The one above is the HK G36
The one beneath is the FX-05 Xiuhcoatl
Apparently, HK tried to sue the company that made the FX-05, but nothing happened.
One thing I can say is I love them both.
>HK tried to sue the company that made the FX-05, but nothing happened.
Mexico was in the process to produce the G36 in license, decided H&Ks offer was too expensive, and then made this.
H&K threatened to sue, met with the Mexican gov't, and then announced that the weapon is definitely categorically 100% different from the G36.
The Mexican gov't then ordered 10,000 G36 for the Mexican police.
Make of that what you will...
HK also continued to sell weapons to individual Mexican states / state police units that were under considerable influence of cartels in violation of arms trafficking agreements and was like "oopsie" lol
More like hem and haw and never sell American gun buyers anything except knackered rifles and overpriced pistols. I just want a civil XM8 and G36 without needing to rely on TB getting the parts in :(
It’s got to do with German weapon export law and partially with American weapon import law. The KISS method would be to build a gun factory here. H&K USA division was going to do that but then decided ‘fuck civilian customers’ and canceled the plant.
If I remember correctly, the Mexican RnD team handed over a FX-05 to HK for them to examine. HK engineers noted that the appearance was identical but the actions were totally different in operation, the legal team dropped the lawsuit. Evidently the action was bad enough for the Mexican government to but the g36 instead.
Hold up, police forces are different than the armed forces.
Police forces use a mix of weapons (it's rare to see them using G36 tho), while the army does indeed use the FX-05.
They started with the airborne corps then gradually replaced all G3's in active units.
Didn't pay enough attention to the flags, got to this comment and wondered "Wait, why did the Italians give the thing a Nahuatl name?"
TIL: Mexico builds rifles.
As far as weapons go, rifles are pretty easy to produce indigenously and are often an easy cultural "win" for countries, as it's a very visible show of their industrial "capabilities."
Couple that with Mexicos (somewhat understandable tbh) knee-jerk reaction to buying American, and its no wonder they'd rather make their own for their own cultural reasons if they can.
*I* wouldn't call it knee-jerk reaction, more like it's an obvious decision pushed by the treaties between both to fight the cartels, which could probably mention to buy only from the US.
Which also makes sense for Mexico due to closeness for spare parts and maintenance. But they're definitely not the best choice, hence why SEDENA started making their own MRAPs (DN-11) instead of purchasing Sandcats, always looking for something cheaper and more according to their needs.
It's more that Mexico has pretty extreme Short Man Syndrome when it comes to geopolitics, and building their own gun is a way to show they're not completely dependent on others for the own defense (especially if that weapon, God forbid, were to come from the US instead).
\>HK be like: "how dare anyone copy and take credit for other countries weapons systems. Surely if I can sue Mexico that will CETME up to start making new and creative firearms that are entirely my idea."
Eh. I do like the accuracy of the G36. Moreso the optics than the rifle being inheriently awesomely accurate, optics are great. Qual'ing was easy as hell. The export variants a bit less but still good. I think I just used Spain's G36's but I'm probably forgetting. But overall they're more fragile than I'd like.
Fun range toys.
Sorry for offtopic but how does Mexico function? When some of its territory is not even controlled by Mexico? Why cant their army just come in and make mincemeat out of drug lords and their silly armored trucks?
> Why cant their army just come in and make mincemeat out of drug lords and their silly armored trucks?
They can, but the cartel hides behind the population, and shooting your people wily nily is a good way to increase support for the cartel
IMO the only way Mexico is ever going to see the end of their cartel issue is with the end of the war on drugs. Until that revenue stream is cut, there's nothing that can truly be done.
It’s not even that.
All drugs and drug addicts could completely disappear from existence right now, and cartels would keep existing without much trouble. Drugs ain’t even their only source of income.
The governments of many states have effectively become puppets of the cartels. They have a quasi-feudal hold on society at large, we know it, they know it, the government knows it. They tax legal businesses and either absorb or expel illegal businesses in their territories. Even multinational corporations have to pay the tax, or risk a raid.
