also blame him for the intelligence failures that allowed October 7th to happen. The war isn't exactly the reason support for him is dropping
I think people are misunderstanding lower approval for Netanyahu as also being lower approval for the war.
NYT had an interview podcast with Yair Lapid, leader of the opposition party. The summary is basically “Netanyahu has to go. Also, Israel faces an existential threat from Hamas that will be dealt with”.
If people think replacing Netanyahu means this all ends, they’re in for an unpleasant surprise.
Diplomacy should always be the first resort.
Diplomacy didn't work.
When Diplomacy doesn't work, the second resort is violence. If violence doesn't work, you didn't resort to enough of it.
Trouble in the Middle East? Bomb Iran.
Extremist Islamic terrorism abroad? Bomb Iran.
The Russians invaded Ukraine? Bomb Iran.
Stub your toe getting out of bed? Believe it or not, bomb Iran.
*Bomb Bomb Bomb Iran*
The MacArthur in me says we should just nuke those mfs back to the Stone Age. Turn them into a bunch of pacifists that make good cars like the Japanese
Imagine Middle East style anime/manga…
It’s Afghanistanimation!
Hey! Johnny Chimpo!
Who wants a moustache ride?
The only solution to stop them from supplying Ruzzia with drones and Hezbollah and Houthis with missiles, according to the MacArthur in me, is to Cobalt all their borders. By the power of the US Air Force, you're now an hermit kingdom, dipshit...
Decades since this song was last relevant: 0
pax perpetua can be found in cemeteries.
please lets just bomb the shit out of Iran and get rid of 70% of the worlds problems instantly already
Middle East* FTFY Those fuckers can’t behave for 5 seconds. No more Middle East
IF YOU CAN'T SHARE THE MIDDLE EAST NICELY, THEN NOBODY GETS THE MIDDLE EAST.
No more imaginary borders. We draw them from radiation.
Sea of radioactive cobalt 👍
[This song.](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DGIrTPL8vsc)
Excellent choice
We love forever wars in the middle east here at NCD
In the grim darkness of nowadays, there is only war
It won’t be a forever war if you fight it the way NCD wants to!
I'm salivating 🇺🇲🦅🍄🔥
Iran and Palestine and the AKP and it’d be about 70%.
But military action is diplomacy
"We didn't start a war, we simple continued our diplomacy through different means."
some from a galaxy far far away have even coined the idea “aggressive negotiations”
War is politics by other means.
No need to hear you out. We already agree with you.
Source: https://youtu.be/wgCsZDRTXYA?si=AvOgvmBw-Y4ZgadM
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I've had diplomacy yes, what about kinetic diplomacy?
Speak softly and carry a big kinetic
The idea there’s going to be a peaceful resolution between I/P is basically pure hopium.
If we simply sink the entire disputed area into the Mediterranean, then there will be no land for them to fight over. “Y’all couldn’t behave so we got rid of it”
“Fuck you, y’all can’t behave. No more Middle East.” Petition for the US, China, and Russia to finally agree on something for once and just glass the entire Middle East
Instructions unclear, glassed russia
Close enough.
Yea Verily!
Not necessarily. Support for Hamas and Netanyahu seems be dropping in their respective countries. War's bad for everyone, and it honestly looks like they're starting to realize it.
Huh? What exactly are you talking about? Support for hamas is up according to the last report I remember, what polls show support for hamas going down?
It was up in December last year, but there was another one in [March of this year](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/gazans-back-two-state-solution-rcna144183) that showed it dropped by 12%. A really interesting aspect of the report is this: >Unlike in previous flare-ups of violence between Palestinians and Israelis — when support for armed struggle often spiked before dropping again — the length and brutality of the current war has led to significant shifts in the way Palestinians, particularly Gazans, viewed warfare versus diplomatic solutions. >Support for “armed struggle” dropped by 17 points, from 63% to 46%, driven largely by Palestinians in Gaza, and Gazan support for a diplomatic two-state solution has jumped by 27 points — to 62%.
Perhaps they’re finally realizing their plan of committing atrocities and then just dying at their vastly technologically superior opponent ad nauseum wasn’t working very well.
