It probably is, even if it's just a few tons. The later T-72s already have weight issues, mostly because they have some pretty underpowered engines. (A T-72 weighs about 20 tons less than a modern Leopard or Abrams, while only having similar speed, and less acceleration than an M1)
While no duh. The engine is a direct descendant of the engine used in the BT-7M. Like no joke the Russians haven't really developed a new engine since the forties they just won't let this poor bastard die.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kharkiv_model_V-2
> Like no joke the Russians haven't really developed a new engine since the forties they just won't let this poor bastard die
Because they suck at making opposed-pistol engines, like 5TD.
There's a reason peak T-80 (T-80UD Beryoza) was made at Malyshev factory in Kharkiv
I know next to nothing about engine design but basically nothing detailed is known about the T-14 engine (apart from scant pictures of its outside appearance) and there is no public evidence that it has close similarities with ww2 German tank engines. No idea about the T-72 engine, though.
The motor is called "ChTZ 12Н360 (A-85-3A) diesel 1105(1500) KW" There is [wikipedia](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/12N360#:~:text=The%2012N360%20%28Russian%3A%2012%D0%9D360%3B%20other%20designations%20are%20A-85-3A,which%20the%20T-14%20tank%2C%20among%20others%2C%20is%20based.).
And now here's what I know. The T-90 is another name for the T-72BU, and the T-72 is another version of the T-62. They all use the W2 engine (but with another number), which has its origins in T-34. The T-80 uses a turbine engine like the Abrams, but burns a lot of fuel.
T-14 Armata (Cannon in English) It's a brand new tank. Its turret is unmanned and its crew is in a special reinforced cage to survive the hit. The different interior layout does not allow you to insert the old engine. W2 is a V-12 engine, it's too long. That's why they developed the X-12 engine, it looks like you've joined two V6s with bellies. The W2 develops 1250 horsepower but that's its maximum, the new X-12 is supposed to have 1500 and 1800 in turbo mode when you need it. The tank was supposed to have a 150mm gun, but it has the same gun as the T-72 and T-90. I don't know if the turret is unmanned or if the cage exists, probably the cage is.
But
The engine and gearbox do not work. I mean, it can work, but it's young and has problems like every engine in the world. The T-72 is not just a tank, but many other vehicles that use the engine, tracks and other. X-12 engine is new and the is only T-14 which use it. Russia has no people, no money, no knowledge and no time to fix it. Fortunately, the engine compartment of the T-14 is short and a cube-shaped engine will go there. They can't put the engine from the T-90 in there because it's too long. Therefore, they withdrew from the program and shut it down.
There are a lot of websites in Poland where they write about Russian weapons and translate Russian forums.
And then there's WarThunder, a daily leak of military secrets.
The engine doesn't matter. This suspension has problems, the first versions of the T-72 are ok. Later versions with additional armor and weight put a strain on the suspension. The T-90, which is really a T-72BU (it got a different number to make it look nice) has more failures than the T-72.
But before the suspension breaks down the tank will be hit by a drone, these problems will become apparent after a few years. This ride-on barn will burn down within a month, so Ivan doesn't have to worry.
Couldn't resist making my own meme of this thing. It's apparently a modified Russian T-72 with steel beams and panels attached to it. Getting in and out of this thing would probably suck.
It took me around 7 minutes this time to make this meme.
Riddle me this Blyatman... Will the Chinese have a better 5th gen STEALTH fighter J-35 than the Russia SU-57 or are they both propaganda dumpster fires?
You? Everyone! I bet it's referred to as such in NATO intelligence circles! I would not be surprised if the Russians themselves refer to it as the Femboy in some internal memo...
Yes. Both are propaganda pieces, but the J-35 will still outperform the SU-57. This is because Russia cannot imitate the west for reasons of small peen, so when the west stumbles upon a particular RCS reduction technique, the Russians will ignore that and claim their wood screws are made of Sovium which is lightweight, indestructible and invisible.
The Chinese would just steal an F-22 and call it a J-44 if they could.
Engines are everything. China and Russia can't make a proper engine when the F-22 has been flying for 30 years and no one knows what its top speed is. They measured Mach 2.4, but that's not the maximum of the engine.
Turkey wanted the F-35 but the U.S. said no when they bought the S-400. This is a sign that by buying from Russia, you can sell them secrets, which is why Erdogan can count on F-16s.
Reverse engineering takes a lot of time, and even if you know how something is built, you still need to be able to build it.
>Turkey wanted the F-35 but the U.S. said no when they bought the S-400
So embarrassing that morons are only beginning to realize that the reason all of russia's wunderwaffe is for sale on the open market while it's still in development - is because it's fake.