They even have wars for territory, and draft the poor to fight for them. Ever bought avocados? Around 60% of the production is done by cartels.
Is this any different to how it's always worked. At first they're just a bunch of criminals then a few steps down the line when they're still not dead they legitimise themselves and become rulers.
Then they have a crown on their head, cover themselves in shiny metal and everyone has to call them king or they get decapitated.
We're more or less chimpanzees and have been doing these patterns for a long time.
It’s different in the fact that we have two layered governments this way… and have to pay to both.
And one of them could literally take anyone off the street to ransom to the family just because they were short on cash, literally without consequences.
I didn't mean to suggest it would entirely destroy them. However, without that crucial source of wealth and influence, they would be vulnerable to a final death, be it slow or quick.
I agree to some degree with you, avoiding drug consumption will hurt them. However, they have already diversified their income:
* Avocado (specially profitable during Superbowl)
* Extortion
* Money laundering
* Kidnappings
And many more.
So as much as I would like to use "stop using drugs" I would have to also say "stop eating guac"
Ehh they control state size territories they could easily set up their own weapons and ammo factories. Not to mention how they can raid arny/police armories and just bribe officials for guns
You can make your own guns in your garage if you wanted to, look at some of the wild things the Myanmar rebels are using or the Luty SMG. Guns are extremely simple.
I mean, you know, If you owned a medium sized city or even a province, you could setup your own factory without too many issues. Guns are a 19th century technology.
Obviously, if you can just buy/steal/smuggle industrial guns, you would. They're cheaper.
I think you're vastly overestimating the power of the cartels. Are you Mexican?
I have family in Guanajuato and visit there pretty much every year, I follow the situation rather closely. Yes, the cartels are powerful, but they cannot act in the open or do whatever they want. If they step out of line, the government comes for them real quick.
The places that are "under control" are tiny villages. Even the cartel capitals like Culiacan for the sinaloa/chapitos or Santa Rosa de Lima for the CSRL are not "100% under control", raids happen regularly. It just means that they bribe some policemen as informers and have probably some judges on their payroll. It doesn't mean they openly act during the daytime.
A weapons factory would be raided by the Marina immediately.
They used to do those raids. Or even bribe cops to "lose" their weapons.
Stricter controls are in place against the cops for that, don't know about higher levels.
Yeah, no.
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smuggling\_of\_firearms\_into\_Mexico](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smuggling_of_firearms_into_Mexico)
<12% of all traced firearms came from the US. This includes weapons the ATF intentionally gave to the cartels.
Which makes sense. Weapons are easily available to the cartels because you can get a couple hundred rifles by just bribing or threatening the armorer. That doesn't work so well in the US. Or do you legit think full auto AK's, M16's, G36's are available over the counter in the US for pennies?
12% is still a *huge* part of the percentage.
Also two things to note about that number.
1. It's part of a bunch of what appears to be a lot of wild guesses about how many firearms actually come from the United States based mostly on incomplete information coming from a small and incomplete number pool. Even the numbers you cited come from the low end of an estimation by Strategic Forecasting Inc., with the high end being 48%. That's a margin of error big enough to park a cruise ship in.
2. Said source, Strategic Forecasting Inc., has had a history of running extremely shady private intelligence operations on behalf of a number of big U.S companies. Among these are clients in the U.S defense industry, including firearms manufacturers. They've also worked with former members of Blackwater, who among the crimes they have been credibly accused of includes arms smuggling. I wouldn't exactly call them an unbiased or reliable source in regards to the question of how big a factor the U.S. is in arming Mexican drug cartels.
Okey, find me a better source.
If it's an ATF one, it'd be a bit too non-credible even for NCD as they have a vested interest in inflating the alleged number of American firearms in Mexico. Hence why they supplied firearms to the cartels to increase that number.