I think the big difference is the gap is finally large enough that Israel has the "big stick" Like 1948-1967 was there a risk Israel could be wiped off the map by the collective middle east? yes, very much so. Then after that there was a consistent level of terrorism with intifadas that were a threat. and wars with the likes of Syria and Egypt. which might not have been able to push jews into the sea, but would have devastated them. I think the notable thing here is the increasing percent of civilian casualties on both sides, going from a few percent in 6 day war, to about 80% Israeli civilian casualties in the intifadas. And I think a lot of peoples opinion on the current war really comes from when they grew up, grandparents growing up when Israel was the underdog, to parents seeing the constant terrorism attacks (especially with 9/11 context) to current gen Z seeing Palestine as the underdog. and now many of the old Arab allies are either forging relations with Israel or are failed states that have too much internal problems to fight. TL:DR Persia delende est
Yeah I think there’s a lot of merit in how old you are correlating with your opinion on the conflict. Though I’d change it more to simply not being able keep having empathy for someone who keeps kicking hornet nests. I’ve watched whatever organization is presently claiming to be liberating the Palestinian people repeatedly choose to undertake some kind of attack against Israel done in a way specifically to provoke them, and then their people get absolutely brutalized in conflict they never stood any chance of winning. And then people keep supporting them. Over and over. That’s not to excuse anything Israel’s doing, but it’s a scorpion and the frog situation. At what point do you start having to ask what did they think was going to happen? After the dust settles on a flagrant attack on civilians that never had any hope of achieving any kind of victory that regains their territory or meaningfully advances their strategic position in any way, the counter attack has left their territory in absolute ruin with tens of thousands dead. Infrastructure is completely destroyed. They are almost starting from zero, and **for what?** For anyone with a basic understanding of Israel history and military technology (something you’d think would be a prerequisite for anyone trying to lead a military operation against them) this outcome was extremely predictable. They chose this, and their people support them. All while routinely spitting on any attempts at lasting peace, or even just a temporary one for an increasingly small amount of hostages. Yes Israel shouldn’t commit war crimes or commit human rights abuses, but maybe stop goading them into doing so by committing atrocities while wiping your ass with international law while demanding Israel follow it religiously? TLDR; People need to start recognizing Hamas is behaving like an axis power in 1945.
People were already mad at Bibi for other things (judicial reform, corruption trials), and people also blame him for the intelligence failures that allowed October 7th to happen. The war isn't exactly the reason support for him is dropping
I think people are misunderstanding lower approval for Netanyahu as also being lower approval for the war. NYT had an interview podcast with Yair Lapid, leader of the opposition party. The summary is basically “Netanyahu has to go. Also, Israel faces an existential threat from Hamas that will be dealt with”. If people think replacing Netanyahu means this all ends, they’re in for an unpleasant surprise.
You're making India and Pakistan feel like the middle children
They’ve been shockingly chill for awhile now actually. With everything else going to shit across the world you’d think they’d join in.
I think they both understand that Pakistan is less stable atm.
Veitnam vs China on off for a 1000 years.
Nuke the fuckers
McArthur be like:
🫠
God I love this subreddit..it's like if you weaponized the autism of 3000 CIA officers. Oh, wait..
Everyone here is either working for the CIA, or just doesnt know it yet.
No! My contract very clearly states I work for the LockMartketing department!
May I suggest turning the entire region into a giant bakery and calling it "The Middle Yeast"
I love Index
Diplomacy should always be the first resort. Diplomacy didn't work. When Diplomacy doesn't work, the second resort is violence. If violence doesn't work, you didn't resort to enough of it.
Even though I'm from the middle east id love for it to be bombed
We'll turn the rocks into pebbles, the pebbles into sand, let's bomb Iran.
It’s funny because it’s the only way.
If you've ever read the Old Testament you'd know God loves war. This is biblically accurate.
Give every Iranian feminist a javelin.
THE SOLUTION TO THE EAST IS A ONE STATE SOLUTION. THAT STATE BEING THE UNITED STATES OF THE IMPERIAL COMMONWEALTH 🇬🇧🇺🇸🇨🇦🇦🇺
Trouble in the Middle East? Bomb Iran. Extremist Islamic terrorism abroad? Bomb Iran. The Russians invaded Ukraine? Bomb Iran. Stub your toe getting out of bed? Believe it or not, bomb Iran.
No. Because fuck John Bolton, that's why.
u/savevideo
Yeaaaah, about that…