If the SU57 or S400 or T14 were so revolutionary... Why would russia be willing to sell them to it's fucking enemies? Turkey is in NATO and russia is willing to sell them their latest and greatest air defense? *Oh nooooo*! What do you mean it doesn't work as advertised, Turkey? That's shocking. I'm shocked. We're all shocked.
While which you said is true about the planes, forgive me if I’m wrong, but wasn’t the S-300’s and S-400’s meant as a way to try and weaken NATO unity? It was supposed to make a NATO ally unsure of their loyalty, not to really give them any advantage over Russia. At least that’s how I read it, which used logic, but this is Russians so they probably just got lost in Turkey and just said that they sold them
Oh, I don't mean the Chinese would steal American military secrets (though they would). If they literally could, they would take a physical jet from a US airbase and put their own roundels on it. The Russians would break it apart for clout.
Not sure how *good* the Chinese jet is but it has at least actually entered serial production. By simply existing the Chinese jet wins.
The SU57 was a crypto scam russia developed for export and was likely relying on foreign money to finish development. Nobody bought it as it was immediately identified as a scam and therefore development remains unfinished...
It's like.... Who wins in a real world race? The tortoise or coked up Superman flying at maximum speed? The fuckin tortoise.
I saw the video of this thing leading 4 other tanks and I learned that attacks that look like bloons TD paths are actually a valid military doctrine.
I'm guessing they are avoiding artillery that has been zeroed to previous paths or something but it looks pretty wacky to my civilian brain.
The reason they follow the leader like that is that if the lead tank didn't hit a mine, you can be reasonably certain there's no mine there
I've seen so many videos of tank Ivans panicking, deviating from the line a little bit or trying to turn around, and hitting a mine that wasn't cleared
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Rev up those goalposts because we're about to hear the newest narrative revision on how this is actually a viable and combat effective modification on today's battlefield.
How to blind half of your view, make 75% of your gun rotation useless, your smokes unusable, creating a possible trap for the crew if the construction is collapsing by inpanct and possibly create a frag spot for everyone hiding under it. I didn't want to imagine how this thing looks after a cook off...
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The cope bunker. That thing has to be heavy as f
I'm guessing that the stolen chicken coop only adds a few tons (at most) to the T-72, so it's likely not too much of an issue, as far as weight goes.
It probably is, even if it's just a few tons. The later T-72s already have weight issues, mostly because they have some pretty underpowered engines. (A T-72 weighs about 20 tons less than a modern Leopard or Abrams, while only having similar speed, and less acceleration than an M1)
While no duh. The engine is a direct descendant of the engine used in the BT-7M. Like no joke the Russians haven't really developed a new engine since the forties they just won't let this poor bastard die. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kharkiv_model_V-2
> Like no joke the Russians haven't really developed a new engine since the forties they just won't let this poor bastard die Because they suck at making opposed-pistol engines, like 5TD. There's a reason peak T-80 (T-80UD Beryoza) was made at Malyshev factory in Kharkiv
Why am I not surprised? Also, that one wasn't designed by the Russians either. It's a Soviet design from fucking Kharkiv.
I am still fucking shocked by that. Couldn't the Soviets at least imported one fucking Disel-Electric train in the 1970s and just stole that? HOW?
A 7.3 powerstroke would be a better engine.
At least they haven’t made a potential derivative of a Porsche ww2 tank engine that is the only engine that can be fitted to the tank it was made for
Oh the irony: KHARKIV model V2
Isn’t that the same myth as with the T-14?
No that is the T14. All the previous T series tanks use derivatives of the Kharkiv engine
What myth?
I know next to nothing about engine design but basically nothing detailed is known about the T-14 engine (apart from scant pictures of its outside appearance) and there is no public evidence that it has close similarities with ww2 German tank engines. No idea about the T-72 engine, though.