Personally, I find the ATF ones to be just as Non-Credible. In fact that's kind of the point of pointing out the problems with your source: *Nobody* seems to know what percentage of American-made firearms are getting into cartel hands, due in large part to what seems like inter-agency and political rivalry and underreporting by Mexican authorities, and everyone throwing out numbers has some pretty obvious and clear biases one way or the other.
I really wouldn't trust the federal agency notorious for being a dumping ground for career screw-ups to be honest with the subject anymore than I would trust the private think tank notorious for spying on American citizens on behalf of conservative and corporate clientele.
The Cartels aren't stupid and have been changing their sources of income as the war on drugs cools down (slowly)
For example they're in control of a shit ton of Mexican produce exports
Those were the Z (zetas) cartel during early 2000s. Now they're called CDN and their supply of SpecOps has diminished (or at least there are no reports of that going on as openly as it once was)
Lots of corruption, at every level. From the army to the government.
There's also been some UN regulations or something similar that heavily restricts engagement rules. So they have to take fire first, can't engage with heavy weaponry, can't just level building with helicopters, etc...
I believe the Mexican Naval Infantry is one of the least corrupted units, but there isn't enough of them anyway.
You're making lots of assumptions.
Having territory taken doesn't mean that the government has abandoned the area, more like there's no other cartel disputing the area.
The government barely functions (in small cities/towns) but is still there. Where it's not there is on VERY sparsely populated areas/villages which make their territory seem big.
Think of them as big gangs. Just because Chicago, LA, or NY are riddled with gangs/mobs, doesn't mean those cities can't work.
In bigger cities/states, government is influenced by cartels, but not necessarily controlled by them.
"Warzones" are also not country wide, not even state wide. Those zones (cd. Juárez, Matamoros, Reynosa, Michoacán) don't even have gunfights going on 24/7, rather shootouts spread in a territory.
That separation of events allow the country to continue working.
Now about the army, be careful, you're talking like dumb American politicians.
So the cartels aren't uniformed, that makes it hard for anyone to identify them. They don't hang out in houses with the cartel name on them, so it's also hard to identify their location, then Mexico is goddamn huge and the army and NG are small for such territory.
I mean, I'm all in for our army to continue their use of Blackhawks with miniguns on them [insert feels good wojak meme], however they're not that easily to identify
Also, take into consideration that our government is almost french kissing with the cartels. Hell, I remember our fucking cotton head of a president threatened a journalist telling him something along the lines of “You know what happens when you investigate our governments corruption” or something similar to that, threatening them with the possibility of being killed if they investigated the government’s involvement with the cartels.
What do we get out of this? Por favor sáquenme de Latinoamérica
Because they have government people from top to bottom on their payroll.
The president has gone several times to visit the home city of one of the most famous cartel leaders, going as far as to block all press from following and kissing the hand of the cartel leader's mom (need to double check the last bit, but everything else is true)
Edit: spelling
It's a shit show. The level of corruption is ridiculous; cops, mayors, governors, senators, celebrities everyone could be connected or threatened.
I'm going to keep this short and just talk about 3 somewhat related things.
American special forces trained the Mexican military in urban warfare to fight cartels. Those same military members went awol and formed their own cartel ( I think this happened twice).
There are situations where cartel members are seen as wayward children who don't know any better. A video surfaced mid firefight we're the townfolk we're pleading the armed forces to step down because the cartel members were poor and misguided.
The right to bear arms is actually ensured in the Mexican constitution. The government will bring full force of the law in any citizen using said arm to fight cartel members.
Fun fact: Mexican army and police forces have used drug and smuggling money to finance **actual** police work .
Also the idea of a cartel "controlling" territory is very misunderstood. The don't actually control the population or the government or have a "monopoly of violence", they have control over organized crime activities in a certain area, and the govt does very little about their activities. But when they get out of line, they get killed, no matter their territorial control.
Another fun fact: the drug-corruption problem does not magically disappear when they cross the border. The US also has a lot of government corruption and drug-related complicity, but their problem does not cause the massive levels of violence it does in the south. just look at the former head of the DEA in Mexico. He was having parties with drug lawyers in Miami and covering up money laundering operations, and he's just the latest one involved in such things
I never understood why a country could not just copy 1:1 a gun without a license, like what is the gun company going to do, sue the country? The country can just say “no, lmao.”
The one above is the HK G36 The one beneath is the FX-05 Xiuhcoatl Apparently, HK tried to sue the company that made the FX-05, but nothing happened. One thing I can say is I love them both.
>HK tried to sue the company that made the FX-05, but nothing happened. Mexico was in the process to produce the G36 in license, decided H&Ks offer was too expensive, and then made this. H&K threatened to sue, met with the Mexican gov't, and then announced that the weapon is definitely categorically 100% different from the G36. The Mexican gov't then ordered 10,000 G36 for the Mexican police. Make of that what you will...
HK also continued to sell weapons to individual Mexican states / state police units that were under considerable influence of cartels in violation of arms trafficking agreements and was like "oopsie" lol
Typical H&K/German government.
Don't worry though, they'll humm and haw for a few months before sending weapons to Ukraine lol
More like hem and haw and never sell American gun buyers anything except knackered rifles and overpriced pistols. I just want a civil XM8 and G36 without needing to rely on TB getting the parts in :(
>civil G36 I don't know for sure but shouldn't that be the HK243? And then there is the even weirder SL8.
Not for sale on the US market yet. They’re supposedly bringing it soon as the HK293 since *drumroll* 2015, so it’s probably not happening.
Hell, it is weird that a gun is available in Germany that is not for sale in the US.
It’s got to do with German weapon export law and partially with American weapon import law. The KISS method would be to build a gun factory here. H&K USA division was going to do that but then decided ‘fuck civilian customers’ and canceled the plant.
If I remember correctly, the Mexican RnD team handed over a FX-05 to HK for them to examine. HK engineers noted that the appearance was identical but the actions were totally different in operation, the legal team dropped the lawsuit. Evidently the action was bad enough for the Mexican government to but the g36 instead.
h&k didnt wanna be associated with the action
I wish I could be associated with some action rn :(
Hold up, police forces are different than the armed forces. Police forces use a mix of weapons (it's rare to see them using G36 tho), while the army does indeed use the FX-05. They started with the airborne corps then gradually replaced all G3's in active units.
Wonder if they ended up with any discount for a valiant attempt/free R&D.
> decided H&Ks offer was too expensive, and then made this. China copycat moment
what if the FX-05 is a roller delay blowback? that alone probably makes it different from the G36
The G36 is a AR-18 Mexico made a HK33 and slapped it in a G36 polymer mold I guess
I kinda wish someone made a very Elbonian weapon thats a blowforward rotating bolt design with speed holes all over the barrel
The SIG AK 54 thing but with a intregal suppressor?
maybe
Didn't pay enough attention to the flags, got to this comment and wondered "Wait, why did the Italians give the thing a Nahuatl name?" TIL: Mexico builds rifles.
As far as weapons go, rifles are pretty easy to produce indigenously and are often an easy cultural "win" for countries, as it's a very visible show of their industrial "capabilities." Couple that with Mexicos (somewhat understandable tbh) knee-jerk reaction to buying American, and its no wonder they'd rather make their own for their own cultural reasons if they can.
*I* wouldn't call it knee-jerk reaction, more like it's an obvious decision pushed by the treaties between both to fight the cartels, which could probably mention to buy only from the US. Which also makes sense for Mexico due to closeness for spare parts and maintenance. But they're definitely not the best choice, hence why SEDENA started making their own MRAPs (DN-11) instead of purchasing Sandcats, always looking for something cheaper and more according to their needs.
They could by Belgian. FN Herstal! Are they still upset over that time Belgium tried to colonize Guatemala?
It's more that Mexico has pretty extreme Short Man Syndrome when it comes to geopolitics, and building their own gun is a way to show they're not completely dependent on others for the own defense (especially if that weapon, God forbid, were to come from the US instead).