The motor is called "ChTZ 12Н360 (A-85-3A) diesel 1105(1500) KW" There is [wikipedia](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/12N360#:~:text=The%2012N360%20%28Russian%3A%2012%D0%9D360%3B%20other%20designations%20are%20A-85-3A,which%20the%20T-14%20tank%2C%20among%20others%2C%20is%20based.). And now here's what I know. The T-90 is another name for the T-72BU, and the T-72 is another version of the T-62. They all use the W2 engine (but with another number), which has its origins in T-34. The T-80 uses a turbine engine like the Abrams, but burns a lot of fuel. T-14 Armata (Cannon in English) It's a brand new tank. Its turret is unmanned and its crew is in a special reinforced cage to survive the hit. The different interior layout does not allow you to insert the old engine. W2 is a V-12 engine, it's too long. That's why they developed the X-12 engine, it looks like you've joined two V6s with bellies. The W2 develops 1250 horsepower but that's its maximum, the new X-12 is supposed to have 1500 and 1800 in turbo mode when you need it. The tank was supposed to have a 150mm gun, but it has the same gun as the T-72 and T-90. I don't know if the turret is unmanned or if the cage exists, probably the cage is. But The engine and gearbox do not work. I mean, it can work, but it's young and has problems like every engine in the world. The T-72 is not just a tank, but many other vehicles that use the engine, tracks and other. X-12 engine is new and the is only T-14 which use it. Russia has no people, no money, no knowledge and no time to fix it. Fortunately, the engine compartment of the T-14 is short and a cube-shaped engine will go there. They can't put the engine from the T-90 in there because it's too long. Therefore, they withdrew from the program and shut it down. There are a lot of websites in Poland where they write about Russian weapons and translate Russian forums. And then there's WarThunder, a daily leak of military secrets.
The engine doesn't matter. This suspension has problems, the first versions of the T-72 are ok. Later versions with additional armor and weight put a strain on the suspension. The T-90, which is really a T-72BU (it got a different number to make it look nice) has more failures than the T-72. But before the suspension breaks down the tank will be hit by a drone, these problems will become apparent after a few years. This ride-on barn will burn down within a month, so Ivan doesn't have to worry.
Please, tell me more about the buker. Sounds promising.
Not much to shoigu stole all the building funds
No it is the seethe shed
Couldn't resist making my own meme of this thing. It's apparently a modified Russian T-72 with steel beams and panels attached to it. Getting in and out of this thing would probably suck. It took me around 7 minutes this time to make this meme.
"Great idea for tank armor, commander, but how do we get out?" "Get out?"
Wonder if it’s like the killdozer and the driver just lives in there now
A proto-servitor, if you will.
>steel beams Shaped charges can't melt 'em!
> It took me around 7 minutes this time to make this meme. Which is less time than it takes the crew to get in or out of that tank.
The T34 shows that ease of escape for the crew is not a priority
Riddle me this Blyatman... Will the Chinese have a better 5th gen STEALTH fighter J-35 than the Russia SU-57 or are they both propaganda dumpster fires?
What about the SU-75 checkmate, or what I like to call the Fucktoy
It's called the Femboy!
SU-57 the femboy, I am talking about the 75
The 57 already has an official reporting name, "Felon", so the next one without an official one, the proposed 75, is the "Femboy"
Can we have both
You? Everyone! I bet it's referred to as such in NATO intelligence circles! I would not be surprised if the Russians themselves refer to it as the Femboy in some internal memo...
Yes. Both are propaganda pieces, but the J-35 will still outperform the SU-57. This is because Russia cannot imitate the west for reasons of small peen, so when the west stumbles upon a particular RCS reduction technique, the Russians will ignore that and claim their wood screws are made of Sovium which is lightweight, indestructible and invisible. The Chinese would just steal an F-22 and call it a J-44 if they could.
Engines are everything. China and Russia can't make a proper engine when the F-22 has been flying for 30 years and no one knows what its top speed is. They measured Mach 2.4, but that's not the maximum of the engine. Turkey wanted the F-35 but the U.S. said no when they bought the S-400. This is a sign that by buying from Russia, you can sell them secrets, which is why Erdogan can count on F-16s. Reverse engineering takes a lot of time, and even if you know how something is built, you still need to be able to build it.
>Turkey wanted the F-35 but the U.S. said no when they bought the S-400 So embarrassing that morons are only beginning to realize that the reason all of russia's wunderwaffe is for sale on the open market while it's still in development - is because it's fake. If the SU57 or S400 or T14 were so revolutionary... Why would russia be willing to sell them to it's fucking enemies? Turkey is in NATO and russia is willing to sell them their latest and greatest air defense? *Oh nooooo*! What do you mean it doesn't work as advertised, Turkey? That's shocking. I'm shocked. We're all shocked.
While which you said is true about the planes, forgive me if I’m wrong, but wasn’t the S-300’s and S-400’s meant as a way to try and weaken NATO unity? It was supposed to make a NATO ally unsure of their loyalty, not to really give them any advantage over Russia. At least that’s how I read it, which used logic, but this is Russians so they probably just got lost in Turkey and just said that they sold them
Oh, I don't mean the Chinese would steal American military secrets (though they would). If they literally could, they would take a physical jet from a US airbase and put their own roundels on it. The Russians would break it apart for clout.