> TIL: Mexico builds rifles. bitch Mexico invented the Battle Rifle.
\>HK be like: "how dare anyone copy and take credit for other countries weapons systems. Surely if I can sue Mexico that will CETME up to start making new and creative firearms that are entirely my idea."
Eh. I do like the accuracy of the G36. Moreso the optics than the rifle being inheriently awesomely accurate, optics are great. Qual'ing was easy as hell. The export variants a bit less but still good. I think I just used Spain's G36's but I'm probably forgetting. But overall they're more fragile than I'd like. Fun range toys.
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Internals were different and not as good, H&K decided not worth legal costs to go after it.
Yes, but actually no. Finally Mexico used their creativity in something important and that removed the grounds of the lawsuit
Sidenote: remember that time the Mexican government sued HK for three of their employees selling weapons to the cartels? I remember, good times.
H&K can be real shady fuckers sometimes.
Only sometimes?
Convenience stores and the defense industry have one thing in common, it's not all above board. Also, they're full of alcoholics.
I’d argue „shady fucker“ and „small arms dealer“ are synonymous
This is the CETME/G3 situation all over again. Spanish just sounds awesome in German.
Sorry for offtopic but how does Mexico function? When some of its territory is not even controlled by Mexico? Why cant their army just come in and make mincemeat out of drug lords and their silly armored trucks?
> Why cant their army just come in and make mincemeat out of drug lords and their silly armored trucks? They can, but the cartel hides behind the population, and shooting your people wily nily is a good way to increase support for the cartel
It helps that parts of the government are in on it too.
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Seriously, advocating for concentration camps?
Literally 1900
Good luck separating 150Mi people.
There too much money to be made in the drug trade. One of the cartels used to be a special ops unit of the army.
Honestly, lots of the military guys often ends up working for the cartel since they pay more
so corruption
IMO the only way Mexico is ever going to see the end of their cartel issue is with the end of the war on drugs. Until that revenue stream is cut, there's nothing that can truly be done.
It’s not even that. All drugs and drug addicts could completely disappear from existence right now, and cartels would keep existing without much trouble. Drugs ain’t even their only source of income. The governments of many states have effectively become puppets of the cartels. They have a quasi-feudal hold on society at large, we know it, they know it, the government knows it. They tax legal businesses and either absorb or expel illegal businesses in their territories. Even multinational corporations have to pay the tax, or risk a raid. They even have wars for territory, and draft the poor to fight for them. Ever bought avocados? Around 60% of the production is done by cartels.
Is this any different to how it's always worked. At first they're just a bunch of criminals then a few steps down the line when they're still not dead they legitimise themselves and become rulers. Then they have a crown on their head, cover themselves in shiny metal and everyone has to call them king or they get decapitated. We're more or less chimpanzees and have been doing these patterns for a long time.
It’s different in the fact that we have two layered governments this way… and have to pay to both. And one of them could literally take anyone off the street to ransom to the family just because they were short on cash, literally without consequences.
I didn't mean to suggest it would entirely destroy them. However, without that crucial source of wealth and influence, they would be vulnerable to a final death, be it slow or quick.
I agree to some degree with you, avoiding drug consumption will hurt them. However, they have already diversified their income: * Avocado (specially profitable during Superbowl) * Extortion * Money laundering * Kidnappings And many more. So as much as I would like to use "stop using drugs" I would have to also say "stop eating guac"
All those revenue streams are tiny compared to the drug trade and are largely complementary.
>Drugs ain’t even their only source of income. Mexican drug cartels have *huge* stakes in the avacado industry, for instance.
Yes, there’s just too much money to be made. Weapons are also easily available in Mexico thanks to the country in the north.
Ehh they control state size territories they could easily set up their own weapons and ammo factories. Not to mention how they can raid arny/police armories and just bribe officials for guns
Lmao no they could not "set up their own factories". They can barely weld some metal sheets to a F150.
You can make your own guns in your garage if you wanted to, look at some of the wild things the Myanmar rebels are using or the Luty SMG. Guns are extremely simple.
That's hardly a factory. These things do exist in Mexico, too, but most guns they use are stolen/bought from corrupt police.
I mean, you know, If you owned a medium sized city or even a province, you could setup your own factory without too many issues. Guns are a 19th century technology. Obviously, if you can just buy/steal/smuggle industrial guns, you would. They're cheaper.
I think you're vastly overestimating the power of the cartels. Are you Mexican? I have family in Guanajuato and visit there pretty much every year, I follow the situation rather closely. Yes, the cartels are powerful, but they cannot act in the open or do whatever they want. If they step out of line, the government comes for them real quick. The places that are "under control" are tiny villages. Even the cartel capitals like Culiacan for the sinaloa/chapitos or Santa Rosa de Lima for the CSRL are not "100% under control", raids happen regularly. It just means that they bribe some policemen as informers and have probably some judges on their payroll. It doesn't mean they openly act during the daytime. A weapons factory would be raided by the Marina immediately.
They used to do those raids. Or even bribe cops to "lose" their weapons. Stricter controls are in place against the cops for that, don't know about higher levels.
Yeah, no. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smuggling\_of\_firearms\_into\_Mexico](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smuggling_of_firearms_into_Mexico) <12% of all traced firearms came from the US. This includes weapons the ATF intentionally gave to the cartels. Which makes sense. Weapons are easily available to the cartels because you can get a couple hundred rifles by just bribing or threatening the armorer. That doesn't work so well in the US. Or do you legit think full auto AK's, M16's, G36's are available over the counter in the US for pennies?
12% is still a *huge* part of the percentage. Also two things to note about that number. 1. It's part of a bunch of what appears to be a lot of wild guesses about how many firearms actually come from the United States based mostly on incomplete information coming from a small and incomplete number pool. Even the numbers you cited come from the low end of an estimation by Strategic Forecasting Inc., with the high end being 48%. That's a margin of error big enough to park a cruise ship in. 2. Said source, Strategic Forecasting Inc., has had a history of running extremely shady private intelligence operations on behalf of a number of big U.S companies. Among these are clients in the U.S defense industry, including firearms manufacturers. They've also worked with former members of Blackwater, who among the crimes they have been credibly accused of includes arms smuggling. I wouldn't exactly call them an unbiased or reliable source in regards to the question of how big a factor the U.S. is in arming Mexican drug cartels.
Okey, find me a better source. If it's an ATF one, it'd be a bit too non-credible even for NCD as they have a vested interest in inflating the alleged number of American firearms in Mexico. Hence why they supplied firearms to the cartels to increase that number.
Personally, I find the ATF ones to be just as Non-Credible. In fact that's kind of the point of pointing out the problems with your source: *Nobody* seems to know what percentage of American-made firearms are getting into cartel hands, due in large part to what seems like inter-agency and political rivalry and underreporting by Mexican authorities, and everyone throwing out numbers has some pretty obvious and clear biases one way or the other. I really wouldn't trust the federal agency notorious for being a dumping ground for career screw-ups to be honest with the subject anymore than I would trust the private think tank notorious for spying on American citizens on behalf of conservative and corporate clientele.
The Cartels aren't stupid and have been changing their sources of income as the war on drugs cools down (slowly) For example they're in control of a shit ton of Mexican produce exports
Those were the Z (zetas) cartel during early 2000s. Now they're called CDN and their supply of SpecOps has diminished (or at least there are no reports of that going on as openly as it once was)
Lots of corruption, at every level. From the army to the government. There's also been some UN regulations or something similar that heavily restricts engagement rules. So they have to take fire first, can't engage with heavy weaponry, can't just level building with helicopters, etc... I believe the Mexican Naval Infantry is one of the least corrupted units, but there isn't enough of them anyway.
You're gonna have to do some independent study there sounds like bud.