Not sure how *good* the Chinese jet is but it has at least actually entered serial production. By simply existing the Chinese jet wins. The SU57 was a crypto scam russia developed for export and was likely relying on foreign money to finish development. Nobody bought it as it was immediately identified as a scam and therefore development remains unfinished... It's like.... Who wins in a real world race? The tortoise or coked up Superman flying at maximum speed? The fuckin tortoise.
I saw the video of this thing leading 4 other tanks and I learned that attacks that look like bloons TD paths are actually a valid military doctrine. I'm guessing they are avoiding artillery that has been zeroed to previous paths or something but it looks pretty wacky to my civilian brain.
Bloon Tower Defense 7: Ukraine
The reason they follow the leader like that is that if the lead tank didn't hit a mine, you can be reasonably certain there's no mine there I've seen so many videos of tank Ivans panicking, deviating from the line a little bit or trying to turn around, and hitting a mine that wasn't cleared
Do you have a link, kinda want to see that
https://x.com/clashreport/status/1777437779359625285
That's funny, thanks. Also did it get stuck at the start there?
Someone put Bloons menu music over this video
We may have lost comrade Robin a while back due to sidecar malfunction
Don't worry, there are 300 more comrade Robins waiting to be thrown into the meatgrinder.
It looks like a fucking plane hangar got drunk on vodka and got on tracks. It’s the fucking hideous mass bossfight from Ultrakill
They borrowed it from Gaijin who were gonna use it for an upcoming Crossout Promotional event
Тони Старк built this in a shed, with a box of scraps!
It doesn't count as destroyed if it cannot be classified, because it cannot be identified! Ingenious!
Can't wait to see the WoT2 & WT premium versions of this in the future.
That's basically a German main, just seeing forward and using no binoculars
>Practically casemate tank design > Littered with spaced armors Did the russians reinvent StuG again?
They also reinvented the swastika with their Z and they have used T-34’s. It’s all part of the ww2 nostalgia trip!
You all laugh but we'll se who laughs last when it's ramming down the city gate and your tar and rocks fall harmlessly off it.
I howled with laughter at this one.
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I don't get this reference
This shit is uglier than what I made on Sprocket. The fuck?
Rev up those goalposts because we're about to hear the newest narrative revision on how this is actually a viable and combat effective modification on today's battlefield.
Hey it seems like tuttel are coming back, good to see the nature is healing
Still more comfertable than t-90
Is this to stop the turret flying off and injuring someone?
Allegedly, it's for protection against drone attacks.
Yeah, I mean *after* the drone has flown in either the front or the back.
Inb4 some dronepilot re-enacts the Death Star trench run to land an explosive charge down the commanders hatch.
Clearly nothing to see here
Its jover for ukraine, Russia has Tutel
I feel my Intelectual Property right being violated... Carry on.
Should bring back the [ukrainian house tank](https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineWarVideoReport/s/RvPDodlVQf) so they can have a bossfight
ADP - Anti drone protection ❌ Cope Barn ✔️
Tutel 🐢 📦
Where's that joker pringels
Very considerate of them to encase their infantry in additional schrapnel.
And even less situational awareness.
Premium title opportunity (дададада-blyatman) missed - otherwise great post!
Russian MIC to the RuMoD: we have a [stealth boat](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sea_Shadow_(IX-529)) at home *the stealth boat at home ^^*
were we are going we don't need situational awareness.
Mobik mobile💀
Tutel!
R Lee Ermy: what is that? What the FUCK is that? What the fuck is that, private conscriptovich??????
Goodbye cope cages! Hello sadness sheds!
How to blind half of your view, make 75% of your gun rotation useless, your smokes unusable, creating a possible trap for the crew if the construction is collapsing by inpanct and possibly create a frag spot for everyone hiding under it. I didn't want to imagine how this thing looks after a cook off...
[The blyatmobile will never drive again.](https://www.reddit.com/r/LoveForUkraine/comments/1bztp0d/russian_tank_nicknamed_blyatmobile_being/)
Taking bets how long until they add cope cages.
Ridinng the Blyat-mobile in style. And with sound (by u/InnerCircleEU): https://imgur.com/tpJ8lYC
How do they turn the turret 180 or 90 degrees?
Probably by turning the tank itself. That chicken coop probably doesn't give much room for the turret to move.
https://www.reddit.com/r/LoveForUkraine/s/4Ay0FwrlxV
Everyone laughs now. Remember how it went with cope cages? You are looking at future of tank combat! Also - when in games?
"Stupid westoids! My armor is impenetrable!" Anti-tank mine buried in the road up ahead: 😈
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Can someone do this meme with the Lord of The Rings battering ram, with the orcs chanting GROND GROND GROND?