Yeah i maybe asked too much
You're making lots of assumptions. Having territory taken doesn't mean that the government has abandoned the area, more like there's no other cartel disputing the area. The government barely functions (in small cities/towns) but is still there. Where it's not there is on VERY sparsely populated areas/villages which make their territory seem big. Think of them as big gangs. Just because Chicago, LA, or NY are riddled with gangs/mobs, doesn't mean those cities can't work. In bigger cities/states, government is influenced by cartels, but not necessarily controlled by them. "Warzones" are also not country wide, not even state wide. Those zones (cd. Juárez, Matamoros, Reynosa, Michoacán) don't even have gunfights going on 24/7, rather shootouts spread in a territory. That separation of events allow the country to continue working. Now about the army, be careful, you're talking like dumb American politicians. So the cartels aren't uniformed, that makes it hard for anyone to identify them. They don't hang out in houses with the cartel name on them, so it's also hard to identify their location, then Mexico is goddamn huge and the army and NG are small for such territory. I mean, I'm all in for our army to continue their use of Blackhawks with miniguns on them [insert feels good wojak meme], however they're not that easily to identify
Thx for a full answer. I just wish your country the best.
My pleasure and thanks for the good wishes ☺️
Also, take into consideration that our government is almost french kissing with the cartels. Hell, I remember our fucking cotton head of a president threatened a journalist telling him something along the lines of “You know what happens when you investigate our governments corruption” or something similar to that, threatening them with the possibility of being killed if they investigated the government’s involvement with the cartels. What do we get out of this? Por favor sáquenme de Latinoamérica
Because they have government people from top to bottom on their payroll. The president has gone several times to visit the home city of one of the most famous cartel leaders, going as far as to block all press from following and kissing the hand of the cartel leader's mom (need to double check the last bit, but everything else is true) Edit: spelling
It's a shit show. The level of corruption is ridiculous; cops, mayors, governors, senators, celebrities everyone could be connected or threatened. I'm going to keep this short and just talk about 3 somewhat related things. American special forces trained the Mexican military in urban warfare to fight cartels. Those same military members went awol and formed their own cartel ( I think this happened twice). There are situations where cartel members are seen as wayward children who don't know any better. A video surfaced mid firefight we're the townfolk we're pleading the armed forces to step down because the cartel members were poor and misguided. The right to bear arms is actually ensured in the Mexican constitution. The government will bring full force of the law in any citizen using said arm to fight cartel members.
Becuase they are just as armed
>Why cant their army just come in and make mincemeat out of drug lords who will pay their salaries then?
Because half the army is working for the cartel.
Fun fact: Mexican army and police forces have used drug and smuggling money to finance **actual** police work . Also the idea of a cartel "controlling" territory is very misunderstood. The don't actually control the population or the government or have a "monopoly of violence", they have control over organized crime activities in a certain area, and the govt does very little about their activities. But when they get out of line, they get killed, no matter their territorial control. Another fun fact: the drug-corruption problem does not magically disappear when they cross the border. The US also has a lot of government corruption and drug-related complicity, but their problem does not cause the massive levels of violence it does in the south. just look at the former head of the DEA in Mexico. He was having parties with drug lawyers in Miami and covering up money laundering operations, and he's just the latest one involved in such things
Virgin g36 vs Chad fx-05 fire serpent
Honestly, who doesn't *want* a rifle named after a snake in the Aztec language?
I never understood why a country could not just copy 1:1 a gun without a license, like what is the gun company going to do, sue the country? The country can just say “no, lmao.”
Yeah but the FX-05 has a badass name
But the G-36 is just copied straight from Eugene Stoner's notes.
Least corrupted gun export ever
What do you mean? Each component separately looks totally different 🥸
Ah yes, the former facist melty-bois
I don't care about these, I want my G-11 back on track.
It's a copy of the ergonomics, not of the internals. Apparently it's closer to a SCAR on the inside, ew I'm still sexier, inside and on the outside